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Jun 04 2024
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Riggs Flat LakeTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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SkyIslander18Triplogs 2,607
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Scenic drive from Safford up to Riggs Lake.
Many stops along the way including the Fort Grant overlook and Post Creek Falls.
First up at Riggs was our short hike on the Lakeshore Trail around the lake and out to the backside overlook.
Next up was a couple hours of R&R fishing.
We quickly caught our limit of 4 rainbows.
We never saw the resident Bald Eagles, but heard them a couple of times.
Campers told us that every evening 3 black bears have been visiting the lake.
Always hate leaving this beautiful little lake, but this was a day trip and next up was the Soldier Creek Ice Caves lower down the mountain.
At Solider we made the short hike down to the caves and had fun poking around the several entrances for about an hour.
One more stop at Columbine ended our time on top before returning back down to town.
Ended our day with pizza and ice cream at Joe's Ride-N-Dine.

We had a 6 year old with us on this trip so not a lot of hiking, but that was ok ... had a wonderful time just taking it easy and enjoying the mountain scenery.
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Sep 03 2022
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 Tempe, AZ
Goudy Grant Loop, AZ 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking14.57 Miles 4,499 AEG
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With a weekend full of options, this was my first choice as I had not previously been on either the Goudy Ridge or Grant Creek trails. A couple of recent reports on Goudy Ridge reflected post-fire trail work had been complete. On the other hand, the report of the death of Grant Creek 305 has been greatly exaggerated. In reality, it is as nice as Goudy Ridge and probably rehabbed by the same crew that did Goudy in mid-2021 sometime. In any case, both trails have been rehabbed post fire and are in fine shape for the limited use each probably sees.

One hiccup we had on the loop came in the lower sections of Goudy 310 where summer monsoon rains have spurred grass that has grown to about knee high. We missed one switchback in the 6800-6400 stretch but it took about 20 seconds to realize it and get back on the nicely cut tread. Grass persisted all the way to the creek, but even a marginally attentive hiker should not get off track.

Grant was flowing nicely and we followed the old road upstream. Post-fire flood damage is evident and looks like the trail has been relocated above a couple of eroded banks. At the arrow-signed fork (which mysteriously points only one way) we headed up to check out the falls which were flowing nicely. For hikers who start at the bottom, this appears to be the primary destination and the trail is nicely maintained and easy to follow. After a break at the falls we headed back to the fork and continued upstream trying to avoid as much poison ivy as possible. It's not too bad, but I gave up trying to avoid it and resigned myself to a thorough scrubbing when we got back to camp.

We took a final break where the trail crosses Post Creek just before it begins the solid climb back up to Cunningham. The fire burned through here but there was still plenty of unburned tree cover and well-cleared trail. Every switchback has a nice rock border built so even if aggressive growth occurs in the next few years, the tread should be easy to spot. As it is currently, it's just a solid 2000 foot climb in 3 miles that we managed to knock off in about 90 minutes.

The second hiccup of the day occured at the very top of the trail where it cuts through a severely burned matchstick zone. Here the tread is fully lost to grass and deadfall that doesn't appear to have been cut. This lasts for less than a quarter mile from the 8800 foot contour up about 100 feet, but it's easy enough to just make your way to the ridge and find the route again.

From here I took off ahead of the others, crossed Moonshine Creek and climbed up to the road. Not excited about the 3 mile road walk back to camp, I flashed some calves to flag down the first truck I saw, and Cletus'd my way into the bed for an easy ride back to camp where I promptly hopped in my truck and headed back to pick up John and Karl.

This was a great loop with awesome scenery, caves, waterfalls, wildflowers, perfect weather, clouds, breezes, distant views, etc. And definitely a solid workout. I'm glad that the fire didn't affect this drainage more severely. It's a winner.

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Sep 03 2022
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55 male
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 Phoenix, AZ
Goudy Grant Loop, AZ 
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BiFrostTriplogs 1,257
Hiking14.57 Miles 4,499 AEG
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Great solid hike that Chumley put together and was the main hike of the weekend. As a bonus we were able to start from the camp area heading down Goudy Ridge. On the top there was a small cave that we checked out and then the long descent down the ridge. Great views on Goudy Ridge and decent trail except for the thick grass in some sections.

