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Snowshed & Greenhouse LoopTucson, AZ
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1st trip
I had the opportunity to get away for an overnight, and I've been wanting to try the east side of the Chiricahuas for a long time. The stars aligned and off I went!

I had planned on being at the trailhead by 10 on Friday, but things didn't work out and I got out of town late. For some reason I didn't want to drive to Herb Martyr campground with a battery that was mostly dead (as in, slightly alive). So I stopped to get a new one on the way out of town.

I started hiking from Herb Martyr just before noon. My goal was to reach Aspen Saddle to camp, which is about the halfway point on the Snowshed/Greenhouse loop.

Herb Martyr Trail
This trail was in pretty good shape. The weekend I went was a major heatwave with the valleys reaching 105; it was probably in the low 80s when I started hiking. The middle section of Herb Martyr follows an exposed ridge and man was it toasty. I hiked like a lizard, zipping between shady spots. The latter half of the trail was a super steep climb, but it was treed and therefore more tolerable. It got a little overgrown close to the junction with Snowshed, and erosion has definitely been taking its toll on tread quality up there.

Snowshed Trail
At the trail junction with Snowshed, the sign for Herb Martyr was missing. Well, pieces of it were here and there, but nothing legible. The Snowshed sign, however, was in perfect condition.

Snowshed was in fabulous condition from the junction with Herb Martyr until after just after Pine Park. This amounted to about 1/8 mile of piney greatness. The remainder of the trail to the Crest alternated between exposed scree and a bushwhack through overgrown shrubbery of various persuasions, and not all friendly. Between loose rocks and dense overgrowth the trail was a little treacherous in places. Nonetheless the trail was followable, until the approach to Snowshed Saddle where it pretty much disappeared. Pink flagging tape at the saddle was helpful.

Snowshed needs love, a lot of love. But it's worthy, with pretty incredible views along its length that just get better as you go.

I definitely underestimated how the heat and the challenging trail would slow me down. I didn't make it to the Crest and Juniper Spring until about 6pm, which was sunset. I didn't have time to collect water, hike the 3/4 mile or so to Aspen Saddle, and pitch a tent before dark. I was also pretty tired, and Juniper Saddle was gorgeous. So I collected water at the spring and hiked to a flat spot on the ridge below, carpeted with wildflowers and featuring a stunning view of Rucker Canyon.

While setting up camp I realized that I thought I had packed my tent, poles, and ground sheet, but instead had packed my rain fly, poles, and ground sheet. No tent. Whoops. So I had to cowboy camp on a perfectly temperate, cloudless, moonless night staring at a blanket of stars. I regretted packing the poles and rain fly more than I regretted forgetting the tent!

I woke very well rested to a stunning panorama of Rucker Canyon, totally stoked that I didn't make it to Aspen Saddle.

Juniper Spring
See my water report.

Crest 270C
At first the trail was very, very faint but followable. It was almost gone south of Eagle Spring. Between Eagle Spring and Aspen saddle it was still faint but followable. From Aspen to Junction it was easy to follow but overgrown, with about four downed trees across it.

This stretch of the Crest is probably my favorite because of the views into Rucker Canyon. I look forward to the time when it gets the restoration work it deserves.

Eagle Spring
See my water report.

Crest 270A
It was a freakin’ superhighway! Lots of recent tread work really shines and even the overgrown parts are easy.

The area from Junction Saddle to Cima Park had burned really badly so it was basically a steeply sloped meadow of wildflowers and tree skeletons, some of them rather spooky. I've always thought of this stretch as the Halloween Trail.

Just south of Cima Park is a stand of aspens, which were turning at the time I passed through. It was really pretty.

Anita Park
The spur trail had a shiny new sign! The trail to Anita Park was overgrown but followable without trouble. I just went to check out Anita Park, which was tall grass and standing dead trees. I sat down on a log in the midst of an aspen stand, ate a snack, and cleared the stickers and seeds out of my shoes. This was a process I repeated many times on this trip.

I decided not to bother hunting for Anita Spring since there was so much overgrowth everywhere. Mental note: when hiking the Chiricahuas in late summer, wear gaiters and bring a machete.

Greenhouse Trail
I stopped at the cabin for lunch and to take advantage of the outhouse. The outhouse was being converted into an unsanctioned rodent hotel; there was a broom inside which I used for demolition purposes.

