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North Sonoran Crossover Trail - FHP - 5 members in 10 triplogs have rated this an average 2.6 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Feb 02 2024
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 Arizona
Fountain Hills Preserve, AZ 
Fountain Hills Preserve, AZ
 
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking5.63 Miles 1,405 AEG
Hiking5.63 Miles   1 Hour   59 Mns   2.89 mph
1,405 ft AEG      2 Mns Break
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Jan 01 2024
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 Joined Aug 08 2020
 Phx az
Promenade Trail - FHPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 01 2024
ScaredyCatTriplogs 205
Hiking7.87 Miles 2,006 AEG
Hiking7.87 Miles   3 Hrs   57 Mns   2.14 mph
2,006 ft AEG      16 Mns Break
 
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I normally go out for new years eve and skip hiking on the 1st. However, was rather sick and this was the 1st day I felt capable. The other person wanted to head to the McDowells. I then suggested adero canyon since neither of us had started from that TH B4.

Came up with a route of intermediate length. Met that way at 9:30. Felt chilly at the start with the breeze. Jackets off 2 miles in. Had never hiked North Leg trail previously.

Hit the high point when we were nearly done. Perf difficulty for us since she hadn't done anything major for awhile. Met some cute Doodles along the route.
 
Nov 25 2023
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55 male
 Joined Oct 24 2010
 Phoenix,Az
North Sonoran Crossover Trail - FHPPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 25 2023
mt98dewTriplogs 2,387
Hiking4.91 Miles 330 AEG
Hiking4.91 Miles   1 Hour   39 Mns   2.98 mph
330 ft AEG
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First hike of a “Daily Double”. I wanted to get a hike involving this connector trail. Started from the Ardero TH just after 6am. Still dark out, but since I was starting on the Promenade Trail (which is more road than trail), I was good without a light. By the time I got to the Sonoran trail it more than light enough to follow the single track. Started off on the Lower Sonoran and took that to the northern crossover trail. Then took the upper Sonoran trail back to the Promenade. It’s been awhile since I’ve done these trails. I was surprised at how smooth the Lower Sonoran trail was compared to the Upper Sonoran. The Lower is also much more gradual in how it addresses elevation change, whereas the Upper is very aggressive with how it attacks the slopes. Easy lasso. Only saw 2 hikers near the end. Wildlife….quail and rabbits. Construction is booming out there. I wonder how long before we are hiking through people’s backyards. On that note….hiking in on the Lower Sonoran I entered a ravine and thought I could hear running water. Didn’t see any water. As I was exiting the ravine, I could see a home just east of the ravine and I figured out that the sound I was hearing was the gurgling of the pool pump. :lol:
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Jul 23 2023
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 Joined Nov 17 2008
 phoenix, az
Sunrise Peak from Adero Canyon THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 23 2023
trekkin_geckoTriplogs 4,660
Hiking11.11 Miles 2,200 AEG
Hiking11.11 Miles   3 Hrs   52 Mns   2.99 mph
2,200 ft AEG      9 Mns Break
 
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john and i got going from adero canyon trailhead around 0440
headlamps for ten minutes
nice sunrise along andrews kinsey trail
shared sunrise peak with three other people
back on andrews kinsey to the western loop trail
hit the little peak at the saddle, then down to promenade
did a modified sonoran loop combo, cutting to lower sonoran trail on the north crossover
finished up on promenade
temps were fine with the early start
had a breeze at times and a bit of cloud cover
my mileage was quite a bit less than john's, splitting the difference
save/share aeg seemed low, using an average estimate on that too
this was a nice combo and i would do it again with the full sonoran loop
we ran into @dixieflyer as he was going up andrews kinsey to sunrise
nice to see you again wade :)
breakfast at dj's after the hike, home by 1015
thanks, john
good times!
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Jul 23 2023
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 chandler,az
Sunrise Peak from Adero Canyon THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 23 2023
johnlpTriplogs 5,208
Hiking11.22 Miles 2,200 AEG
Hiking11.22 Miles   3 Hrs   52 Mns   3.02 mph
2,200 ft AEG      9 Mns Break
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Kelly suggested hiking from Adero, which sounded like a nice break from Somo.
Pretty dark out there when we started, so we used our headlamps for a brief while. Seemed a little cooler than yesterday, but with a bit more humidity.
We started by hiking up Sunrise Peak then took Western Loop north making a loop out of the Sonoran and Promenade trails. All nice trails out here.
Ran into @dixieflyer on his way to the peak. Good to see you Wade.
Saw a baby tiger rattlesnake on the top of Peak 3098.
Coffee and breakfast for the birthday girl after the hike. Good times. Thanks Kelly. :)
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Jan 02 2023
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 Joined Jan 07 2017
 Fountain Hills,
Adero Super Loop, AZ 
Adero Super Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jan 02 2023
DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,375
Hiking20.24 Miles 3,661 AEG
Hiking20.24 Miles   7 Hrs   48 Mns   2.87 mph
3,661 ft AEG      45 Mns Break
 
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For my first hike of the year, I decided to stay close to home and get a few miles in.

The weather was nice and cool for most of the hike, although the sun came out for a bit about half way through the hike which warmed things up a bit.

I didn't see anyone until I got up to Bell Pass, and then there were a few people out on the trail the closer that I got to the Gateway TH. Once past the Gateway Loop I mostly had the trail to myself again.