Eventually it drops off the ridge and into Grant Creek where we linked up with that trail. Took a short break at the junction and enjoyed some good strong flow in Grant Creek. Tons of water running presumably due to good monsoon season rains. After lunch we hiked up the trail/road to the next objective Grant Creek Falls.

The falls trail forks off the main trail about a mile to base of Grant Creek Falls. Very impressive falls and with all the rain I'm assuming it was well above average flow. Took another break before hiking back to the main trail.

Continuing up Grant Creek the trail eventually leaves the drainage and switchbacks up the ridge. Despite some fire damage the switchbacks were well maintained and easy to follow. That made the 2000 foot climb much easier than it could have been. It didn't take long before we reached the ridgeline and the eventual trailhead and road.

Unfortunately our vehicle was 3 miles back at camp but Chumley used his social skills and managed to hitch a ridge back to camp. John and I didn't have to wait long before Chumley showed up. Great loop hike!
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Jul 19 2022
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55 male
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Webb Peak from Ash Creek THTucson, AZ
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Started with a stop at the Columbine visitor center for a visit with our friend.
The hike - Columbine up to Webb Peak :next: a bit down Chesley Flat (lost the trail) :next: down to Solider Creek :next: Swift Trail back to Columbine.
Lots of burn area, but with a very lush green forest floor and many wildflowers adding color.
Nice breezy temps up high, a few dark clouds above with a few sprinkles here and there.
3 turkeys and one white-tail spotted.
Fun hike with a fun friend!
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Apr 20 2022
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 Rimrock, Arizona
Riggs Flat LakeTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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First trip up to Riggs this year and it was a good one!
Weather was amazing, road in good shape, hardly anyone there.
Two campers at Riggs, zero at Soldier Creek, zero at Treasure Park, a bunch at Arcadia for some reason.
Enjoyed several good conversations at Riggs - with Jonathon the birder/fisherman, Anna the AZGFD Ranger who was testing the water quality, and a nice local family and their very adorable pitty, Princess - who enjoyed watching the Eagles with me, and asked me to take their family photo.
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May 10 2021
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Riggs Flat LakeTucson, AZ
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Overnight camp with Jayden high on Graham.

Monday - Arrived at Riggs Lake in the AM and right away got our lines in the water for dinner. Holy smokes we caught our limit of rainbows (8) in under a 1/2 hour ... the fishing was GOOD!
We then set up our campsite (#16) and hiked the Lakeshore Trail followed by a hammock rest. At sunset we built our campfire and had dinner. Later into the night we made our way down to the lake shore to take in the endless stars on the moonless night ... wow!
Day 1 ended back at the campfire with conversation, laughs and bed.

Tuesday - Awoke early to a nice 50 degree morning. Packed up camp and headed out to the end of the Swift Trail for the hike of the day. We looped CP counter-clock, always a nice little hike through the aspens. Leaves are just starting to come in. After hike plan was to just slow roll our way back down the mountain taking our time with stops at Solider Creek, Treasure Park, Arcadia & RTM campgrounds.

Good overnight with a great friend on an Awesome mountain!
TY J
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Oct 22 2017
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Swift Trail (State Hwy 366)Tucson, AZ
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My final trip up to the top of Graham to survey the damage left from the Frye Fire before the November 15th winter closure. I met up with Preston and together we headed up the mountain as we have done so many times before. Plan was to survey as many sites as we could and also get in a hike at the end of the Swift Trail. We drove the entire road to it's end and this is what we saw & know .....

We first stopped on the way up for a quick trek up "secret canyon" for some fall colors, looked good and is only gonna get better. A return trip up will be made soon.
Second stop up was made at Ladybug Saddle to show Preston where & how I dislocated my shoulder last week, I was in need of some sympathy.
Then around to the backside/top and into the burn -

