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Butterfly Trail #536 - Mingus - 10 members in 29 triplogs have rated this an average 3.5 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Mingus Mountain CampgroundPrescott, AZ
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Nice overnighter up on Mingus.
A little hiking, birding, geocaching, exploring and relaxing.
The old dam at the start of Butterfly is gone, and there is no water in the tank a little way up the trail, but the seep where the dam used to be is a bird magnet! More Western Tanagers than I've ever seen at once, plus Lazuli Bunting, Black-headed Grosbeak, etc.
Hiked around Mingus Lake (aka Elk Tank) in the late afternoon and the next morning - always a good spot. Also saw the AGFD fish truck dumping in some fish.
Picked up about six geocaches.
Visited the launch ramp - no hang gliders, unfortunately.
Checked out Mingus Lookout - was disappointed that it was unoccupied ... was hoping to go up.
Also got a nice gift from my camp neighbor.
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Pretty full.
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I suggested three reasonable hikes and Bruce picked the coolest/easiest option. FR104 is the turn off 89A and is now paved for a mile or two. Driving up, the camps or retreats were loaded. We parked in the big lot just before the smaller #106 lot.

North Mingus Trail #105
We hiked the road up to the hang glider launch, the south end of #105. The drop is steep with great views if you look past your feet. I much prefer to ascend but know how much Bruce hates the ascent. He ran down and played with Spotted Towhees at the junction while I inched down without dying.

Bug Hollow Trail #548
From #105 we utilize the nice shaded use-trail to Bug Hollow. It's the steepest 0.5-mile stretch of the day but almost goes unnoticed with good tread through the forest. A slight descent put us in good spirits on Bug Hollow for 0.8 miles.

Upper Mescal Trail #550
0.75 miles up to an 0.4 mile use-trail that delivers us to the Mingus Picnic/Rest Area we occasionally use as a starting point. The use-trail is notable for yellow bark locust thickets. Which is a semi-friendly stage between the nightmare bush stage and the tall 6-10 inch diameter tree version. Leveling out to the rest area we listened to a few house wrens.

Butterfly Trail #536 - Mingus
Whereas Bug Hollow is typically a cool bugless pocket, this nicer-named drainage was warmer and gnatty due to a stagnant trace of a creek after the full dam.

Middle Trail #537
Middle children are often excluded, ignored, or even outright neglected because of their birth order. That makes perfect sense if you hike this trail, but it gets the job done. Bruce once found a Fitbit along this trail. He attempted to contact the owner without success so it's one of the many stories replayed throughout the hike.

Lunch
We enjoyed lunch on a cool concrete picnic table.

Coleman Trail #108
I don't hike as much as grandpa push-ups & speedos, so this segment was cursing my world. To make matters worse, somebody moved my damn tree and killed it.

Gaddes Canyon Two Trail #9037
Despite 87° I love this trail. The new twist to us was a long stretch of poison ivy. Nearly a dozen times I heard... you brushed against it. I increasingly tried to avoid it but the concern is mute compared to avoiding the biting noseeums that deliver 10x pain.

Gaddes Canyon #110
Bruce carries postage-stamp-sized alcohol wipes so we attempted to remove the antigen oil urushiol. Either that worked or my legs were slathered in enough cryptobiotic dirt, cuz nothing has surfaced or itched a day later now.

Synopsis
Mingus is fabulous in the Autumn and a nice option otherwise. JBM, 🦋joe🦋butterfly🦋mode, emitted a steady release of therapeutic joy throughout the hike. Zero hikers encountered. We would have passed more hikers along Inner Basin but not sure I could have dealt with BBM crying up a storm about a beautiful six-mile road walk.
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Not much, it's almost summer.

