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Grant Creek Trail #305 - 14 members in 40 triplogs have rated this an average 4.3 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Apr 24 2024
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Mount Graham 10,720Tucson, AZ
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Drew this one up years ago and finally took a crack at it. It's a very aesthetically pleasing route on paper. I parked around 5460ft on FR157, it's high-clearance w/one water crossing through Grant Creek - not bad overall. Sure beats going near the prison.

The trail from the trailhead to the base of the switchbacks is pretty evident. It has that Lord of the Rings vibe and tons of shade. There are three creek crossings and steps were few and far between on 1 and 3. The second uses a narrow log - it's pretty bomber but I could still see myself going into the drink. I tossed rocks into the water at the last one to get a viable way across. The current effortlessly washed away my first attempts. The trail is a mess shortly after that - it turns into a roller coaster on the slippery slope, while simultaneously negotiating downed trees. Very nice to have trekking poles!

So begins section two, the switchbacks, which are pretty pumpkin'd! Lots of deadfall, overgrowth, and thorns consistently until you get within 1-2 miles of Swift Trail/Cunningham Campground. I considered turning around halfway up but couldn't bring myself to do it. The views of the canyon and the valley below are excellent motivation, even caught a glimpse of what I believe is Moonshine Falls high up on the cliffs. The Pinalenos are exceptional.

The final section is the off-trail ridgeline (10,027) from Swift Trail to FR669, and the last push to Graham. I foolishly took part of Cunningham Loop on the way up and hit snow which hindered progress, so I veered back up the slope to a saddle. From there, I followed the crest of the ridge as planned. The first half of the ridge has been cleaned up and put into slash piles, making it the easiest part of the whole day. There are more downed trees and brush around and above Point 10027, but nothing bad - honestly a lot easier than I was expecting. I built a cairn (and later toppled it) at FR669 and continued east across the snowy roadbed.

I went cross-country rather than sticking to the roads the whole way. Post-holing was 50/50 depending on how many downed trees were underneath. Snow baskets on my poles helped distribute some of the weight. Without a doubt, the unsung heroes of the day are my gaiters.

Mount Graham is okay as expected (I walked over what appeared to be the highpoint), but the real-deal views are further north at a small ridge overlooking the Gila Valley, nearly 8,000ft below - Arizona's San Jacinto. I didn't stay long as I had reached my turnaround time and still had a long descent ahead of me. Saw a couple deer back on the ridge, and one down low on the switchbacks. Descending Grant Creek Trail didn't feel nearly as hellish, must've been riding the high of the completed mission. Made it back to the car by 6pm and was treated to an absolutely insane sunset on the drive out - best way to wrap up a solid day.
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Just another day up high to stroll through the forest.
Parked at Cunningham Campground.
Cunningham Loop - Hiked the upper portion on the recently cleared trail. Turned around where the cleared trail turned into the uncleared messy trail.
Swift Trail - Used the road to get down to Moonshine.
Moonshine Creek - Out to the overlooks then back to where the Grant Creek Trail starts.
Grant Creek Trail - Out and back to the big overlook.
Wildlife - 1 overrated Mt Graham Red Squirrel, 1 Abert's squirrel, 5 white tails, a couple hawks, 1 turkey vulture and 1 ground turkey at the end.
Nice clear blue sky day with a breeze ... and a very low and loud military jet hello.
Always a good time on Graham with my buddy!
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Grant Creek Trail #305Tucson, AZ
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Wouldn’t recommend Google for trailhead directions as it took us to several locked gates, but figured it out by going back to the FS road. Waterfall was flowing well and temps were pretty good, just a little warm on the way out. Despite contrary belief, I do, in fact, have a camera and figured out how to upload one photo 🤣🤣
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Goudy Grant Loop, AZ 
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Great solid hike that Chumley put together and was the main hike of the weekend. As a bonus we were able to start from the camp area heading down Goudy Ridge. On the top there was a small cave that we checked out and then the long descent down the ridge. Great views on Goudy Ridge and decent trail except for the thick grass in some sections.

Eventually it drops off the ridge and into Grant Creek where we linked up with that trail. Took a short break at the junction and enjoyed some good strong flow in Grant Creek. Tons of water running presumably due to good monsoon season rains. After lunch we hiked up the trail/road to the next objective Grant Creek Falls.

