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Carr Peak Trail #107 - 21 members in 91 triplogs have rated this an average 4.2 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Jul 05 2025
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 Tucson, AZ
Carr Peak Trail #107Tucson, AZ
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Hiking6.02 Miles 1,866 AEG
Hiking6.02 Miles   3 Hrs   14 Mns   2.32 mph
1,866 ft AEG      38 Mns Break
 
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I needed to be at 9000 feet, but the Catalinas didn’t seem a great choice on a holiday weekend. So I bit the bullet on a two hour drive to the Huachucas. I hoped to bag both Carr and Miller peaks but figured the weather might not cooperate. I got to the Ramsey Vista parking lot by 9:15 and had to share the lot with only one other vehicle. Sweet!

Even at 9:15 and 7500’ it was hot. There were a few clouds building over the peaks, but otherwise the morning was off to a sunny start. I had a feeling it wouldn’t last; the air felt thick.

Sure enough, halfway up Carr Peak the clouds started looking a bit more numerous and darker.

Trail conditions were excellent. The ground was damp from the previous day’s rains. One set of boot prints in the muddier sections, though the ground had dried out a bit since they were made. As I entered the aspen corridors, a man and his dog approached ahead. We chatted a bit and he’d camped overnight and apparently started immediately after the rain. He said he’d spotted two bears (maybe the same bear on two occasions) around the bathtub. He asked if I was headed to Miller and I said maybe, depending on the weather.

Shortly after we parted, I saw a deer on the trail ahead, which shyly retreated out of view and disappeared.

At this point I was under cloud the rest of the way up. That and the occasional cool breeze made for pleasant hiking.

At the summit I enjoyed the view, then sat down to sign the log. I had to cut my prose short when the pen ran dry and it started to sprinkle. As I started to mosey down from the summit I thought I heard a slight rumble of thunder. Then crack! directly overhead. I took that subtle hint and ran down the mountain.

I didn’t even consider taking the fork to tub spring and Miller. I proceeded down to the car and didn’t slow down until I was on the east slope and well below the peak. The whole while it never rained more than a gentle sprinkle of fairly juicy drops.

Back at the campground it wasn’t sprinkling anymore but it had clearly rained, as there were puddles everywhere and the picnic tables were wet. I had lunch, hung out for a bit to enjoy the relatively cool forest (despite the fact that most of the trees at Ramsey Vista appear to have died), then headed back to Tucson.

I did drive through a pretty heavy thunderstorm between Fort Huachuca and Kartchner.

Other than the deer on the trail, a couple more deer on the road, and a few squirrels I saw tons of lizards. Every few feet or so one would scurry under a rock or behind a log. After hiking in the Alps it was nice to see lots of lizards instead of lots of people.
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Too early in the season, but there were a few. Raspberries are starting to bloom.
 
May 24 2025
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Sky Islands Summit Challenge, AZ 
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Hiking20.43 Miles 5,916 AEG
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During a work meeting earlier in the week with an individual from Sierra Vista, the topic of hiking came up, and she encouraged me to look at the Huachucas for some great hiking opportunities. As I was looking through HAZ resources and Googling, I came across this event and realized it was scheduled to take place that weekend.

Of course, registration had long since closed, but on a lark, I decided to email the organizers and see if there was a chance to still register. To my surprise, I received a phone call later that day, and on Wednesday signed up for the event.

The challenge is capped at 250 entrants and offers three levels: One Summit (Carr Peak--9,230 11.2 miles), Double Summit (Carr Peak and Miller Peak--9,465 ft, 15 miles), or Elite Triple Summit (Carr, Miller, and Pat Scott Peak--8,517 ft, 18.1 mi.). We, of course, signed up for the Triple. :D

Drove down to Sierra Vista after work on Friday and made it just in time for the bib pick up, which was at the golf course and included dinner and the opportunity to hit some balls on the driving range. It was a beautiful evening with the setting sun lighting up some clouds over the mountains to the west.

Bibs and swag bag secured, we headed to our motel for a few hours of shut eye.

Bus departure for the Triple was a 4:20 am, with a scheduled start at the Ramsey Canyon Nature Preserve at 5 a.m. Predawn light offered limited visibility of wild turkeys high up in the trees squawking rather loudly.

Over half of the entrants were signed up for the triple. While billed as a hike (rather than a trail run), there were several trail runners signed up and they took off up front. The first half mile or so is road width as you head through the preserve past a couple of historical cabins and some huge maple trees and other foliage which I'm sure make for a fantastic fall colors hike. The wide road at the start also helped with sorting folks out into hiking speeds. At that point, we arrived at the Hamburg trail proper, and the trail was reduced to a single track. So, passing was a little more difficult, but it never felt particularly crowded. That said, I took fewer photos than usual because I didn't want to pass and then have to re-pass folks.