This isn't the most exciting hike in the world, but it was a nice day to be outside!
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I saw a few chuparosa blooming, but that was about it. The saguaros look fat and happy.
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Feb 19 2022
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 Joined Jan 28 2010
 Fountain Hills,
Peak 3804-McDowells, AZ 
Peak 3804-McDowells, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Feb 19 2022
FLYING_FLIVERTriplogs 293
Hiking6.48 Miles 2,028 AEG
Hiking6.48 Miles   5 Hrs   3 Mns   1.82 mph
2,028 ft AEG   1 Hour   29 Mns Break
 
My plan was to go to Adero Canyon TH, in Fountain Hills, and hike around for only an hour or so, due to time constraints.
After 45 minutes into my "limited time" hike, I got a phone call negating my constraint.

So …… what to do ……. .
I looked around and surveilled the taller of "The Twins", Peak 3804, and decided to go up and revisit the peak.

This would be my 6th time up Pk 3804, with the first time being over 20 years ago.

That "20 years ago" hike up Pk 3804 was before most of the FH trails were developed in the McDowels. I remember (20 years ago), following an 'almost invisible' jeep track that ended at the base of the peak. I wandered a bit past the jeep track, closer to the 'up' portion of the mountain, and located a vague, narrow, hike-track that led up a ridge. I'm sure it's never been maintained, and it probably predates FH's existence.

The first 5 times up Pk 3804 were all the same, as far as following the tiny, switchback track. Yes, it's steep, but I always had good footing, and never got off track. And yes, vegetation was plentiful, but that little track always seemed intuitively easy to follow.

However this 6th time up Pk 3804 was much different.
Since I hiked it last, the vegetation has really taken over. Mostly it's the 1 to 1 & 1/2 foot dense grasses, all the way up, and on top also.

The tall grass changed the hike in two ways.
#1 - The grasses obscure the ground from view, including alot of the, tiny trail.
#2 - The few hikers that go up Pk 3804 get 'off trail' and flatten the ridge grass while off the trail, then wander around to relocate the trail. It makes the ridge appear to have 'tons-of trails'.

With the steepness, that grass is more slippery than scree. It's like walking on 50 to 60 degree angled ice. Coming back down was OK, as long as I stayed on the trail, which I didn't.
HA - I knew instantly, when I was off trail coming down. I had no grip at all on that grass.

The top of Pk 3804 is a bit wider and longer than a tennis court, and has a big cairn in the center. I believe there used to be a flag in the cairn, years ago.

(I think it was Mazatzal that mentioned he hiked up 3804, years before I did, then took a right turn, and hiked 3 peaks away to Thompson Peak - I also think he mentioned the flag)

At one end of the top, there used to be an almost complete circle made of boulders. Possibly a wind break, or campsite, or whatever.
Well, on this hike, I thought 'the boulder circle' was gone. I was wrong.

When I got home and compared my 2014 hike photos with this hike, I discovered,
Yes - The "circle of boulders" is still there, but almost out-of-sight, due to the long flowing grass.
The grass makes the whole top look different.

I'm glad I got the phone call, so I could say "Hello" to the top of Pk 3804 again.
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Feb 06 2022
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 Fountain Hills,
Adero Canyon TH-Wander, AZ 
Adero Canyon TH-Wander, AZ
 
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FLYING_FLIVERTriplogs 293
Hiking5.90 Miles 1,266 AEG
Hiking5.90 Miles   3 Hrs   15 Mns   2.36 mph
1,266 ft AEG      45 Mns Break
 
I did not have a totally open day today, so I stayed local, and wandered all over the place, from Adero Canyon Trailhead.

Even with a full TH parking lot, on this Sunday, I still didn't see more than about ten hikers on the trails I chose to wander.
Maybe all those TH cars were full of people just looking out the window at the mountains. - 😀

Anyway, a very nice hike on something called "trails". A good change-up.
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 Fountain Hills,
Adero Super Loop, AZ 
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,375
Hiking19.93 Miles 4,069 AEG
Hiking19.93 Miles   7 Hrs   38 Mns   2.87 mph
4,069 ft AEG      42 Mns Break
 
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It was a mostly cloudy day today, so I decided to stay close to home and do this hike to get some miles in.

I did another CCW loop starting and ending at the Adero Canyon TH in Fountain Hills. The desert looks really green right now, which will hopefully lead to a nice spring wildflower season in the coming weeks.

There is nothing remarkable about this hike, but it was a pleasant hike with not many people on the trails.
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Jan 19 2022
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Adero Super Loop, AZ 
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,375
Hiking20.24 Miles 4,083 AEG
Hiking20.24 Miles   8 Hrs   14 Mns   2.79 mph
4,083 ft AEG      58 Mns Break
 
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I wanted to get out and stretch my legs a bit today and decided to do this hike. It is not the most exciting hike in the world, but it is close to home and is a good workout.

There was some nice cloud cover for the first 6-7 miles, but then the sun came out. Thankfully later in the afternoon there was some shade on the east side of some hills.

There weren't many people out on the hike, so I mostly had the trails to myself.
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A few chuparosa were blooming, but that was it for any flowers. There were some very healthy looking brittlebush and ocotillo, which generates optimism for a nice spring wildflower season!
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