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Turtle Mountain Trail #219 - 11 members in 19 triplogs have rated this an average 3.5 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Morse Canyon Trail #43Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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GrangerGuyTriplogs 111
Hiking15.39 Miles 4,105 AEG
Hiking15.39 Miles1 Day   2 Hrs   31 Mns   
4,105 ft AEG23 LBS Pack
 
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I led an Arizona Backpackers Club hike for an overnight adventure in the Chiricahua Wilderness. After an overnight at the Sycamore Campground along Turkey Creek Road (nice outhouses), we headed out on the Morse Canyon Trail. There is limited parking at the trailhead. Be sure not to block the turnaround, as people come up here with trailers. The dirt road coming in was a little rough, but easily driven with a small SUV.

The climb up to the ridge went surprisingly fast. Morse Canyon trail is in great shape, as it must have been maintained recently. Turtle Mountain Trail had a few deadfalls, but not bad. I wasn't sure about my conditioning, and most of the crew was much more athletic--and younger--than me. At Monte Vista Peak, the view was somewhat obscured by the haze from the Stronghold Fire about 50 miles to the west; I couldn't smell it but some in our party could. There is an outhouse at the summit. I thought it seemed fine, but some of our party were not impressed.

There is a lot of dormant stinknet weed (Globe Chamomile) along the ridge. This invasive plant will probably lead to yet more fires up here. Crest Trail 270B was in pretty good shape but Crest Trail 270D was the worst with lots of deadfall, and the the last half mile to Aspen Saddle was very sketchy and hard to find.

We camped at Aspen Saddle; from there it is about 0.6 miles to Eagle Spring which had plenty of water in the concrete springbox. It wasn't difficult to filter out the green stuff. There was a 25 MPH wind blowing most of the night across the saddle, and in the morning, with temps around 38F, we were anxious to get going.

Crest Trail 270C up to Chiricahua Peak is mostly missing, but the direction to the peak is obvious. We were freezing in the wind, though, and we actually missed the summit by a few yards in our anxiety to get out of the wind. The trail down the north side of the peak is in great shape, however, and from there, we were out of the wind and started to warm up.

We took Crest Trail 270B back to the Mormon Ridge Trail 269, then down the Mormon Canyon Trail 352, which again was in excellent shape.
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[ checklist ]  Eagle Spring
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Wildflowers Observation None
Nothing in bloom yet.

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Spring box was full of water. It was easy to filter the algae out, and we pulled lots of water for our party.
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Monte Vista Lookout via Morse Canyon, AZ 
Monte Vista Lookout via Morse Canyon, AZ
 
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JackluminousTriplogs 266
Hiking8.54 Miles 2,782 AEG
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On a family camping trip to West Turkey Creek, wifey and I set off to the fire lookout on Monte Vista peak. She was pretty nervous since it would be the most challenging hike she’d ever done. Unfortunately all the hikes out of Turkey Creek aren’t particularly easy, and Morse seemed the least among evils.

We got away a little later than we wanted, but made Morse Saddle by lunchtime. Morse Canyon was in beautiful shape. The sign at the saddle was back up, too. Still a lot of deadfall at the saddle, including a big one across the trail for anyone headed west on Turtle Mountain. Easier to go around it than over it.

It was a windy day, too, with most of southern AZ under red flag conditions.

Trail conditions declined somewhat headed east to the lookout, mostly due to occasional deadfall across the trail in burn scars. The worst of it was on the slopes below Monte Vista peak, where the burn was particularly bad.

Wifey was pretty exhausted just below the peak and she contemplated turning around, but I showed her how close she was and she decided to press on.

We made it to the lookout and set up our chairs on the porch out of the wind to relax a bit and eat some calories. The view up there is great, especially into Rucker Canyon.

On the way down wifey rolled her ankle and banged her knee on a rock. Ow! No injury thankfully, she was able to press on. We found a patch of snow on Morse and she iced her knee a bit. It hurt but she could hike without a hobble.

As far as wifey was concerned, I was fairly certain this hike had moved from Type 2 fun straight out of the fun category altogether. But within a couple days she was bragging about her stats and asking to hike again the next weekend. :y:
 
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John Long Canyon Trail #267Tucson, AZ
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Hiking9.58 Miles 2,612 AEG
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I arrived the day before and had some time to walk a portion of the trail. There were no known routes for this hike and only ONE recorded summit way back in 1995 by a "local legend" named Mark Nichols. I originally wanted to get to the John Long trailhead and mapped out a route to get there via FSR 360 but was surprised to find out that there was private property in the way and I could not go via FSR 360. I decided to head over toward the Turtle Mtn trailhead. At least from there it seemed that there were trails that allowed me to get over to Black Mountain.

In the early morning, I started on FSR 4244 walking North. Within about 15 minutes I was at the turtle mountain trailhead. I continued up the road to a campsite area and found a trail near the upper left side that seemed to follow the canyon to the left, which is called Sycamore canyon. It was appropriately named because there were several Sycamore trees in that canyon. The trail dropped down into the canyon for a while and crossed it a few times. I lost the trail once in the first mile but found it again further ahead. There were a lot of cattle trails in this area which caused some confusion. It was hard to tell what was official trail and what was cattle trail.

At about the 1.0 mile mark, I somehow got off the trail again but didn't discover that I was off the trail until after I had continued for 500 to 600 feet. Once I discovered this, I climbed out of this side canyon and headed toward where I thought the official trail was. Then, re-joined the trail and continued. When you are at the 1 mile mark, you should see an old corral. Walk through the corral and continue up from the other side. I made the mistake of taking some cattle trails branching off to the left in this area. Check the route to be sure.

After a total of around 1.66 miles, I did it again. I somehow missed a switchback and continued up the canyon. After I realized this, I scaled up toward where I thought the trail was and eventually reached it. The trail was leading up to the saddle North of Peak 7013. When I got there I discovered a barbed wire fence. I saw a fallen tree which allowed for stepping over the barbed wire fence. I also saw 6-8 coils of newer looking wire that were probably going to be used to re-do the fence. Who knows how long that wire has been sitting there.

I stepped over the barbed wire fence, then went back to the saddle. There were some cattle trails here but it was difficult to know where the official trail went from here. I followed a few ways and it got very messy quickly. I tried to get down to the canyon but there were cliffs in some places. I saw a new trail that appeared to follow the canyon but I discovered that it really was going up out of the canyon and that wasn't where I needed to be.