Past a look out point, the trail descends back to and along the creekbed, which only had pools given the dry winter (but would be fun and more beautiful in wetter years).

At the turn off for the Pat Scott Canyon trail, the Triples hung a right, while the Single and Doubles continued on Hamburg. From there, any congestion was basically done for the day.

5 miles and over 3K in elevation gained, we arrived at peak #1--Pat Scott Peak (which is on a different high point than the erroneously noted location on the topo map). There is no official trail to the peak itself, so the final climb to the summit involved a relatively steep but short off-trail scramble, from which our two other peaks on the day came into view. After a short break and a stamp in our summit "passport" book, we descended back to the Crest trail and wound back around to reconnect with terminus of the Hamburg Trail where we rejoined the Single and Double hikers.

The next section along the Crest Trail offered our first open views of the valley floor to the west an south into Mexico. Somewhere along this section, my phone must have pinged from a Mexican cell tower prompting a text from Verizon welcoming me to Mexico. :lol:

At the Carr Peak trail, we hung a left and contoured/climbed an open bowl area up to a switchback climb to the summit of peak #2--Carr Peak. This section offered the best views of Miller on the day. The Carr Summit provided panoramic views down to Sierra Vista and off to the northern edge of the Huachucas. It was also pretty windy on the summit, but the breeze was generally welcome and kept any heat in check.

Then we backtracked to Crest and continued a short distance to Bathtub Spring, where we hung a right for our final peak. The trail here starts out with a gradual contouring climb, which made the elevation manageable. It steepens at the final spur to the summit, but wasn't as bad as I was anticipating.

Peak #3--the Miller summit is the high point of the range and is a beautifully shaped peak with a solid green carpet of aspens on its north-east facing slope. Great views into Mexico and all around from the top. I didn't realize that Miller is in the top 10-15 peaks in Arizona in terms of elevation (depending on how many of the SF peaks you "count")--higher than Mt. Lemmon or Wrightson, and cracks the top 10 in terms of prominence. However ranked, it's a lovely peak.

At the Miller summit, our climbing was more or less done for the day, with total AEG approaching 6,000. And while we were glad to be going down, the downhill grind also exacts its own price. :sweat:

The lower part of Miller Canyon had lots of greenery, which I'm sure I'd enjoy more if not for the prior 17+ miles of work. But as is typical in most long hikes, the last 2 miles are always 5 miles long. : wink : Add to that the increasing temperatures (upper 80s/lower 90s at the TH), and we were glad to hit the finish line around 1:40 pm, where a shuttle bus ferried us a mile or two down the dirt road to where the busses could pick us up.

We bussed back to the start where our bibs gained us "free" entry into the wine/spirits festival with free drinks included. We don't drink, but most others on our bus were excited for some celebratory beers.

We planned to stay Saturday night as well, so we headed back to our motel for a well-deserved shower an nap. Then we hit dinner at Texas Roadhouse and decided to take in the newly released Mission Impossible movie. I generally like the series and it was worth a watch, but not as good as I was hoping. The movie was interrupted at a critical moment (when global electricity is shut down and the screen goes dark) when the fire alarm in the theater went off. For a while, we thought it was part of the movie/release schtick, but turned out to just be your regular teenagers pulling the alarm. After the FD came and restored order, we went back in and finished the show.

Having been up since 3:30 that morning, we crashed hard after the movie and awoke for a leisurely drive back to the Valley Sunday morning.

I'm not usually drawn into paying for hiking events, but this was pretty fun and certainly allowed us to see more of the Huachucas in one trip than we would have been able to do otherwise.
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Sep 21 2024
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Pat Scott's Carr, AZ 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking12.74 Miles 3,320 AEG
Hiking12.74 Miles   5 Hrs   41 Mns   2.65 mph
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Headed down to the chookas for my first visit up the Carr Canyon Road since 2015. The road was in sedan shape up to the winter gate at the perimeter trailhead. From there it gets a little dicey and even a subi-type vehicle might have trouble in a couple of spots.

I like this range in September, but this year was significantly drier than it was 9 years ago; less green, fewer flowers, and much less flowing water. And it was still great. It was surprising to see a grove of aspens along the Carr Peak Trail have begun their autumn transition.