Greenhouse was in great shape in the forested section till you get to the creek, then things get dicey. Through the creek the trail was hard to follow at times, with lots of overgrowth and obstacles around creek crossings. Lots of water to collect though! And fall colors to enjoy!

Conditions improved as the trail left the creek only in the "easy to follow" department, but not in the "wildly overgrown" one. The tread was loose rock in the burn scars. Some of the overgrowth was pretty gnarly. It was consistently overgrown all the way to the road, but down in Greenhouse Canyon it was mostly grass. There was some deadfall, but only one large tree down near Greenhouse creek gave any trouble.

Winn Falls was not flowing much, it was more Winn Trickle. The views were pretty great nonetheless.

The last 1.5 was a road walk. At least it wasn’t overgrown.

This was what I would call a "real" Chiricahua experience. Neither Snowshed nor Greenhouse trails had seen much or any maintenance in recent years, and both have been pretty majorly affected by fire. I expected this to be a tough hike. While the hike was pretty challenging it was definitely worth doing. I hope these trails get some attention, as they are great trails to access the Crest from the Portal side.
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The aspens are starting to turn. There are some nice splashes of red and yellow throughout the area, but especially on the Crest near Cima Saddle and along the creek in Cima Canyon. Fairly sporadic along Snowshed trail as well.
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Yard-high daisies everywhere, even down the middle of most of the trails! Bring a machete.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Eagle Spring Dripping Dripping
Nice sign but trail down to it is faint and hard to discern if you don’t know where to go. Just hike down the slippery rocks toward the pine tree off to the right (facing the sign) and down the hill a bit. The spring is northwest of the tree.

Overflow is full but slimy with algae. Cover for the spring box is about 1/3 buried with rock and gravel. The spring is useable if you don’t mind clearing out slimy gook.

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Overflow trough and tank not useful. A concrete dam is holding water a bit uphill. Water is seeping out around it, making the ground a little muddy. Water in reservoir is shallow but still deep enough to submerge a small water bottle. Filters great if you're careful to keep the cruddies out; useable spring.

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Even if the flow is great, how this is a water source is beyond me. It is impossible to get to from the trail. Jetpack? There was a trickle of water dribbling down the cliff, so I'm not sure you could really call it a waterfall at this time.
 
Apr 19 2024
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Chiricahua Peak, AZ 
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Been trying to get this one for 8 years - made the drive twice before and ended up having to cancel Chiricahua each time. This is a stupid long daytrip (21 hours as it turns out), however an overnight wasn't in the cards.

Greenhouse Trail is in good shape up to Winn Falls, then you hit more overgrowth and some messy downfalls. The tread isn't particularly great either until you reach Cima Creek. I lost the trail here due to snow and had to stick to the slopes on the north side of the creek. After a stint of loose ground, the trail became visible again and I got back on track.

Had a brief break at Cima Park, then continued down the Crest Trail. The first half from Cima Park to Junction Saddle is still covered in snow, second half is clear and enjoyable with beautiful views. From Junction Saddle to Chiricahua Peak is a snow slog. I stuck to the trail for the most part, following someone else's old footprints. The peak was obviously covered in snow so no benchmark for me. Coming off the peak was all off-trail. If there is a trail, I didn't see it until I got much closer to the Crest/Ojo junction. Even then, there were trees growing right in the middle of it.

From Juniper Spring to Deer Spring (approx), Snowshed is in good enough shape. Unfortunately from Deer Spring to Pine Park, it can be a clusterpumpkin. Trail tread isn't good and it's overgrown a lot of the way. It's not difficult to follow, for what it's worth, but there are tons of thorny, shin-shredding bushes. You best be wearing pants on this one, trekking poles helped too. Pine Park is beautiful and Herb Martyr is in good shape all the way to the parking lot. Really enjoyed the creek crossings near the car.

I returned to the creek to cool off before driving home - temps were in the 80s down below. Stopped for mandatory coffee and a quick nap on the drive home. Gas was only $3.39 in NM!
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Snowshed - Paint Rock Loop, AZ 
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A friend and I needed to get away. Hadn't made a trip down to the Chiricahuas this spring yet, so off we went. Wanted to repeat a loop from last year from Turkey Creek, but with lightning in the forecast around 11am, and since I've never been East of the Crest, we drove down through Portal with dive-bombing birds and neurotic jackrabbits flashing through the high beams trying to make sunrise. Figured this loop would be shorter, but I'm not sure it was. My friend lounged around Herb Martyr CG where she enjoyed the sights, sounds, and smells of the wilderness while I disappeared for 7 hours and offered my body to it as a sacrifice. Went clockwise.

