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 Chandler, AZ
Superstition 4x Summit Super Loop, AZ 
Superstition 4x Summit Super Loop, AZ
 
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John10sTriplogs 390
Hiking26.57 Miles 5,688 AEG
Hiking26.57 Miles   11 Hrs   22 Mns   2.49 mph
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I hadn't done a long hike in a few months, and since Joe hasn't planned anything crazy recently, I decided to get out for a longer hike in the Superstitions. I chose an old @LJW route that I'd my eye on for a few years that covered 25+ miles and hit four summits (Bluff Spring Mountain, Miner's Summit, Picacho Butte, and Coffee Flat 4621), with ~ 40% of the miles off-trail. Picacho and Coffee Flat were new ones for me and were the main attractions.

Peralta TH to Bluff Spring Mtn Summit
I packed 3.5+ liters of water, a purifier, and extra gear for a long day and set out from Peralta by flashlight just before 6AM. I carried the bear spray in case there were any lingering rabid bobcats or thirsty cougars still prowling the Peralta area after the recent closure. I covered the first few miles in the dark, with stars overhead and a comfortable temps, and the sky was just starting to lighten as I reached the Terrapin intersection. I left the trail west of Bluff Spring Mountain and took a direct route up to the summit, arriving just before 8AM with beautiful views of the sunrise lighting up Weaver's Needle and the Goldfields. [ youtube video ]

Bluff Spring Mtn to Miner's Summit
From the summit, I hiked SE across the mountain and descended on Ely-Anderson, my first time on that trail. Steep, but fairly well cairned and not too tough to follow. I connected with Dutchman and left the trail after a short distance to hike up the N/NE side of Miner's Summit, a 'miner' bump on the route relative to the terrain ahead. I was on summit #2 just after 9AM and took another short break on top, with Coffee Flat Mountain looming to the east. [ youtube video ]

Miner's Summit to Picacho Butte
Coming down from Miner's Summit, I saw two guys at the saddle below, the first people I'd seen all day. They continued east on Whiskey Spring, and I passed them before leaving the trail and to start up the ridge past the Circle benchmark toward Coffee Flat. Views were fantastic from the ridge, and the route looked straightforward, though the final approach is deceptive from a distance with 4621 hidden behind a false summit.

I generally stayed west of the rock outcroppings along the ridge, and there were two steep uphill stretches. The toughest part was skirting around the west side of 4562, the false summit that's visible from a distance--that involved a lot of side-hilling on a very steep grade that slowed the pace, but I dropped down to a ridge leading to Picacho Butte. The were a couple small false summits along the way, and the high point is a little north of 4294 label on the map, but the views were great. I was on summit #3 at ~11:20AM, and it was very cool to finally be up there after seeing Picacho from below so many times over the years.

Picacho Butte to Coffee Flat Mtn 4621
I ended up improvising on the route to 4621--the route I was following went back the way I came and would've followed the rugged ridgeline that runs SW of the summit. It looked like that would require more aggressive side-hilling around some large rock formations, so I decided to try a more direct route at 4621, first dropping down into a drainage west of the peak...that added some elevation but looked easier and more efficient than another round of side-hilling. I found a spot to scramble down into the drainage and exit the other side...the climb was steep but worked well, and I was on top of Coffee Flat about an hour after leaving Picacho. Once again, great views in all directions with 4621 being one of the highest peaks in that vicinity. [ youtube video ]

Coffee Flat Mtn 4621 to Red Tanks Divide
I dropped down the SE side of the summit, which was steeper than I expected. There were a couple of especially steep, rocky scrambles going down, first leaving the summit and another farther down as I dropped into one of the drainages, which had some small pools and trickling water. The route eventually leveled off and wasn't too brushy on the way to Red Tanks Divide.

Red Tanks Divide to Peralta TH
Finally back on trail with ~11 miles to go, I stopped and filtered water at a nice pool south of the divide. Red Tanks Trail was easy to follow and not nearly as overgrown as I expected, so the miles passed quickly. I'd never hiked that section of Red Tanks and was pleasantly surprised by the scenery approaching Dripping Spring--flowing water, flowers, beautiful cliffs, and some fall color. I crossed paths with two people camped near the spring, and one of their dogs enjoyed following me and barking...I wondered for a while if he planned to stick with me all the way back to Peralta :). The impressive scenery continued along Coffee Flat Trail, and I stopped by Reeds Water before continuing onto Dutchman in late afternoon shadows and finishing off the loop a little after 5PM.