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maybe a half quart a minute, anything more is an exaggeration.

dry Butterfly Tank Dry Dry

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No such moisture was obsevered

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Mingus Lake 76-100% full 76-100% full
As full as I recall and well-used, parking was full when we left.
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Joe's week to pick and with the temps soaring, the choices were getting slimmer. Wally had a last-minute charging problem and bailed. After discounting Lion Peak, we settled on this loop that we've done many variations of over the years (usually in the fall for the colors). I like this figure 8 loop because the loops are divided almost in half. Parking the vehicle at the crossover spot allows you to carry half the water, leaving the remainder as well as your lunch in a cooler, with available picnic tables, restrooms, etc.

We opted to hit up the northern part of the loop first. Nice cool temps heading down the North Mingus Trail #105. The trail is loaded with oaks and maples which are beginning to encroach on the trail in many places. Good views to the north of Bill Williams, Sitgreaves, Kendrick, and the SF Peaks. To the west, the nearby Woodchute.

We've been using a steep 2-track, that turns into a pleasant non-official trail, short cutting to Bug Hollow #548. We wound our way over to our short road walk (now paved) to the Butterfly Trail. The water behind the dam was surprisingly full.

All this led to our vehicle, lunch, and a fluid refill.

The Trail #108 is my least favorite trail out here but necessary to complete the loop. It's rocky and hot, being exposed. It does afford some good views, but you must stop hiking to take them in. At this point, the JBM was in the yellow, fast approaching the red. I could hardly wait for the climb up Gaddes Canyon.

The Gaddes 2 and Gaddes Trails are pretty trails that climb 3.5 miles and 1300' back to our starting point. It's mostly under tree cover, helping with the heat approaching the mid-80s. The new problem this year seems to be the addition of quite a bit of PI. Not a moment too soon, we made it back to the car. Joe's meter had pegged and broken.
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Running and the water behind the dam was close to full

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North Mingus Trail #105Prescott, AZ
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Prescott trip with Ryan, day 1:
Mingus looked comparatively storm free, so I stitched together a route on the drive up. We parked at the 89A highway summit and walked the Mingus road to Butterfly Trail. We followed Butterfly’s spaghetti-bowl route through stands of recently thinned ponderosa and muddy logging debris to the northern tip of Mingus Mountain, where we could see towering thunderstorms approaching quickly from the east. We made a quick descent on North Mingus’ upper ridge to get to lower ground, enjoying the rugged, forested slopes immensely. The storms faded before they hit us, thankfully. Saw just a hint of maples starting to change. We followed North Mingus Trail west to the unmarked connector trail that took us to Bug Hollow Trail, and then went off trail for a bit as I wanted to check out the mystery pit I had seen from afar on a brushy slope. Would it be a mine, or a cave? Neither. It was a large trench dug into limestone bedrock for some unknown reason. And there were two of them. Ryan and I dropped down through the thick brush to Mescal Trail and followed it up canyon to Upper Mescal Trail. At precisely 5:30 we turned onto trail 530 (Old Dump Trail according to Prescott NF’s website…great name), and made the short trek back to our trailhead. Headed into Prescott for the night afterward for Mexican food. Great hike, lots of variety, and Ryan’s first in-depth Black Hills/Mingus hike.
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Same idea as last summer with two basic goals: hike the length of Gaddes and Burnt Canyons and find a better route down from West Rim to Powerline. With the cold front coming and going the day before, it seemed like a good day for water in the creeks and clouds above and below View Point Trail. Ended up super good timing and maybe the best day I've spent on Mingus. Started at Mescal Tank with North Mingus.

North Mingus and View Point had been trimmed back since the summer, so rain and snow melt on the trailside brush was mostly a nonissue. A little muddy but nothing too bad. North Mingus a mix of forest and views. Clouds below to the north were even better once on View Point. Walked above, below, and inside them until topping out on Mingus.

Quarter inch of snow on top of Mingus Mountain that had mostly melted by sundown. Gaddes Canyon had a trickle in the snowy top of the trail and below the road on Black Canyon Trail. Once into Black and Burnt Canyons the flow picked up. Not too strong but more than a trickle. Clouds rolled overhead the whole way. Burnt canyon is mellow with a better and better forest heading up. The upper mile or two is picture perfect open ponderosa forest. The middle section had some smooth, rocky sections that are awesome with water flowing. The going is relatively easy the whole way, not much to maneuver around or bushwhack through.