Herb Martyr Trail in superb shape. Sunrise views of Sanders Peak that nearly dropped me dead. A mile from the top took a break to catch my breath and heard footsteps out in the brush north of the trail. Bid hello from below, half dozen more slow steps and silence. Kept going, and didn't see anything. Trail climbs into a patch of old growth conifers near the jct and Pine Park. Really pretty area, and the last trees until Snowshed Peak.

Snowshed trail to saddle and up. Went straight up and bumped into a decent trail that climbs the ridge. Followed it most of the way down. It's often overgrown or covered over with deadfall, but it beats wading through the aspen. Summit views okay, but the forest of fir and pine on the summit/ridge is worth the diversion. Back to snowshed and took that around Aspen Peak. My favorite views in the range are probably looking across Rucker Canyon to Paint Rock, Raspberry Peak, and Monte Vista. Long time to admire from the Snowshed/Crest jct to Chiricahua Saddle. Trails in good condition to that point, although the end of Snowshed near Crest is soon to disappear in the ferns.

Short out and back under stormy clouds up Paint Rock. Probably my favorite summit in the range I've been on and the worst place to be with a chance of lightning. Fun climb up to the summit, but the views were a little hazy. Back to Chiricahua Saddle with a short break under the trees. Brilliant forest around Chiricahua peak. In the burn areas where the fir and pines are gone aspens are growing in. Decent trade off. Around the peak with huge views north toward Graham, Dos Cabezas, etc.

Got to Cima Park and headed down Greenhouse. Wanted to be there before 11, got there at 10:30. 10:50 heard the first thunder and was happy to be off the crest of the mountains. Greenhouse was my favorite new trail of the day, old growth forest and big views toward Silver Peak and Portal lower down. Wound back around with Basin Trail. Good road walk between the trails. Basin had unexpectedly good views. Cut down to the TH with Ash Spring Trail through some of the tallest junipers and sycamores I've ever seen. Didn't see anyone on the hike, 60s just about the whole time.
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Plan was to loop Snowshed and Greenhouse. Got started a little bit late, so brought lights just in case. Herb Martyr Trail was steep but pretty. Snowshed was not as steep, but rougher. Loved both; beautiful terrain up there.

We decided to do the out and back to Snowshed Peak. The first half is easy, then it gets overgrown. Looks like they've done some work on the first half.

Headed towards Chiricauhua via an alleged trail north of Aspen Peak, which my map shows but clearly does not exist in any meaningful form. Would have been easier just to go up and over.

Chiricauhua Peak was comparatively easy. I had been up from Rustler Park a few years ago, so nothing new.

Greenhouse Trail was cold. Creek was mostly frozen, as was Winn Falls.

Made it back to the car just as the sun was starting to set.
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Big News - Crest Trail (270 and 270C) now cleared of downfall from Barfoot Lookout to Sentinel Peak.
Seven of us backpacked from Rustler Park to Aspen Saddle. This was a volunteer trail crew with six volunteers and Zac, the Trails Ranger for the southern Coronado National Forest.
We spent our first day (Sunday) clearing the Crest Trail 270C from Junction to Aspen Saddles. This was less than a mile of trail but with some massive trees and difficult clearing. We set up our basecamp on Sunday night at Aspen Saddle and walked the trail to Ojo Agua Fria for water and found even more large trees blocking the way.
On Monday, we continued clearing 270C from Aspen to Junction Saddle but the trees were deadfall and relatively easy to clear. From Junction Saddle out to Sentinel Peak, a Forest Survey crew had cleared the trail the week before but the tread made walking difficult from the Price Canyon trail junction out to the South Fork trail junction (about 1.5 miles). We arrived at the South Fork junction at 11:20 and the rain hit us. With cloud-to-cloud lightning - we hoped - we waited out the rain in a copse of trees downslope on the south side of the ridge. With the shower out of the way, we worked our way down the trace of the South Fork trail. We chopped out raspberries and also ate some. We moved and shoved off smaller logs and cut out bigger ones to the switchback, about 150 yards to the northeast and started clearing the next leg to the northwest before calling it a day and heading back to Aspen Saddle. We flagged and located the trail to the northwest into a drainage and then along the southeast-facing hillside to just below a rock outcrop so are encouraged that we may someday be able to get the trail open once again.
With concern about more storms, we decided to clear the trails around Chiricahua Peak on Tuesday. We started on 270D, from Aspen to Chiricahua Saddle and had that cleared by 10 o'clock. Working back up 270B toward Junction Saddle, we cleared some nasty tangles and also a huge Douglas Fir so even though there are a number of "step-overs" left, the trail is easily passable for hikers heading out to Monte Vista. Rains hit again around noon but only lasted about an hour. We got water at Anita Spring and found enough dry wood at Aspen Saddle to enjoy a campfire.
It rained overnight so our hike out on Wednesday was in cloud and drizzle. Even with packs and tools, we made the walk back to the Long Park trailhead in 90 minutes.
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Good flow and trail cleared; Anita spring had water but low flow. Ojo Agua Fria good flow but trail obscured in places

