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Pipeline Trail #193 - Pinal - 8 members in 20 triplogs have rated this an average 3 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Jul 21 2025
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 Far NE Phoenix,
Pinal Peak via Six Shooter, AZ 
Pinal Peak via Six Shooter, AZ
 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
Hiking13.29 Miles 3,571 AEG
Hiking13.29 Miles   6 Hrs   44 Mns   2.32 mph
3,571 ft AEG   1 Hour   1 Min Break12 LBS Pack
 
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This is the first time our schedules matched up since the end of April. Taking advantage of the cooler temps and cloud cover, we headed to the Pinals. The low 70s to start were welcome for the steepish six-mile climb to the Rock Ladder.

Sixshooter is in generally good condition, with only a few downed logs easily hopped over and some mildly encroaching brush.

Ferndell Trail is also in good condition, with what appears to be some semi-recent trailwork.

A short trip to the Rock Ladder and then to Pinal Peak followed, where we ran into a large group of tower workers with no humor whatsoever. Temps were 64 at this point and almost cool at times.

The Middle Trail and the Pipeline Trail were up next. We passed some volunteers working on Pipeline. A short road walk back to Ferndell and down the hill on Sixshooter wrapped up the day.

It was good catching up with Joe.
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[ checklist ]  Ferndell Spring
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Steady drizzle of cold clear water.


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Moist on the ground around the opening. Springbox water was thick and murky
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Jul 21 2025
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Pinal Peak Shootout, AZ 
Pinal Peak Shootout, AZ
 
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joebartelsTriplogs 5,894
Hiking13.37 Miles 3,563 AEG
Hiking13.37 Miles   6 Hrs   44 Mns   2.37 mph
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Bruce suggested an out-n-back on Cabin Loop on a Slope with the two boring peaks. I don't see the point outside of Autumn, but it sounded better than anything I'd done recently, and the weather looked nice.

The drive to the mountain from Globe was the same as always, a total mystery. His hike was a redo of Linda's 2023 Sixshooter Canyon bridge to Signal-n-Pinal Peaks.

Bruce had remarkable energy for the first 3/4 of a mile up, then he checked.

Cool summer vs recent years, boy howdy it was pleasant 1.6ish mi up from the bridge on the cloudy ascent. A few spots in the next half-mile to mile are among my favorites because the views out through the pines remind me of Big Bear.

The balance of the hike up was lovely when there was a breeze. Next up were the peaks, which I've always despised. God created this mountain for skillet-dwellers to enjoy autumn foliage, it's not a peak bagger's paradise... you can drive to them.

We took a break below Ladder Rock and then headed up to Pinal Peak, where Bruce's jubilant greetings to the resting workers went largely ignored. I weasled out of Signal.

The views down to Pioneer Basin with the Dripping Spring Mountains always intrigue, but I'll never explore.

The descent weighed heavily on my mind, but Bruce didn't rush, and it went better than anticipated.

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It was an enjoyable hike.
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It was a total bust
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Jul 19 2025
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 Joined Mar 01 2018
 Chandler, AZ
Kellner Telephone Loop, AZ 
Kellner Telephone Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jul 19 2025
John10sTriplogs 346
Hiking13.45 Miles 3,457 AEG
Hiking13.45 Miles   5 Hrs   15 Mns   2.97 mph
3,457 ft AEG      43 Mns Break
 
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Chums and I met at 6AM and were on the trail ~7:45AM, starting at the top of Kellner Canyon Trail from a parking spot along FR 651. We had good cloud cover to start, with 4+ miles of downhill on Kellner until we reached the intersection with Icehouse, the low point of the loop at ~5,200'. Just as we approached the intersection, the sun came out in time for the long climb up toward Pinal Peak, and the humidity made it a real sweat-fest.