Temps stayed in the 60s all day, except for the brief visit to Carr Peak where it dropped into the 50s. A light southwest breeze was perfect accompaniment to the day, only reaching irritable levels funneling up and over Bear Saddle.

Got to see another twin-spotted rattlesnake on the Crest Trail (my 3rd ever, after seeing 2 on a trip here three years ago. These guys are tiny, and might have the highest range of any rattlesnake species - up to 11,000 feet. Always a treat to see one.)

We opted against the trip out to Ramsey and instead headed down Pat Scott. The climb up Comfort Springs was as miserable as I remember. I had forgotten about the bonus field of poison ivy to negotiate in the last mile, but managed to wade through it mostly unscathed.

All in all, an enjoyable day in the chookas.
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It was apparent that there has been one short night of frost damaging some of the most sensitive flowers. Still a bunch hanging on, but the season will end fast.

dry Comfort Spring Dry Dry
Springbox was dry. There's a use path leading uphill toward the point on the topo map that indicates the spring source. I did not hike up to check for water at the source.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Pat Scott Canyon Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
A small pool at 8325, which I've always found to have some water. Consistent flow and pools at the 7580 contour and below with a few stretches where it flows underground again, but reliable for a mile or so below that point.

dry Wisconsin Canyon Dry Dry
No water where Wisconsin drains into Pat Scott.
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Carr PeakTucson, AZ
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Fun morning hike w/Kriket. :D
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Sky Islands Summit Challenge 2023, AZ 
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Hiked the Sky Islands Summit Challenge for the third year in a row. This is an annual event put on by the City of Sierra Vista each spring. They provide buses/vans from the city to the start in Ramsey Canyon and from the finish in Miller Canyon back again. They have three options which are one, two or three peaks that they rate as "Difficult", "Very Difficult" and "Extremely Difficult". My first two times I picked the "Difficult" single peak challenge which goes to Carr Peak, but this time I decided to challenge myself with the two peak hike which adds Miller Peak. There were about 180 people total participating this year, most doing either 1 peak or 3 peaks with only 37 people signed up for the 2 peak challenge.

The hike started in Ramsey Canyon Preserve. Ramsey Canyon is a beautiful forest area with a stream. The two peak group started at 6:15. The 3 peak folks had started an hour or so earlier, and the single peak group would start an hour later. The trail goes up from the start and gets the heart pumping. At the end of the preserve it turns into the Hamburg Trail which is initially all stairs and switchbacks which is hard work. After a bunch of climbing and sweating we reach an overlook and take in the view. From here the trail descends and gives up most of the hard won elevation we just gained. This downhill segment lets us catch our breath. As we head down we can hear a stream below that we eventually reach and cross. There was definitely more water this time than the last two years, but not so much as to make it difficult to cross.

The trail crosses the stream several times as we begin to ascend the canyon. Interestingly the water seemed to start and stop. Most of the stream crossings we had to step on stones to cross the water, but some places the stream bed was dry. Then further up the canyon there would be water again. The trail gets steeper and steeper as it follows the stream. We stopped a few times to rest on the way up. Eventually the trail leaves the bottom of the canyon and heads up the canyon wall. It's steeper and it seems to go on forever, but at least it's cool and shady. Eventually we reach the Crest Trail at Bear Saddle which provides a view of the land to the West of the Huachucas.

After munching down on an energy bar and chugging some electrolyte juice at the saddle we continue on the Crest Trail #103 which is part of the Arizona Trail. The trail is more or less level for a while as it traverses the western edge of the mountain toward the South which is a nice change after the long, long climb to get there. The views to the west here are just stunning. Then the trail heads into the forest for a series of switchbacks that take us up and over the ridge where we get our first view of Carr and Miller Peaks.

At the ridge line we turn left on Carr Peak Trail #107. There are few big trees here on this side of the mountain because of a big fire that burned through some years ago. The trail climbs gently over about a mile and a half until we reach the spur to the peak. The spur is a bit steeper, but it's short and before long we're on top of Carr Peak where we check in, receive peak stickers for our water bottles and stamps for our passports to show we made it. Great view of Sierra Vista to the north, and of Miller Peak, our next destination, to the south.

We retrace our route back along Carr Peak Trail and then start heading downhill towards the aptly named Bathtub Spring where we turn right to stay on the Crest Trail. The spring was running and the tub was overflowing. The next mile or so was more or less level which was easy walking and helped my legs recover. Miller Peak is only a couple hundred feet higher than Carr Peak, but we descended quite a way and have nearly 1000 feet of elevation gain to get to Miller Peak. Now it's nearly noon, the trail is in sunlight and it's hard work. Eventually we reach the junction with Miller Peak Trail #105 which is a short spur that takes us to the peak where we get another sticker and stamp and an opportunity to catch our breath before the long hike down.