The falls trail forks off the main trail about a mile to base of Grant Creek Falls. Very impressive falls and with all the rain I'm assuming it was well above average flow. Took another break before hiking back to the main trail.

Continuing up Grant Creek the trail eventually leaves the drainage and switchbacks up the ridge. Despite some fire damage the switchbacks were well maintained and easy to follow. That made the 2000 foot climb much easier than it could have been. It didn't take long before we reached the ridgeline and the eventual trailhead and road.

Unfortunately our vehicle was 3 miles back at camp but Chumley used his social skills and managed to hitch a ridge back to camp. John and I didn't have to wait long before Chumley showed up. Great loop hike!
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With a weekend full of options, this was my first choice as I had not previously been on either the Goudy Ridge or Grant Creek trails. A couple of recent reports on Goudy Ridge reflected post-fire trail work had been complete. On the other hand, the report of the death of Grant Creek 305 has been greatly exaggerated. In reality, it is as nice as Goudy Ridge and probably rehabbed by the same crew that did Goudy in mid-2021 sometime. In any case, both trails have been rehabbed post fire and are in fine shape for the limited use each probably sees.

One hiccup we had on the loop came in the lower sections of Goudy 310 where summer monsoon rains have spurred grass that has grown to about knee high. We missed one switchback in the 6800-6400 stretch but it took about 20 seconds to realize it and get back on the nicely cut tread. Grass persisted all the way to the creek, but even a marginally attentive hiker should not get off track.

Grant was flowing nicely and we followed the old road upstream. Post-fire flood damage is evident and looks like the trail has been relocated above a couple of eroded banks. At the arrow-signed fork (which mysteriously points only one way) we headed up to check out the falls which were flowing nicely. For hikers who start at the bottom, this appears to be the primary destination and the trail is nicely maintained and easy to follow. After a break at the falls we headed back to the fork and continued upstream trying to avoid as much poison ivy as possible. It's not too bad, but I gave up trying to avoid it and resigned myself to a thorough scrubbing when we got back to camp.

We took a final break where the trail crosses Post Creek just before it begins the solid climb back up to Cunningham. The fire burned through here but there was still plenty of unburned tree cover and well-cleared trail. Every switchback has a nice rock border built so even if aggressive growth occurs in the next few years, the tread should be easy to spot. As it is currently, it's just a solid 2000 foot climb in 3 miles that we managed to knock off in about 90 minutes.

The second hiccup of the day occured at the very top of the trail where it cuts through a severely burned matchstick zone. Here the tread is fully lost to grass and deadfall that doesn't appear to have been cut. This lasts for less than a quarter mile from the 8800 foot contour up about 100 feet, but it's easy enough to just make your way to the ridge and find the route again.

From here I took off ahead of the others, crossed Moonshine Creek and climbed up to the road. Not excited about the 3 mile road walk back to camp, I flashed some calves to flag down the first truck I saw, and Cletus'd my way into the bed for an easy ride back to camp where I promptly hopped in my truck and headed back to pick up John and Karl.

This was a great loop with awesome scenery, caves, waterfalls, wildflowers, perfect weather, clouds, breezes, distant views, etc. And definitely a solid workout. I'm glad that the fire didn't affect this drainage more severely. It's a winner.

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Grant Creek Trail #305Tucson, AZ
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I believe half of town was on top of that mountain today.
Peace and solitude was gonna be a challenge.
Started from the noisy Cunningham CG and first hiked down Grant Creek 305.
Just a mile or so down to the big overlook, had forgotten just how good this upper trail was!
Would have loved to hiked it all the way down, but that would require a shuttle for me.
I then backtracked and hiked the Moonshine Trail down to it's big overlook.
Swift Trail back to Cunningham.
Could hear people and vehicles pretty much the whole trip, but that's what I get for going up on a summer Saturday. Still very enjoyable trails with big views!
Also saw 2 deer and a big time wildflower show.
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FR 157 remains in excellent shape for high clearance and prossibly AWD/4WD vehicles. Get it before a thunderstorm does!

The plan to was hike Grant Creek Trail #305 to the top and the Swift trail and return same day, camping where I parked this time and when I hiked the Goudy Ridge Trail 2 weeks ago. Instead, I had a more relaxed trip to Grant Creek Falls, and camped afterward. It was pretty enjoyable, with a lot of cicadas in the day and frogs in the evening and into the night. It might be worth camping up here just to listen to calling frogs all night, if you're into that.

