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Promenade Trail - FHP - 15 members in 152 triplogs have rated this an average 2.5 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Jul 16 2025
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 Fountain Hills,
Sonoran / Lower Sonoran Lasso Loop - FHPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 16 2025
DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,374
Hiking5.72 Miles 1,109 AEG
Hiking5.72 Miles   2 Hrs   25 Mns   2.60 mph
1,109 ft AEG      13 Mns Break
 
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I decided to do what has become my go-to hike in the summertime. I did the loop clockwise.

It was overcast throughout the entire hike, along with a decent breeze most of the way.

I saw a gila monster -- it was the first one that I have seen this year.
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Jun 06 2025
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 Fountain Hills,
Sunrise Peak from Adero Canyon THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jun 06 2025
DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,374
Hiking6.73 Miles 1,375 AEG
Hiking6.73 Miles   3 Hrs   12 Mns   2.46 mph
1,375 ft AEG      28 Mns Break
 
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It has been a while since I have done this hike so I decided to do it today.

The east entrance to the Andrews-Kinsey Trail in the Fountain Hills Preserve has been rerouted, so I went on the reroute today. The reroute lengthens this hike by about 0.3 miles, but it moderates the rate of ascent somewhat on the first part of the hike.
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Apr 17 2025
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 Fountain Hills,
Sonoran / Lower Sonoran Lasso Loop - FHPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 17 2025
DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,374
Hiking6.31 Miles 1,350 AEG
Hiking6.31 Miles   2 Hrs   55 Mns   2.59 mph
1,350 ft AEG      29 Mns Break
 
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I stayed close to home again this morning.

The temps were very nice this morning and it looks like that will be the case for a couple of more days.

I saw a deer and a few hummingbirds this morning.
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Wildflowers Observation Isolated
Ocotillo continues to look nice, but there are no other flowers than that out there
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Apr 13 2025
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 Fountain Hills,
Sonoran / Lower Sonoran Lasso Loop - FHPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 13 2025
DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,374
Hiking6.18 Miles 1,373 AEG
Hiking6.18 Miles   2 Hrs   45 Mns   2.65 mph
1,373 ft AEG      25 Mns Break
 
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I decided to stay close to home today and do a modified version of the loop, which I did CW.

There was cloud cover for most of the hike, which was welcome.

The trail was quiet most of the way, but there were a fair number of hikers out over the last mile or so.
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There were a fair number of blooming ocotillos, along with a few tiny fiddlenecks and poppies.
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Apr 06 2025
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 Fountain Hills,
Sonoran / Lower Sonoran Lasso Loop - FHPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 06 2025
DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,374
Hiking6.12 Miles 1,515 AEG
Hiking6.12 Miles   2 Hrs   46 Mns   2.62 mph
1,515 ft AEG      26 Mns Break
 
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I decided to take advantage of a cool morning and hike close to home today. I did this loop clockwise, which is the way that I have been doing it.

I saw a gopher snake, which is the first snake that I have seen this year.
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Apr 02 2025
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 Arizona
MSP loop, AZ 
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking
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Mar 10 2025
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 Fountain Hills,
Sonoran / Lower Sonoran Lasso Loop - FHPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 10 2025
DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,374
Hiking6.29 Miles 1,250 AEG
Hiking6.29 Miles   2 Hrs   30 Mns   2.68 mph
1,250 ft AEG      9 Mns Break
 
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I decided to do this loop again today, and once again did a variation of the standard route by taking the Mesquite Hollow Trail from the Promenade Trail.

They put a sign up finally for the Mesquite Spur Trail. I am not sure why this trail exists -- it adds an extra loop but only adds 0.1 miles to the hike.

