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Oct 20 2025
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69 male
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Inner Basin to Hump Saddle, AZ 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,803
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We headed North to catch the last bit of color of the Inner Basin.

The road to the Inner Basin is still closed, so it's an added 3.1-mile road walk each way to access the trailhead (TH). The walk went quickly enough, and it definitely helped keep the peeper traffic down.

The aspens in the area from the TH to the Waterline Road are still popping for the most part. There is plenty on the ground, but that just adds to the ambiance. They should be good through the weekend at least.

Once on the Waterline, they are still showing off until things open up by the Bus Stop area. Those aspens are completely void of leaves.

The road from the bus stop heading west out of the meadow has been recently graded, filling in all of the washout crevices that used to exist. The beginning of the Inner Basin has also been fixed and was not as rough as it used to be.

We cruised on the Weatherford Trail, making our way to the Humphreys Saddle where we took in the views and had some lunch. The peak was not in the cards; our excuse was the amount of available daylight.

We traced our steps back to the TH, finishing at dusk.

Nice temps throughout. We passed a smattering of people on our road walk up. On the way down, in the aspens, we passed a mother with two children (who without a doubt finished in the dark), and a few bikes passed us.

Good to get in this classic fall hike and catch up with Joe-Joe the wonder chimp.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial
Aspens in the area from the TH to the Waterline road are still strong. Lots-o-leave litter on the ground adds to the experience. Aspens in the Bus Stop area have long lost their luster.

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Humphreys Saddle via Inner Basin, AZ 
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We hiked in via the closed road to Lockett Meadow and only crossed paths with a few all day. The saddle was only lightly occupied by younger folks who opted for the shorter tree root approach.

The forecasted 24 mph gust only panned out on two small stretches before the saddle. Phenomenally perfect weather otherwise. Two to three small hints of nearly gone snow or ice between the bus stop and Weatherford.

A fat-tire bike was recently ridden to the crossover saddle before heading down to Humphrey Saddle. We saw the tread imprint intermittently in the soft surface heading up from Inner Basin.

A delightful day hike sans post-hike cramping.
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Ending soon. There are patches of leafless Aspen's from high winds and recent weeks. The majority is winding down.
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Guessing on the mileage... Did a lollipop from Abineau over to Lockett. With a San Juans trip coming up, I wanted to land around 15 miles and 2,500’ gain. I think I made that happen. Trails were busy as expected, still a bit early for the area, but Waterline was prime.
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Waterline north of Lockett over to Abineau/Bear Jaw is prime.
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Inner Basin Trail #29Flagstaff, AZ
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Inner Basin Trail #29Flagstaff, AZ
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In flagstaff for a few days and it’s sweltering anywhere else than going above 10000 feet. I had been up humphreys from snowbowl last summer but wanted to try from this side. I was unaware that the road to the trailhead is closed 3 miles below the trailhead, great… I quickly realized I was not going to Humphrey’s today and wanted to reach a different peak. It’s absolutely hell going straight up the mountain at 9000 ft elevation. I contemplated but ended up tapping out at Doyle Saddle. Views from the valley below of the mountains made the trip worth it. Was a bit above 19 miles when I was back and did some circles to get from 20.
 
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Rees - Abineau - Inner Basin Loop, AZ 
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I started from the Abineau-Bear Jaw TH around 6AM with the goal of hitting Rees and Abineau Peaks. I'd checked out a @ddgrunning route from July'21 [ photoset ] that was ~10.5 miles and hit both peaks, along with a longer @LJW figure-eight from Oct'22 [ photoset ] that included both peaks and dropped down to the Inner Basin. Depending on time and how I was feeling, I figured I'd decide on the final route once I was on Abineau.

The forest was almost eerily quiet as I started up Abineau, and a few elk scattered early on. The trail gains ~1,800' over the first two and a half miles to Waterline, then it was easy hiking on the highway over to the Bear Jaw intersection, where I left the trail to head up to Rees. There was quite a bit of deadfall to navigate early on, followed by a long scree slope before I reentered the forest and passed a few patches of snow on the way up to Rees. The views from the summit were impressive but partially obstructed by trees.

Next up was Abineau, roughly a half mile away with some steep and rocky sections. The 360° views were fantastic, and I took a snack break at the summit and signed the register. I dropped down the ridge on the NW side of the summit to check out the B-17 wreckage about a third of a mile down. I found quite a few metal scraps, but mostly small pieces and none of it recognizable as specific plane parts to a non-expert like me...I'm sure I only saw a fraction of what was out there if I'd spent more time exploring.