I worked my way down into the canyon having to do some light bushwhacking. Once in the canyon, I found a good trail that headed West along Cub canyon and eventually to John Long canyon. Near the junction of Cub canyon and John Long canyon, there was an old sign. I continued North for about 1/3 mile following an old 4x4 road. There were plenty of fallen trees along this old road. I eventually made it to the base of Black Mtn. I didn't know if I would find a trail here or if it would be a bushwhack.

After looking around it became more and more apparent that this was going to be a steep and messy bushwhack. I found a way to get onto the ridgeline and it was very slow going. After a while of hiking, looking up I could see some rocky cliffs and wondered how I would get around/through that. I kept going toward the rocky cliffs. There was one bushwhack section that was especially thick and terrible, but once I got through I could see the climbing started off as class 3 and there were some sections higher up that ended up being class 4. I kept going up and eventually could see where it leveled off. I got above the steep rocky section and knew from here all I needed to do was walk along the gradual slope to the high point. Within a few minutes I was at the peak. I found a rock pile with a jar and surprisingly found some names from March 2023 and the entry before that was Oct 2020. I didn't expect this peak to get a lot of visits.

On the way down, I really wanted to avoid going down some of those class 3 & 4 sections. For safety, I decided to try a different route that I knew nothing about. I hiked NW from the summit to a high saddle. From there, there was an unmarked canyon going down. This canyon had some very steep and messy areas. I was able to weave to the left of the canyon, climbing on some of the rock formations. Eventually, I was forced to go into and through the messy canyon. But, then I found areas on the right side going down that were better than being in the canyon. As I got lower the grade got steeper and the hiking became easier. Eventually I reached the bottom of the canyon and it came to a "T" junction. At this junction I made a right and then followed it back to the John Long trail.

The John Long trail was easier to follow on the way down. When I reached the junction with Cub Canyon, I made a left turn and followed the trail through the canyon. There was a lot of confusion getting from the canyon to the saddle North of 7013. I felt like my track going up was equally as bad as my track earlier coming down. I'm not sure if I missed something or if the trail was truly wiped out by fires, monsoon, etc...

I continued across the saddle the same way as I did earlier. I took this trail East and eventually ran into the Turtle Mtn trail #219 or #5219. I felt like I made better time down because I was on a decent trail. I kept going down the same way. When I had about 1.5 miles left, I saw a huge cow that didn't run away from me. The cow was near the trail and walking UP...

I kept going and took a break near the flowing water which was probably under 1 mile from the trailhead. I took a needed break here, then decided to finish the hike, getting back to my campsite well before dark.

Note. The last 1/2 mile was especially rough. Steep class 3 & 4 sections. A lot of brushy areas. 4g & 5g signal at peak! Wow!

Directions: I-10 East to Exit 318 (Dragoon Rd). Take Dragoon Rd for 13 miles until you reach US-191. Turn right going South. Continue for 25.2 miles. Turn left onto Rucker Canyon Rd. The pavement ends here but it is a good road that is graded well. Stay on Rucker canyon road for 23.8 miles. Turn left on FSR 4244. If you have 4x4 you can continue for 2/3 mile to the end of the road to the Turtle Mtn trailhead. There's a camping area at the end of the road as well as along the road. I decided to camp near the Southern portion of FSR 4244.

Stats:
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Distance (round trip) = 9.58 miles
AEG = 2,612 feet
Moving time = 8 hrs 30 mins
Elapsed time = 10 hrs 55 mins
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Wildflowers Observation Isolated
Santa Fe phlox, threadleaf phlox, garden petunia, New Mexico lupine, Apache plume, hedgehog cactus with red flowers, Spanish dagger/banana yucca, long leaf Indian paintbrush, Burnet rose?, Antelope horns, Utah penstemon (red flower), prairie clover, tufted globe amaranth
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Chiricahua traverse loopy thing, AZ 
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JackluminousTriplogs 266
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Last month I got to go up Saulsbury into the Chiricahuas for the first time in 25 years, and now I got to do it again!

My friend Corey wasn't able to go with us in August, so he asked to go in September. We did a similar circuit starting in West Turkey Creek, ascending Saulsbury Thursday, spending two nights at Cima Cabin, and descending Morse Canyon this time instead of Pole Bridge. On Friday we did a day hike to Centella Point and summited Flys Peak.

Saulsbury Trail #263

See my August triplog for a more detailed description. Notable changes this time were: no more water in the creek, and somebody cleared the thicket of locust trees that we had to crawl through before. I'd brought some clippers this time but didn't need them!

Crest Trail #270, Greenhouse Trail #248, Cima Cabin

Not much different to report since last month, though I missed the sign for Greenhouse Trail because I was looking on the ground, and someone had hung it back up on a tree using cord. You can't miss it unless you are expecting it to be lying on the ground. :)

Lots more rodent activity in the outhouse, with piles of nesting material accumulating on a nightly basis. BYOTP.

Booger Spring

We took a side trip to Booger Spring so I could show Corey where it was. The trail is totally clear and free of deadfall; I hadn't been through in a while; last time I was there I remember quite a bit of deadfall. It was nice not having to scramble over giant tree trunks. At the spring, as predicted the box was full. What I didn't expect was the overflow trough to have water in it, too. I stand by my estimation that Booger Spring is the best of the Crest.

Bear Wallow #333

I guess someone must have taken all the deadfall from Booger Spring trail and moved it to Bear Wallow. Last time I was on Bear Wallow there was no deadfall and it was clear the whole way. Now, just past Bear Wallow Spring moving toward Centella, there are many large downed trees covering the trail. Pink flagging tape marks the route, but don't go this way unless you're fit enough to scramble over a series of giant trunks.

Bear Wallow spring was full, though no flow across the trail as I've seen in the past. Every time I've been by here the lid is off; I left it as I found it.

Centella Trail #334

This is a really nice trail. I'd been on it once in the past to Centella Point. The leg east of Bear Wallow junction is quite lovely and varied, with patches of meadow, young forest, old forest, aspen groves... all punctuated with impressive views, especially to the south. The trail is in good shape with a few exceptions; minor deadfall here and there (nothing you can't step over), and one stretch through a meadow where the trail disappears in the wildflowers and grass. The aspens around Centella Point have definitely grown since I was last there, and the views are starting to get obstructed to the east and northeast. From the grassy clearing though you get a nice panorama to the south, southeast, and southwest. It's a great view.