I finally saw the large mesquite tree after which the Mesquite Hollow Trail is named. The tree is at the second junction of the Mesquite Hollow Trail and the Mesquite Spur.
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Mar 06 2025
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 Fountain Hills,
Two City High Points in Maricopa County, AZ 
Two City High Points in Maricopa County, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 06 2025
DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,374
Hiking6.10 Miles 1,773 AEG
Hiking6.10 Miles   3 Hrs   41 Mns   1.80 mph
1,773 ft AEG      18 Mns Break
 
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This triplog is for two separate hikes on this day, with each hike going to the high point of one of Maricopa County's 24 incorporated municipalities:
1) Paradise Valley
2) Fountain Hills

Paradise Valley High Point
(2.77 miles with 912 feet of AEG)
The Paradise Valley High Point is atop Dixie Peak, aka Two Bit Peak. I parked at the 40th Street TH and started the hike from there. I was initially on the LV Yates Trail and then continued on an unnamed trail to the summit. The trail was fairly smooth at first, but then got rocky and bouldery as I ascended.

There were nice views at the summit and I had the summit to myself. There was hardly anyone out there today, and the parking lot had lots of empty spaces.

Fountain Hills High Point
(3.34 miles with 861 feet of AEG)
The high point of Fountain Hills is along a ridgeline that runs from the West View Overlook, aka Peak 3098, up to Peak 3804. The high point is at the boundary line between Fountain Hills and Scottsdale.

I started from the Adero Canyon TH and took the Western Loop Trail up the southside of Peak 3098. Once at the saddle below Peak 3098, I left the trail and followed the ridgeline over to the high point. There is no frustum at at the Scottsdale/Fountain Hills boundary, but there was a small cairn where I expected the boundary to be. I added to the cairn and left a summit register.

While going across the ridgeline I went over a bump that I thought was higher than the boundary line, but I can't be certain of that. In any event, I'd suggest tagging some of the high bumps along the way just to be sure that you get the high point.

On the return trip I took the Western Loop Trail down the northside of Peak 3098 to make a loop out of the hike.
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Feb 28 2025
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 Fountain Hills,
Adero TH Wander - # who knows, AZ 
Adero TH Wander - # who knows, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Feb 28 2025
FLYING_FLIVERTriplogs 293
Hiking5.27 Miles 840 AEG
Hiking5.27 Miles   3 Hrs   44 Mns   2.23 mph
840 ft AEG   1 Hour   22 Mns Break
 
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I have hiked 5 times since I put a hike up on HAZ.
You won't see any of them, as most of the hikes were a bit repetitious.

I had alot of acquaintances from the midwest show up for visits. Some I knew were coming to Arizona, and some just showed up at my doorstep.

All visitors wanted to experience Arizona hiking, so off I went as a tour guide.

I took most of them to Adero Trailhead, and tried to pick trails that they could enjoy. Some visitors are in great shape, and some ….. not-so-much.

After they left, I did this hike - Just for exercise.

I hiked the newly completed Mesquite Trail, and the 'new to me', North Leg Trail.
I had hiked the Mesquite Trail prior to it being completed. On that hike, when the trail abruptly "ended", I just bushwhacked to another trail.

Now, I'm ready to go out on my own adventures.
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Feb 25 2025
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 Fountain Hills,
Sonoran / Lower Sonoran Lasso Loop - FHPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 25 2025
DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,374
Hiking6.10 Miles 1,198 AEG
Hiking6.10 Miles   2 Hrs   32 Mns   2.63 mph
1,198 ft AEG      13 Mns Break
 
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I did this loop clockwise.

I saw 4 deer on the way back; I rarely see any on these trails so it was my lucky day.
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Wildflowers Observation Isolated
There were a some red flowers on a few leafless ocotillo, but that was it for wildflowers.
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Feb 09 2025
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 Fountain Hills,
Sonoran / Lower Sonoran Lasso Loop - FHPPhoenix, AZ
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,374
Hiking7.76 Miles 1,472 AEG
Hiking7.76 Miles   3 Hrs   29 Mns   2.50 mph
1,472 ft AEG      23 Mns Break
 