After a short break we start back down and retrace our route to Bathtub Spring. While it was a long climb up here, the footing is good and the slope is gentle enough that we can keep up a decent pace. From Bathtub Spring it's down the long, steep and miserable Miller Canyon Trail #106. There are several stretches that are steep and rocky and have to be taken slowly to avoid falling. Even though I had done this trail twice before, it still seemed to go on much longer than I remembered. As we headed down we saw a helicopter head up to the ridge where we had been to rescue a hiker in trouble. We also passed a couple of men from the Frye Fire Dept who were heading up Miller Canyon to assist a hiker. I heard people saying that at least three hikers needed to be rescued. Busy day for paramedics in the Huachucas. Thankfully my friends and I were not among those needing assistance.

When we reached the end of the trail a van was there in minutes to take us to the staging area farther down Miller Canyon, and from there a bus took us back to Veterans Memorial Park where the annual wine and beer festival was in full swing. Participants in the Summit Challenge all received two free drink tickets, and after a long day of hiking that beer tasted great!

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Bathtub was overflowing
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Pat Scott - Carr loop, AZ 
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Hiking13.45 Miles 3,850 AEG
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linda invited me to do this loop in the huachucas
we got going around 0715
cool temps in the lower elevations
comfort springs, hamburg, pat scott canyon to the crest trail
we hit both pat and patricia scott peaks :lol:
continued on the crest trail to carr peak trail
took a nice snack break on carr peak, then down to the campground
saw our first person after we had done the pat scott marked on the topo
her maps had the other peak as pat scott, so we went up that too
chatted with her a bit on carr, where we saw a half dozen other hikers
a few more people toward the finish
good breeze most of the day
water flowing in pat scott canyon
clouds building in the afternoon
nice views from the peaks and from the crest trail
love these sky island ranges :)
thanks for a great hike linda!
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Pat Scott - Carr loop, AZ 
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Hiking13.04 Miles 3,723 AEG
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Today seemed like a good day for the Huachucas. Kelly and I started from Ramsey Vista Campground shortly after 0700 and headed down Comfort Springs Trail. Cool to start, which was nice.

Hopped onto Hamburg Trail for a minute, then onto Pat Scott Canyon Trail. Lots of water along the trail, with numerous water crossings—all easy. Some deadfall, but nothing too difficult. Finally topped out at the Crest Trail and headed north to what may or may not be Pat Scott Peak. Either way, it has some nice views.

Headed back south on Crest to what also may or may not be Pat Scott Peak on the other side of the junction. Different maps say different things. Steeper climb to this one, but not bad. We dubbed one Pat Scott and the other Patricia Scott. Regardless, we got the peak one way or another.

Once back on the Crest trail again, we headed south for a few miles. Pleasant hiking through the trees, with nice views on either side of the ridge. After Bear Saddle, the climb up to the junction with Carr Peak Trail was a bit warm.

Carr Peak Trail was much easier, with a side trip up to the peak. Had a snack up there and enjoyed the gathering clouds. Up until the peak, we had only seen one other hiker all day, a woman who was doing nearly the same loop as us. Saw a half dozen hikers at the peak, but we had the summit to ourselves most of the time.

The descent off Carr down to the campground is mostly easy with a moderate grade. One or two short sections of rocky trail, but felt like a breeze to finish out the loop. Fun day, and good to hike with Kelly again.
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Still early, but saw a few flowers here and there.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Comfort Spring Dripping Dripping
Dripping, less than a quart per minute. Trough was full and water looked clear.
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Carr Peak Trail #107Tucson, AZ
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Mike, Brian and myself had planned on a trip to the Hauchucas for several peaks in June before California, but the active Monsoon canceled that and continued to do so well into August and September. With Brian back from Montana, we were finally able to come down here with great weather and conditions for an enjoyable day up 2 of the 4 planned peaks. From Ramsey Vista we hiked Carr and Granite Peak, which is off the Crest Trail just above Bear Saddle.

Pretty mild for most of the day, so that was really nice. Visibility was also about as good as it gets. Mike saw what was likely another speckled rattle snake at the junction to Carr Peak. The snow didn't hinder travel, and while Carr was crowded at times, I still would return to hike Miller from Ramsey Vista, or Pat Scott and Ramsey.