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Fantastic loop, and one of the most memorable Superstition hikes I've done. I saw four people and two deer all day and covered a lot of ground...great sunrise and scenery, perfect weather, explored some new territory and visited two new peaks, and didn't pick up too many scratches. Good day all around :).

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Didn’t get a good look because people camped nearby but creek had light flow...presumably, the spring was dripping

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Jan 13 2026
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 Ahwatukee, AZ
Red Tanks Super Loop - Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,733
Hiking22.89 Miles 3,789 AEG
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After rescheduling from last week due to weather, Kelly and I headed out to hike the Red Tanks Super Loop today. Got to Peralta while it was still dark. As we were getting ready, a familiar looking vehicle pulled into the lot, but I couldn't see the driver. Kelly and I headed out on Dutchman to do the loop counter-clockwise. After a little more than a mile, Wally showed up behind us. So I really did recognize the vehicle. His plan for the day also had him heading the same direction, so we were a trio for another five miles or so as we headed east on Coffee Flat.

After showing us a unique rock pile, Kelly and I continued on Coffee Flat while Wally headed out to his planned adventure. The area has seen some flooding, and we found it easier at times to stay in the creek bed instead of attempting to follow obliterated trail. Plenty of hopping over water and dodging occasional quicksand was involved.

We turned onto Red Tanks Trail, which has also seen some flooding. Again, we opted to stay in the creek bed in places. Some catclaw as we climbed up towards the divide, and the trail was pretty rough in places. Once over the divide, the trail improved. We had lunch near the Hoolie Bacon junction, then continued west. Once past the junction with Whiskey Springs Trail, the rest of Red Tanks trail was in good shape. I topped off my water somewhere along here, but if I die soon, it was because I didn't filter it.

South on Dutchman, then turned onto Bluff Springs Trail. From there, we had mostly shade as the sun dropped lower. Temps were more pleasant too. The final few miles went by quickly as we completed the loop, arriving back at the trailhead right at sunset. Great hike and nice to get some good mileage for the day! Plenty of water along the entire route.
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Red Tanks Super Loop - Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
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linda suggested a hike in the superstitions
rescheduled due to last week's weather
we met up at 0600 and got going before 0700
headlamps for a mile
wally caught up with us between one and two miles along dutchman
we hiked together until he turned off at a drainage he wanted to explore off coffee flat
before then, he showed us an obscure rock pile - a worthy off trail detour
red tanks trail was not a trail the first half mile, until climbing out of the creek
some catclaw and other brush on the east end, much better after descending from the divide
labarge canyon is always scenic, with part of it easy walking
we took a break at the hoolie bacon intersection
tried to find labarge spring, were close but the area looks different than i remember
finished up on dutchman and bluff spring late afternoon
great loop, new combo for me although i've done dripping springs super loop thirteen years ago and all of the trails
red tanks wasn't as overgrown as expected
water flowing everywhere
saw seven people the entire day
nice to be out on a couple of trails i haven't been on in years
thanks linda, great day!
*using linda's stats, mine were very close
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 Mesa, AZ
Weaver's Needle Loop from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking13.41 Miles 3,185 AEG
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Wally and I got started around 6:15 from the Peralta TH in the dark. Just past the 1 mile mark we didn't need headlamps anymore and soon after the daylight was upon us. We got to Freemont Saddle before seeing other hikers, but I could a group catching up to us. Once we were on the other side of the saddle we were back in the shade and the hikers weren't on our heels anymore. Near Freemont Saddle there were several spots with ice on the trail, either from frozen puddles or the trickling water across the trail that froze.

The Peralta Trail is nearly half this hike, which I forgot. I've done this twice before and it's been at or over a decade between each time, so my memory fades with age. Along Peralta near the camps the hikers caught up with us again, but they were actually climbers, and soon got off the trail and headed up to summit Weaver's Needle. Saw a few more hikers along Peralta before making the turn onto LDT and heading up another hill.

At the junction of LDT and Terrapin we took lunch. The hike up Terrapin in this direction is mostly uphill, with a couple valleys to walk through. The first climb to Terrapin Pass is the worst, steep with loose rock. After that, the uphills are a shallow slope and solid footing, which I don't mind. Along this trail I heard a yell, which I think was the climbers as they summitted Weaver's Needle. At first I thought it might a bird or an animal, but when I looked at the summit, I spotted a sun reflection off of a camera or phone or something, so I knew the climbers were there. I called out to Wally and he spotted them too. I managed to get a couple decent shots of them for as far away as we were.