We took a break once we got back into better tree cover near the Icehouse/Telephone intersection, then continued up Telephone, which had some serious trail maintenance done last year and remains nicely cleared. The final approach up to Ferndell Spring was steeper than I remembered, but the pipe at the spring was flowingly nicely. From there, we took Ferndell Trail (also steeper than I remembered) up to the top and saw two deer just south of Pinal Peak as we headed over to Ladder Rock.

The clouds had returned, and with minimal wind, we took another break on top of the rock...very pleasant except for an extremely persistent bee that tormented me for several minutes. As dark clouds started to gather above us, we climbed down and headed north toward Signal Peak, with a quick stop at Pinal. We found one of the reference marks, but the benchmark must be missing or buried.

The forecast called for a 40% chance of rain, and it started to sprinkle on the way over to Signal, so Chumley pulled out the umbrella, but the sprinkles remained relatively light. We took Pipeline to avoid more road hiking, then made the final approach up to the peak and chatted with the guy stationed at the lookout tower. He let us borrow his picnic table for another short break as the rain started up again, but it let up almost immediately after we put on rain gear and had dry conditions and partly sunny skies the rest of the way.

To finish off the loop, we took a pleasant off-trail route that let us avoid the road and provided some nice views of the Superstitions and impressive thunderheads over the Sierra Anchas. The hiking gods rewarded Chumley for drawing up such a nice route with a Motorola walkie talkie/MP3 player we found on the way back...it looked like something out of the 80s but was only a few years old. We were done at 1PM and hadn't seen any other hikers/bikers all day.

Not much wildlife other than the deer, but it was a fun loop with good weather despite the sprinkles--the sun felt warm on some of the exposed uphill stretches, but the temperature never reached 80°, and it was nice to get out of Phoenix and hike somewhere that doesn't rhyme with Mouth Fountain for a change.
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Dog House Spring Dripping Dripping
Spring box below the spring was full, but water was murky

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Steady flow from the pipe

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Small amount of stagnant, mucky water in spring box
 
Jul 19 2025
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 Tempe, AZ
Kellner Telephone Loop, AZ 
Kellner Telephone Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jul 19 2025
chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking12.99 Miles 3,217 AEG
Hiking12.99 Miles   5 Hrs   15 Mns   2.91 mph
3,217 ft AEG      47 Mns Break
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1st trip
Fun little loop in the Pinals. Cloud cover kept things very pleasant all day, with a high of only 76. Some light rain threatened to increase just long enough for me to model my skirt for the fire lookout and his black lab.

I hadn't been on Kellner in years, and found that while the trail was in excellent shape, it was more exposed than I remembered and we were happy to be blessed with overcast skies.

I forgot how insanely steep the stretch of Icehouse from Kellner to Doghouse is. And again the grade on upper Sixshooter. A real grind. There were some nuisance gnatish flies on that stretch too. And next up Ferndell will quickly remind you you're not at the top yet.

The Pinal rock was a nice break spot that featured a skunk and a bee that really really liked John. We sauntered across to Signal via the Pinal high point and the Middle and Pipeline trails. I had mapped out a route that followed a couple of ridges from the summit down to the top of Kellner, avoiding the road, and this turned out to be highly enjoyable, with trouble-free terrain and stellar views.

For a 107 day in PHX, the clouds made this one ideal. In the sun, it would likely be a little too warm in the lower stretches.
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Dog House Spring Dripping Dripping
Springbox was full. Water had an unappetizing film on the surface.

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Nice steady trickle with full cold springbox

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Springbox was about half full. Drainage had stagnant pools.
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May 12 2024
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 Joined Mar 01 2018
 Chandler, AZ
Pinal Mountains Sixshooter - Icehouse Loop, AZ 
Pinal Mountains Sixshooter - Icehouse Loop, AZ
 
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John10sTriplogs 346
Hiking15.07 Miles 3,931 AEG
Hiking15.07 Miles   8 Hrs   11 Mns   2.05 mph
3,931 ft AEG      50 Mns Break
 
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We hadn't hiked in the Pinals before, and this looked like a good higher-elevation loop to get out of the heat and see something new. We started on Sixshooter Trail from the empty Ice House Campground parking area. The first mile and a half was underwhelming through the fire-damaged area, but the scenery improved quickly after crossing the road near the bridge. Leaving the fire area behind, it was a pleasant climb with the creek flowing and a plenty of shade and greenery.