Diverted from the end of Burnt Canyon up to the tank North of Kendall Peak. On the way noticed a pair of graves with a metal sign that read "Ram Dog" from which a grey collar hung. Walked the road with some corner cutting to Yaeger Cabin Trail. Passed the only person I saw all day on Yaeger Canyon and then commenced the mile or so roadwalk to Butterfly. Straight through the woods from Middle To West Rim and then over to the edge of the mountaintop.

I took a ridge NW off the very northern tip of the mountain. It was a way better track down than last time, and though a moderate bushwhack I was on Powerline in twenty minutes. On the way down enjoyed views of Humphreys and Sedona that shine in the last couple hours of the day. Straightforward trip back down. On the day saw the one person, two coyotes, a half dozen deer, and lion tracks near the upper Black Canyon TH and Mingus Lake.

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Pools/trickle higher up, below the road light flow
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Did the excellent 10/17/20 @The_Eagle and @joebartels double-looper, starting at the summit picnic area just off 89A. Went clockwise on both loops. Lots of green, happy forest after the good monsoon. Several sections of road walking required, but worth it to link multiple fine but isolated trails.
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Nice loop hike on Mingus.

Trailhead access at the picnic area was no issue as it was paved, right off the highway. The trails were damp with the recent rain and some were a little overgrown but overall a really nice loop.

The trail from the parking to Upper Mescal was probably the most overgrown but short. On the quick hike up to Upper Mescal TH we saw two deer. No trail between the Upper Mescal TH and the Bug Hallow TH but easy to navigate since you parallel the highway. Bug Hallow Trail was nice, and it was great to finish the entire trail on one hike. North Mingus Trail is a gem, especially the single-track which takes you into some nice pines. The Mingus Trail elevates the climb up to the top and definitely gets the heart pumping when hiked in the uphill direction. At the top of Mingus there were signs of trail closures due to a large logging effort. No logging was happening on this day so we stayed on the road and then hiked around the logging area as best we could eventually joining the planned trail hike back to the TH. Saw two more deer as we were hiking around the logging area.

Fantastic hike, but then Mingus never fails to deliver a first-rate hiking experience.
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Attempted to loop Gaddes Canyon with the entirety of Burnt Canyon since I'd never seen either running with water. Ended up cutting it short and skipped the roughest portions of Burnt Canyon. Probably started too far away, but I hadn't stretched my legs in a while, and I was curious to try descending off the mountain from West Rim to Powerline without a trail. Started from around Mescal Tank and went clockwise at 5am.

Soaking wet on North Mingus and View Point. Little overgrown on both, got started and stayed wet through Gaddes. Only a little mud round the east side of the mountain. Sweet sunrise views over a sea of clouds settled in the Verde Valley. Clouds were sliding up Mingus behind me by the time I topped out on View Point.

The short stretch of Gaddes Canyon I did was the muddiest part of the day. Water running down the trail in parts. Got into Gaddes Canyon and onto Gaddes Two with the unfamiliar roar of water. Never paid attention to how many creek crossings there are before. There are many, and they were rather wide and difficult. Longest trip down Gaddes before and one of the most delightful.

Had planned on taking Black Canyon Trail down to Black Canyon and following Burnt Canyon back up. It was already looking pretty stormy on the Mingustop, and clouds were pushing their way up Black Canyon and over the ridge. Decided the views were better on the road despite the water in the canyon, plus I was worried how rough it would be in spots along the lower end of Burnt Canyon with the water running high. Wanted to avoid that frustration and was trying not to descend off the mountain in a late morning storm. So I cut the corner and took the road past upper Black Canyon and climbed down into Burnt Canyon from a campsite. It's definitely beautiful any time of year but with the brown stream of water flowing down in the wide draw through the open pines, and especially on a stormy day, it was real special. Easy travel from there up, successfully cut out the bushwhacking.