The downhill parts of the hike after Bluff Saddle were as bad the uphill parts, or worse. Part of getting older. None of it was that bad, it's just that uphill isn't as bad anymore for me, and downhill hurts the joints and feet. Talked to a hiker who passed us who had just flown in from Pittsburgh and was in for the weekend.

got back to the TH after 2:30, making for over 8 hours for the day. I remember this hike taking that long 13 years ago, it didn't take too much more time this many years later, which is good. Temps were very cool the entire time, which helped pay off the gamble I made to pack less water.
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Weaver's Needle Loop from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
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I had not hiked this loop in a while so when Chris told ne was hiking it I was in. The hike up Peralta to Fremont Saddle was the usual grind but it kept us warm in the early morning cool. There was some wind near the saddle but that came and went all day.
The trail is easy to follow but there is some overgrowth due to the wet fall. With the early start up Peralta we didn't see a lot other other hikers until we were back to the Cave trail. The temps stayed moderate all day and this made for a good workout.
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Whiskey West - Red Tanks LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking17.51 Miles 2,914 AEG
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Plz note: parking lot full again. Was supposed to meet one more hiker on trail but there was a miscommunication and went wrong way. Pry 15 miles and a bit less AEG without any of that.

Also, apparently these trails have been cleaned up since original write up and some of these prior triplogs. RF and catclaw not much of an issue. On a Supes streak and not done yet!
 
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Superstitions Cave/Terrapin/Bluff Loop, AZ 
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update: I don't bother with recording GPX tracks, I just make waypoint notes as digital cairns, but here's a radiacode recording (incomplete, I forget to turn it on at times after breaks or whatever, not used to it): https://map.radiaverse.com/tracks/c6db6 ... -111.35492

An afternoon start to one night trip - mostly because we hadn't been backpacking in around two months vs just making it a dayhike. Drycamped off the cave trail with great views and enjoyed it quite a lot.

The cave trail is easy to follow once you hit the spur that comes up from Peralta - LOTS of people heading to the viewpoint. I assume that segment is on alltrails? Fainter before that with some routefinding needed up from the bluff trail (no sign) and some steep class 2 heading up to the ridge with the "cave" in it (more of an alcove). We ended up offroute a few times, but enjoyed our detours, stumbling across an alcove someone had camped in (modern) and finding some cairned game trails.

The trail E of weaver's needle is a strong single track use trail in places, non-existent in a few spots, somewhat cairned. We started off too far N and ended up taking a harder route in to the main saddle, but passed some nice pillars. Overall this and the cave trail were the most enjoyable areas, though some spots south of the Terrapin trail and Barks canyon looked neat too.

We enjoyed the mix of geology - sort of a bit of white canyon, JT, and the ancha rolled into one and will be back to poke around more later. Overall a more interesting overall area of the supes than the spots I was in before, which tended to have highlights but less overall interesting terrain.

Tons of water - the ridge of the cave trail had some trickles and small pools but wasn't as good as I thought it might be. We packed in a little extra water to keep things simple since packs were light. Dropping from Fremont Saddle a lot of side creeks were flowing, and obvious drainages had flowing water in them which often seemed a bit better quality than the main creeks.

A shorter but more interesting version of what I assume the "Big Weaver's Needle Loop" is. Someone doing that kept arguing with me that I needed to do the PCT lol.

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Weaver's Needle Summit - East cl.4 routePhoenix, AZ
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Solo return trip to finish hauling out the remaining tat and upgrade the anchors. Now if any skilled enough climbers complete any of the challenging east side routes, there are rap stations for a quick descent back to the base. Skipped summiting this time but for reentry, reexplored Nine Turtle Stack and [ Terrapin Throne - Peak 3826 ] .
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Bluff Spring Loop & Weavers View AZ, AZ 
Bluff Spring Loop & Weavers View AZ, AZ
 
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Hiking10.46 Miles 2,004 AEG
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Arturas and Jelena were dog-sitting for a mini bichon frise named Popcorn, and we decided to take the little rat out for a nice walk in the Superstitions.