We connected with FR 651C and passed few cabins on the way up to Pinal Peak. Three people were walking down as we approached, but we had the peak to ourselves. The map shows a benchmark up there, but I didn't see one in the brief time I spent looking. The views are nice for a peak with a road, buildings, and communication towers, and this one had a lot of tower accessories scattered around.

Leaving the peak, we hiked over to Ladder Rock and passed a few tents and a horse in a corral nearby...turned out it was the three people we'd seen walking down from the peak. The views from Ladder Rock were nice looking off toward East Mountain with the lack of towers and unobstructed view in that direction.

Next up was Signal Peak, the second road/communication tower summit of the day. We took the road back to the west and passed a few more cabins, then connected with Middle Trail and Pipeline Trail. That was another area badly damaged by fire. Both trails were easy to follow in most places, and neither was especially overgrown, just scorched. Pipeline led us back to FR 651, where I saw a deer on the way up to Signal Peak. There was at least one person and a dog or two in the lookout station, and I took a look around and headed back down.

We followed 651 over to Icehouse Trail to loop back toward the starting point. There was some deadfall to climb over, but the trail was in pretty good shape overall. Lots of pleasant shade and a steady flow of water in the creek bed. Further down, the canyon become a lot more rugged far below the trail, and there were some impressive falls deep in the canyon. We also passed some nice cactus blooms with 30+ flowers packed together. We took a short lunch break with a mile and a half to go, then finished the loop back to the campground. Other than the three campers near Pinal Peak and a few vehicles on the roads, we didn't see anyone else all day.
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Dog House Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Steady flow in the creek bed near the spring

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Spring box half full of stagnant water, no obvious flow
 
Oct 22 2023
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 Joined Nov 20 2012
 Phoenix, AZ
Pinals 1/2x Unsuper Loop, AZ 
Pinals 1/2x Unsuper Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 22 2023
BiFrostTriplogs 1,257
Hiking10.48 Miles 2,286 AEG
Hiking10.48 Miles   5 Hrs   16 Mns   2.33 mph
2,286 ft AEG      46 Mns Break
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1st trip
Fun and easier way to do this hike especially with the lower half of the Pinals severely burned in the last fire. Drove to the top and parked at Icehouse trailhead. Started down and immediately ran into the mountain biking trail crew (refer to Chumley's triplog for the full report :) ). Trail sweeping was their game but hiking was ours.

Hiking down Icehouse it was immediately apparent we were a bit early. Some of the prime spots were still mostly green and the lower we descended the greener it got. Eventually we hit the midway junction and followed the trail over to the Sixshooter side. This section was impacted by the burn so we had some brush, downfall and erosion to navigate but could still follow the trail.

Once on the Sixshooter side we were out of the burn zone but still green trees. We ascended to the Sixshooter junction and went down the trail a bit hoping to get some color but nothing materialized. We turned around heading back up Sixshooter toward Ferndell Spring. More color in the top 3/4 mile section to the spring and of course parking lot at Ferndell was really nice as usual. Basically the color was pretty much isolated to the Ferndell Spring and immediate surrounding area.

Headed over to Pinal Peak and lookout rock for lunch. Then instead of hiking the road back to Icehouse we hopped on Middle Trail and Pipeline for most of it. Fun trails as I've never hiked them before. Nice to hit the Pinals again!
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 Tempe, AZ
Pinals 1/2x Unsuper Loop, AZ 
Pinals 1/2x Unsuper Loop, AZ
 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking10.48 Miles 2,286 AEG
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2,286 ft AEG      46 Mns Break
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1st trip
Spent Saturday at home doing homethings resulting in a required Sunday outdoors. Recruited Karl for something closeish to town without involving a Sunday afternoon on the 17. I hadn't been back here since Telegraph re-torched it again and figured it would be good to see how things fared.