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On Monday, April 6, eight showed up at the Visitor Center in Cave Creek at 6 am. The first decision was to move the meeting time back an hour to 7 am for the rest of the week. With tools and safety gear in hand, Zac, Carol, Steve, Walter, Rene, Tony, Brad and I drove to the Greenhouse trailhead. Thanks to Ray and Dori Brooks for spending 2 ½ days clearing the jeep trail from FR 42A to the trailhead. We cut and brushed our way about a mile and a half to a switchback just below the Falls Overlook. On Tuesday, the same eight returned and continued work up the steepest part of the Greenhouse drainage into the Cima drainage and into some of the gnarliest deadfalls to be found in the Chiricahuas. Of note, it took all eight of us and a block and tackle to remove a huge ponderosa from just below the ridge that separates Greenhouse and Cima drainages.

On Wednesday, seven of us decided to drive to Long Park and walk to Cima rather than make the 2500 foot climb from the lower Greenhouse. Like a well-oiled machine, we cut, moved, shoved and skidded all logs off the trail leaving only a single fir near Cima Cabin that will serve as practice for the crew that comes to the area in early June. There were a few logs on the Crest Trail, but not in the numbers we have seen in past years. It should be a matter of hours to clear the trail from Long Park out to Cima Park in June. Little evidence of snow also indicates that the upper Cima Creek will have low flow before the rainy season starts in late June.
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Trip Report: Snowshed Trail (#246), October 8-9, 2008

Trail Head, Herb Martyr lower parking lot, 31.87255, 109.23475, 5832 feet

Basin to Snowshed to Crest Trail, ~7 miles, 3500 feet in elevation

Steve Tolzman, his dog Igor and I left the trailhead at 2:00 pm on Wednesday with plans to backpack to Pine Park (3 miles from TH and at 8000 ft) and make a dry camp. The hike up Basin Trail (#247) to Snowshed Trail was uneventful although we did move several small trees off the trail and pruned back and cut branches from the crown of an oak tree that completely blocked the trail. Once we finished our work we were able to worm our way through without having to go off trail or shed our packs. We reached Pine Park around 4:30 on a calm and pleasant warm afternoon. Too bad there's no water otherwise this might qualify as the best camping spot in the Chiricahuas.

On Thursday, we left our camping gear and headed up Snowshed Trail toward Deer Springs. This is about 2.7 miles with a climb from 8000 to 9200 feet. The first 1 ½ miles are easy although there are some steep pitches in the first ½ mile from Pine Park. This trail was cleared and worked in the Fall of 2005 so there are a couple of trees down but the trail is in good shape and easy to follow. A fire in June 2008 caused some downslope erosion over the last portion of good trail. Once across a gully, the trace of the trail from 1 ½ to 2 ½ miles from Pine Park is marked with stones on logs and flagging but still requires a high degree of alertness to keep on-trail. From 2 ½ miles from Pine Park or 3/8 of a mile below Deer Spring the trail was cleared in June 2008.

It took us 1 ½ hours to negotiate the 1 mile of bad trail. After filling our water bottles at Deer Spring and admiring the aspen colors on the facing slopes, we returned to Pine Park in about 2 hours and then back to the Herb Martyr trailhead.