The parking lot was full at 0940, so we parked in a space about 0.2 miles away from the trailhead. It was about 60° when we started, and quickly went up to the high 70s / low 80s. There were 2 bighorn sheep up in the mountains that were visible from the trailhead. First sheep we've seen in the Supes.

This was our second time doing this loop, and it did not disappoint. The desert was remarkably green and beautiful from all the recent rain, with wildflowers everywhere. Popcorn was able to keep up for the first 2-3 miles, but the little princess preferred to be carried for most of the rest of the way. We passed Miner's Needle and all the other cool rock formations. We decided not to take the detour over to the view of Weaver's Needle, with Popcorn being the deciding vote.The final 2 miles were uneventful except for some occasional slips on the loose rocks. We headed straight to Hundred Mile Brewery for a perfect end to the adventure.

Overall a beautiful day with great views and good times. Although the lot was full, we saw only 5 other people (and one dog) total on this loop. We did't get many opportunities for hikes in 2025, but this was a good one to end the year.
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Bluff Spring Mountain, AZ 
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Heading up Bluff Spring Mountain has been on my list for a while now, but it was always 'next time,' so when S invited me to hike up, I was definitely in. I hadn't hiked with our tour guide, Wally, for a bit, but always good to get out with him as he showed us a couple of sites. The Peralta mall was already a quarter full when we arrived a little after 7. It was cool and cloudy, but the humidity was really cranked up as I immediately went for the short sleeves. Cardiac Hill is always a 'fun' time, then an easy walk down Bluff Spring to the Ely-Anderson junction. The hike up is pretty well marked with cairns (although we did get a bit off trail on the way down), but it is a steep climb up with excellent views, even with the low ceiling. Once we got to the official end of Ely-Anderson, we wandered a bit with Wally showing us a couple of things before we climbed up the ridge to look down at Hidden Valley. With the ankle still not at 100% I debated about climbing down the wash to Hidden Valley with Wally and S, but in the end I decided to explore the area on top while they headed down. Shortly after they left, rain moved in around the mountain, and the wind picked up, but I stayed dry as I wandered and explored different areas of the mountain. After a little bit, I ended up back at a nice camping spot where the Ely-Anderson trail started down and dozed off in the sun, waiting for S and Wally to return. After a couple of hours, they returned and apparently made it a little bit past the dam before the creek became bouldery and chocked (that validated my decision to stay behind :y:). Uneventful hike back down to Bluff Spring and back to the TH, where the mall was still lined with cars. It was nice to finally get up on top of BSM, always a great day in the Supes. Thanks, S for the invite and thanks Wally, for joining and showing us a couple of things.
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Bluff Spring Mountain, AZ 
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A hike up Bluff Spring Mountain and down into Hidden Valley. We started early but came up a little short. The weather was nice. A bit humid early but cool and the clouds kept the sun away so it stayed cool all day.
The hike up Ely-Anderson is work but we stopped to enjoy the views of the surrounding mountains and Middle Canyon. The rock wall and the smelter cave are other points of interest. We located Pharoah rock on top and then went east for the route into Hidden Valley.
Jason is still favoring his ankle so he explored up top while Stephanie and I dropped down into catclaw heaven. We followed the wash on the way in. The wash is fairly open but the rock hopping and winding plain slowed the pace.
Beyond the dam the creek bed became bouldering. You get a workout (HAZercise) from this but we decided to turn back so Jason wouldn't be waiting too long. I think it opens up again before the waterfall but we couldn't see how far ahead that was.
The hike out was nice and seemed easy since we were no longer hiking up or scrambling off trail. A good hike with good people.
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Another early morning start from the Peralta Trailhead. This feels like it's becoming a habit. We arrived before sunrise, passing a remarkably full Carney Springs/Wave Cave TH, to discover the lot a quarter full. The day dawned cool and overcast, with plenty of humidity in the air.

I guess I hadn't gotten my fill of Bluff Spring Mountain, or the Bluff Springs Trail (and Cardiac Hill) earlier in the month because that was the destination for the day. Off we went, with the guys leading the way while I dawdled behind, capturing photos of flowers as I went. There weren't any surprises heading up the trail to the junction with Ely-Anderson, aside from the things Wally was kind enough to point out as we went.

Ely-Anderson was well marked and easier to follow on the way up. Cairns are placed at decent intervals (though I still managed to lose track of it in a spot or two on the way back down). The climb up is surprisingly steep, especially knowing that horses have been up the route...at least I'm presuming the strike/wear marks I saw on the bare rock sections were from horseshoes.