Past experience had me thinking it was a few weeks early for prime color, but the rest of the checklist worked out so we headed out to hit the mountain anyway. I knew the closures had been lifted a year ago, but didn't properly research and got turned around trying to drive up the washed out road -- which is definitely not open. Had to backtrack to Globe and swing around to Kellner. Somehow I have never actually driven up this road before, I've always hiked the trails up. The drive was longer than anticipated but enjoyable, with the most courteous and attentive dirt road drivers I have ever encountered (they all pulled aside to let me pass within moments of my approach! : app : )

We parked at the top of Icehouse and immediately encountered a trail crew doing maintenance. The 9:30am tower-station-drinking forest-service-shirt-and-badge-wearing volunteer team leader informed me that the trail is still closed. I decided not to argue and had a polite discussion about the unusual trail clearing techniques at work before continuing on by. There was literal sweeping going on. With brooms. The tread was wheelchair smooth, and clear of even the smallest pine needle or leaf. Bare dirt, ready to erode with the first drop of unobstructed flowing water. :-k

The volunteers informed me that these trails are really not meant for hikers, as they are primarily mountain biking trails. Well, that explains it! :sweat: What wasn't explained is why 10 people were using brooms to clear the first half mile of trail when the next two miles were littered with deadfall, rocks, and erosion. They did say they don't ride or hike back up the hill so it made no sense to me why they would spend so much time manicuring a tiny part of a trail that was largely impassable by bikes anyway. Give it a year or three and they should have the whole thing looking like a bocce court for your hiking pleasure!

While not mtn bike friendly -- at all -- it was absolutely fine to hike. A few quick hops and steps and no problem following the tread. Very low impact burn with no moonscape and plenty of healthy regrowth among all the large trees that all survived the ground fire here.

We made a little shortcut to head over to Telephone, which is thoroughly overgrown and prickly. Apparently this is a hiking trail, not a biking trail :roll: . After reaching the ridge it cleared up nicely and climbing back up toward sixshooter was enjoyable.

We headed down on sixshooter for a bit looking for some great color spots we remembered from past years, but as had been true the whole way so far, it was green, green, and not a sign of anything but green, so we turned back and made our ascent to Ferndell.

Plenty of trailwork has been accomplished on top of the mountain, with numerous trees cut and cleared -- thanks presumably to the mtnbk trail crews. A couple spots of color looked great, and the corner at Ferndell was prime. From here we headed up to Pinal Peak and had a snack on the lookout rock while the buzzing from the new adjacent tower killed far more brain cells than the summit beer did.

From Pinal we avoided roads on the enjoyable Middle Trail and Pipeline Trails heading back to the start. On Joe's recommendation we contemplated Bobtail for exactly zero seconds :) . We'd both been to Signal a couple of times before so we skipped the short walk up to the fire tower and headed back to the truck. A couple of courteous drivers were passed on the drive back down the hill. Uncanny awareness and polititude for drivers here!

Happy to see most of the enjoyable upper half of the mountain will continue to be a worthy hiking destination, despite the fire.
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90% all green. A couple of isolated spots of prime color at the highest elevations. Ferndell is always a couple weeks ahead of the rest and fit that description today.
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May 25 2021
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 Mesa, AZ
Pinal Peak 7848Globe, AZ
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Enjoying the cool pines. Soaking in the views. Soaking in the sun. Soaking in the RF from all the antennas. Life is good.
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 Phoenix, AZ
East - Pinal - Signal Loop, AZ 
East - Pinal - Signal Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar May 07 2021
LJWTriplogs 266
Hiking21.17 Miles 4,968 AEG
Hiking21.17 Miles   7 Hrs   37 Mns   3.08 mph
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Another favorite hike of last year I had another go at. Changed it slightly, figured why go all the way up the mountain only to walk the road instead of upper Six Shooter, Middle, and Pipeline Trails. Started around sunrise and went clockwise.