It wasn't 10AM yet, so with plenty of time remaining, I decided on the longer route and hiked back up to the ridge and then west toward Humphreys before dropping down toward Beard Spring/Beard Canyon. That was a very steep, loose descent that required some effort to avoid ending up at the bottom of the mountain in ~10 seconds, and I ended up with a few extra pounds in my boots after surfing/sliding down in the deep dirt and rock. Flat, solid ground was very welcome when that was over.

I followed some roads and drainages over to the deserted Inner Basin and explored that area a little before turning around to get back on Waterline and circle around the east side of the mountain. A maintenance worker near one of the pump houses was the first person I'd seen all day. It was easy hiking along Waterline with some nice views from the rare gaps in the trees. I connected with Bear Jaw to finish off the figure-eight a little after 1PM and only saw two hikers the whole day, both fairly close to the trailhead at the end. Overall, a really enjoyable hike with a mix of on- and off-trail, a few peaks, great views, a crash site, and very few people.

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Oct 12 2024
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 Mesa, AZ
Inner Basin Trail #29Flagstaff, AZ
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Another trip to Arizona's version of Mini-Colorado - The Inner Basin!

Looking at pictures that people have posted earlier in the week, it appeared this might be the last weekend to see the peak colors.

FS 522 is still closed going up to Lockett Meadow. That's 3 miles each way plus adding 850+ ft of aeg going in. Easy hiking along a road, but it's still up, up, up until you get near the meadow.

We arrived a little before 7am and the little parking lot was already full. We had to park along the road. We started up and it was a little chilly. I layered up and we starting hiking up the hill. About a mile in, it was time to shed the layer. We came across 4-5 groups going up and 1 guy already heading down.

The meadow looked like a ghost town. A far cry from the normal circus I have experienced in the past. Signs of the fire were very clear as soon as you start up. Burnt trees everywhere. The new growth aspens got it a little as well. We could see some colors, but the fire damage was everywhere until it wasn't.

Once we started hitting the aspen groves, we could see a mix of colors - yellow/gold, green, orange (that was new) and leafless tree. It looks like the crazy weather we've had really messed up the autumnal transition this year.

As we started getting up higher, the colors were really nice. The switchback area was peaking. I've seen it nicer, but it was classic Inner Basin. We hiked to Waterline Road and went down a little and that was the best color, light and scenery for sure.

There were quite a few people up on the road and going up and down along the switchbacks. Considering the effort to get up there, I was surprised by how many people did make it.

We had a little lunch, took our 10k pictures and started back down. We both noticed the steady stream of hikers coming up. The skies were clear and it was warmer than I expected. When we made to the road, we really started seeing people coming up. Most of these people were mostly casual hikers and had no or very little water, lots of kids and it must have been "Inner Basin Doggie Day" as we saw tons of dogs. I am guessing most of these people didn't make it all the way. I am also guessing some regretted bringing the kiddo's and no water.

When we got back to the car, the were 100's of cars, spilling out of the little parking lot and stretching both ways all along 522. It was the same usual circus this place brings, just 3 miles north.

The Inner Basin is a special trail. It's stunning, especially during the Leaf-peeping weeks. I think an overnight backpacking trip would be a good way to see it. We did see a few campers at the camping ground doing just that. Once the road opens, it will be back to crazy for sure
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Humphreys Saddle, AZ 
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Roughly 9 vehicles at the impromptu gate-trailhead. Easy 3.25mi walk to the trailhead.

The road is closed because there is a gate and a potential washout spot that was not currently being worked on.

I twisted Bruce's arm suggesting we skip the peak today due to the bonus road walk. He hemmed and hawed and said thank-god.

From the TH to the empty saddle we passed one guy. Calm pleasant day, if warm for October. The mammoth ditch-trail stretch up from the bus stop shelter has been graded smooth.

Lunched at the saddle netting another 4 hikers and one runner that must have knocked out the Kachina Loop quickly.

Enjoyed the nice hike down, passing 39 fellow autumn enthusiast in the lower portion.
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The light side of substantial, one area was really nice when the light hit.
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A few here and there
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Time to get our fix of golden goodness. Joe picked the destination; I threw out some alternative approaches, shortening the mileage added by the FR552 road closure. In the end, we stuck to the added 3.15 miles x 2 to the IB TH on FR552, being unclear of the private property implications of my alternate routes. Checking today, it looks like we made the correct choice.