Trail #305 is basically a road that can be driven to about the trailhead for the Goudy Ridge Trail #310. After that point it more or less becomes a far more serious 4WD road until a creek crossing that became a deep wash out after the Frye Fire. After that point the road becomes less traveled as it is foot traffic only. The further you hike up, the less foot traffic it sees, and the more the leaves have covered the old road bed.

Eventually, you'll begin to encounter pink survey tape tied to trees and branches. Following this takes you to a junction where a small forest service sign with an arrow on it points to the right and if you follow this right fork you will cross Grant Creek and start to hike up some recently worked trail. This however, will not take you to the Swift Trail, and instead goes to Grant Creek Falls. This section of trail is pretty well marked with pink tape to make up for the low utilization, but it will get you to the falls.

Trail #305 forks left at the junction, but there is currently no marking telling you to head left. It looked to me as though it might have been a spur to a campground for backpackers. After reaching the falls and failing to locate the continuing trail to ascend the slope, I hiked slowly back to the junction to look for where I may have missed #305 leaving from the path I took to the falls.

After not finding one, I took the left fork and continued up parallel to what becomes Post Creek. I saw more red and pink tape in the trees and followed a very crude trail. I doubt it was more than a few hundred feet before this path became nothing more than flagging leading the way. Eventually, the path I was following found me in a mud bog with bear tracks and no signs of humans having come through in a very long time. Years, maybe, unless someone with a GPS had passed by tying up flagging for trail reconstruction. Not knowing if I was on a hunter's track, or trail #305, or what, I turned back, and make a second visit to the falls to relax and enjoy those. They were actually really nice to hang out under and enjoy the falling water and cicadas. Hot in that canyon, but nice. No one comes to them, it seems, so that was really nice.

At this time, it does not seem like Grant Creek Trail is passable from bottom to top. Maybe going down is possible, but up doesn't seem so. This is very similar to the condition of the Grant Hill Loop, which ended up becoming an unhikable thicket last summer. It is entirely possible that 50 feet from my turn around the trail opened up and was exceptional, but I doubt it, very much.

Instead of hiking to the Swift Trail, I enjoyed lower Grant Creek. Camping down low was pleasant and relaxing. The frogs are really loud!

In the next few months I would like to start off the Swift Trail and hike down to either Post Creek or as far as I can, and back up. It looks to be about 6.6 miles and close to 2100', if I can make the canyon bottom and creek. This area is slowly returning to it's primitive state, so I will not be surprised if I can only get 1 to 2 miles down slope. At least it's good for the bears!
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P-Bar Lake Trail #326Alpine, AZ
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Did this as a backpack a couple years ago and wanted my wife to see the area. After getting her to commit to a long day hike, off we went. We had a beautiful day for the hike - sunny a little warm. My wife and I agreed afterwards that this is a "B" hike. From P-bar down to the split of 305 and 306, it is really overgrown but there are some nice vistas ...so wear pants or take some shears. From the split, we went straight to the cabin. The cabin is not all that fascinating, but worth doing. The hike along the creek was one of the nicer highlights. Overall a great backpack or long day hike if you are in the area.
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My final trip up to the top of Graham to survey the damage left from the Frye Fire before the November 15th winter closure. I met up with Preston and together we headed up the mountain as we have done so many times before. Plan was to survey as many sites as we could and also get in a hike at the end of the Swift Trail. We drove the entire road to it's end and this is what we saw & know .....

We first stopped on the way up for a quick trek up "secret canyon" for some fall colors, looked good and is only gonna get better. A return trip up will be made soon.
Second stop up was made at Ladybug Saddle to show Preston where & how I dislocated my shoulder last week, I was in need of some sympathy.
Then around to the backside/top and into the burn -