Six Shooter to Una Del Oso water in the one creek, nothing on Oso. Overall drier than June last year. Tread is good, cold in the drainages and warm in the sunrise.

Toll Road through East Mountain Trail the scenery picks up. Into the forest, good wilflowers along the way. East Mountain ridgeline fun as ever. Too early for ladybugs. Up the north ridge and down the west through the pines like last year. Not much of a bushwhack but it's steep.

Pioneer up to Pinal Peak and the climbing was out of the way. Relaxing cruise for Ferndell - 6 Shooter - Middle - Pipeline. Leaves higher up yet to regrow, lower down the oaks, maples, etc are fleshing out. Made for less shade on Ferndell than in June. Still a lovely trail and network between the cabins and campgrounds. Middle Trail a particular favorite. Lost Pipeline on the north side but found the end at the road. It's there just got impatient and climbed up to the campsite.

Signal Peak fire watch season is already underway. Tower was occupied, loud phone conversations and radio static the first signs of human life on the day.

Down the roads to Kellner. Passed a sedan that had driven up, only person I passed all day. Kellner trail starts in the canyon of fir and oak. Oaks are still bald and the canyon largely unshaded. Once out of the canyon the trail winds around to Icehouse through shady pines.

Icehouse slog back. First hike in new boots. Hadn't broke them in. Last few miles were painful. Got back to a few cars at the Icehouse CCC TH, but I didn't see any hikers all day.
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Good purples and golds on Toll Road, East Mountain Trail, East Mountain ridgeline, lower Kellner Trail.
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Aug 09 2020
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Pioneer Trail #196Globe, AZ
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JimTriplogs 2,324
Hiking10.00 Miles 3,100 AEG
Hiking10.00 Miles   6 Hrs   30 Mns   1.74 mph
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Two dry summers in a row meant I went out to do this with a zero percent chance of storms and no rain gear. Didn't need it, either, not even close. If anything, it was hot, 93 at the trailhead at 5:15, and warm most of the hike. You can tell the mountain has had barely any rain, as everything looks dry. Lots of dry plants on the Pioneer, and on top trees are losing leaves. Usually it is wet about now.

Up Pioneer, skipped Pinal Peak both times, down Ferndell to Six Shooter, which I took to the Telephone Trail, and once I got to the ridge I turned up that. Partly, because I didn't feel like losing any more elevation, and partly because I thought the trail was higher up, not slightly below. I then went up the ridge to Signal Peak. Someone was playing Peter and the Wolf by flute in the tower, as well as a few other things. I saw no wolves, or bears, FYI. After the brief segments of the Pipeline and Middle trails, I stopped at the exotic trees and the hummingbird feeder collection. The trees are losing leaves due to drought, but are fine. There are fewer hummingbird feeders, and I only saw two birds. Nothing like last July when there were dozens of birds, it seemed. I then went back down the Pioneer. Nice views from the Baldy in the White Mountains, to the Catalinas and Rincons.

Not enough decent routes for me to use or piece together, so I added the AEG from the Pioneer and the Telephone Ridge up to Signal Peak. Might have lost some from the Pipeline and Middle. Miles, is a safe guess.

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 Phoenix, AZ
Sixshooter / Icehouse Canyon, AZ 
Sixshooter / Icehouse Canyon, AZ
 
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ShatteredArmTriplogs 356
Run/Jog13.60 Miles 3,768 AEG
Run/Jog13.60 Miles   4 Hrs   47 Mns   2.84 mph
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I've been wanting to explore Pinal Mountain on foot for quite awhile now, and decided today would be a good day to do it. The plan was to loop Sixshooter and Icehouse.