Most people probably won't bother with Granite. I was surprised that Dixie Flyer didn't appear to have bagged it. It wasn't bad at all, but it doesn't impress you. Some of the summits over the Crest Trail or near Carr seemed more impressive. Me, I just like a good view.

The road to the TH is rough, I wouldn't want to take a Honda Civic on it, but an Outback or better would be okay. It is rocky after the summer. A truck won't mind it.
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Brutally hot and humid down in the lowlands, and too warm most of the time up on the mountain. After camping I wanted to hike this trail and check on the flowers. As time goes by and my hiking skills wane, I like this trail less and less. It really is pretty gnarly much of the time, so you really have to pay attention to where you are planting your feet. The one thing that is the saving grace for this one is the great views and excellent plant diversity. Some of the flowers were putting on a good show, but it is early in the rainy season, so it should get better by August. I hiked (more of a meander with all my photo stops :lol: ) as far as the "sweet flower zone" that you encounter when you reach the aspens.

It was pretty much a down day for thunderstorms, so no pressure on me in that department. There is a section of trail as you near the aspen zone that was impacted by the Monument Fire of 2011, and it has steadily gotten worse and more channeled with time. Not a favorite section at all, plus it is fairly steep there and very exposed from the loss of trees. But once you reach the aspens, better trail conditions return.

When I drove up to the campground, I was kind of amazed how parched things looked compared to the wetness I experienced the week before in the Chiricahua Mountains. The Thunder Gods better get to work! :lol:
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we always like to head south for holiday weekends so we don't have traffic woes going or coming back. we even got my lucky spot #13 in a campground that was about half full. on our way there, i was checking out various websites and noticed that the sierra vista sky island summit challenge was on saturday, but i also saw the route they were taking would only intersect mine on the spur up to the peak, so i decided saturday would be my day for the hike.

on the way up, i started noticing those tent caterpillars, then i noticed the larva sacks in the aspens. that stretch through the aspens is usually my favorite, but those tents made it creepy. i thought they were killing the aspens until i got back to camp and googled it. apparently the cycle is a year - the aspen leaves will be back next year. this year though... ew.

the disgust continued after the aspens when i came upon some migrant trash. i have seen that on miller before, but this was a first for me on carr. there were at least eight backpacks, dirty clothing, empty water bottles, and empty green chile cans. this was a dump spot for sure.

onward and upward, when i started up the carr peak spur, i said hello to many of the summit challenge people, and most didn't even make eye contact, let alone say hello. that was a hard hike though, and they still had miles to go. it was kind of cool to get the cowbell treatment at the peak, and the volunteers cheered me on, even though i didn't have a number to log for their challenge. i ran into one person i recognized from instagram and folks at the top were more talkative to be sure.

on the way down, there was a volunteer that was suffering from dehydration. her husband was on the phone with the EMTs and they were figuring out what to do. she had plenty of water, but apparently wasn't able to keep it down. they assured me that they were getting the help they needed, and i made my way down the rest of the way.

oh! apple watch stats: time: 3:02:13, distance: 6.03 miles, active calories: 855, total calories: 1,133, elevation gain: 1,961, avg. heart rate: 130 bpm, average pace: 30'12"/mile, weather: 73 degrees, humidity 6 percent (and super windy).
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does new mexican locust count? lots of that blooming in the lower section.

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Signed up for the single Peak Challenge again this year, same as last year. Hiked up to the saddle with minimal rest stops. Made pretty good time, but my legs were feeling it. Took an early lunch break at the saddle before continuing the rest of the way, and that helped. It was quite windy at the saddle, and it got windier and windier the close we got to Carr Peak. I had to tighten up the chin strap on my hat to keep from losing it. But sorrow on the peak it wasn't windy at all. Just a pleasant light breeze. But wind was cranking as soon as we started down off the peak.

That 4 mile descent down Miller Canyon is a real bitch. Steep, rocky, and it seems to go on forever. I felt much better than last year when I had to stop many times on the way down just to make it. It also helped that I knew the trail which better prepared me mentally. But my knees were feeling it by the time I got to the bottom.

All in all a great day in the Huachuca Mountains. A very well organized event by the city of Sierra Vista. I will do it again next year for sure!
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Oct 28 2021
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45 male
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 Cochise County
Crest Trail #103Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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AndrewAZTriplogs 24
Hiking16.65 Miles 5,640 AEG
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1st trip
Starting at Montezuma Pass TH, going along the Crest Trail to Miller Peak, then along the Crest again to Carr Peak, and then all the way back to Montezuma Pass.