On our return we took Centella to Flys Park. This is a cool, shady stroll through a densely vegetated tunnel of aspens and remnant old growth pine. There is an unmarked drainage about halfway between the Bear Wallow junction and Flys Park that had water flow and a useful pool by the trail. Tub Spring is a bit further west but was less useful.

Flys Peak Trail #337

After a brief debate about returning to Cima via the Crest or Flys Peak, we settled on the climb to Flys Peak. It was a bit of a workout but not too bad. Like Centella, the trail up from Flys Park is mostly a hike through an aspen tunnel, though the peak is still pine forest. There is a nice campsite, the foundation of an old lookout tower, and a log book. There are also lots of fascinating gnarly old trees and a halfway decent view to the west. We passed a couple hikers from Apache Junction on the way up, and chatted with them a bit when they met us at the summit.

We descended the south slope, which was badly burned. The trail is in good condition and easier to follow than I remember from a past trip. The trail does completely disappear in the last couple hundred feet as it enters Round Park, but you can see the sign and just walk toward it. It seems finding the trail headed up from Round Park might be a bit more difficult.

Crest Trail #270B

The only notable difference about this leg between my August trip and this one, is that the crime scene I discovered over a month prior was still there. That was a big disappointment, since I had reported it to the Forest Service who then reported it to law enforcement. Corey had a large enough trash bag with him so we gathered it all up and I lashed it to my pack, then tried to restore the area to a more natural state.

Turtle Mountain Trail #219

We passed the only other hikers we'd see all day, a couple headed in the opposite direction.

Morse Canyon Trail #43

In August I'd hiked out Pole Bridge, but we opted for a shorter route to the car and took Morse Canyon instead. It's probably the best maintained trail I've been on in the Chiricahuas. It's also really pretty, and mostly healthy pine forest with lushly vegetated burn scars yielding raspberries in season.

We hiked the road back to the shortcut to the car, and bushwhacked the rest of the way. Saw two deer while bushwhacking.

Overall a fabulous and enjoyable trip with lovely weather, though it was windy on Saturday. Dead quiet, abundant solitude, and amazing nature.
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Aspens just starting to turn.
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Wildflowers Observation Substantial
Huge meadows of wildflowers throughout the crest. Somebody did something about the raspberries, as I only found a half dozen in 24 miles.

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Spring box is full. As always it seems, the lid is off.

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No visible flow in the drainage but there’s plenty in the spring box, clear and easy to collect. Even the overflow box had some but it’s better straight from the spring.

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Some flow and large pool to collect from. Finally found the developed spring box. It’s got water but it’s easier and cleaner in the creek.

dry Saulsbury Canyon Dry Dry
No more pools.

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Nothing in the tub but there is a trickle and small puddle on the trail. Not particularly easy to collect from but technically possible. There's a better spot in a drainage a ways down the trail to the east.
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Johnson Peak - Chiricahua WildernessTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Mike_WTriplogs 528
Hiking11.20 Miles 3,086 AEG
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Note: all stats are for Johnson and Turtle peaks which I hiked on the same trip...

Also Note: Pole Bridge Trail was marked #243 , not #264 which was indicated in the lookup...

I arrived Wed PM around 6:40 pm, just as it was getting dark. My plan was to camp overnight and meet up with Tim T. in the morning at 7 am. I found a great camp spot right at the Morse Canyon trailhead. I started setting up my tent, put the 4 stakes in, and the rain came quickly. My tent was flat on the ground. I zipped the door shut to prevent water from getting inside, then went inside my truck for shelter. After about 1 hour, the rain stopped. I finished setting my tent up and realized that I had at least a gallon of water inside. The window was left open a few inches and that's what must have allowed water to get in. Luckily, all of the water flowed to the low corner and I was able to use a towel to mop up some of the water in the main area of the tent. I was comfortable in my tent but wasn't able to get much sleep for whatever reason. I had my alarm set for 6 am, but heard a car roll up at 5:55 am. Tim arrived an hour early. I got up, had breakfast, and it was a little chilly so we needed to put a jacket on.

We started hiking at 7 am and had a pretty good pace up to Johnson saddle. I was a bit rusty because I hadn't done any long hikes or high elevation hikes since early Aug (about 1.5 months ago). It will take a few more hikes for me to get back into shape. At the saddle, Tim turn left to go toward Monte Vista peak, and I continued right going toward Johnson peak. There was a lot of deadfall at the saddle. I counted at least 20 fallen trees and had to walk way around a huge pileup. Johnson was pretty steep but I kept working my way up and reached the summit around 9:30 am. I had cell service at the peak. I looked around for a registry and didn't find one so I left a jar that I brought and made a nice rockpile around it. Tim would later find this registry and sign it on his way back down. See my timeline for more details of my entire day adventure...

Timeline:
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7 am (0 mi) - started hike at Morse canyon trail. this trail was very well maintained all the way up to Johnson saddle. Any deadfall that crossed the trail was sawed and moved off the trail. Thanks to those who maintained it.
8:40 am (2.5 mi) - reached Johnson saddle, took short break
9:05 am (2.88 mi) - summited Johnson peak, left a new registry
9:30 am (2.9 mi) - left Johnson peak, this time walking down the Southwest ridge, to save some time
9:55 am (3.3 mi) - reached the bottom of Johnson peak and came to a junction with the Pole bridge trail and Turtle mountain trail. I took the Turtle mountain trail from this point. This trail was unmaintained and there were areas from this point where I got off the trail. But, I knew where I needed to go and kept going in a straight line. There was also a lot of deadfall on this "trail" which I needed to step over. I put trail in quotes because for 1/4 of the time I wasn't even sure if I was on a trail.
11:30 am (5.0 mi) - reached the saddle North of Turtle peak. From here it was a pretty steep bushwhack. I did see tracks at times but couldn't tell whether they were animal tracks or human tracks.
12:20 pm (5.46 mi) - summit Turtle mountain, had lunch, took pics/videos. This peak did not have a registry but I did see some broken glass. Luckily, I had a jar, so I left a new registry here.
1 pm (5.5 mi) - left summit, followed a similar route down sometimes veering as much as 100 feet off my original route.
1:35 pm (5.98 mi) - back at the saddle North of Turtle mountain
3:18 pm (7.78 mi) - back at the Pole bridge and Turtle mountain trail junctions
3:39 pm (8.32 mi) - back at Johnson saddle. Noticed a huge rock pile but it was not the one Tim left for me. Tim had already started heading down the trail at this point. The rock pile must have been there earlier but I didn't notice it. I started heading down the trail and ended up taking a few water breaks and snack breaks along the way.
5:28 pm (11.17 mi) - back at the trailhead.