Snow Flat - Road down to the CG hit with med intensity burn, campground unaffected and beautiful.
Treasure Park CG - Road down med burn, meadow and CG mostly unaffected and beautiful, the "back" CG hit hard and now gated with "forest closed" sign.
Cunningham CG - Intact, but high burn all around CG. The trail-head for Grant Creek & Moonshine has "closed forest" sign. We could see golden aspens down in Moonshine and a later overlook view showed that lower Grant Creek from Ft Grant TH was unaffected, the upper trail has burned. At Cunningham we talked with a high up Forest Service employee who gave up permission to hike a bit into Ash Creek for a look a little further up the road.
Soldier Creek CG - One of my favorites and I was very happy to see an intact CG with minimal burn around it. The Grant Goudy Ridge (and Ice Caves) TH is open with the standard "caution burn area" sign.
Deadman-Highline Trail - The feel good story of the day! We drove down Bible Camp road to see if the trail-head sign that Preston made and posted back in 2010 made it through the fire. We hiked a bit up the trail through a hard hit area to find burn all-around the perfectly intact sign! It damn near brought a manly tear to my eye to see Preston's joy that it made it through -
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Columbine Corrals CG - From the happiest part of the day to the saddest. We parked at Columbine visitor center and hiked in across the road to the corrals. This whole area is closed including Webb Peak & Ash Creek due to high intensity burn. As stated earlier we had permission to hike a bit in. We took the trail just to where the switchbacks start down and that's about as far as you can go. Of all my trips up since the re-opening, this one punched me in the chest the hardest. I just could not believe I was looking down Ash Creek Canyon ..... black sticks as far as I could see down and on both sides of the canyon. We were told by Forest Service earlier at Cunningham that a decision was made to close and not work on Ash Creek & Frye Mesa Trail (where the fire started) for at least the next 3 years. Webb Peak is also black sticks, but was told that a loop may be re-opened next year.
Riggs Flat Lake - After Ash Creek we continued down the road through much more burn until finally reaching Riggs where the west end of the fire came to an end. We drove down to the lake that does have some minimal burn down, then through the campgrounds & ended with a nice hike around the lake on the Lakeshore Trail. Riggs Lake area for the most part was unaffected by the fire. Merrill Peak was hit on top and I'm sure the backside was too. There is a "burn" sign posted for the Jesus Babcock Trail behind the campground.
CP Flat - Finally on to the end of the road to hike CP Flat. A very needed break from fire damage with an autumn walk through Letty's Grove. I knew we were late for the golden aspen leaves up high, but just as beautiful hiking on the golden leaf road!
Blair Canyon - On the drive back out we stopped at Chesley Flat to see how Blair Canyon fared and as expected ..... not well. High burn and I'm sure Chesley Flat to Webb Peak looks the same.
Quick last stop at the Shake Trail to show Preston the red slurry covered trees at the start of the trail, this entire trail survived and is one of the very few left unaffected.

Our trip ended on the straightaway where Preston dropped me off at my truck, we said our good-bye's & I drove home still processing what I saw on top.

I have now seen the entire top of Graham and have a good understanding to the condition of the majority of the forest & trails. As stated in other logs - I am still shook, bitter & angry over this fire. The damage is much worse then I ever expected. There is still a lot of green up there and I have found a few places that still holds some un-burned beauty that will keep me looking for more. I have spent my entire life going up that mountain and this will take many years to come to peace with ..... I just hope someday I will get there.
I understand that most don't want to read about others personal hardships as I honestly don't like reading them myself. What has happened has happened and I cannot change it only move on - This will be my last log about the Frye Fire of 2017!

To close I just want to thank Preston for taking me up the mountain to view the destruction with me. Seeing it with a good friend made it more bearable. There will be many more great trips up & around Ole' Graham my friend!!!
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Oct 22 2017
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Met up with Chad bright and early after another all-nighter working at the telescope on Mount Graham, and we started up the Swift Trail. The focus of the day was to tour the Pinalenos and see first hand the effects of the Frye Fire of June 2017. Our first stop of the day was at a small canyon that I had passed so many times without ever stopping to explore it. This little hidden gem was loaded with changing maples and flowing water.

As we passed the top end of the Shake Trail, we entered into the main burn area of the Frye Fire. Pitchfork Canyon looked like it had been skewered by the Devil’s flaming pitchfork. A mountain side of black sticks where a lush stand of mature firs had once provided dense shade. The Arrow Tree still stood.

Stop 2 was at Snow Flat. Most of this area had fared well, with the exception being the back road to Treasure Park (Treasure Park via Snow Flat hike is charcoal city). Hospital Flat had some damage but is still beautiful, I think.