My first hike as a resident of the county. At the first overlook (not even .5 mi from the TH), a startled coati bolted through the tall grass into the nearby rocks. An auspicious start to living/hiking here.

Didn't see anyone else until I was on Miller Peak--two guys were on the far end of the southwest ridge that stretches away from the peak. Looked like hunters doing spotting prep work.

I hadn't been along the Crest from Miller to Bathtub Spring since I did the AZT a decade ago. Absolutely wonderful. The pine forests on the top of the sky islands really are God's country.

While I enjoy the "more open + tall grass + occasional pines" scenery that dominates after Bathtub Spring, it makes for much hotter hiking. The climb to Carr Peak was toasty.

On the way out, as I descended from the big juniper that's 2 miles from the TH, I kept hearing voices, so I assumed I would catch some hikers in front of me. I never caught them, but I kept hearing them. When I started looking hard, I realized there were 4 people doing a bushwhack straight down from the big juniper (where the Crest trail curves to the west of the canyon). They were maybe .5 mile down, and had quite a way to go through steep, rough country to reach the road at the bottom of the canyon. I hope they made it.
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Sep 18 2021
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52 male
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 Tempe, AZ
Sunnyside Carr, AZ 
Sunnyside Carr, AZ
 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Backpack19.78 Miles 5,305 AEG
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I'd never hiked Sunnyside 117 so I figured it would be a fun way to get up into the chookas to enjoy the abundant wildflowers this range provides after monsoon rains. We figured it would be a good one to make an overnight and camp near the crest. The forecast called for some good chances of rain and we dodged a few drops on both Saturday and Sunday along with some robust lightning and breezes, but the major cells avoided us.

The lower part of 117 was a pleasant streamside walk, with plenty of flowing water and beautiful shaded oak forest. From the old mine site at Rattlesnake Spring, the trail is a steep and brutal climb that ended up breaking us all. Except for cheating and driving up to the reef, there is simply no trail that gets to the top of this range that isn't an aggressive climb. Carrying an overnight pack makes it tougher.

Just before the crest, I got buzzed by a twinspotted. It's the 2nd one I've seen, and I do really like them ... they're so small! After a couple miles of traversing along the crest we finally found a spot and set up camp and took an extended break. The planned trip over to Miller was replaced with some much-earned do-absolutely-nothing time! But after a storm cleared the area we found some energy and headed over to Carr under beautiful late afternoon light ... where I encountered another twinspotted on the trail! :y:

We settled in front of a warm fire on a pleasant evening that didn't drop below 50. After a lazy and slow morning we began to pack up camp. Again we decided against a trip out to Miller and instead began the 8 mile descent back down the hill. After discussion we opted to skip making a lasso loop with the Eureka trail in favor of the pleasant creekside hike in Sunnyside.

On the way down, we encountered Belinda and crew on their way up and chatted for a bit. As we crossed the wilderness boundary we encountered a gaggle of AZT hikers who had passed by camp the night before. They were in better spirits today but may have been a bit jealous our hike was ending at the 117 trailhead and not the 5 extra miles to Parker. Besides a couple of trail runners Sunday morning, they were the only other hikers we saw.

On the drive home we stopped in Sonoita for a bit to enjoy the Santa Cruz county fair with a quick spin on the ferris wheel.
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Dozens of varieties, as summer rains always provide here.
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Jul 17 2021
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77 male
 Joined Feb 28 2003
 Tucson, AZ
Carr Peak Trail #107Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Part of a one night camping trip to Ramsey Vista CG in mid July. Things were looking good after about two weeks of summer rains (much needed).
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plants were starting to wake up and be happy again :)
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Jun 25 2021
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51 male
 Joined Apr 30 2008
 Tucson, AZ
Carr Peak - Comfort Springs LoopTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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azdesertfatherTriplogs 1,144
Hiking9.20 Miles 2,730 AEG
Hiking9.20 Miles   4 Hrs   20 Mns   2.36 mph
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What an awesome hike! Loved this today. Wanted to get in a good hike with views with my buddy Jason, and get out of the desert heat. So many fires burning so many good ranges, feel like options are limited these days. Remembered the Huachucas from doing Arizona Trail segment 1, so glad I did. Amazing views, birds chirping all over the place, and the fresh smell of pine in many places. Honestly I think this is one of my favorite ranges in the state. There were a couple of spots where we saw vestiges of illegal activity…oddly places pieces of clothing that upon closer looks revealed unofficial trails, and empty Mexican electrolyte bottles, but not too bad.