Stats for entire trip:
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AEG for both peaks was 3,086 feet
Round trip mileage was 11.17 miles
Strava moving time was 6 hrs 41 mins
Strava elapsed time was 10 hrs 27 mins
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For months I'd wanted to do this loop around the Chiricahuas. Well, years really. About 25 years ago I had my first backpacking trip ever, and it was up Saulsbury Trail during Spring Break with a couple college friends. We had ridiculously heavy packs by today's standards, were woefully unprepared and out of shape, started late, didn't get a weather report, got caught in a snowstorm on a windy saddle for the first night, and generally had a blast. On that trip we barely made it to Round Park on a quest to a fabled place called Booger Spring, and I don't even remember if we made it there. But that trip is what kindled my love of the Chiricahuas and of backpacking in general, and I finally had the opportunity to do a nostalgic trip up Saulsbury.

The Drive
The drive to the trailhead is mostly pretty good; Turkey Creek Road is unpaved but well-graded. It does get rocky in places with a couple creek crossings that will have water in wet times of year, but nothing a brave driver in a Honda Fit can't handle. The spur road to Saulsbury Trailhead, however, is definitely high-clearance mandatory. No trouble in my trusty old '98 CR-V (I have a 1" lift and all-terrain tires, but I think a stock Subaru and skilled driver would make it fine). I did pass an ATVer who looked very surprised to see me, which is always fun. It was very bumpy, and if it wasn't so short I'd have aired my tires down.

Saulsbury Trail
I had my friend Lisa as a partner, and we started at Saulsbury around 9am. It was pretty cloudy, and stayed cloudy all day, which was nice to keep temperatures down and mitigate the risk of a thunderstorm.

Saulsbury is a really beautiful trail and largely clear and easy to follow, with only short sections through old burn scars. The drainage in Saulsbury Canyon had a few pools and trickles here and there for the length of the canyon, though we had brought plenty of water to get us to the Crest. There were lots of ripe raspberries, too! So many, something just had to be done about them...

We did have two issues on this trail. The first was at a broad creek crossing about halfway to Saulsbury Saddle, where the trail was a bit faint and we took a wrong turn up the drainage. It took us a while to realize we were off-trail and some bushwhacking to get back on. This was more hiker error than an issue with the trail, but I did go back down to where we messed up and put up a cairn.

The second issue was higher up, above the saddle in a burn scar. The trail abruptly ended at a huge fallen tree that had slid down the mountain and taken the trail with it. There was a faint workaround that ended in a gully that had flooded and also taken the trail with it. Across the gully you could faintly see what might have been the original trail, but it was completely choked with Locust trees (which are thorny buggers). The trail conditions were so bad that we at first thought the trail may have been rerouted and we somehow missed it, but after some scouting around we realized the trail did indeed go through the thicket of Locust trees. Fortunately it wasn't a great distance before we were back in pristine old-growth pines, but we actually had to crawl on our hands and knees in places to get through. I really should bring some clippers every time I hike in the Chiricahuas, but they are so darn heavy!

Shortly after that obstacle we came to the place where I'm 90% sure I and my college friends had camped 25 years ago and got snowed on. Saulsbury is a relentless uphill slog in a heavy pack, and we had started late and pooped out before getting to the Crest that day.

The trail had changed a fair amount from my memories. When I first went it was just after the Rattlesnake Fire, and I remember seeing a lot of devastation in stretches above Saulsbury Saddle. I thought of it as "The Desolation of Smaug". Now those burned areas have largely recovered and the pine forest is returning. The trail doesn't seem to have been as badly affected by the Horseshoe II fire as other parts of the Chiricahuas.

The rest of the hike to the Crest was remarkable for its scenery and fantastic views, but not for poor trail conditions.

Round Park
The Saulsbury Trail takes you to the Crest through pine forest just north of Round Park, which is an open grassy meadow with wildflowers. It is recovering from the Horseshoe II fire, so there are some dense thickets of aspens and lots of young pines on the periphery. It looks like a beautiful camping area now, with great views to the west and proximity to Booger Spring, though I wouldn't camp here if there was a lot of wind or storms. This section of Crest is also pretty heavily used (by Chiricahua standards).

We came to Round Park about 3 in the afternoon. We considered a side trip to Booger Spring to tank up, but we were planning to camp at Cima Cabin not far away and expecting water there. So we pressed on, snacking on raspberries the whole way.

Cima Saddle
The next big junction on the Crest south of Round Park is Cima Park, which had been heavily wooded by old growth trees before the big fire. Now it is a carpet of downed trees, a few snags, and a lot of young pines and aspens. There is a lovely camping spot just south of the junction with the Greenhouse Trail. For the most part it is a lovely area despite the evidence of the fire, and is recovering beautifully.

We turned down Greenhouse to head to Cima Cabin, a Forest Service cabin built in the 30s and still used today by fire and trail crews.

Cima Cabin
The cabin is about a quarter mile (ish) from the saddle. I'm not sure how often it gets used, but I've never seen anyone there before and we didn't on this trip, either. When we arrived, we noticed some roof damage. A huge tree on the west side of it had come down, landed on the roof, and rolled off the side of the building. There was quite a bit of damage including branches sticking out of the roof; it looked like a big repair job. The Forest Service is undoubtedly aware as the massive trunk had been limbed and there was a large slash pile nearby. We hope the building will be repaired as it is historically significant.

There is a very well-kept outhouse at the cabin, and Cima Creek is a reliable water source. There's also plenty of room for tents. There are also mice, so mind your food and other smelly items.

We enjoyed the evening at camp and were off to bed at sunset. It rained lightly shortly after we retired, and we were roused by more light rain in the morning. It was completely overcast and cool.