Roads and woods to Yaeger Cabin Trail. First time on that one and was impressed. Runs through the forest below the road. Nice connector. Best not on a weekend with Mingus' car traffic. Took that to Yaeger Canyon and up the road to Butterfly. Cut the thirty feet up from the road and followed it along the harvest boundary. Thinning going on east by the hang-gliding area. In retrospect, I think Butterfly, Middle, and West Rim are closed, as well as the hang-gliding area. Took Middle for a couple minutes then up through the woods to West Rim. West Rim is not marked for thinning. Nice to see the forest thinned, but's also nice to know at least one corner will be left alone.

Got to the edge of Mingus and it was all clouds and fog. Could not see a thing. Walked the edge until I thought I found a wide enough game trail to descend. It was steep, wet, muddy, disorienting, and totally rad. Bounced around the mountainside and was lucky not to cliff out. Trails here and there. Moderate bushwhack. Only 600 feet down, will try a ridge next time. Made it to Powerline/Bug Hollow and had an uneventful and wonderfully cloudy walk back to the car. Didn't see anyone all day besides some logging trucks. Many deer. 60s-70s. Lots and lots of mushrooms. Imagine the mountain will dry up quick.
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With hotter temperatures in the valley, we headed north for some cooler weather and returned to Mingus Mountain for a longer loop-version of a hike we did in Gaddes Canyon last fall. We mapped out a figure-eight loop of ~19 miles and planned to take a detour over to Geronimo Cabin, which would add ~ one more mile. We started at Mingus Rec Area in the middle of the "eight" and started clockwise down Coleman Trail to FR 413 and connected with Gaddes Canyon Trail. We had some nice views looking east over Cottonwood from the overlook near the parking lot and at various points along the trail, but it was a hazy/smoky morning, and the colors were very muted looking toward Sedona.

Partway up Gaddes, we left the trail and cut up the side of the canyon toward Geronimo Cabin. We eventually connected with a drainage and started making our way back south with a plan to move west toward the cabin once we were at the right elevation. The route may have worked, but between increasingly thick brush and lots of bouldering, it was slowing our pace enough that we decided to save the cabin for another day from a faster approach so we could keep moving and get more mileage in on the loop. It would have been interesting to see the cabin, but we headed back to Gaddes, passed the lookout tower, and completed the southern loop, which was ~8 miles total.

For the upper portion of the figure-eight, we started counterclockwise from the rec area and passed the TV/radio towers and the hang-gliding launch area. There were a few nice overlooks along that stretch, including some views of Jerome and the San Francisco peaks, but the colors were still very washed out and faded in the haze even in the afternoon sun. We could also see smoke from a wildfire burning in the distance to the northeast.

We started down the switchbacks at North Mingus and could tell that we weren't going to have time to complete the full northern loop as we'd planned, and rather than get to the bottom of the canyon just to turn around and start back up and see the same scenery, we opted to turn back early and start clockwise along the loop to see Butterfly Spring. Back on top of Mingus, it was easy hiking through the forest, and the trunks of a lot of the trees were marked with bands of orange spray paint around eye level, presumably for future thinning. We saw some deer on the way to Butterfly Tank and Spring, which were both dry. There was one tank with some water (not named on any maps that I've seen) near Butterfly Spring. We turned around at the dam near FR 104, where a single tree stump on the ground was covered in neon graffiti.

We headed back to the starting point at the Rec Area and checked out the overlook one more time. We didn't finish the full-figure eight thanks to the time spent on the detour toward Geronimo Cabin, so the hike turned into one southern loop and two shorter out-and-back routes to the north. But we still got some decent mileage, the temperature was perfect, and the views were nice.
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One of my favorite hikes of last year, went round again this time without the lake, lookout, or cabin. Started near the upper Little Yeager TH and went clockwise around 7am. Road to Mingus Lake gate is now paved.

Wanted to get my least favorite sections out of the way first. Little Yeager is a smooth mountain biking trail. Have never passed any bikers on the trail, but I'd be curious to see some of the jumps in action. Took that to Yeager Canyon near 89a and headed back up Mingus.