Snow Flat - Road down to the CG hit with med intensity burn, campground unaffected and beautiful.
Treasure Park CG - Road down med burn, meadow and CG mostly unaffected and beautiful, the "back" CG hit hard and now gated with "forest closed" sign.
Cunningham CG - Intact, but high burn all around CG. The trail-head for Grant Creek & Moonshine has "closed forest" sign. We could see golden aspens down in Moonshine and a later overlook view showed that lower Grant Creek from Ft Grant TH was unaffected, the upper trail has burned. At Cunningham we talked with a high up Forest Service employee who gave up permission to hike a bit into Ash Creek for a look a little further up the road.
Soldier Creek CG - One of my favorites and I was very happy to see an intact CG with minimal burn around it. The Grant Goudy Ridge (and Ice Caves) TH is open with the standard "caution burn area" sign.
Deadman-Highline Trail - The feel good story of the day! We drove down Bible Camp road to see if the trail-head sign that Preston made and posted back in 2010 made it through the fire. We hiked a bit up the trail through a hard hit area to find burn all-around the perfectly intact sign! It damn near brought a manly tear to my eye to see Preston's joy that it made it through -
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Columbine Corrals CG - From the happiest part of the day to the saddest. We parked at Columbine visitor center and hiked in across the road to the corrals. This whole area is closed including Webb Peak & Ash Creek due to high intensity burn. As stated earlier we had permission to hike a bit in. We took the trail just to where the switchbacks start down and that's about as far as you can go. Of all my trips up since the re-opening, this one punched me in the chest the hardest. I just could not believe I was looking down Ash Creek Canyon ..... black sticks as far as I could see down and on both sides of the canyon. We were told by Forest Service earlier at Cunningham that a decision was made to close and not work on Ash Creek & Frye Mesa Trail (where the fire started) for at least the next 3 years. Webb Peak is also black sticks, but was told that a loop may be re-opened next year.
Riggs Flat Lake - After Ash Creek we continued down the road through much more burn until finally reaching Riggs where the west end of the fire came to an end. We drove down to the lake that does have some minimal burn down, then through the campgrounds & ended with a nice hike around the lake on the Lakeshore Trail. Riggs Lake area for the most part was unaffected by the fire. Merrill Peak was hit on top and I'm sure the backside was too. There is a "burn" sign posted for the Jesus Babcock Trail behind the campground.
CP Flat - Finally on to the end of the road to hike CP Flat. A very needed break from fire damage with an autumn walk through Letty's Grove. I knew we were late for the golden aspen leaves up high, but just as beautiful hiking on the golden leaf road!
Blair Canyon - On the drive back out we stopped at Chesley Flat to see how Blair Canyon fared and as expected ..... not well. High burn and I'm sure Chesley Flat to Webb Peak looks the same.
Quick last stop at the Shake Trail to show Preston the red slurry covered trees at the start of the trail, this entire trail survived and is one of the very few left unaffected.

Our trip ended on the straightaway where Preston dropped me off at my truck, we said our good-bye's & I drove home still processing what I saw on top.

I have now seen the entire top of Graham and have a good understanding to the condition of the majority of the forest & trails. As stated in other logs - I am still shook, bitter & angry over this fire. The damage is much worse then I ever expected. There is still a lot of green up there and I have found a few places that still holds some un-burned beauty that will keep me looking for more. I have spent my entire life going up that mountain and this will take many years to come to peace with ..... I just hope someday I will get there.
I understand that most don't want to read about others personal hardships as I honestly don't like reading them myself. What has happened has happened and I cannot change it only move on - This will be my last log about the Frye Fire of 2017!

To close I just want to thank Preston for taking me up the mountain to view the destruction with me. Seeing it with a good friend made it more bearable. There will be many more great trips up & around Ole' Graham my friend!!!
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Met up with Chad bright and early after another all-nighter working at the telescope on Mount Graham, and we started up the Swift Trail. The focus of the day was to tour the Pinalenos and see first hand the effects of the Frye Fire of June 2017. Our first stop of the day was at a small canyon that I had passed so many times without ever stopping to explore it. This little hidden gem was loaded with changing maples and flowing water.

As we passed the top end of the Shake Trail, we entered into the main burn area of the Frye Fire. Pitchfork Canyon looked like it had been skewered by the Devil’s flaming pitchfork. A mountain side of black sticks where a lush stand of mature firs had once provided dense shade. The Arrow Tree still stood.

Stop 2 was at Snow Flat. Most of this area had fared well, with the exception being the back road to Treasure Park (Treasure Park via Snow Flat hike is charcoal city). Hospital Flat had some damage but is still beautiful, I think.