Friday we rose, had breakfast, and put together our day packs for some exploring. We decided to check out Anita Park, summit Chiricahua Peak, check out Aspen Saddle, and visit Eagle Spring. At some point in the day we expected to rendezvous with our friend Keith somewhere around the cabin.

We headed south on Crest. This section of trail had seen very recent tread work, and it was like hiking on a superhighway. We deeply appreciated the hard work that trail crews have done to make the Chiricahuas more accessible!

Anita Park
Heading south on Crest from Cima is Anita Park, which back in the day was an idyllic backpacking destination. It was a beautiful meadow amongst old-growth pine, with easy access to water at Anita Spring, and close to Chiricahua Peak. Alas the Horseshoe II fire obliterated it, and the pines are almost all gone, either snags or burnt logs on the ground. The sign marking where the Anita Spring trail leaves the Crest trail is lying on the ground in pieces, and the Anita Spring trail itself is faint and easy to miss. It is followable and we took it to see what we could see.

Anita Park itself is actually recovering, with a beautiful meadow ringed with aspens and young pines. A few snags still stand as reminders of horrors past. The trail passes the meadow and enters the old forest, which is still a sea of devastation. Many standing dead trees and almost none alive. The trail is cairned but there is still a bit of deadfall to traverse, with much more to come in time. I had hopes the spring would be serviceable, as there were good reports as recently as May of this year, but what we found was disappointing. The drainage has water in it, but it seems new deadfall has covered the catchment, or it has silted in completely, or it simply was concealed by rampant overgrowth. Regardless, we couldn't find it. The pools were so shallow that Lisa couldn't use her pump filter, and it wasn't practical to use a water bottle or scoop. Overall the water source was kind of depressing.

As we hiked out, the cloud decks lowered and shrouded the landscape in mist, making the fields of standing dead trees look ghostly.

Junction Saddle
Not far past Anita Park is Junction Saddle at the base of Chiricahua Peak. From here the Crest trail splits; Crest #270B heads west to Chiricahua Saddle, Crest #270C heads south to Aspen Saddle. There is also the Chiricahua Peak trail that heads to the summit, which we took. This trail was also clear and easy to follow, with no deadfall and great tread. It does traverse a significant burn scar but it is thick with aspens and quite lovely.

Chiricahua Peak
You can't see much at the peak on a clear day as it is densely forested, and today it was shrouded in cloud as well. We sat down at the peak, signed the log, and ate some snacks.

Maps show the Chiricahua Peak trail descending to Aspen Saddle as well as Junction Saddle. However, the segment to Aspen Saddle appears to be completely abandoned and there is barely any evidence of it left. So we just walked down the mountain to the saddle as best we could, and it was a pretty easy bushwhack.

Aspen Saddle
This is a favorite camping area with a few token old-growth trees still standing in a small grove with young pines on either side. We've camped here several times. The nearest good water source is Ojo Agua Fria, though the last time I was there it wasn't much better than Anita Spring. It's in a badly burned area and prone to silting in and getting choked with deadfall. It's also a steep climb down and back out. We've found at times Eagle Spring is easier to access. It's further away but with no appreciable elevation change.

Eagle Spring
We decided to check out Eagle Spring, which is a ways south of Aspen Saddle. The Crest from Aspen south hasn't been maintained in a while so the tread is faint, but there's no deadfall or major obstacles. The views along this segment of the Crest are spectacular, some of the best in the range. As we progressed the clouds broke and revealed Rucker Canyon, with clouds spilling over Chiricahua Peak. It was glorious.

Eagle Spring is signed and just off the trail, with a steep trail down to it. It consists of a concrete box with lid, and an overflow basin. The lid was mostly buried despite a check dam constructed above it, and the overflow was mostly silted in and slimy, so the spring is in need of a little TLC. I tried to clear the dirt to get the lid open but was not successful at getting the lid unstuck. I did discover that a corner of the lid had broken off in the past, exposing a hole large enough for Lisa to drop her pump into the spring box. She easily filled up and the water was great.

We returned to Cima Cabin more or less the way we came, the only exception was taking Crest from Aspen to Junction Saddle. That stretch of trail is densely wooded with aspens punctuated by standing old-growth pines, and a joy to walk.

Keith arrived at Cima Saddle just after we did, and we all went down Greenhouse to the cabin together. Keith set up his hammock and we had a pleasant rest in the afternoon as the clouds dissipated and brought some sunshine into the day.

Saturday was departure day. Keith and Lisa were to hike out to Rustler Park together, while I would return to my car solo along Crest #270B to Pole Bridge. It was a clear, sunny day. Keith had gotten a weather report on his Garmin which suggested afternoon thunderstorms were likely.

Crest #270B
Keith and Lisa accompanied me to Junction Saddle, where we parted ways. I saw three turkeys take flight in front of me as I rounded Chiricahua Peak. As I approached Chiricahua Saddle I spotted an empty tin can recently dropped by another hiker, so I collected it.

As I approached Paint Rock I passed a couple enthusiastic young hikers who were enjoying their first time in the Chiricahuas. They warned me there was a rattlesnake ahead, but I never saw it.

At Paint Rock I observed some rather dark cumulous clouds forming over Rucker Canyon. I had a few miles ahead of me so it motivated me to keep moving.

Between Paint Rock and Raspberry Peak I came across a crime scene that made me livid. Someone had built a campfire in the middle of the trail, and it was full of trash: empty cans of beans, half-burnt styrofoam and plastic meat packaging, a full container of burnt stovetop popcorn, and even a pizza pan. :o :x The offenders had pathetically covered the mess with large pieces of tree bark, which wildlife had scattered while investigating all the food residue. I will never understand what sort of inconsiderate stupidity that some people are capable of. I considered trying to clean up the mess but had no realistic way to pack it all out. I felt guilty the whole way down the mountain.

Update: I reported the crime scene to the Forest Service, who forwarded the report to law enforcement. They suggested it was a migrant resupply.

I was marginally cheered by impressively-sized ripe raspberries along the trail as it approached aptly-named Raspberry Peak.

Monte Vista Lookout
I took the spur trail to the Monte Vista fire lookout when I came to it. There is a cabin and outhouse there along with the metal lookout tower. It was still clear, but the puffy clouds over Rucker Canyon were getting bigger. I observed the elaborate lightning rod and ground wires on the cabin, and imagined what it might be like to be staying at the cabin during monsoon season. Sign me up... not!