Road walk past a thousand campers to Butterfly. Highlight stretch begins and goes on for miles. Next up was Middle Trail before turning onto West Rim. Took the first spur to the double track that leads out toward the hang gliding pad. At some point cut through the woods over to that area. Forest thinning hasn't started yet around there.

Roads to Gaddes and then Gaddes 2. Favorite trail of the hike, makes for a nice descent. Black Canyon trail then off trail to Ash Canyon. Was hoping for run off and found a trickle.

Up Kendall and then down and around the ridge back to the car. Only saw one hiker on Little Yeager and a group of mountain bikers on Gaddes. Absolutely beautiful weather. Gate to the lake isn't open yet.
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North Mingus Loop, AZ 
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I wasn't up for a full figure 8 and 9L had done the south loop before, so I opted for the north side. We parked at the pass and started on Upper Mescal before heading downhill through the oaks on Bug Hollow. North Mingus took us through a couple of patches of autumn glory before we opted to climb up the ridge in the shade rather than ascending on the exposed view point trail.

Nobody flying today, but I found an old singletrack that heads from the parking area toward the campground. It's a nice alternative to the road. Heading west across a meadow, I encountered another well-manicured trail that hooked up with Gaddes and that took me up to the lookout tower, where we had a nice break. Heading down from the tower, there are quality use trails that lead to the lake and after crossing the road we opted to do a quick cross country jaunt to find the dead end of the Middle Trail before descending on Butterfly. We encountered several old trails with different colored tree markings in the middle earth section of the mountain. It seems like there could be much better maps of all the routes up here.

Besides at the parking spots and lake, only saw two older folks out on the trails. Since it wasn't a super aggressive plan for the day, we got a little later start, and still got home before I-17 got shut down. #winning
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I took my own advice from last year to utilize an established trail in this mini figure-eight loop. Then I gambled on switching the direction of travel. It's a rare treat going against the grain with such success. The light followed us nearly throughout the day. The foliage symphony crested on one of my favorite trails.

North Mingus Trail #105
We descended since Denny snubbed us. Two short maple pockets with fair color.

Bug Hollow Trail #548 & Upper Mescal Trail #550
Oaks were turning, but I enjoy these anytime. Horseshoe Bend hikers(cough) would call these yawners.

Middle Trail #537
We adjusted the planned route to include the half we never previously hiked. It's an old road in a forest of dense slender pines. Most of which appear to be tagged for thinning. I appreciate dominant pine stretches more in the summer but liked the change of scenery today.

Gaddes Canyon Two Trail #9037
I'm a huge fan of oaks and this trail. After years of dreaming about Gaddes' prime foliage potential, it was incredible. Probably as good as I'll ever experience.

Coleman Trail #108
We usually descend this to get it over with, with less effort. Rocky up top and blazing sun exposure on the slope are the gripes. Even ascending, this was more enjoyable than usual. Time to let go of the old grudge when the slope was a brushy nuisance.
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Out to Mingus for cooler temps and searching for color. The dusty dirt road leading to the top of Mingus is all packed down with fresh aggregate and staked. We find out later from some passing strange-r, that paving will start this week.

We made the obligatory stop at the hang glider spot for the views. The Horse Fire smoke was evident from here. In all my trips to Mingus, I still have yet to see any hang gliders.

Popping down from the top from Mingus on the 105 trail, we got to see some pockets of red maples. Not rim worthy, but very nice nonetheless. On the 2 track portion of the 105, we ran into Curly and Moe (aka @chumley and @John9l). After a short catch up, we continued on our merry way. We passed one of Curly's dirt cairns, shortly thereafter, pointing the way.

We started getting into more Oaks on the 548 and 550 trails, which are Joe's Fav.

After an .8 mile road walk, we were happy to be on the Butterfly Trail (No butterflies were harmed during this portion of the hike, or even seen). We hit the Middle trail I believe for the first time. This will be in future rotations.