The views heading up were stunning, and made more interesting with low hanging clouds present. Once we arrived near the top, the trail seemingly disappeared, giving way to rolling terrain with amazing views all around and the Bluff Spring Mountain Summit in the distance. We made our way over to the ridgeline to look into Hidden Valley, surprisingly far below.

For some unknown reason, I felt compelled to venture on down into the valley. Wally was kind enough to join me while J opted to stay up top to explore and give his troublesome ankle a bit of a rest. Not spotting any evidence of a previously travelled route, we took a direct path down to the wash with hopes that staying in the watercourse would keep us out of the brush. For the most part, sticking to the drainage kept us clear of the worst of the catclaw as we made our way to the valley floor, though it was slow going with the rock hopping and winding path. Since J wasn't with us, I was sure to say hello to the catclaw for him. We eventually made it to the dam remains and continued on - the pace slowed even more with brush encroaching and the rocks becoming more boulder sized. After a time check, we decided to head back up, leaving the waterfall for some other time (perhaps I'll have to visit it from below next time).

We opted to pop out of the creekbed and see if we could stick closer to the published route on our way back up. We were able to set a route back up to the ridgeline that kept us mostly clear of further catclaw entanglement by picking a line that followed sections of solid rock. Once up top, we reunited with J and made our way back down. The descent down Ely-Anderson was slow going thanks to the steep grade - my knee complaining most of the way. Managed to lose the trail a couple times, but managed to spot cairns to get back on track. The remainder of the hike back was uneventful. The trailhead still had plenty of vehicles parked on our return.

It was great to get a chance to see a seldom visited area of the Superstitions with good company. Thanks for joining, J & Wally!

Other People: One headed up behind us on Bluff Springs but turned off for the Cave Trail, a backpacker with a pup heading up Bluff Springs to Terrapin, and a backpacker filtering water from a pool in the drainage near the Bluff Springs trail on our way back out.

** I'll be posting my photoset slightly delayed - it should be up in the next day or so. I blame the numerous flowers and fantastic views for the delay. 😂
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Bluff Spring Mountain LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 04 2025
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Hiking17.50 Miles 3,266 AEG
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It's been a tough week for me personally, after learning on Tuesday that I had been laid off. One positive from that is I could hike more and possibly hit my personal goal for the year. I've done this loop multiple times, and after seeing Joe and The Eagle do this loop last week, I thought it would be good to hit it up again. S and I arrive at Peralta TH a little after 7 with only 3 other cars in the lot. I live 15 minutes away from the TH, and there was zero wind at my house, but the wind was pretty gusty when we got there, and it was freezing pumpkin cold with it. I had never done this loop CCW, so I figured it would be a nice change of pace, completely forgetting about the torturous climb up to Terrapin Pass, where I cussed and complained the entire way, good thing S was ahead of me and did not get stuck listening to it. :lol:

Bluff Springs
I despise cardiac hill (going up and down) as it gets your breathing heavy right off the start. A little brushy on the way down and a bit worse in Bluff Canyon, more grass than anything. The trail is good all the way through.

Dutchman
It's a Savannah near Bluff Springs with hidden rocks ready to snap your ankle every chance they get. Brushy near Holmes Spring, this section always drags for me; it's kind of blah and long. We did not stop at La Barge, but a little bit of color started there and at Oak Spring. Quick break at a nice camping site near Oak Spring, and we continued. S had never seen the master map, so we made a quick detour to check it out and then headed up to Charlebois. The spring is full of decent-looking water, like it always is; had lunch at the campsite near the spring and continued. A little before the Calvary junction, we hit the Siphon fire burn area, which fried the huge Saguro that was right off the Dutchman. The trail through the burn was good, as it's been travelled pretty frequently, it would seem. The burn ended a bit up the Dutchman, stopping just before some of the riparian areas before Terrapin; however, it did make it to the huge swimmer that used to be a pretty cool spot.

Terrapin
I have a love/hate relationship with this trail. The climb up to the pass completely sucks, but I really enjoy the rock formations on the Bluff Spring end. We took a break once we made it up to the pass to catch our breath and my legs. From the pass to Bluff Saddle, the trail is brushy, and you need to keep your eyes open for carins to help through some of the areas.