The associated GPS track is for the bad stretch of trail above Pine Park and below Deer Spring.

Here is the track for the one mile of uncleared trail:
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Jun 07 2008
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Chiricahua Wilderness Area - Sierra Club Service Trip, June 5-14, 2008

With twelve of us on the Service Trip plus the Trails Ranger, we cleared:

- Crest Trail of all downed timber from Rustler Park to Juniper Saddle (6 + miles); members of the Bozeman Engine Crew helped with some of the big logs outside the Wilderness Area.
- Trail from Long Park TH to Fly Saddle (< 1 mile)
- Trail to Chiricahua Peak from Crest Trail (1 mile)
- Trails to Anita and Booger Springs ( about ½ mile total)
- Snowshed Trail from Juniper Spring to switchback about ½ mile below Deer Spring (1 ½ miles)
- Trails to Fly Peak; south side cleared and about half of the north side (1 ½ miles)

Still many logs on the north trail to Fly Peak - perhaps next year. Didn't quite get the Snowshed Trail completely cleared down to Pine Park.
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Apr 05 2008
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Trail Head, FR 42, 31.89947, 109.23878, 6263 feet

This is oak, pinyon, juniper, and yucca country. A friend from Portal and I started early on another perfect early Spring day to enjoy the view and do some trail work on the Basin Trail (#600). We spent half a day brushing, improving the tread and clearing a couple of large trees from the trail. The creek coming down from Centella Point (North Fork of Cave Creek?) was running well but no problem to cross. The ceanothus was in early bloom otherwise not too many flowers. Since the trail runs along the west side of the Cave Creek Basin there are perfect views of Silver Peak, Portal Peak, Sulphur Peak, Snowshed Ridge and Snowshed Peak. Footing treacherous through shaley areas - good fosssils in the limestones; limestone, sandstone and shale of the Bisbee Formation. The Greenhouse Trail Creek was also running but the drainage coming from Welch Seep was dry.

It's about three miles to the jeep trail (FR713) that runs from FR 42A to the Greenhouse (#248) trail head, so our out and back took the morning. With the work we did on the Herb Martyr and Ash Spring Trails (#247 and 247A) earlier in the week, the combined trails from FR 42 to Snowshed Ridge (about 8 miles) are now clear of downed timber.
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Apr 04 2008
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Trail Head, FR 42D, 31.90592, 109.27708, 8370 feet

Low 30s overnight at Herb Martyr. Drive to Rustler Park was uneventful but the last mile of road to the trail head is rougher than most jeep trails. One car in the parking lot so headed out around 8, bound for Cima Cabin with a load of white gas for the volunteer trail crew that will be here in June. Went up the road to the turnoff to Boot Leggers Saddle and followed the Crest Trail (#270) to Cima Saddle and the Greenhouse Trail (#248). Made the seven mile round trip in four hours because I moved every small log off the trail on the way in and carried out a pack's worth of trash that was on trail between Round Park and Cima Saddle. Clearly some illegal traffic through the area in the last few months.

Perfect weather with views across the Sulphur Springs Valley to the west and Cochise Head to the north Many yellow-eyed juncos - do they ever leave? - and four cows keeping the tread in good shape. I think I counted five cows when we were here in November 2007 and am surprised that they didn't leave the high country with the snow. Two little icy patches near Round Park; quite a contrast from floundering through deep soft snow at this time last year. Springs might be iffy come June.

Met the dad and two sons in Bootlegger Saddle and heard their tales of a really cold night.

Counted over 30 trees across the Crest Trail between Bootlegger and the cabin. Returned via the Long Park trail head and found a big blowdown outside the Wilderness Area. Looked like a tornado touched down with trees lying every which way.
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Apr 03 2008
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Trail Head, Herb Martyr lower parking lot, 31.87255, 109.23475, 5832 feet

Ray Brooks and I left the trail head at 6 am with the intention of clearing the Basin Trail (#247) from Herb Martyr to the junction with the Snowshed Trail (#246). Weather was perfect: clear, sunny and cool. Both Cima and Cave Creek were running well but we had no problem crossing them. We carried loppers, a 21-inch pruning saw and a D-handled bucking saw to clear the anticipated six or so large logs (Douglas Fir and Ponderosa Pine) that I had noted were on the trail in 2007. It turns out that several more large trees had fallen in the interim plus an even larger number of 4 -- 6 inch silver leaf oaks from the 1994 Rattlesnake fire. So we walked, moved off the smaller stuff and cut out the bigger stuff as we worked our way up the trail toward Snowshed Ridge.