After some lunch, we moved on to the southern portion of our figure eight. Gaddes #110 and especially Gaddes Two #9307 have been a favorite of ours for years. We are usually heading steeply up on these. For a change of pace, we headed down and hit the light pretty good on the oaks. Joe went all @Tibber on me taking more than 3 zillion photos of the oaks and walnut trees.

I was not looking forward to the climb up Colman towards the end of an 18+ mile hike, but with a few stops to get my HR down, it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.

One of the most memorable loops up on Mingus.

After delays because of accidents on 69 in front of Lucky's and then believe it or not, a 15 mile backup on I-17 from an accident somewhere around exit 242, I made it home dirty, tired and hungry and thirsty.
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Sep 11 2020
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Geronimo Cabin - Kendall Peak, AZ 
Geronimo Cabin - Kendall Peak, AZ
 
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LJWTriplogs 266
Hiking21.49 Miles 4,242 AEG
Hiking21.49 Miles   7 Hrs   51 Mns   3.03 mph
4,242 ft AEG      45 Mns Break
 
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Back to Mingus for what ended up being one of my favorite hikes of the year. Re-trod some of my favorite old ground on the north side of the loop and borrowed the southern half from HAZ. Originally drew up and hiked a similar loop a month ago, but if I'm remembering right I have @joebartels @The_Eagle and @chumley to thank for the route from Black Canyon to Kendall Peak.

Started at the #533 trailhead (pulloff) off 89a around 6am and went clockwise. Shady until onto Mingus proper on Yaeger Canyon. Alien sunrise through the atmospheric smoke. Orange to rose gold to plain white. Beat back the strength of the sun, and it was cool all day, although it made for weird lighting for snapping pictures.

Road walk to Butterfly. Cut up from the road and walked the stretch of Butterfly that runs adjacent to it. Took that to Middle trail. Two of my favorites on Mingus, but the dense pine forest is marked for clearing. Probably for the best. Walked the woods to the hangliding pad and had a look out through the haze.

More roads to Mingus Lake. Quick break, then through the woods up to the lookout. There was a ranger there walking toward the gate. Said good morning from behind, and he seemed quite unhappy to see me. Turns out the LO area is closed off for the duration of the pandemic. Ended up a real cordial conversation and a nice on-the-feet-break. John and I talked Mingus and firefighting and agreed not to forget what day it was and then went our separate ways.

Gaddes Canyon, up and over the ridge into the Geronimo drainage. Lots of trails to work with getting down. Trail from the drainage all the way to the cabin, and judging by the stonework, spring box, and metal trash, it might be one of Pena's himself. Good amount of catclaw. Cabin is really neat. There's some boots in the cabin that, whether or not they're legit, are in about two dozen shredded pieces.

Back up then down Gaddes Two. Another Mingus favorite. Rest of the loop is pretty much through open ponderosa pine forest that is almost impossible not to love. Black Canyon and Burnt Canyon route goes off trail. Open canyon floor and decent game/use trails make for really easy going travel. Feels far away, apart from the planes and sounds of distant motors. Lots of bear scat and some water in Burnt Canyon. Nice time of year for it with the canyon so lush and green.

Ash Canyon more delightful forest. Up to Kendall Peak which is more of the same only you're going up. To whomever lost their green HikeArizona hat on Kendall Peak's eastern ridge, I found it if you want it back. Views from the top not bad. Prescott ranges. Disturbed a couple hunters who were hanging around near the summit. Whoops. Down the ridge to the road and over another ridge to cut corners and get in on even more pine forest. From there, uneventful but beautiful road walk to Little Yaeger, which is probably best on a mountain bike.

Only saw the three people on the day. Similar trail use on a weekend, but the road traffic goes up. Temperatures never hit 80. Nice way to hold over until fall.
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Jun 14 2020
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North Mingus Trail #105Prescott, AZ
Prescott, AZ
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PrestonSandsTriplogs 2,097
Hiking10.75 Miles 1,892 AEG
Hiking10.75 Miles   5 Hrs      2.53 mph
1,892 ft AEG      45 Mns Break
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Following a night of camping at upper Little Yaeger trailhead, I started hiking from the upper North Mingus trailhead late morning. My first time on this trail in a few years, and everything was looking lush and green. A few new aspens were poking up from the old, dead aspen grove.