Uneventful hike back to the TH, getting back a little after 5. This is the most miles I've done on my ankle since injuring it. While it was very sore after 5ish miles, it felt fine the day after. It was good to get out in the Supes to try and clear my mind. Thanks S, for joining.
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Tons of water in the creek.
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Bluff Spring Mountain LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Because once up Terrapin this year wasn't enough.... 😆

Headed out to do a long loop that's been on my "should revisit" list. Swung by J's place to pick him up before sunrise, saw some cars at the Carney Springs Trailhead, and arrived at the Peralta lot to find only three other cars there. As we were driving out, we noticed that the winds had apparently decided to build as sunrise approached. Sure enough, as we got out of the car, we were shocked with the cutting breeze...I guess the good news is we would surely warm right up tackling cardiac hill straight away!

As expected, cardiac hill certainly got us warm, but sweat plus the breeze wasn't a good pairing. In an attempt to temperature regulate, I opted to peel off my wicking layer and continue onward with my windbreaker - this proved to be semi-successful, though I was then stuck with the windbreaker sleeves clinging to my sweaty arms...better than being stuck either freezing or overheating, I suppose. Oh the joys of re-discovering out how best to temperature regulate on the fly 😆

We had talked briefly about hitting this loop clockwise vs counter-clockwise. I didn't have any strong opinions on the matter...loose rocky nonsense on a grade is not particularly delightful in either direction. J seemed interested in hitting in CCW, so that's what we opted for. Sections of the Dutchman trail are playing peek-a-boo with tall grasses, requiring a fair bit of attention to ensure good foot placement. Saw a bit of color on the trees at the various springs as we passed. The sun had finally climbed high enough and the wind had mostly disappeared by the time we made Oak Spring, so we had a quick break to shed layers back to our more typical hiking attire before continuing onward to Charlebois and a quick visit to view the master map (thank you for showing it to me, J - I suspect I wouldn't have easily found it on my own!).

After a break to refuel near the spring, we continued on our way, eventually entering the burn region. I don't have strong memories of what the area looked like pre-fire, and I don't seem to have any photos from "way back when" to give myself a refresher. J showed me a photo of the big stately saguaro that was just off trail that is no more 😭

Soon enough, we found ourselves at the junction with Terrapin. Same as my previous visit, I was hitting this section late in the day after covering some decent miles. The climb up this time was easier - I'd like to think my conditioning has improved significantly since the last time I gave it a go. Still slow, but didn't seem to require the stops that I recalled having to make the last time I did it. When the trail gets close to the watercourse in the section before Bluff Saddle, things got a little faint at times with the overgrowth obscuring the way. Once we closed the loop, it was an easy return to the trailhead, making our way back down cardiac hill during golden hour.
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Didn't find the actual spring, but there is plenty of flow in the nearby creekbed.
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Bluff Spring Mountain LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,863
Hiking16.19 Miles 2,932 AEG
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It’s Superstition season again.

A 7:10 start with the sun just starting to rise, temps in the 50s, and a light breeze blowing—how does it get any nicer? There was a van in the parking lot with a camera crew of some sort just getting packed up; we would see them again at the end of our hike. Not a clue what was going on there. The road in to Peralta was in mostly great shape, with only a couple of areas where you needed to slow down to avoid some rutting.

Bluff Springs Trail #235
There’s been a bit of work at the beginning of this trail to fix some washouts. Cardiac Hill still gets the heart pumping. Sure feels like more than a 500' climb.

Terrapin Trail #234
We opted to do this balloon loop clockwise to avoid the steep, loose drop from Terrapin Pass to the Dutchman Trail. This worked out well. There are a few areas on the Terrapin Trail where we actually had to consult our GPS; it’s a bit thin in spots.

Dutchman Trail #104
The Dutchman is a collection of friendly grades, running water, large trail-side boulders, and hints of fall. We took a break for lunch in a dry spot across from Oak Spring in LaBarge Creek, amongst the colorful cottonwoods.

We took the Dutchman back to the Bluff Spring Trail, where we ultimately retraced our steps back to the TH.

We did not see a single person the entire day until we were within 2 miles of the TH. Temps were perfect all day. I don’t think we went more than 15 minutes without seeing and/or hearing water. There were quite a few areas of wildflowers of all types. Get out and enjoy all the greenness of the Supes.
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Bluff Spring Mountain LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Overall, the road in is of zero concern. Supa smooth for the majority. The second of two major washes slows down the low riders momentarily.