Had a fairly chilling late morning start, and headed up the reasonably-graded Sixshooter. Creek was flowing, and it surprised me how quickly we hit the coniferous forest. When the trail headed away from the creek, and up the ridge, I couldn't stop remarking about how underrated this trail is. Great views, nice mature forest. Some signs of the forest fire (probably from a couple years ago), but looks like it didn't do too much damage in this area.

Started seeing more snow past the Telephone junction. By the time we hit Ferndell, it was a few inches deep.

Swung around the summit, and headed up a jeep road, thinking it would take us to the summit proper, but it was the wrong one. Oh well, we were probably only 20 vertical feet off. Didn't feel like going through the brush to get there.

Headed down the road to Middle Trail, and took that all the way across to Pineline. Didn't know there were cabins up here! The views from Pineline were some of the best anywhere... You could see everything from the Estrellas all the way over to Baboquivari.

The first couple miles down Icehouse Canyon were fun and steep. There were even mountain bike tracks in the snow... I'm definitely not that brave. The bottom couple miles... not so fun. Boring old Jeep road, but at least it's just a couple miles.

Definitely going to come back here.
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Oct 19 2019
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Pioneer Trail #196Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 19 2019
JimTriplogs 2,324
Hiking9.65 Miles 2,400 AEG
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2,400 ft AEG10 LBS Pack
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My route was almost identical to nightstalker's May-5-18 hike, so I am using his stats. I did a little more road walking to see if the hummingbird feeders and birds were still there, but they were not. Still a lot of flocks of chipper forest birds, mostly what sounded like Chick-a-Dee.

What more or less constitutes a leaf peeping hike, except I didn't fight I-17 and Flagstaff, and it wasn't 39 degrees on top. A very nice relaxed scenic Pinal Hike. Walking towards Pinal Peak after looking for hummingbirds, I went out on FR 651E. I was surprised to see an Atlas or Lebanon Cedar, a Red Pine, a bristlecone Pine, several Giant Sequoias, and possibly a few California ponderosa pines, or Jeffrey or maybe Coulter pines, all planted in an area that might have been a cabin site in the past. The cedar managed to reproduce on the east side of 651E and to the untrained eye it might just look like another Douglas fir. It isn't!

Lots of color that will probably peek in the maples this week, oaks later on. Aspen and walnut also appear near peak, but locust and ash are past. Very enjoyable relaxed hike.
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Maple!

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Mostly wet soil, nothing I think a human could use.
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 Goodyear, AZ
Pinal Signal Peak Loop, AZ 
Pinal Signal Peak Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar May 05 2018
NightstalkerTriplogs 1,740
Hiking9.88 Miles 2,478 AEG
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1st trip
My hiking pals Gallydoll and Dan decided to join me on this loop I put together to beat the PHX heat. Drove out to Globe and then up to Pioneer Pass, the trailhead location. We passed through the NF campground en route and it was over flowing with tents and trucks. With all the people nearby, I was thinking we might not have the solitude I was expecting, but we saw no one on the trail.

We started up Pioneer Trail (signed as Squaw Spring #196) about 7:30am. Very pleasant ascent passing through thick manzanita groves and tall pines. Checked out a fenced off spring near the top of the trail. After reaching the end of trail #196, we worked our way over to Ferndale Trail #204. Standing at the trail sign, Ferndale didn't look too promising, but once we were on it, we were rewarded with a nice stroll through more tall pines. Just before reaching the intersection of Six Shooter and the end of Ferndale, we spied a whitetail deer tracking our movements along the trail.

We turned left onto Six Shooter trail #197 for a short jaunt up to the road and then followed the road out to Signal Peak. I was very disappointed to find that the Fire Lookout Tower is closed to visitors.