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This was a variation of the Sonoran-Lower Sonoran Loop. On the way out I did an out-and-back on the North Leg Trail. Once I got to the 4 way junction at the end of the Promenade Trail I went out on the Mesquite Hollow Trail and returned on the Lower Sonoran Trail.
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Jan 25 2025
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 Mesa, AZ
Mesquite Hollow Trail - FHPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 25 2025
DarthStillerTriplogs 856
Hiking9.40 Miles 1,678 AEG
Hiking9.40 Miles   4 Hrs   53 Mns   1.95 mph
1,678 ft AEG      4 Mns Break
 
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Took a trip up to Adero Canyon to check out the new trail that was built in the FH Preserve. I started at 6:15am in the dark and hiked the first mile+ on the Promenade Trail in the dark. It was still dark when I got to the Mesquite Hollow Trail, so I decided to keep going and start on the Sonoran Trail. Both of these trails junction the end of the Promenade Trail just a few feet apart.

I hiked the Sonoran Trail all the way to the Dixie Mine Trail, then turned around. On the way back, I hiked an unofficial spur trail that heads up one of the many ridges to the top of the McDowells. It ended once it gets up on the ridge, so I made my way back down to the Sonoran Trail.

On the way back I took some of the Lower Sonoran Trail to its connector and then back up to the Sonoran Trail then hiked back on the Mesquite Hollow Trail to the Promenade. Along the Mesquite Hollow Trail I saw a trail building crew that were up higher building another trail. I never saw where the junction to that trail is with the existing trails. I also saw 3 mule deer along this trail. There is a small loop spur along this trail that adds about a quarter mile, which I also hiked. Interestingly, I saw only one mesquite tree along this trail, and it was dead. When I finished the Mesquite Hollow Trail at the Promenade Trail, the cars of the trail building crew were parked at the end of the Promenade.

Once I got back towards the Adero Trailhead, I hiked out a bit on the Andrews-Kinsey Trail and back to add some mileage. The lot was mostly full when I got back, but not packed. Lots of cars parked on Eagle Ridge Drive for those who didn't want to wait. Lots of people milling around, including the trail building crew who had also finished their day.
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Jan 19 2025
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 Fountain Hills,
Thompson Peak from Adero Canyon THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 19 2025
DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,374
Hiking14.96 Miles 3,365 AEG
Hiking14.96 Miles   7 Hrs   4 Mns   2.37 mph
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I hiked up to Thompson Peak from Adero Canyon today.

It was a tad cold at the early morning start, but warmed up once the sun came up.

There weren't many people out at this part of the preserve, which was nice.
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 Fountain Hills,
Sonoran / Lower Sonoran Lasso Loop - FHPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking7.83 Miles 1,709 AEG
Hiking7.83 Miles   3 Hrs   36 Mns   2.58 mph
1,709 ft AEG      34 Mns Break
 
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I did a variation of this loop by 1) going out-and-on the North Leg Trail on the outbound portion of the hike, and 2) taking the Mesquite Hollow Trail from the Sonoran Trail back to the Promenade Trail on the inbound portion of the hike.

It was a nice day out there -- sunny, breezy, and a bit cool. I had a windbreaker on for a while -- it would get cool when the wind gusts picked up and get warm when the gusts subsided.
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 Fountain Hills,
Adero Meander, AZ 
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FLYING_FLIVERTriplogs 293
Hiking5.40 Miles 1,002 AEG
Hiking5.40 Miles   3 Hrs   38 Mns   2.09 mph
1,002 ft AEG   1 Hour   3 Mns Break
 
1st trip
The night before my actual planned hike, my planned area had rain. No big deal except for the dirt roads I would have to use. I had no recent info on those dirt road's conditions, so I put the hike on hold for awhile, and went to Adero TH in Fountain Hills to get some hike time in.

I hiked the Ridgeline Trail, the Lower Ridgeline Trail and parts of a few more.
Temps were cool and the wind was gusting most of the time.