At the intersection of FR552/FR552A is the makeshift parking area. I was a bit surprised that there were 15+ vehicles parked on a Thursday morning to make the hike to and into the IB. Based on some of the hikers we passed, not all made it to the golden destination.

The IB had a few campsites occupied (many more when we returned), complete with blazing fires in the frigid 55-degree temps.




Inner Basin Trail #29

The aspens are about at prime right now. Some trees had emptied their autumnal load; others were still green. After a short break at the "Bus Stop" to stash some liquid for the return, we headed up the recently graded trail through the meadow. The 1.25-mile climb from the end of the meadow to the Weatherford Trail is one of my least favorite sections of trail in the peaks and seems to drag on forever. It is a necessary evil to get to one of my favorite sections of trail in the state.




Weatherford Trail #102

The climb from the saddle between Fremont and Agassiz (Doyle Saddle or Fremont Saddle, depending on the map you look at) is the highlight for me. We passed by Lunch Rock and made our way down to the empty Humphreys Saddle for a bit of lunch. We saw only one person from the IB TH to this point.
We returned the way we came, enjoying the views of the sunlit aspens. There were quite a few more people on the return after we got off the Waterline Trail and onto the IB Trail proper. Many of these would not make it back to their cars before dark.

Temps/weather were perfect all day in the 50s and 60s.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial
Pretty much prime. Some was on the ground, some were still green
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Inner Basin to Doyle PeakFlagstaff, AZ
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Hiking10.76 Miles 3,407 AEG
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After the disaster of riding my bike to the trailhead, I started my hike totally depleted of energy and stamina. Apparently oxygen isn't a thing here either. It was slow going and I had continual thoughts of where and when to call it a day and turn around. Somehow I carried on.

There were a handful of people on 29, but nothing obnoxious. Above the waterline road, I didn't see another soul over the next 5 and a half hours of trudgery. As was the case last year, the water department has graded every old two track to Prius quality. This includes the former cavern that was once the trail from the bus stop up to the 10k contour.

Knowing that stretch of trail is giving Y-bar a run for its money, I stayed in the drainage and climbed to Doyle spring before cutting over to the trail again. I think the stretch of 102 from the 29 junction down to the saddle is my least traveled stretch. Usually when I'm here I go up and add Fremont too. But having done that a couple of months ago I headed over to Doyle.

The view of the inner basin from 11,060 in fall is perhaps my favorite scene in the state. Of course to get there now requires a depressing traverse of absolute maximum heat destruction. It is what it is. No going back now.

The top is still neutralized with nary a blade of grass pushing through the ash yet. Lower down, some horribly unhealthy and sickly aspen are making it a bit of a bushwhack to get through. I spooked two sets of elk including a huge buck and 3 bulls, followed by another harem of ladies half a mile later.

I made the pre-planned but idiotic decision to cut some mileage and drop off the ridgeline straight down to the waterline road near the edge of the burn boundary. The steepitude of this slope cannot be understated. 1010 do not recommend.

Skipped like Dorothy along the yellow-brick road to the former no-molestation station before opting for the old upper 552 two-track back to Lockett for a different view and fewer afternoon peepers.

An additional 3 miles on foot would not have been particularly enjoyable, so I was happy to find my bike where I left it, with two fully inflated tires ready to roll.
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Inner Basin Trail #29Flagstaff, AZ
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Locket Meadow Inner Basin, AZ 
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Ginny and I went on a 10 day excursion to Northern Arizona, Utah and New Mexico. Our first stop was in Flagstaff. Arrived in Flagstaff about 0900 and headed to the East side of Humphreys Peak to hike the Inner Basin Trail. The road to Locket Meadow was closed so we had to hike the road 3.25 miles to get to the Inner Basin Trail. It was an uphill Road walk but the air was clear and the aspens in full color so it was a pleasant breathtaking (literally) walk. From Locket Meadow we took the Inner Basin Trail 2.5 miles to Jack Smith Spring. After a short break we headed back down. Today’s hike was 11.4 miles with about 2000 feet AEG.
The hike along the inner Basin Trail has one of the best stands of aspen trees I have ever seen and they were at the peak of their color. It is amazing how a forest that can be dark from tree cover suddenly becomes very bright with the yellow light from the trees. After a short break we had to head back due to lack of time. The trail continues on up into the inner basin of the San Francisco Peaks but we will have to do this another time when the Road to Locket Meadow is open. My daughter and I hiked all the way up to Doyle Saddle (elev 11300) a few years back but doing that today would have made this a 17 mile hike.
There was no water in any of the creeks along the trail but that’s not too uncommon for these mountains as the water sinks in the ground quite rapidly. The views to the east along this trail and the road are quite spectacular.
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Inner Basin Cirque HikeFlagstaff, AZ
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As always, the inner basin of the San Francisco Peaks is a gem of autumn. Unlike always, it is significantly more pleasant because the road to Lockett Meadow is closed to motor vehicles (there's really no logical reason for this, as it's in the best condition of my lifetime, but I'm not complaining). This results in not completely deserted enjoyment, but significantly reduced amusement park atmosphere.