The temperature had risen considerably below the Viewpoint junction, where a couple of unseen hikers hooted loudly from the slopes above.

Leaving the shady comfort of the pines, I made a short side trip down to the old Pittsburgh-Jerome Mine, where some remediation work had turned the old mine shaft into a bottomless ventilation/bat portal tube. A rock dropped took 5-6 seconds to hit bottom.

I recalled hiking the unmarked side road on the southeast side of hill 6772 years ago, and thought it might connect with the Bug Hollow Trail. The road didn’t seem to be going the right direction, so I made a moderately bloody bushwhack up the south side of 6772 to access Bug Hollow. Moments later I passed a cairned route heading toward the side road I had been on. Will have to remember that route next time. (Joe, Bruce, is that cairned route the route that you took?)

Bug Hollow and Upper Mescal trails were smooth sailing and a welcome return of pines and shade. I was surprised to see the new 530 Trail, where I stopped for a short lunch break before following it to the highway summit parking area.

Next up was a mile of dust and passing cars while hiking Forest Road 104, and then a return to solitude at Butterfly Spring, where I started east along the ButterflyTrail and Mingus Inner Maze, with their confusing network of mountain-top trails to who-knows-where. A wrong turn here, and some off-trail there dumped me off onto the connector route I remembered, which I followed to the north edge of Mingus Mountain and the North Mingus Trail. A short walk south brought me back to the trailhead and some much anticipated cold water in the ice chest. A bit warm and with less water reserves than I prefer, but all in all a great loop hike. Next stop: Oak Creek.

Water report: Butterfly Spring had about a quart per minute of slimy water flowing. Butterfly tank above had a big pool of stagnant but not too-nasty water.
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Mingus Mountain Figure 8, AZ 
Mingus Mountain Figure 8, AZ
 
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LJWTriplogs 266
Hiking21.07 Miles 3,800 AEG
Hiking21.07 Miles   6 Hrs   50 Mns   3.33 mph
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Trying to find nice mountains for the summer that aren't too far from Phoenix. I'd heard of Mingus before, but not in reference to its hiking trails. Was curious to see what it was all about. I borrowed a figure 8 route a few people have uploaded to this website that seemed to hit just about every trail. What better way to get acquainted with a mountain? I added the highpoint LO and Mingus Lake to sweeten the deal. Parked at the Butterfly trailhead a little before 6am and headed up.

Started on Butterfly and by the time I was at the Middle Trail jct, I realized I had missed the turn north/West Rim. Decided to continue on Middle Trail since it heads more or less the same way. First stop was the hang gliding pad. Took a short break before I had even done any work.

Roadwalk down to Coleman. Wanted to get Coleman/Gaddes done early in the day before it got warm. Coleman was mostly shady and it goes down pretty quick. Another road over to Gaddes2. Shady and cool on the biggest ascent of the day, and water was flowing about half way up. Gaddes reminded me a little of some of the Rim canyons around Payson.

Took the road to the summit/lookout and skipped past it and down the other side through the forest to the lake. Took my only real break of the day. Had the lake to myself. I tried to focus on how nice the bottom half of the 8 was because I had a feeling that descending onto the east side and starting the upper half would be warm and generally not as good as walking through Mingus' crown of pines.

It was warmer, but there were nice views toward Secret Mountain and Humphrey's, and it was a lot clearer than the morning. It was also shadier than expected, and I don't think it was ever above low 80s. Passed one group of hikers all day with 2 miles left, but I lost count of the cars going up and down 104. All the trails were in great shape. Ended up sold on Mingus and with a dozen trails in my back pocket for the future.
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Very isolated, lower elevations, a handful on Bug Hollow and Mescal

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Nov 09 2019
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Mingus - Clipped Butterfly Loop, AZ 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
Hiking19.34 Miles 3,603 AEG
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We started at the Potato Patch Parking lot off 89a on a new Trail, #530. This trail does not seem to be named yet.
It's actually a nice connector that gets you over to the Upper Mescal #550.