We got to about 7500 ft, about 2 ½ miles from the trail head and 0.2 miles from the Snowshed Trail by mid afternoon. We cut out the last large blowdown and decided that we had done enough for one day.

One unusual sight was an F-15 that flew down canyon below us at around 2:30 in the afternoon. It brought back memories of sonic booms that were once routine in the Chiricahuas several decades ago; something that is likely a no-no these days.

Camped at Herb Martyr campground and hiked the remaining trails in the Cave Creek Basin: Ash Fork and Basin. Dark skies and lots of stars.
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Oct 28 2007
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Chiricahua Peak from Rustler Park THTucson, AZ
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sumnergeoTriplogs 24
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Over five days at the end of October and beginning of November, Zac Ribbing, the Trails Ranger for the Coronado Natl Forest, and I walked the Crest and Snowshed Trails plus the adjacent trails to all the springs and peaks. We carried loppers, a pruning saw and a D-handle saw and were able to cut back brush and remove logs along portions of the trails.

On October 28, we backpacked from the Long Park Trailhead to Snowshed Saddle. This is about five miles and took us 2 ½ hours. We set up a base camp in the saddle and worked down Snowshed toward Pine Park and out the Crest Trail toward Sentinel Peak on October 29-30. On October 30 we moved our base camp to Anita Park, about 2 ½ miles back toward the TH and an hour 15 minutes of hiking. We made Anita Park our base camp for Oct 30 - Nov 1 (Happy Halloween and Dia de los Muertos!). From Anita Park, we walked trails to all the springs and peaks off the Crest Trail.

Weather was perfect with night time lows in the 30s and daytime highs in the 70s. Clear skies made it possible to see over 125 miles in all directions. The waning moon made for dark skies early and moonrise later at night.

Most of my account is of trail conditions because we plan to return in June 2008 with a crew to clear logs and open up the Snowshed Trail to Pine Park from the Crest.

The Crest Trail from Long Park to Juniper Saddle (over four miles) has two large trees across the trail but is otherwise clear of logs, brush, and has good tread. Since there are five (or six) yearlings that seem active along this stretch, they may have improved the tread. The Crest Trail from Juniper to the Price Canyon Trail (about 1 ½ miles) has a number of trees down but is otherwise in good shape. The rest of the Crest Trail out to the junction with the South Fork Trail (another 1 ½ miles) crosses significant areas burned during the 1994 fire and there are hundreds of trees (many of them under four inches in diameter) across the trail but the trail is easy to follow. We scouted the side trails to Chiricahua Peak, Ojo Agua Fria, Headquarters Spring, Anita Spring, and Booger Spring and found the trails easy to follow but with significant timber across all the trails. The trail around the back side of Flys Peak (east side ) to Bear Wallow Spring, the Centella Point Trail, and Tub Springs had only a few trees across the trail. The trail to Flys Peak has many logs across the trail.