The trail up Cardiac Hill is easier for two-thirds because of trail work, erosion fill, and use. The turn off for Cave Trail #233 is distinctive. A little flow crossing Barks and less near Peralta Rock Gap. Summer sounds of crickets and large swarms of gnats, but they were not annoying. Yellow skipper butterflies.

Bruce was cool enough to do any hike I desired, short of a death march. He's long wished to do this loop clockwise, as he despises the North-South Terrapin ascent. Just passing the Terrapin turn, I figured, why not, so we turned around.

Clockwise was intriguing, as I haven't felt that disorientation in the Supes in eons. I'd rather hike either direction in warmer to hot weather with a breeze than calm fairweather, but to each their own.

White Rock Spring to Holmes is a jungle in areas. Luckily, we cruised by all the side trips. I enjoy checking them out when it's dry, but it's pointless with abundant pools and canyons trickling.

I had to stop about eight more times than Bruce. It became apparent he was not hydrated for a 26-30 miler.
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Flattop buckwheat, wolfberry, Parish Goldeneye, lots of exhausted fairy duster. Hints of filaree, which typically means a better-than-average wildflower season. Indian paintbrush, isolated Calypso, large fields of the base leaves of invasive California poppies...

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Dry at the trail crossing. Water is guaranteed on this date up near the spring and down in LaBarge.

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Weaver's Needle Summit - East cl.4 routePhoenix, AZ
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The amount of unnecessary tat discovered on route was disconcerting. We removed some but it would need another trip to clean and setup to a tolerable degree. Optimistically, the main bolt/ring for the west side rap that Dave & I added twenty years ago is holding up nicely, albeit not as level as I'd prefer but that doesn't warrant redoing (yet). :)
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Whiskey West - Red Tanks LoopPhoenix, AZ
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We did a clockwise variation of this loop with some exploring along the way for a nice little Thanksgiving overnight backpack.

We hiked in the Bluff Springs Trail and then camped at the nice site near Oak Spring and then did some exploring towards the Charlebois Spring area on day one. On the second day we did some off trail exploring along the Red Tanks Trail before starting our hike back to the car. We spent most of the day on the hike out, but that included extended breaks at several of the watering holes on the way out. All of the major drainages we encountered were flowing and most of the secondary drainages were still trickling water from the most recent precipitation event. We hardly saw anyone over the two days. A couple groups of hikers/backpackers each day. It’s tough to beat the western Supes as an easy overnight destination this time of year and with these current conditions. An excellent backpack on all accounts and in one of my favorite areas in the Supes.
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A nice day to brave the Peralta Trailhead on a Sunday. There is a nice amount of water draining out of those mountains. We hiked up the Bluff Spring Trail and then continued down the Terrapin Trail for a few miles before turning around and returning the way we hiked in.

There were not very many cars at the trailhead when we arrived rather lately around 8:30 a.m. We passed a few people early on, but only saw a handful of hikers after the first few miles and not many on the return. We finished to a partially full lot on a Sunday, which was a nice relief. The Bluff Springs Trail is in pretty good shape. A trail crew was working on the trail near the beginning and doing a good job at cleaning up some of the erosion and use damage the early stretches of the trail are known for. The Terrapin Trail was a little soggy and overgrown, but I was happy to see one of my favorite sets of ephemeral falls out there flowing nicely. After a chilly break at the falls, we returned the way we hiked in. An excellent day in the western Superstitions on all fronts.

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Weaver's Needle Loop from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
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Arrived at Peralta a little later in the morning to a full parking lot. Had to park in one of the lower overflow parking areas.

Per usual, most were going up Peralta, so after my turn off on Bluff Springs, I ensured separation from the crowds.

A trail crew was doing some nice maintenance on the lower part of the climb.

Lots of water in Barks and on Terrapin. Passed a few day hikers/trail runners and a backpacking couple headed to Charlebois.

I had never taken the crosscut before. The turn off is well marked, and the route is pretty distinct—especially on the east side.

Great views of the Needle in the valley along the crosscut.

Coming down the west side, at what I’ll call “dog rock,” there’s a choice to head down the northern flank of the drainage, which I did. After a bit, I consulted the gps track I had downloaded and realized that route went down the southern flank. That said, the northern flank was pretty well traveled and marked.

The return on Peralta was pretty routine.

A few sprinkles here and there, but I avoided any real rain until after I was back on the road home.
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