The trails from Adero TH are excellent trails, and there's a nice mix of trail connections to give a hiker many choices.
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 Goodyear, AZ
Adero Canyon, AZ 
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NightstalkerTriplogs 1,740
Hiking4.90 Miles 1,455 AEG
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Harem picked Adero Canyon for today's hike, which is find by me! Got to the trailhead sometime past 8am, parking lot was 60-70% full. The Trailblazers were there prepping to start some trail maintenance on the new Mesquite Hollow trail. We started out trek on Promenade, Lower Sonoran, Sonoran, and back over the hill on Western Loop. Great day to be out on the trails with Carey, Christina, and Dan.
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Looping in Fountain Hills, AZ 
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,374
Hiking6.68 Miles 1,678 AEG
Hiking6.68 Miles   3 Hrs   26 Mns   2.18 mph
1,678 ft AEG      22 Mns Break
 
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I had planned to go up to Mount Ord today but my heel was hurting when I got up this morning so I decided to hike close to home instead.

From the TH, I first went up to Peak 3098, aka the West View Overlook. I then went out on the Promenade Trail with the intention of doing the Sonoran-Lower Sonoran Loop. When I got to the junction I was pleasantly surprised to see the new trail in the FHP is open -- called the Mesquite Hollow Trail.

This trail more-or-less parallels the Sonoran Trail for 1.5 miles, at which point it ends at the Sonoran Trail. The new trail has some moderate elevation gain, but the tread is super -- smooth dirt with hardly any rock in it. I think that I will be hiking on this trail some more. The trail has a nice sounding name, but I did not see even one mesquite tree. Methinks that it should be called the Palo Verde Hollow Trail instead!

The new trail will facilitate doing some loop hikes in the FHP. Eventually I think that another trail will be built that will connect the Mesquite Hollow Trail with the Quartz Trail in the Scottsdale Preserve. I look forward to that because it will make possible some longer loop hikes on the trail system.
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 Fountain Hills,
Sonoran / Lower Sonoran Lasso Loop - FHPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 19 2024
DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,374
Hiking6.49 Miles 1,652 AEG
Hiking6.49 Miles   3 Hrs   2 Mns   2.45 mph
1,652 ft AEG      23 Mns Break
 
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I decided to stay close to home this morning and do this hike.

Before going on the Sonoran-Lower Sonoran Loop I first went up to the summit of Peak 3097, aka the West View Overlook.

For a change did the loop clockwise, and I think that I like it better in this direction.

I only saw 2 other people out on the trails, and that was when I was almost back to the TH.
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Sonoran / Lower Sonoran Lasso Loop - FHPPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking7.45 Miles 1,578 AEG
Hiking7.45 Miles   3 Hrs   25 Mns   2.53 mph
1,578 ft AEG      28 Mns Break
 
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I decided to get some morning miles in today by doing this hike. As usual, I did the loop CCW. On the way out I added in an out-and-back on the North Leg Trail, aka the trail to nowhere, to get some extra distance and elevation gain.

It was cool at the start of the hike, but it warmed up once the sun came up.
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Sonoran / Lower Sonoran Lasso Loop - FHPPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking6.53 Miles 1,639 AEG
Hiking6.53 Miles   3 Hrs   11 Mns   2.39 mph
1,639 ft AEG      27 Mns Break
 
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Now that the temps have finally gotten cooler I decided to stay close to home this morning and do this hike. I did the loop CCW, and on the way back I added in a loop on the western loop trail and went up and over Peak 3098, aka the West View Overlook. This makes an odd looking figure-8 configuration.

This is the second hike in a row that Route Scout has performed as it should, and hopefully that trend will continue. There are no recordings going haywire and no audio messages saying "zoom zoom" or "speedy split". Import is working fine and map rotation continues to work flawlessly. The only minor issue that has popped up the last couple of hikes is that audio doesn't work when starting a hike; to fix it I have to force a stop and then restart RS. After doing that audio works as it should.
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