Ramsey Vista campground is so nice in that you start hiking at 7200 feet, so no hiking down to lower elevations in the heat of the day. Did the loop clockwise which was a good choice, though there were some warm, exposed spots near the end that were a little toasty even at 7000 ft.

Carr Peak is totally bare and exposed, unreal views. So much of this loop has incredible views, as you get a 360 view from beginning to end.

Surprised by how the AZT was almost totally unmarked in the section we did, especially with all the trails it crosses in that section.

Also surprised that we didn’t run into a single hiker the entire day. Granted it was a Friday, but still! This time of year?! With the limited options we have around Tucson?
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May 29 2021
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 Phoenix, AZ
Hamburg Trail #122Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Hiking12.48 Miles 4,274 AEG
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The Sky Island Summit Challenge. I did the single summit challenge which was to Carr Peak. I found it challenging, and feel great about finishing. The challenge event was run by the city of Sierra Vista and they did a great job! Very well organized.

The hike started started at The Nature Conservancy Ramsey Canyon Preserve. The city took us there on buses. The hike went up Hamburg Trail, then the Carr Peak Trail, and back down Miller Canyon Trail where cans shuttled us back to our cars. The double and triple summit challenge hikers started earlier in the day.

The trail was really pretty. It went through beautiful forest in Ramsey Canyon. Then it started going up a grueling series of switch backs which started spreading the group out. Then it went back down into the canyon for a while which was much less step and a pleasant relief. But that didn't last as eventually we had to climb out of the canyon. The climb seemed endless and my legs were definitely feeling it. But finally we made it to Bear Saddle where the Hamburg Trail meets the Crest Trail. The view from the saddle was amazing. We rested there a bit before continuing on.

The next leg along the Saddle Trail started out fairly level with great views. It was also in the sun. The Hamburg Trail had been in shady forest, but now we were walking in the sun. Then the trail climbed with a series of switchbacks to the junction with the Carr Peak Trail. This trail climbed gently for a little under a mile to the short spur trail that led to the Peak. Fantastic view from the top. Well worth it.

The return had us retrace our path back to the Crest Trail, then down the Miller Canyon Trail which was one endless step downhill slog. Passed lots of folks in Miller Canyon who were complaining about their knees and generally struggling. My legs were stiff and sore, but eventually made it to the pick up point.

Overall this was a fun hike through beautiful mountains. Thank you to the city of Sierra Vista for organizing this great experience! I will definitely do this again.
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Apr 23 2021
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31 male
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 Phoenix, AZ
Carr - Miller - Ramsey Loop, AZ 
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Hiking22.79 Miles 5,900 AEG
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Second time in the Huachucas. Threw together a loop that'd see more Crest and get me on top of Ramsey and the brothers Pat Scott. Had a go from the Sawmill TH around 6am. Road is probably doable in low clearance, but I wouldn't if it were my investment.

Sawmill Trail up to Carr Peak Trail. Really just a connector for those of us looking to save a few minutes driving time. Most reliable spring en route was putting out a decent flow and should be for a couple months more.

Carr Peak trail swings up the mountain quickly. Good tread, least tree cover on the day. Carr Peak views hazy in the early morning. Offers the best angle on Miller and time to wonder about the ubiquitous zeppelin down in the foothills.

Down Carr to Crest then out and back to Miller. More good tread this time through the surviving forest of fir and pine. Up the ridge steeper and steeper as it nears the Miller Peak Trail. Passes through a huge, young grove of aspen. There is a lot to see along this loop come autumn, expanding my search for this year outside of Ramsey Canyon. Half the elevation gain is out of the way by the time Miller summit comes. Best views of day, apart from maybe Ramsey.

Crest all the way back to the Carr jct. Clouds started to coalesce over the mountains. Kept going to the Hamburg jct and the track became unfamiliar. Perfect weather for the money stretch of Crest Trail. From Granite Mountain to the end of Crest at the Fort Huachuca border, I'm not sure there's better hiking in the state. It is as good as anywhere. Shady in the fir, cold breeze, and warm intermittent sunlight. Will never take Wisconsin Canyon down again, it is so worth it to loop around to Pat Scott Canyon.

Got Pat Scott #1 on the way to Ramsey and #2 on the way back. #1 is several times better than #2, which is marked as Pat Scott Peak on most maps. Weather increasingly dramatic as I started the climb up Ramsey.