Stop 3 was Grant Hill Trailhead. Grant Hill was almost entirely consumed in a crown fire. Hopefully aspens will thrive here in the coming decades, but it looks pretty bad right now, and the trail loops on it are closed for the foreseeable future. We talked with the Squirrel Girl here, and heard the latest Red Squirrel census, which was pretty grim (35 found during the post-fire count, I heard).

The Grant Creek area didn’t look too bad, with only moderate fire damage, as we approached Stop 4: Cunningham Campground, next to the western trailhead of the Cunningham Loop. We talked with some
Forest Service employees briefly, and checked out the the Grant Creek Trailhead before continuing on. The Moonshine Creek area fared well, with fall aspens and ferns adding some color.

The Fort Grant overlook revealed Grant Creek Canyon to have a mosaic burn pattern, with plenty of green forest left intact.

Approaching Columbine through the singed spruce-fir, we turned down Bible Camp Road toward the Deadman-Highline Trailhead. Bible Camp Road had seen mosaic burn, and while there was heavy damage in places, there were some patches of surviving spruce-fir. I knew that much of Deadman had been thoroughly torched, but I had hope that my trail sign might have survived. As we rounded the first corner of Deadman, there was the trail sign I had made in 2010, perfectly undamaged among burned logs. I couldn’t believe it, and it was one of the few sights that day that made me smile. I unbolted my soot-covered creation to bring it home, as Deadman-Highline, my favorite Pinaleno trail, will probably not ever reopen.

The next stop was one Chad and I were both apprehensive over: Columbine Corral/Ash Creek Trailhead. We had heard that Ash Creek and Webb Peak were severely burned and a sea of black sticks. Sadly, that was true. The jewel of the Pinalenos was completely devoid of green, save for some small aspen and raspberry sprouts in places. Heartbreaking. On to the next spot...

Soldier Creek Campground looked great, just like old times.

As we drove toward Chesley Flat across the black skeleton slopes of Webb Peak, we wondered if any of the top was untouched by this mega-fire. Fire damage beyond Chesley Flat was less severe, and finally ceased at the turnoff for Riggs Lake. There is some ground fire evidence on the east side of Riggs, but very minor. We walked around the lake on the Lakeshore Trail, finally able to see a healthy, familiar favorite.

We continued down the last mile plus of the Swift Trail through the unburned forests of old, to the Clark Peak Trailhead, where we started the CP Flat Loop hike. The west end of the Pinalenos was deserted and we enjoyed a great hike through the aspens and mixed conifer woodland.
The rugged cliffs of Grandview Peak above Hell’s Hole looked amazing with a small strip of golden aspens clinging precariously.

Making our way home, I pulled over at Chesley Flat to check out the upper end of the Blair Canyon Trail and the old “spooky woods” area. This area was on the edge of the Webb Peak inferno and sustained heavy but not total damage. Still some survivor trees, including the tumor tree, and the ancient Blair Canyon Trail sign.

We continued back down the mountain, discussing our findings and thoughts on the matter, and made one final stop at the upper Shake Trailhead to see trees caked in red retardant from the fire.

Back on the straightaway at the base of the Pinalenos, Chad headed for home, and I grabbed a sandwich at Mount Graham Market for dinner on the road to home.

A few observations, which are totally my opinion...
Most of the burn area, which includes the majority of the top of the Pinalenos, appeared to me to have about 50% tree mortality. Of that 50%, a large portion of these trees were covered in dead needles with no sign of green (heat scorched trees, rather than burn, maybe?). The most severe burn areas appeared to be Pitchfork Canyon, Grant Hill, Ash Creek, and Webb Peak. The least severe/most green areas appeared to be Snow Flat, the area north of Hospital Flat, and Grant Creek watershed. The top of Graham Ridge between Shannon Campground and the summit of Mount Graham was severely burned, with almost total tree mortality. Severe erosion scarred most of the drainages and creeks on top. I won’t discuss my personal feelings here, other than to say the burn was worse than I had feared. I still love the Pinalenos, and always will, but they sure do look rough right now. I might post a photo set.