There was an old-timey scale hanging on the porch for weighing packs, so I weighed mine. It was 24 pounds, which meant I ate about 6 pounds of food over the last couple days.

Morse Saddle
This saddle appeared to have a lot of blown down trees blocking the trail for anyone continuing west to Pole Bridge trail. A large live tree had blown over recently; at first glance it looked like over a dozen trees were over the trail, but after traversing the big one it was evident the others had already been cut.

The trails past Morse Saddle are less maintained and a bit in need of a haircut and a little tread work, but they are quite followable.

Pole Bridge Trail
This is now one of my favorite trails in the Chiricahuas, if only because of its variety. It can roughly be divided into an upper and lower part, separated by the junction with John Long trail at Pole Bridge Saddle. I'd done a loop in the past, going up Pole Bridge from Turkey Creek and returning via Morse Canyon trail. At that time it was very wet and there was a lot of water in Pole Bridge Canyon, making for a marvelous riparian hike in the lower section. This time I was descending Pole Bridge, which is quite steep, and the canyon was bone dry except for two or three very shallow stagnant pools. That was unfortunate as I'd hoped there was water. I had very little left at this point.

Heading Home
I reached the road and started to make my way back to the car. There's no established connector to Saulsbury Trailhead from any of the other trails originating in Turkey Creek, other than walking the road, so I bushwhacked. As I approached my car I heard the first peals of thunder for the afternoon storms, which were by now substantial but moving east off the Crest and no threat to me.

On the trip home I had to drive through two major thunderstorms, one outside of Pearce and the other just past Benson on the I-10. On that stretch the rain was coming down so hard that traffic slowed to about 40mph and some cars even pulled off completely. When I put my wipers on high, the linkage broke and then I had no wipers. :scared: Fortunately the water was beading up on the windshield and flying off enough that I could still see. I made it home by 4, which also happened to be beer-o'clock. :y:

Another fantastic trip in the Chiricahuas, my happy place in the world. I'm already thinking about the next one!
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Wildflowers Observation Moderate
Flowers pretty much everywhere there is a little sun.

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Well there were two or three stagnant pools but not useful, which is too bad because I was quite thirsty.

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Pools all along the trail, easy to collect and filter.
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Pole Bridge Trail #264Tucson, AZ
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Chris had the plan and I was along for the hikes. We started out about 9:30amand it was warm already. After getting out on the trail and getting some elevation, shade and breezes things got much better. The views were nice and the fire damage from years past didn't seem as prevalent. There were signs of regrowth with aspens and small pines in some areas along the way. The thin air was a factor on the climb up but we kept moving. We took a break on a ridge with a good breeze to refuel and decided the longer option was a go. The hike down was easier on the lungs but the trail was rustic so the pace was still moderate. It was nice to get out this way and see great mountain trails.
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Pole Bridge Trail #264Tucson, AZ
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Hiking11.77 Miles 3,709 AEG
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1st trip
This hike got delayed a year due to the early monsoon activity last June. My goal was to hike the Pole Bridge Trail since it's in the 100 Classic Hikes in AZ book. I saw the system of trails in the Chiricahua WA and planned a loop to take Turtle Mountain, Crest, Mormon Ridge and Mormon Canyon Trails. Of these trails, the Crest Trail has the best views by far, which makes me wonder why the Pole Bridge Trail made the cut for that book :-k .

We started hiking around 9:30 due to the long drive. It was kind of toasty at the start, but cooled off quickly enough as we gained elevation and caught some breezes. However, we were sweating from the steep climb and needed to hydrate. The first 3 miles took 2 hours and was 2200' AEG. The first 5 miles took 3 hours and was 3200' AEG. I was beginning to feel spent and knew that part of the problem was it was getting past lunch time and my blood sugar was low. I just felt weak, and it was more than just the strenuous hike up. By the time we stopped just below Monte Vista Peak for lunch, I was almost spent. Earlier, at the junction for Morse Canyon Trail, I was really considering bailing and taking the 8 mile loop option. I hadn't killed my bladder but I felt like any sip might be the last and we still had more of a climb to Monte Vista. In retrospect I'm very glad we stuck with it.

After lunch we mistakenly took the Monte Vista Trail, thinking it was the Crest Trail (not that we had paid attention to any of the name, just looking at the tracks I downloaded). i only discovered this because the views were so nice I decided to take a panorama pic with my phone and noticed that we were off track. Luckily Wally was not out of earshot even though he was out of eye shot.

the Crest Trail as already noted had the best views. This area up top looks more like Washington state than AZ, and it's not overrun by people since it seems hardly anyone is aware of it. We had spent so much energy getting up there and then this trail is at 9100'. For a lot of this, I was a little light headed and kind of felt like I might have been close to altitude sickness for the first time. I did notice once we got lower I felt better. I think the strenuous climb up contributed to this. Doing this trail made me very happy we stuck with it and didn't bail sooner.

The hike down Mormon Canyon was pretty easy, but at the same time it wasn't. Downhill gives you the chance to catch your breath (especially since we got back to a more oxygen rich zone), but the steep terrain was rough on the quads. I'm still feeling it on Sunday night. The shade from the pines gave me the chance let my hoodie down and enjoy the breeezes more. Some rocky sections made it just hard enough to be annoying for a little, but it helped knowing we were in the home stretch.

Once we got to the road it was easy breezy. I thought this might be more like 13 miles but we were under 12, which I had no complaints about. It was warmer again back at the bottom but the downhill grades and the extra oxygen more than made up for that.
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Johnson Peak Loop aka Pole/MorseTucson, AZ
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Spent the weekend car camping near Sycamore Campground, which was mobbed. We did find a nice dispersed site walking distance from the campground, and the huge group at Sycamore was very well behaved, so a pleasant time was had by all.

Saturday I led Bob and the kids up Pole Bridge, with the thought of descending Morse and walking the road back to camp.

I was expecting Pole Bridge to be a sketchy bushwhack with lots of deadfall, but was pleasantly surprised by the quality and beauty of the trail. There are a few stretches through old burns, but the forest is recovering nicely and there was only one creek crossing where the cairns were hard to see and I needed to check GPS to find the trail.

Tons of water in Pole Bridge Canyon, almost all the way to the switchbacks. The forest is mixed pine and oak, at times quite dense, and reminiscent of trails in the Santa Ritas.