Stop 3 was Grant Hill Trailhead. Grant Hill was almost entirely consumed in a crown fire. Hopefully aspens will thrive here in the coming decades, but it looks pretty bad right now, and the trail loops on it are closed for the foreseeable future. We talked with the Squirrel Girl here, and heard the latest Red Squirrel census, which was pretty grim (35 found during the post-fire count, I heard).

The Grant Creek area didn’t look too bad, with only moderate fire damage, as we approached Stop 4: Cunningham Campground, next to the western trailhead of the Cunningham Loop. We talked with some
Forest Service employees briefly, and checked out the the Grant Creek Trailhead before continuing on. The Moonshine Creek area fared well, with fall aspens and ferns adding some color.

The Fort Grant overlook revealed Grant Creek Canyon to have a mosaic burn pattern, with plenty of green forest left intact.

Approaching Columbine through the singed spruce-fir, we turned down Bible Camp Road toward the Deadman-Highline Trailhead. Bible Camp Road had seen mosaic burn, and while there was heavy damage in places, there were some patches of surviving spruce-fir. I knew that much of Deadman had been thoroughly torched, but I had hope that my trail sign might have survived. As we rounded the first corner of Deadman, there was the trail sign I had made in 2010, perfectly undamaged among burned logs. I couldn’t believe it, and it was one of the few sights that day that made me smile. I unbolted my soot-covered creation to bring it home, as Deadman-Highline, my favorite Pinaleno trail, will probably not ever reopen.

The next stop was one Chad and I were both apprehensive over: Columbine Corral/Ash Creek Trailhead. We had heard that Ash Creek and Webb Peak were severely burned and a sea of black sticks. Sadly, that was true. The jewel of the Pinalenos was completely devoid of green, save for some small aspen and raspberry sprouts in places. Heartbreaking. On to the next spot...

Soldier Creek Campground looked great, just like old times.

As we drove toward Chesley Flat across the black skeleton slopes of Webb Peak, we wondered if any of the top was untouched by this mega-fire. Fire damage beyond Chesley Flat was less severe, and finally ceased at the turnoff for Riggs Lake. There is some ground fire evidence on the east side of Riggs, but very minor. We walked around the lake on the Lakeshore Trail, finally able to see a healthy, familiar favorite.

We continued down the last mile plus of the Swift Trail through the unburned forests of old, to the Clark Peak Trailhead, where we started the CP Flat Loop hike. The west end of the Pinalenos was deserted and we enjoyed a great hike through the aspens and mixed conifer woodland.
The rugged cliffs of Grandview Peak above Hell’s Hole looked amazing with a small strip of golden aspens clinging precariously.

Making our way home, I pulled over at Chesley Flat to check out the upper end of the Blair Canyon Trail and the old “spooky woods” area. This area was on the edge of the Webb Peak inferno and sustained heavy but not total damage. Still some survivor trees, including the tumor tree, and the ancient Blair Canyon Trail sign.

We continued back down the mountain, discussing our findings and thoughts on the matter, and made one final stop at the upper Shake Trailhead to see trees caked in red retardant from the fire.

Back on the straightaway at the base of the Pinalenos, Chad headed for home, and I grabbed a sandwich at Mount Graham Market for dinner on the road to home.

A few observations, which are totally my opinion...
Most of the burn area, which includes the majority of the top of the Pinalenos, appeared to me to have about 50% tree mortality. Of that 50%, a large portion of these trees were covered in dead needles with no sign of green (heat scorched trees, rather than burn, maybe?). The most severe burn areas appeared to be Pitchfork Canyon, Grant Hill, Ash Creek, and Webb Peak. The least severe/most green areas appeared to be Snow Flat, the area north of Hospital Flat, and Grant Creek watershed. The top of Graham Ridge between Shannon Campground and the summit of Mount Graham was severely burned, with almost total tree mortality. Severe erosion scarred most of the drainages and creeks on top. I won’t discuss my personal feelings here, other than to say the burn was worse than I had feared. I still love the Pinalenos, and always will, but they sure do look rough right now. I might post a photo set.

Chad, thanks for another great adventure! Much better to see sights like this with a like-minded friend.
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