Chad, thanks for another great adventure! Much better to see sights like this with a like-minded friend.
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Met Chad on Saturday morning after another all-nighter at the Mount Graham telescope, and we soon left Safford, bound for Fort Grant. Chad promised an incredible waterfall, and I had no doubt that it would be. The first creek crossing past Fort Grant was washed out, so we parked, and set off on foot under a strong springtime sun. I eagerly hobbled along on a sprained ankle and hiking pole crutches, enjoying the icy snow melt against my ankle during the frequent creek crossings. Arriving at the Post Creek/Grant Creek fork, waded across and began following a lesser-traveled trail up Grant Creek canyon. Eventually, a cliff began to peer out above the pines in front of us. As we reached the base of the escarpment, we beheld the roaring whitewater, sliding out of a cleft in the bedrock, and cascading into a pool far below. It was an amazing sight. Mist from the falls floated through the air, creating rainbows and chilling the flesh. A family that had arrived before us began hiking down canyon, and we soon had the area to ourselves. Following numerous photos, ooh-ing and awe-ing, and a rest break, we began the return trek. Back in the main fork of Grant Creek Canyon, we turned to follow Post Creek upstream for a bit, checking out the pools. The afternoon had grown late, and my ankle had long been begging for rest by the time we reached the truck. The falls were definitely worth the trek! Back in Safford, we went our separate ways, and I made my usual visit to El Charro for Mexican food. Spent the night in the desert among the Pinaleno foothills at my usual spot, and then headed for Superior for the third adventure of the weekend: Silver King ghost town tour. Another great adventure with a great friend. Thanks Chad! :)
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My 2nd trip up to Grant Falls after seeing them for the 1st time 2 weeks ago.
I HAD to go back, Preston was in town and it was mandatory that he saw this gem before the great snow melt flow over disappears soon. Preston arrived meeting me at Roper Lake and on a swollen gimpy ankle :o :(
We took off to and through Fort Grant then onto FR 157 arriving at the first creek crossing that was flowing heavy. Decided against the crossing, parked and started our hike from there.

First mile was warm open country :next: we then entered the shaded scenic Grant Creek forest :next: 3 icy cold creek crossings :next: hung a right up Grant Creek Canyon :next: .75 miles up and 1 more creek cross and we were at the base of the falls ..... I remember Preston saying Wow, I did too!
We spent an hour at the falls getting pics, snacking, resting and just taking it all in before returning back the way we came.

The falls again were Awesome, but I was just as impressed with Preston on this day completing that hike on his bad ankle!
Preston is a tough :pk: and a hell of a lot of fun to adventure with -
Thank You my friend!
Great Trip!
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My first visit up to Grant Falls!
Grant Creek Trail :next: Grant Creek Canyon :next: Grant Falls.
We nailed this one, Grant/Post creek was flowing as strong as I have ever seen it making for both a good thing and bad. The good was big water flow, big sounds & great waterfalls along the entire trail up. The bad was the 3 mandatory creek crossings to get to the falls. The flow of the first crossing convinced me it would just be better to not mess around with shoe & sock removals and just plow through. My partners chose to skip this idea and backtrack to another area to hike, I understood ..... cold wet feet hiking sucks!
So solo I pressed on with soaked shoes, 2 more crossings and up Grant Creek Canyon. I then made the mile climb up to the big falls cold, wet and now in light falling snow ..... and it was worth it, the falls were Awesome!
Back down at Grant Creek, I spent a much needed 1/2 hour refueling and thawing out my piggies over a quick fire.
Reunited with my partners down below and together we hiked back out to the FJ.
Grant Creek never disappoints and I now have a new favorite Graham waterfall!
Thank You Dave & Kathy :yr:

Note - FR 157 in has become a challenge to drive. Not quite 4x4 yet, but it requires very high clearance with patience.

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We had a glorious day hiking. Sixteen members of the Gila Valley Hiking Club made it into the falls. We started at the lower trailhead near Ft. Grant State Prison. We made it to the first crossing of Grant Creek where the road became pretty much impassable by vehicles. Found a couple of spots to park cars and headed down the old road on foot. The hills were covered in knee high grass, and it was great to see them dressed in green.

There was plenty of water, but it was much lower than a year ago. Water crossings were much easier and fewer. Lots of photos were taken along the way. We enjoyed lunch at the end of the road in the large clearing and campsite just past the second stone building. There was some confusion among the faster hikers as to where to cross the creek and start up to the falls. We remedied this by placing two directional signs at the end of the old road. One points towards the camp site, and the second points down the foot trail toward the stream. Once you cross the stream you find the trail behind the stone cistern/sand trap.