The upper section is very steep, be prepared for a cardio workout! Like all the trails coming out of West Turkey Creek, the uphill is relentless until you reach the spine of the mountains.

We were very slow heading up.

We broke for lunch at Pole Bridge Saddle. The signs were lying on the ground and definitely not pointing the right directions, so I made some adjustments and managed to rehang the John Long sign using my multi tool. Next person up here should bring a longer screw! :-)

After Pole Bridge Saddle, the burn areas get worse and the trail conditions with them. The trail is generally easy to follow but there are exceptions. We did lose it fairly quickly after the saddle, but equally quickly found it again and never lost it after that. The remainder of Pole Bridge and the upper section of Turtle Mountain felt like “real” Chiricahua trails: sketchy, overgrown, and infrequently maintained whilst simultaneously exceptionally well built.

It was a cloudy day, but as we rounded Johnson Peak we saw the rain coming. It swallowed Monte Vista, then hit at Morse Saddle, moderately heavy with tiny hailstones. We began a somewhat hurried descent down Morse Canyon. The rain didn’t last long though, maybe 20 minutes.

Morse is a much easier descent than Pole Bridge would be, but still steep. The trail is excellent and very well done, even through a few burned sections higher up. While the drainages in the canyon have signs of intense flow, they were all dry.

The road was a road. I don’t much care to hike roads but this one isn’t bad.

Overall it was a great day and much fun was had.
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Some fall color low on Pole Bridge. Leaves just turning yellow.

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Sep 25 2022
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Chiricahua & Monte Vista Peak LoopTucson, AZ
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Second day of our Chiricahua trip. Main goal was to hit the high point of the range, Chiricahua Peak, and add on extras as we had time and energy.
We started with a short bushwhack from camp to the Mormon Ridge trail. As we gained elevation the views opened up and were fantastic.
After a bit we crossed a talus landslide area about a hundred yards wide. There were no cairns or obvious signs of a trail on the other side. Taking the best looking possibility proved to be wrong. An hour later and after half a mile of difficult bushwhacking, we finally found the trail again.
Once we got to the Crest Trail we made our way up to Chiricahua Peak. Views are limited from the top. On the way to Paint Rock, the views back towards the peak are impressive.
It took some route finding to get through Paint Rock, then it was on to Monte Vista Peak. We got rained on by our own little private cloud that followed us all the way from Paint Rock to Monte Vista Peak. We took a break under the porch of the cabin at Monte Vista until the rain slowed.
We decided to skip Johnson Peak on the descent since we were running behind schedule and it was still raining. The descent down Morse Canyon was on nice tread in big forest. Not overgrown like most of what we had been hiking on all day. Great way to end a tremendous hike. :)
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Sep 25 2022
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Chiricahua & Monte Vista Peak LoopTucson, AZ
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trekkin_geckoTriplogs 4,660
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this looked like a solid loop with two peaks, right from sycamore campground
got going around 0800 or so after coffee and breakfast with randy
cut straight up the hill to mormon ridge
nice trail with good views, right up until where we lost the trail crossing an avalanche/rock field
took us a long time to find it again, with plenty of bushwhacking and climbing around on loose rock
"someone" forgot to import the pieces to this loop, which would have been helpful ](*,)
trail found, we continued to the crest trail, then north to the chiricahua peak trail
took a little break on the high point, then retraced our steps to chiricahua saddle
headed for monte vista peak, with another route finding adventure near paint rock
the crest trail was very overgrown and hard to find in places
lots of sharp raspberry bushes and other pointy vegetation
it would have been nice to have shin guards
got a few sprinkles and then some light rain
at the peak, went partway up the tower then took a break under the cabin overhang until it stopped raining
steep descent down turtle mountain and morse canyon trails, finishing with a road walk
enjoyed the loop and fun to do something new
was surprised at how little traffic the trails seem to get - we saw no one all day
my phone died on monte vista peak, so i used @dixieflyer's stats for the remaining mileage
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Chiricahua Peak Loop, AZ 
Chiricahua Peak Loop, AZ
 
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I fixed a hike I did last summer by swapping Mormon Ridge for Saulsbury and turned it into a loop. Ended up on six summits: Little Baldy, Fly's, Chiricahua, Paint Rock, Monte Vista, and Johnson. Basically a longer version of the Chiricahua Peak - Monte Vista Peak Loop with, by my count, 7 obvious summits to choose from: these six and Raspberry Peak. Once on the crest of the Chiricahuas, the peaks never loom too far above.

Started at sunrise parked down E Turkey Creek Road by the Coronado NF sign. The road to Saulsbury involves crossing the running Turkey Creek, which denies access to all but those with a nice enough ride. Saulsbury is in fantastic shape to Saulsbury Saddle. Comes and goes for the middle portion, higher up is clear as well. Much prefer Sauls to Mormon. Nice forested canyon down low and better views higher up. Little Baldy Mountain is right off the trail and very much worth the effort. Not many bare summits in the Chiricahuas, so it's nice to have some panoramic views even if it's not one of the high peaks.

Round Park and the slopes of Fly's Peak are prepping for the summer wildflowers. Few monsoons and they'll be covered yellow. Fly's has the weakest views of the six. Fly's trail is gone from the south, except where it cuts through the aspens higher up.

Crest Trail was in great shape the whole way. Will be overgrown and spotty in the summer, but for now it's clear and smooth. Cut over Chiricahua Peak to Aspen Saddle on Crest 270A. Aspen Saddle has amazing views, enough to placate those disappointed by Chiricahua Peak. From Aspen Saddle Crest 270D heads to Chiricahua Saddle. Very uneven, and the trail disappears in parts come summer, but it's clear now. Worth it to, if nothing else, circle back to Crest that way.

The trip back from Chiricahua Peak to Turkey Creek is the best part of the loop. Crest Trail runs along the ridge right under Paint Rock. Passed it, then worked my way up from behind. Obvious route, sees more hikers than I thought. One wall to scramble up to make the summit. Best views of the day, easy highlight of the loop.

Took Crest down to Monte Vista. Great shape the whole way. Met a second pair of hikers on the summit. Tower unoccupied. More Crest to the saddle below Johnson Peak. Wasn't going to summit Johnson but I met a hiker who was thinking about heading up. Said if he's going I'm going, and we went up. Hundreds of ladybugs on the summit. Views are pretty good despite the trees. Neat little summit.