Snowshed Trail from Juniper Spring to Deer Spring (about one mile) is in good shape but has one or two logs across the trail. From Deer Spring for about 1 ½ miles toward Pine Park, the trail is difficult to follow. One significant discovery was a switchback about 1/3 mile below (east of) Deer Spring where the trail crosses a large outcrop. Just past the rock, the trail drops about 40 feet in one long switchback. This is flagged and should make trail finding much easier through this area. We flagged, placed rocks on logs and cut and lopped brush to define and reestablish the trail over this segment. Past this, the trail is in good shape and easy to follow although there are several logs across the trail above Pine Park. For anyone coming up Snowshed Trail from Pine Park, follow the rocks and flagging; it is NOT easier to go cross country to the top of Snowshed Peak. The trail from Snowshed Saddle to Snowshed Peak is marked with rocks on logs through the lower portion near Snowshoe Saddle. Above this, the trail is significantly overgrown with aspen and has some downed trees.
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Mar 22 2007
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Snowshed & Greenhouse LoopTucson, AZ
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This may have been a bit early in the spring to do this loop but the weather was good and there was plenty of daylight. The lower sun angle makes for different lighting on the low and high peaks - something to savor. There is one bad stretch on the trail above Pine Park and below Deer Spring where the trail is _gone_ so it helps to have a topo map and follow the contours. Past this stretch, The FS Trails Ranger has placed rocks on logs that cross the trail to make it a little easier to find but no easier to walk.
I reached Pine Park in two hours (three miles and 2000 ft gain) but it took three hours to cover the 2 1/2 miles to Deer Spring. Good views of the upper reaches of South Fork along the side of Snowshed.
From Ojo Agua Fria Saddle to Cima Park is only about two miles but very slow going in deep snow. Same story on the trail down Greenhouse to the point where the trail leaves Cima Creek and rises up the north side of the valley above the falls overlook.
Longish walk back to the TH and tired from picking through the logs and floundering through the snow.
Plans are to return to the bad stretch of Snowshed trail in late Oct 2007 with Trails Ranger to locate, mark and blaze a trail that we will work on with a trail crew in June 2008.
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Sep 27 2006
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Snowshed & Greenhouse LoopTucson, AZ
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Bold text: Close Encounters of the Furred Kind
September 23-24, 2006

We loved last November's trek to Chiricahua Crest, so this year we thought we'd try a loop trail while the weather is warm and the streams are flowing. Greenhouse Trail 268 begins near Herb Martyr Dam and climbs 3420 feet in 6 miles to Cima Park. From there you can pick up the Crest Trail and return via Snowshed Trail for a loop of about 15 miles in length.

The trail follows an abandoned road along Cima Creek for the first 1½ miles. At the wilderness boundary the road narrows and begins switchbacking up a heavily burned ravine. There were lots of downed trees, and after the wettest monsoon in 26 years, the trail was nearly obscured by waist-high sunflowers and burning nettle.

The switchbacks approach vertiginous as you near Winn Falls, the main attraction on this otherwise desolate wilderness trail. The falls spill over the lip of a ridge and tumble 365 feet down a nearly vertical cliff face. Only the top of the falls is visible from the trail.

Above the falls, the switchbacks are not quite so steep and there are finally some distant views of the rusty backbone of the Chiricahua Mountains to compensate for the constant uphill grind.

At the 8000-foot mark we began to feel the combined effects of altitude and a sustained climb. When the trail joined Cave Creek and degenerated into a soggy scramble through a brush-choked streambed, we knew we wouldn't make it to Anita Park by dark.

We thought camping next to Cima Cabin was the next best thing, where at least the porch roof provided some protection from the pouring 0% probability of precipitation.

Mistake! We should have realized that careless campers had left enough trash to entice every critter within five miles. The packrats didn't give us a minute's peace, and SOMETHING VERY LARGE was prowling around the campsite. In the morning we found muddy paw prints at eye level and huge claw marks on nearby trees and buildings.

We couldn't get off that mountain fast enough! Four hours later and safely ensconced in the Taco Ma, we decided to soak away our sorrows at Faywood Hot Springs, followed by margaritas and a great meal at La Tienda Rosa in Palomas, Chihuahua. All's well that ends well. Full story at http://www.desertlavender.com/chiricahuas/greenhouse_trail.asp
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Feb 03 2006
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We started making great time until we reached that dreaded 1 1/2 mile of non existing trail right at Snow Peak. I suggested that we just bush whack our way straight up to snow peak and forget about snaking around the side since the trail was sheer guessing. My hiking partner gpsjoe however suggested we stay the course. In retrospect we should have just gone straight up it couldn't have been any worse than snaking along the side which slowed us down tremendously.
When we reached Snowshed Saddle and looked at the time, I decided to try to use my cell phone to call home and tell my husband that perhaps we may not make it out in daylight so please DON'T call the rangers. (I was surprised to have had excellent cell coverage.)
Once on more stable ground we made up time and still got out in daylight.
One final scare though - when we got back to (what we thought was) the trailhead and according to GPS it was, my car was no where to be found! :o The sheer thought of having to walk who knows how far to get help (no cell coverage in the canyon) made me look around and hope for a miracle. As I started to leave the parking lot and turned right.. there was my car! We did not realize that there were two lots, one at a lower level and yet still in the same GPS proximity.
If I ever wanted to kiss my car it was right then.
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