The final three quarters of a mile to the falls was an easy jaunt, especially because of the new steal ladder and cat walk over the large boulder just below the falls. The adventure is gone, but it is so much safer than the old step ladder propped against the boulder. Our thanks to the USFS and volunteers who carried in materials and constructed such a great access.

The falls were stunning as always. We arrived at the perfect time to find rainbows settling in at the base of the falls. It was magical. We lingered at the falls and cooled our feet in the pool for about an hour. Lots of photos were taken by everyone. We just didn't want to leave.
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My annual summer hike up Grant Creek.
This was Addie's first time up.
Very nice & calm Gila Monster encounter on the drive in.
Grant Creek & Post Creek were flowing above average, nailed it on this visit. :y:
Wonderful waterfalls flowing down the canyon.
Very good flower show with an equally good fungus showing.
Thick foliage throughout with many nice "jungle" sections.
Threatening storm cells derailed our plan to hike to the top, but that was ok,
I got my fill from the lower canyon.
See ya next year Grant Creek, your beautiful ..... please don't ever change!
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Grant Creek Goudy Ridge Loop, AZ 
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Choices, choices, choices! Our plan for a mid week hike included the following options:

1. Cactus to clouds in Palm Springs
2. Shiva Temple at the Grand Canyon North Rim with Claude Birdseye added on
3. Grant Creek, Ash Creek, Goudy Ridge Loop in the Pinaleno Mountains

A bridge washout between here and California and a 14 hour round trip drive to the Grand Canyon north rim had us heading towards Fort Grant.

I have never done Grant Creek nor the Goudy Ridge Trails so this was a real treat. Heading up Grant Creek Trail was the best part of this hike for me. Super lush and water flowing next to the trail the whole way up.

Threats of rain and dark skies above had us questioning if the Ash Creek add on was a good idea? I said let's flip on it however neither of us had a coin. My American Express Card with it's head on the front stood in for George and the toss came up tails. This meant bypass Ash Creek this time. Both of us have been there prior so that made this pill a little easier to swallow.

The trek down the Goudy Trail is enjoyable and views open up along the way. Fort Grant off in the distance gets closer and closer as you descend. Along our way down the skies started to clear up and we only received a small sprinkle just prior to the finish line.

After the hike we headed south on Fort Grant Road to Willcox for a last meal at good ol' Salsa Fiesta. They are closing for good in three days after a run of over 17 years. I wish Jennifer and the Salsa Fiesta team much success in their future endeavors.
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jj said something to the effect last week, "you always wear that white high school shirt". I glanced over and mentioned, "you always wear that same soccer shirt with the seventies style stripes".

By chance? Both in bright new happy shirts we headed to the Grant Creek trailhead. Passing through Fort Grant ( prison, if you are not familiar ) we missed a turn. Spotted a guy that appeared eager to help, so we asked for directions. I think Mr Personality played a guard in Cool Hand Luke. His directions were spot on questionable. With a 50/50 chance we took the wrong option and drove by him a second time... with twice the pride.

10% chance of rain jumped to 50% unexpectedly overnight. Everything around us came up 70% so we stuck to the plan. From a makeshift parking space near the #310, we headed up towards #305, which is among my all time favorites. Not only a great trail, a trail I've shared with great friends over the years. Clear and present mosquitos annoyed a bit but never drew first blood.

jj went down in history transferring a track between two fenix watches out of a controlled lab environment via bluetooth. It only took 40 minutes and five or six tries...lol

#305 has not changed over the eight years I've hiked it a few times. A good trail with very minor brush nuisance along the way and easy to follow. Per usual we used Preston's short cut across Moonshine Creek, which is a tiny off trail segment to save a little road walk. We were soaked in sweat by the time we reached the Swift Hwy ( actually, more like thirty minutes into the hike ). The stroll along the tree lined hwy at 70 degrees was relaxing therapy. It was cool to see a couple families checking out the Post Creek waterfalls & Soldier Campgrounds.

Storms looked mean and approaching quick. jj flipped an amex card to decide on cutting Ash Creek waterfall overlook out of our loop. My hands were getting cold so I was glad it landed on "forget it" tails.