The topos I looked through differed on the whether or not there is a trail to Ramsey, and it turned out there isn't one. Ascending Ramsey was probably the hardest part of the loop. It is easiest to summit if you stay north of the ridgeline, otherwise it is a good bushwhack. Unfortunately, this involves trespassing onto military property. If stepping 50ft into the seldom traveled upper reaches of military land is a deal breaker, I would say the peak cannot be summited using the ridge I did. The only person I met all day was on the summit tinkering with a ham radio when I got there. He came straight up the ridgeline from the preserve, a shorter, more difficult, and legal route. I asked what he made of the military border, and he shrugged. There are no signs marking it, no signs forbidding passage, only a fence line that is broken where the deer cross and somebody has marked the route by hanging reflective yellow flags from tree limbs.

Pat Scott Canyon back down. Just as good as Wisconsin Canyon. Firs, pines, oaks, maples. Really might make a good fall loop if the timing is right. The canyons in the Huachucas steep as anything, but Pat Scott makes easy work of the quick descent.

After that Hamburg for about 5 minutes before Comfort Springs. Beautiful woods on the backside of Carr. Second hardest part of the day was ascending Comfort springs and getting back out of the canyon. Once down around the Hamburg Mine, there was still ~1200 feet to gain. Pushed through that last section looping back around. Only saw the one hiker, not too busy up there. Temps from 40s-70s.
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Some on Carr Peak, some near Miller Peak. Nothing good.

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Oct 10 2020
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43 female
 Joined Jun 23 2015
 Phoenix, AZ
Carr PeakTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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We began at Ramsey Vista Campground and went to Carr Peak first, then over to Miller Peak via Crest Trail, which was definitely the more scenic part of the hike. Lovely fall-ish day.
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Jul 25 2020
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 Jackson, CA
Lutz Canyon Trail #104Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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toddakTriplogs 577
Hiking19.50 Miles 7,000 AEG
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Nice figure-8 route on a mostly overcast monsoon day. Up Lutz to the Crest, up Miller and Carr Peaks, around on Comfort Springs, back up on Hamburg, down Miller and out to Hunter trailhead. Bike shuttle back to Lutz trailhead. Good water at 2 springs plus light creek flow in two places along Comfort and also in Miller Canyon.

Every trail I've done so far in the Huachucas has been outstanding - I'll be back!
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Jul 04 2020
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53 female
 Joined May 15 2009
 Phoenix and Tucs
Carr PeakTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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we arrived about 5 pm on july 2, and found only two of the campsites taken where we like to camp, and our favorite spot was available, so we jumped on it. i didn't know whether i wanted to rest on the 3rd and hike on the 4th or the other way around. there was a chance that the weatherman randy was going to join for saturday, so i went ahead and procrastinated, which is a normal state for me. the evening of the 3rd saw the biggest gain in campers, and most decided to leave before the planned socially distant fireworks in sierra vista. i had some hearty oatmeal to start, and then i was on my way. so far away from the yelling kids, the unz unz, and the vehicle noise.

some people like to hike for fitness, and that's not me. some people like to hike for the camaraderie. also... not me. i want to get as far away from it all as possible, and that's when you'll find me smiling from ear to ear on the trail.

i started on the sawmill springs trail, which tries to kill me every time i hike up or down that damn thing, and after i got on the carr peak trail, i saw that someone had numbered the switchbacks in paint (vandals). i had noticed this the last time i hiked it, so this time i figured i'd go ahead an take a picture to document the destruction. i was also wondering how many switchbacks before i couldn't hear the screaming children, the vehicles struggling up the hill, or the unz unz of the vehicle's "music." the answer, for those of you wondering, is just two to not hear the children, and eight to not hear any signs of vehicles. and here i was debating whether or not to go all the way... i heard fellow hikers at switchback 9, and even with my slow hiking, it took another switchback to not hear those voices.

i didn't have very good cell service at the campsite, so i was planning on calling my mom when i got to the top for her birthday. i opened a celebratory beer and had a good conversation with my mom until it started raining. i cut the call short, downed the rest of my beer, and before i knew it, the rain had turned to hail. it wasn't too far along the trail, when the thunder and lightning started too. i'm glad i made it off the unprotected peak and down the trail a bit before that. the hike down was pleasant, with the softer dirt under my feet. the rocks were still unforgiving though. a few more breaks communicating with folks because i had cell service, and i eventually made it back to camp. it had rained there, too, and it continued to sprinkle on and off for a couple of hours.

i had great plans to watch the sierra vista fireworks from the picnic bench on top of the hill, but the view wasn't great, and it was too far away to see much of anything.

we packed up camp the next morning and had breakfast burritos in sierra vista before making our way back to the sweltering heat if the valley. the weekends always end too soon.
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