We started up 151 and continued beyond the bus stop before cutting across toward the road up to snowslide spring. In addition to the still closed 522, the FS (or perhaps Flag Water Co) has cleared and graded ALL the roads in the inner basin. If legal, you could drive a prius to any destination on the map. It's really quite something to see, though I'm not entirely sure I'm thrilled about the recent improvements.

Work at the molestation snow shed had an open spring box with running water, and a broken pipe farther up in the bowl resulted in that rare treat of a running stream. The colors are a week later than what I expected. Still plenty of green, especially down low. Still no shortage of golden hues to be found.
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A week early. Lower stretches mostly green. Better patches of solid gold higher up.
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Inner Basin Trail #29Flagstaff, AZ
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We set out pretty early to see the aspen Grove lockett meadow inner basin. Knowing the road in was closed and would have to hike in we decided to hike in on the other side of sugar loaf instead of the road and loop it out on the road. Aspens as always were beautiful, the burn area was pretty sad. The road out took a hard hit with the retaining walls and bracing washed out. It was a lovely morning with friends.
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Humphreys Over-n-Back to the Bus Stop, AZ 
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The_Retired_Eagle and I did an over and back to the bus stop. Perhaps an emergency storm shelter but we've always called it the bus stop. The trailhead was maybe half full on this Thursday will autumn in full swing.

Aspen in the lower meadow blazed yellow from bottom to top. Entering the tree cover somebody had to pee(could have been me). Lost track of the eagle until 2.65 mi up. Altitude or something hit me good. I was finding it hard to move quicker than a four-eyed snail by the time we got to the saddle.

Figured I'd reevaluate before heading down at the Weatherford / Inner Basin junction but missed that and kept going. We lunched near the bus stop. One couple came up from below and took a break in a nearby field but that was it for hikers down below. Aspen foliage was past prime, a nice deeper color, and most of the leaves intact. There was one small patch in prime but it all looked better from back up at the saddle.

Inner Basin Trail below the switchbacks to the bus stop seemed ridiculously rocky heading down, yet easier to negotiate on the return ascending.

Two aspirin, half of a bagel sandwich, good company, or all of the above and I felt fine heading back.

Bruce met and chatted with Craig Romano on the upper Weatherford switchbacks after saying hi to him earlier in the day. He has written almost three dozen books, found @ https://craigromano.com

Returning across the ski slope meadow it was packed with sunset explorers and the trailhead was full. Turned out to be a really nice day with perfect weather. By lucky circumstance, I experienced and later figured out a major bug in Route Scout that caused it to lock up on boot and was impossible for those experiencing the issue to submit a debug report. Should have an update out in days.

The opportunity to hike three favorites up north in five days is most appreciated: thx to all!
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Autumn Foliage Observation Moderate
Extreme below ski lifts at snowbowl. Several days past prime in Inner Basin
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A few dandelions that nobody seeks
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Oct 13 2022
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Humphreys Over-n-Back to the Bus Stop, AZ 
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Joe threw out 3 suggestions. He normally ranks them and always seems to have one that he advertises as "You probably won't want to do this one". Quite often I take that as a challenge.

The real colors of the day were on the way up Snowbowl Road. Parking at Aspen Corner and the area around there was packed and rightfully so, the aspens were poppin.

We started with Temps in the 30's at a half filled TH. Humphreys Summit Trail is my least favorite way up. But there are few legal options currently. With it being a Thursday, traffic on the trail was light.

At the saddle, we started up then down Weatherford. My favorite part of the day. Open views with clear skies. The IB trail is rocky, rocky, rocky.