#310 offers great views. It didn't seem as overgrown as memory served. Just a little grassy in areas. No screams in the shower and a quick shin check reveals no abuse. Next time I think it would be ideal to ascend this and enjoy the pine stroll down #305.

Carried 4 quarts, consumed 1.5. Shockingly still a bit frozen 17 hours after packing in the morning too.
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I don't know why it took me over a year to get back to Mount Graham because I really like this area. I did a Grant Creek Goudy Ridge loop today with side trips down Moonshine Creek and up Webb Peak.

I was passed going up Grant Creek Trail by three trail runners :o A good portion of Moonshine is torn up from a tree trimming project, however, I was able to get to the falls area and found it to be a nice little side trip. I saw a few cars during the road walk from Grant to Goudy, but no other hikers or runners the rest of the day. With Graham being illegal I settled for Webb. It was nice to hit 10,000 feet after starting the day at 5400. I considered "Chestley" Flats on my way down from Webb, but had to keep Cup and mind and just decided to head for the Xterra.

The upper sections of Goudy Ridge Trail are nice, with the gigantic pines and old forest feel, but I think the trail loses its redeeming qualities the lower you go. It is a relentless downhill and the trail is in disrepair in spots, however, it gets you down the mountain pretty quick, with some pretty good views.

Another great trip to Graham. I hope to make it back soon; its a great area with several more trails I want to hike. I just wish it was not so far away.
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Afternoon trip with Lauren up one of my Pinaleno favorites.
Hiking, waterfall sitting, photography & enjoyable conversation as we casualty made our way up the beautiful green canyon turning around at the start of the switchbacks.
The summer peak is just about over on this side of the mountain, leaves are starting to turn, but there were still many very green & lush "jungle" sections to ah over.
Twas a very nice hike all around except for a slightly uncomfortable few minutes .....

We off-trailed down to view a waterfall and on the return climb back up to the trail, I looked up to see a man standing & facing me on the upper trail holding a handgun. I said "what's up guy" to which he said nothing, turned and continued down the trail with a woman following behind him. The woman said "hello" as she passed and we never saw them again. I'm not sure why he had his firearm drawn, but I was very relieved that it ended quickly and I did not feel the need to draw mine!
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After living 50++ years in the Gila Valley, I finally made completed this hike. I've hiked the upper stretch many times, but never seemed to make it comepletlly down this trail. I have missed the pleasures of hiking this trail. It is a real gem to treasure. At the suggestion of a friend, Bonnie, we set out mid-morning from Cunningham campground along with her dog and my husband, Bill. Friends Helen and Paula had ferried us up the mountain, and after they hike for a while, they will reposition a second vehicle left at the foot of the mountain in the Fort Grant Prison parking lot.

The temperature was just right for a day hiking--there was no need for sweaters or jackets. The trail was in good condition. Several downed trees have been removed in the last year.

The maple and oak trees were resplendent in their fall colors. Lots of red to be seen all along the trail. The views of the Sulpher Spring Valley below were wonderful. About 2 miles down, the trail starts following along Post Creek, and for once there was lots of water.

The trail soon opens up at a flat under the Arizona Sycamores where it becomes a dirt road. Some places on the road are now washed out and would require quad to get into the area.

We passed the take-out, sand traps, and pipe line that used to supply Fort Grant with water. They are no longer used, but the system and deep pools are worthy of exploration. An old one-room building stands nearby, and locals will find it interesting to see Steve Vuchavich's (the original warden at Ft.Grant when it was the state Industrial School for Boys) name etched in the cement.

The road continued on down into the desert, crossing the wide creek two more times. Here we met teenagers walking up the road and their younger siblings playing in the water. Along the road the dog sped off into the woods; all I could make out was three verticle coati tails heading out of the area. We encountered quite a few additional wildlife tracks in the soft dirt along the road. The usual deer, snakes, and lizards. The most interesting were bear tracks. We followed them down to the forest service fence and gate. They then turned off the road and into the brush along the fence line. (Guess he couldn't manage the gate.)

The lower reaches of the mountain are glorious--an ideal place for easy day hikes, family picnics, and additional exploration. I will be returning.

We continued on down to the Fort where we picked up our vehicle and made it back home after a great day.
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