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Munds Wagon - Pies Vortex - Hangover, AZ
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Munds Wagon - Pies Vortex - Hangover, AZ 
Munds Wagon - Pies Vortex - Hangover, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 20 2016
Hiking9.73 Miles 1,620 AEG
Hiking9.73 Miles   6 Hrs   3 Mns   1.97 mph
1,620 ft AEG   1 Hour   7 Mns Break
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I'm going to dial back the miles Route Scout 10.52 gave me and the AEG 2058 to what Kelly's track said. RS had a hiccup at the beginning after I put it in airplane mode. Fortunately I discovered that early on. This happened on my last hike too. Kelly and I had hoped to have the weekend for our Sedona hike but alas, there was no room at the Inns so we settled for a Sunday hike. We liked the one Bruce and Joe did a little while back so that's what we chose.

Heading up the Munds Wagon Trail we were pleased with our view of Mitten Ridge and the mountain (Munds?)to our south as well. Once we got down in the drainage we marveled at the nice wide drainages along the way. The jeeps started rolling up the hill about this time and though a bit annoying at first; we kind of got used to it after counting the 12th one. We enjoyed our occasional walk on the bedrock not realizing a lot of this hike would be on our favorite surface. I was also glad to have the shaded walkway from time to time as well.

We got to the Jct with the Hangover Trail and discussed for a moment which way to go. We decided to head up the Munds Wagon Trail figuring our view coming west would be the best. THIS was a good choice and I think the best choice. So we continued on up the Munds Wagon Trail eventually criss crossing the road to make our way to the Cow Pies Trail. Once you got out to the lava rock section the views would be non-stop giving :DANCE: . We continued on the Cow Pies Trail and turned to look at the view to our south when Kelly heard something calling and wanted to see if we could get "over there". We saw someone else "over there" and below us you could see an area to link "over there".

So off we went "over there". We walked both bedrock fingers hoping that the southern finger would show us views of the west but you couldn't quite see around the corner of Mitten Ridge. It's a fun area to walk around and now it was silent as we left. I so dubbed "over there", Kelly's Vortex. We then retraced some of our steps on the Cow Pies Trail (follow the white hexagon markings) to the Junction with the Hangover Trail. I believe the sign here said something along the lines of "this ain't easy". And right off the bat you get to see what all the fuss is about as it relates to exposure and you immediately wonder how those bike riders don't slip down the hillside.

A lot of the skinnier parts of the route wouldn't be so bad except for the dirt or sand on it that takes away from any kind of traction. Here you continue on bedrock and some dirt trail here and there with outstanding views and the constant need to look up. I am sad to say that my camera lens had a mark on it all the way to the saddle but I will obviously publish the video despite that annoying spot. I would also learn later the camera was set for ISO 200 and that's why last week's and this week's pics are not the best quality. I'm still using my old camera until my repaired camera arrives back this week. Oh well, just another excuse to do this trail again.

We switchbacked up our way to the saddle where a bike rider and his dog trekked past us. He was pushing the bike at certain parts though so we didn't get to see him ride any of the slightly scary stuff. After oohing and awhing at the saddle :D , we had a small lunch break wondering how the route was going to get us down from here. You head right and then make a u-turn walking across the bedrock again on a bit of shelf. And then you are on a dirt trail for awhile next to an overhang that comes and goes. Eventually I have one of those :doh: moments and I finally get why they call it the Hangover Trail. The trail gets a little precarious from time to time as it seems to be falling a little away from the side.

The views from here of Wilson Mountain and the upper West Fork area are pretty awesome as is the view to the northwest side of Sedona including Capitol Butte and Thunder Mountain and then below you is Midgley Bridge. And then you come to another bedrock section after taking these rather cool steps down a layer. Except this bedrock section has you aiming straight down for the most part. How on earth do those bikers do this :o . Kelly and I slowly navigated our way down with our feet holding on for dear life hoping not to hit any loose dirt. This is not an area to be in a hurry; well at least for me.

Once we start toward the saddle you could breathe normally again. As we walked along here we could see someone up by the Mitten Ridge Arches. I had read about those arches while researching this hike and it is definitely doable and looks like fun so Kelly and I are putting that on our list. After making this u-turn at this part of Mitten Ridge it was time to head down and across and down to the junction with the Munds Wagon Trail. This was a nice part of the hike as well thru some small trees and a rather nice trail.

Back on the Munds Wagon Trail we took a five minute break before finishing off the last mile and 1/2 of the hike still relishing in what a great hike this had been from start to finish. It took a little longer than I thought but really, why be in a rush when we had the views we did. Tibbermode is a definite must on the Hangover Trail (route) for sure.

We had our post hike lunch at the Blue Moon where I made the mistake of ordering an Italian Soda. Well the Italian Soda here comes with a whole bunch of whip cream on top; it is so filling I could barely eat part of my lunch. I usually have a beer but I had part of a beer at the trailhead. The videos are obviously a work in progress. Thx Kelly, another great Sedona hike.

Munds Wagon Trail from Huckaby TH to the picnic area ... jdzU
Munds Wagon Trail from the picnic area to Cow Pies intersection ... iHSM
Cow Pies Trail and Meander ... gMk0
Cow Pies Trail and Meander Part 2 ... 5QVU
Hangover 1 to the saddle ... CHjU
Hangover 2 saddle to the north side ... VbvY
Hangover 3 north side to the saddle ... PmV4
Hangover 4 west saddle back to Munds Wagon trail ​​
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For me, sometimes it's just as much about the journey as the destination.
Oh, and once in awhile, don't forget to look back at the trail you've traveled.
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