We took in the views and returned on the road to Pipeline Trail #193. Pipeline was easy enough to follow, but starting to grow in here and there. After climbing over to a ridgeline, the trail looked like it passed through an engineered break in the fenceline, however, a faint trail, which turned out to be Middle Trail #202, headed east which was more in the direction I was interested in going. Well, faint was the best this trail got. We passed the terminus of Six Shooter and climbed over a bunch of fallen trees to get out to the road.

We followed the road up to Pinal Peak proper, enjoyed the views for a bit and returned the way we came back down Squaw Spring trail. Temps were probably in the 70s on the top, and just over 80 at the trailhead. Sure beats 100+ back in Phoenix. Welcome to summer!

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Met up with Kyle and Chumley and headed out in search of fall colors. We decided to head up into the Pinals. The weather would be cooler and the drive is not too bad. We started hiking on the Sixshooter Trail and headed up. We noticed right away a lot of burn from the fire earlier this year. There will be patchy burn for our entire hike. We continued up and saw some sporadic color as we neared the summit. Once up top we detoured to the east where there’s a ladder for climbing up to a viewpoint. After that we stopped by the peak and then headed over the west side where we took our lunch and enjoyed the views. From there we headed down Icehouse. The going was fairly easy as we enjoyed more sporadic color. We felt we were a week or two early. Temps rose as we neared the bottom and the final mile or two is a chore as you follow an old road that has greatly deteriorated. Once back to the TH we loaded up and headed over to Lost Dutchman State Park for Tibberfest! It was a nice day on the trails.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Moderate
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1st trip
I have no idea what kind of people think that the [ Pinal Mountains 4X Super Loop ] would be fun. That's just crazy talk! :sweat:

Looking at photos from previous years I thought colors would be pretty nice in the Pinals on this weekend, but we were definitely a little early. There was some color above 7000 feet, and even some pockets you might consider to be "prime" at the top, but there was a ton of green even high up and no sign of maples even starting to turn at their lower locations.

So next weekend should be pretty damn good, and two weeks should also be good, though the top will have certainly be past prime by then.

The fire damage was minimal on Sixshooter. Healthy burn with some dead trees surrounded by plenty that look healthy. There was some erosion along the trail but nothing that proved difficult to get by. A little maintenance next year would be good though.

Icehouse was an autumn wonderland up top, but turned green in the lower stretches and farther down entered the severe burn zone. The road at the bottom was a steep, rocky, miserable mess with absoutely no redeeming qualities. Despite the burn, I looked over and saw the singletrack trail cut of the lower Telephone trail and wondered if it wouldn't be a better option to take that trail down from the Doghouse Spring area instead of the Icehouse road. The mileage difference is only 1/10th a mile.

It was a nice day. Good to get back into the Pinals and happy to see the fire didn't get too crazy up in the higher elevation sweet spots.
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Above 7000 feet it was great, but between 5000-7000 there was so much green that it will be better in a week, and probably still nice in two weeks. By then the higher elevations will be past prime though. This is the 2nd weekend in October. I think the 3rd weekend would be best here based on this year's conditions.

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No water at the spring, but just down canyon, there was some light flow and shallow pools

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Good looking water dripping into the springbox

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The mine tunnel was full as was the spring box. Not sure it's safe to drink.
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Nice long dayhike with Chums and 9L. We found some nice patches of color out there and only two groups on the trail-- not counting the cast of Deliverance up top. We saw a couple deer but no other wildlife. I left the dog at home today figuring it would be just a little too toasty for her at the bottom.
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We wanted a moderate hike closer to town & this loop fit the bill. We met off Country Club & the US 60 at 6am and headed for Globe & hit the trail around 7:40am. We started with the Six Shooter Trail and made steady progress as the trail climbs elevation. The first few miles are typical desert and then turn to forest a few miles in. From there we continued climbing into the cool air with plenty of tree cover shading us from the sun.