Lunch at the bus stop and we saw our only 2 people in the IB. We had an option to hike further towards Lockett Meadow, but we both decided we'd had enough and would run out of daylight if we ventured further.

So back the way we came. In the Snowbowl meadow, we hit the golden hour almost perfect. There had to be 50+ people hiking or sitting in lawn chairs waiting for the sun to disappear.
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Oct 12 2022
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 Tempe, AZ
Pipeline Fire Scar, AZ 
Pipeline Fire Scar, AZ
 
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chumleyTriplogs 2,011
Hiking17.81 Miles 5,447 AEG
Hiking17.81 Miles   9 Hrs   4 Mns   2.14 mph
5,447 ft AEG      44 Mns Break
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Notice: Super long triplog and obnoxious photo dump! Intentionally posted excessive detail to share as much of the Pipeline scar as possible.
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After Saturday's 22-mile sufferfest around the north side of the peaks I wanted to take advantage of the near-perfect seasonal colors, lack of typical crowds here, and the minimally publicized end to the area closure, to check out the devastation firsthand.

With the forecast calling for rain and wind by the weekend, I figured it would be good to take advantage of the perfect weather today. In fact, after the cold wind, flurries, and socked-in peaks four days ago, the blue skies today were somewhat ... bland!

After a quick gander at driving 9129D to Alto Spring it became apparent that walking the 552 would be eternally faster. What's an extra 6 miles and 1000 feet on a day like this!? ](*,) There were 3 other cars parked at the gate. I could have easily made the drive, but I can see how the roadbed is too unstable to reopen without some extensive culvert reconstruction and erosion prevention. It'll be interesting to see how this progresses.

Lockett Meadow was in great shape, as we saw from the Waterline Road on Saturday. All the camp sites are fully intact and ready for enjoyment. It was odd to experience this place in autumn gold without another soul in sight.

I was unprepared for the matchsticks that the first quarter mile of #29 now passes through. It is complete and total destruction. But the trail cuts through the scar quickly and emerges into the untouched forest as the remaining trail climbing to the waterline road are as pristine as ever. And today was absolutely perfect for aspen colors; the best I've ever seen them! :)

Above the waterline it was amazing to see how quickly the aspens had progressed from just four days earlier. These trees had lost significant amounts of leaves and looked drab compared to the vibrant yellows just a short distance away. We saw our only other hikers on the trail sitting at the bus stop. They had come over from Snowbowl, and were headed back that way.

We made quick work up the ankle-buster road before hitting Weatherford and climbing up to the saddle. Off-trail to the summit of Fremont is as it has always been, untouched by fire. As LJW reported a couple of weeks ago, this is where things change significantly.

The trip down the ridge to Fremont Saddle follows the burn perimeter, sometimes in untouched forest and others in ash and char. Fire rings remain at the saddle campsites, but everything else is gone. The climb up to Doyle is severely burned. Climbing it was a challenge, descending it might be more of a buttslide. If wet, bring a sled. The ground was always a little bit loose and gravelly here, now it's just ash and dried ash-mud. The bristlecones are just blackened skeletons.

To nobody's surprise, the rudimentary cabin structure just below the peak was completely destroyed. The corrugated roofing materials lay in a heap, collapsed as the wooden structure which supported it no longer exists. Countless nails, the door hinges, and some remnants of metal tools are still in the rubble, but not much else.

At the high point, the summit cairn still held two summit register jars. A plastic jar had melted into the register paper inside, and I made no attempt to remove it. The glass jar survived and the paper inside was charred from the heat. But it survived and is still usable.

From Doyle we headed down the ridge toward the ridge that leads to Schultz. This area is moonscape. It appears that the fire did not burn east of the Schultz Peak ridge (which had previously burned), and there were pockets of unburned (this time) terrain as we headed downhill. North of the 10,569 ridge, the damage was extensive once again. There was a new rain gauge placed here presumably to help warn the downstream neighborhoods of imminent flooding.

As we progressed down the ridge, the damage was total. It wasn't until shortly before reaching the Waterline Road that we started to encounter aggressive aspen sprouts and even a couple of little mosaic islands of unburned mature aspen groves. As we crossed Waterline it was clear that the north slope into the Inner Basin was torched, but the south side meadows down toward Doney Park appeared to be largely untouched, despite being within the perimeter scar.

The views looking up from here were beautiful, with golden fall colors carpeting the entire inner basin. The late afternoon sun prevented us from getting any quality photos.