I had 3 goals on this hike.

First, find a route down from the Bug Hollow Trail #548, to an old FR connecting to the North Mingus #105 Trail. Success, there was actually a great use trail all the way. This route will be added to the rotation.

Second, find a route up to the rim using an old undocumented trail we'd found the last time up in the area. This is a well defined trail, up to to about the spot we we stumbled upon last time. We lost the trail and just decided to scramble to the top. It took some time and blood, but we made it to some great views.

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Third, we'd held out hope that we'd find the tail end of some color. We've historically had a tough time hit the color on the correct week. No real color to be had again.
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Mingus - Clipped Butterfly Loop, AZ 
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Hiking18.76 Miles 3,645 AEG
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Twist on a great figure eight loop. We navigated shrub and game trails looking for a route to open the door to new looping opportunities. Brute force bridged the mythical puzzle. Minor ego/blood loss. Worthy adventure to curb curiosity. Discovered a couple unknown-old or new trails in the works.

Perfect weather with nice stretches of crunchy oak leaves. Energy dragged on flats and eased descents. Gaddes and Butterfly turned that frown upside down. Ended on a smile.
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a few isolated specimens

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Mingus Meander, AZ 
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Our little family has had a busy month. We made the move from our small apartment into a house! Even with how exciting that was we couldn’t wait to get out and hike. Especially since the weather has been so nice lately. We did the butterfly trail #536 nearly a year ago to the day so we thought we might check out that area again.

Most off this was off trail but we did bump into butterfly trail #536 briefly and west rim trail # 538. Temps were high 60’s and breezy which was perfect. Seemed like every 5 minutes we bumped into deer and even found the largest deer shed ever! 😬

Saw 3 turkeys and saw bear sign everywhere. In one very steep drainage coming off the north slope of Mingus there was very fresh bear crap and torn up logs and stumps everywhere. It also smelled really bad so we told ourselves we just missed a bear! Probably not though.

So with perfect temps, killer views, picturesque forest, and lots of critters todays hike made for a good day!
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Found some water in the canyon bottom. Didn’t see anything resembling a tank though
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Butterfly Trail #536 - MingusPrescott, AZ
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Wow what a great day of hiking! It started off a little hectic though. Nearing Butterfly spring (which was bone dry) we were greeted by I kid you not hundreds of crows. :o It felt like a scene out of a horror movie. They were darting in and out of the trees above us and was actually making us nervous because they would happen to always take off right when we went below them and were knocking dead branches down the trees and onto the ground all around us :o No clue why they chose to congregate in that area?

Anyway we continued up the canyon which was absolutely beautiful. I loved the forest here. Was not expecting the more mixed conifer type forest here. Also lots of beautiful oak trees. And tons of wildlife! Spooked 1 female elk, and as we neared the rim there we saw 7 deer! Those deer picked a hell of a spot to hang out. The views here were insane. We took our lunch break here and enjoyed seeing the red rocks of Sedona, Humphreys Peak, and basically all of northern Arizona :) We just kinda putzed around on the way back. Mainly off trailed it occasionally bumping into West Rim trail # 538 and believe we saw the Middle Trail #537 at 1 point. Just as the hike was winding down and we were getting into the homestretch we spooked 3 more elk! Bull Elk! They had their beautiful velvet antlers and considering it was only may was surprised how big their racks were. :?

This hike was awesome, with the views, wildlife, and cool mountain air. Definitely picked a good one to get away from the 105f weather in Phoenix yesterday!

ps there was a very nice trail that went up Butterfly Canyon that eventually started switchbacking up the southern side. We started off trail at this point but if I had to guess it was gonna link up with the middle trail. Didn't see this trail on any maps.
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