Once up top we turned to the southeast and headed for Pinal Peak where we had a quick look around and then turned west for Signal Peak. Along the way we followed the Middle Trail & the Pipeline Trail. The views were nice & it was easy going. We took our lunch break on Signal Peak and then cruised down the Icehouse Canyon Trail. The top mile was very scenic and smooth sailing. As we descended we left forest and returned to typical desert conditions. It grew warm & sunny but not too bad on the descent. We got back to the trailhead a little before 2pm and headed back to Phoenix.

This was my first time in The Pinals and I was pleasantly surprised. The trails are in great condition and the upper sections are very scenic. I plan on returning another time to check out the Telephone Trail and Kellner Trail.
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Woke up early, walked uphill for a while, bagged a couple peaks, walked downhill for a while. Good loop.
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Couldn't have been a more beautiful day, start to finish. I was only part of the first half due to time issues, but still totally worth it.

Good catching up with Joe & Bruce, and meeting others for the first time. We went up Telephone Ridge (much better downhill, crimeny that's steep). Brucie, Chandler and I went a little ahead and hit Pinal Peak, the ladder, and covered a few of the little trails on top. So much more to explore up there. Good getting to know Chandler, I have super respect for anyone who serves our country, and he did tours in Iraq & Afghanistan. His love of history is even bigger than mine, so lots to Revolutionary War topics to chat about! I needed to get home, though, and had to leave everyone behind coming down Sixshooter. Chandler took his dogs with him, including one really large white dog Blanco that he picked up from Afghanistan. That dog was so nice, when I took off on the way down ahead of everyone else to get home, Blanco tried to keep up with me. Finally he was a little concerned about his master and turned around to go back to him.

Left 6:17, returned 11:54am.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial
mostly aspen and maple

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Nice and clean
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1st trip
First time hiking in Joe's Pinal-A-Palooza death march.

Met a HAZ'er Grimey-Dave (Great to meet you),
Saw AZDesertfather-Dave for the first time in a long time.
Hiked with Widowmaker-Larry, boywithdogs-Lee again
and finally got to hike in the same direction with rayhouston-Ray

After we got past Joe's shortcut and arrived a smidge late to the TH, we began Hiking a bit after 6:15.

The Telephone Trail #192 is not my favorite trail in the area. If you like a Loose, > Steep, Bulldozer cut, then this is the trail for you. I'm amazed the the power shovel will work on grades like that, without tipping over. ETA for completion the Pinal Mountain Cable Replacement, June 2016 (Just under 3 years total).

Splitting from the group, I led Dave ;) and boywithdogs over to the Pipeline Trail #193 and then the Middle Trail #202 to get to Pinal Peak. We spent a few minutes by the towers and then I wanted to show them the Rock Ladder.

Next it was the Ferndell Trail #204 to meet up with the rest of the gang. First time on this one and it was IMHO the more scenic way to get over to Six Shooter from the peak.

After stopping at Ferndell Spring to water the dogs and himself, Lee and Dave felt the need for speed and decided to run down Six Shooter #197. Never Saw Dave again the rest of the day. Me on the other hand put the camera to work. The foliage was so thick at Ferndell Spring, it almost choked out the light 8). There were a few larger pockets of extreme color, but next weekend should be prime.

I caught up to Joe, Ray, Larry and the Dave (Grimey) on the way down and then Lee at the parking area for some lunch.

Up Icehouse Canyon #198 was a slog until just after the Kellner intersection. That's when we got some much needed shade. The rest of the way up was under the canopy, with more pockets of vibrant color.

Down Kellner Canyon Trail #242 for the first time for me. It was unique from the other trails up there.
Spent a bit of time checking out the big Steel Wheel thingy, Steel plated boiler and some of the other artifacts up top. Great views with the fading sun on the way down and to the truck before dark.

Temps on the day ranged from 53 in the morning, to 92 (sun aided) starting after lunch, back down to 59 up top, to 68 when we finished.

Thanks for putting this together Senior Gumdrop and for driving.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial

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