After returning to Lockett Meadow we began the trip back down the road and caught up with a pair of hikers from Flagstaff who we chatted with for the final mile down to the closure gate.

I might need a hiking break after these last two! It was great to get up and hit the fall colors and get into the fire scar up close, but it's definitely a bittersweet experience. Glad to see what still stands, but sad at what doesn't. Thanks to N for getting out there with me, it was a good day.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Extreme
Prime time in the Inner Basin. It doesn't get any better than this!
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Oct 08 2022
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Sufferfest 22, AZ 
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chumleyTriplogs 2,011
Hiking22.23 Miles 4,467 AEG
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I came up with this plan a month or so ago to take advantage of the pipeline closure area and hopefully hit some seasonal highlights. I had two weekends in mind, and we ended up choosing this over next. It didn't earn this name until it started snowing and we had only made it 20% of the way :sweat: .

In the time since making the plan, CNF updated the closure area, making it a little bit easier to get up here, but we decided to stick to the plan anyway.

Ryan and I drove up Friday and camped in Hart Prairie. The aspens were lemon-lime and the peaks took on some afternoon clouds above 11k which did not break for the next 3 days. We met up with SlowandBi9L :o at Snowbowl in the morning. It was a little bit jarring to my mental psyche exactly how many vehicles were already at the trailhead at this somewhat early hour! This is exactly the feces this planned route was supposed to avoid! ](*,)

Nonetheless, the handful of groups we encountered were quickly forgotten as we made steady progress uphill. We hit the cloud deck at around 11k, and it provided obscured views and some unexpected snow flurries. At the saddle we attempted to take a break, but the wind was miserable and the temps in the cloud and snow dropped to 34, so we put some effort into getting over to the basin and drop some elevation as quickly as we could. (None among us felt the need to add any mileage today to visit a peak we've all been to for the 50-feet views we would be blessed with!)

Near the bottom of the long Weatherford switchbacks we dropped below the clouds and got our first glimpses of the golden basin below. After a short stop at Doyle Saddle, we headed down 29, which has eroded into a rockfest that makes me reconsider my previous opinion of Y-Bar.

We encountered the basin's only other hikers hikers near the bus stop enjoying fall colors and some mushrooms. From here we took a delightfully tibberlike stroll across the Waterline over to Bear Jaw (lots of stops for photos). These 3 or 4 miles were the prime color spots on the day and made all the suffering worth it.

The crux was always going to be the 2 miles from ABJ to AZT. A mile or so was easily maneuvered via old two tracks and some pleasant meadows, but sort of as expected there was some slow going with thick forest and deadfall linking together with random elk tracks before reaching the AZT.

A few miles of mild uphill with great views and stunning autumn things brought us back to the start where dozens of tourists were enjoying the sunset views across Hart Prairie.

It got chilly fast as the sun disappeared and after a long day we went our separate ways to partake of food and beverage as a well-earned reward after this big loop in the Kachina Peaks Wilderness.

I'd actually like to see the FS establish a route between ABJ and AZT as I believe that the Flagstaff trail running population would really enjoy this loop without the extra mileage and annoyance of a few miles on the 418. Not holding my breath.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial
A couple spots in the upper IB past prime. Waterline and upper Bear Jaw perfect. Snowbowl, Aspen Corner, Nature Loop pockets of gold, but still a lot of green.
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Oct 08 2022
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Sufferfest 22, AZ 
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Long loop around Humphreys but fun. We started from Snowbowl parking lot with the masses unfortunately but they thinned out as we ascended. By the time we reached the summit saddle we were in the clouds and a light snow was falling. Wind was brutal on the saddle so we quickly descended down the Weatherford trail and away from the masses. Continued on Weatherford to Inner Basin and since the road was partly closed the usual crowds were not an issue.

Stopped at the pumphouse for a break after enjoying some fall color in the basin. Then continued on the Waterline road to enjoy some more fall color. Very nice hiking on the road and great way to enjoy the foliage. Eventually we made it to the Bear Jaw turn off and descended down to the parking lot.

From there the not fun began. We had about 2 miles of off trail to where it meets the AZT. Lots of down trees and general messiness to hike through but eventually reached the AZT and nice trail.

AZT was a fast track back to Snowbowl with some fall color and late day sun made views over Hart Prairie scenic. Reached Snowbowl parking lot as it was getting dark and quite cold. Full day with the long loop!
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