Morse Canyon in great shape and received recent maintenance. For one reason or another Morse gets the most help of the trails off Turkey Creek. Passed a couple campers who were hiking up to the saddle, exhausted, who asked about big views. Sometimes you can only shrug. Farther down, a group of birders were in town and had lugged out cameras with cartoonishly big lenses to photograph a bird that I guess hadn't been around those parts for twenty-odd years.

Nice to get down there while it's still cool. As a Phoenix resident, in season in summer usually just means beats the hell out of 100F by noon. Temps ranged from high 40s to high 70s. Not a cloud in the sky. Camp sites were packed for Memorial Day weekend, but the trails are never crowded.
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May 07 2020
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Chiricahuas: Monte Vista Peak - Johnson Peak, AZ 
Chiricahuas: Monte Vista Peak - Johnson Peak, AZ
 
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,374
Hiking8.80 Miles 3,133 AEG
Hiking8.80 Miles   4 Hrs   43 Mns   2.16 mph
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This was the first of 3 days of hiking in southern Arizona. I had never hiked in the Chiricahuas, and for my first hike I decided to hike up to Monte Vista Peak and Johnson Peak.

We started at the Morse Canyon TH, which is at the end of Turkey Creek Rd (FR 41). The drive in on the unpaved Turkey Creek Road is 11 miles, and when dry most any vehicle can make it. I was going about 50 mph for the first 5 miles or so on the road, but the road narrowed and was a bit rocky over the last 3 miles.

I did not expect to see many other vehicles, if any, at the TH but to my surprise there were at least a dozen vehicles there. It turns out that there lots of birders at the TH doing what birders do.

The Morse Canyon Trail is in pretty good shape and it was nice to hike on; however, there was a fair amount of deadfall to deal with on the upper part of the trail -- hopefully there will be some trail maintenance done before long.

Once we got to the end of the Morse Canyon Trail, we took the Turtle Mountain Trail to just below Monte Vista Peak, and then took a spur trail up to the summit. There were some nice views at the summit, so we hung out there for a while and had lunch.

On the way back, once we got to the junction with the Morse Canyon Trail we we went off-trail up to Johnson Peak. The climb was a bit steep, but it wasn't too onerous. There were some pine trees at the summit, which limited the view. However, there was a good view looking over to Monte Vista Peak.

We then descended down the Morse Canyon Trail back to the TH. We saw a couple of turkeys just before getting back to the TH -- that was the only wildlife that we saw all day.

Once back at the TH, we drove 40 miles or so on FR 42 up and over the mountains to Portal, which is where we hiked the following day.
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Monte Vista Peak via Turkey Creek, AZ 
Monte Vista Peak via Turkey Creek, AZ
 
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Hiking10.91 Miles 3,369 AEG
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1st trip
On Sunday our group, minus Claire & Jackie, headed up the Morse Canyon Trail. The four of us and dogs made good time up this steep trail. We were glad to find it in good condition overall. The trail makes a lot of switchbacks and the lower stretch is completely clear. The upper portion has some deadfall but it’s only a nuisance. We eventually topped out on the saddle next to Johnson Peak and discussed our options. Chumley & I wanted to push on Monte Vista Lookout while Kyle & FOTG and the dogs would return back down Morse Canyon.

The going to Monte Vista Peak is fairly straightforward as it follows the Crest Trail. There was more deadfall but none of it was too bad. The last stretch makes a good climb to the peak and you know you’re close when you see the lookout tower and cabin on the summit. The views up top were better than Chiricahua Peak as there aren’t as many trees. We enjoyed this peak tremendously and then returned to the saddle above Morse Canyon. From there Chumley and I continued around Johnson Peak and headed for Pole Bridge Trail. This top section was loaded with deadfall and was a pain to get through. I was a little worried but luckily it didn’t last too long.

The Pole Bridge Trail makes a steep descent through the forest as it switchbacks down the drainage. You eventually hit the creek bottom and follow that down. There was some deadfall along this trail but it was fine overall. The top section was the nightmare! We continued down and eventually hit the road and returned to camp thus completing our weekend getaway to the Chiricahuas. We packed up camp and then made a quick stop at Johnny Ringo’s Grave and then returned to Phoenix.

I really enjoyed the Chiricahua Mountains. I had no idea there were so many trails out here. A return trip is a must!
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 Tempe, AZ
Monte Vista Peak, AZ 
Monte Vista Peak, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 24 2016
chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking10.89 Miles 3,291 AEG
Hiking10.89 Miles   4 Hrs   48 Mns   2.69 mph
3,291 ft AEG      45 Mns Break
 
1st trip
This was a fantastic day hike from the Turkey Creek area, and a great 2nd day in the Chiricahuas. If I had only one day to do a loop here, I would combine Morse Canyon, Monte Vista, Raspberry Ridge, Chiricahua Peak, and Mormon Canyon for the best possible loop. But you really can't go wrong with any of these options!

Morse Canyon 43
This is one of the nicest trails I have ever hiked. It climbs 2000 feet in 2 miles and you almost wouldn't know it. The trail cut is exquisite! (Seriously, when do you use that word for trail!?) Beautiful shaded pine forest, and consistent, steep grade. We did it in about an hour, and I remember thinking that JJ would probably motor up it in half the time. It would actually be a great trail for running (if you're a crazy person into that sort of thing!)

Turtle Mountain 219
We hiked this trail 1.5 miles around the north side of Monte Vista Peak to the summit spur trail. It's climbs gently through some patchy burn areas but is generally in great shape and there are no problems to hike it.

Monte Vista Peak
There's a short .2 mile spur from the Turtle Mtn/Raspberry Ridge/Monte Vista junction up the east slope of the peak. The views from the lookout were the highlight of the weekend. Make this one mandatory if you're in the area.

Turtle Mountain 219
We backtracked 1.5 miles to the top of Morse where we had come up earlier but continued on Turtle Mountain 2 more miles traversing around Johnson Peak and some other small peaks and ridges. This section of trail was in great condition and included a brief uphill stretch. There were a couple of short sections with easy deadfall, but for the most part this is pleasant hiking in unburned, healthy pine forest.

Pole Bridge 264
Upon reaching the saddle at the top of Pole Bridge Canyon, we began the steep descent. This trail was in fine shape and reasonably nice, but nothing compared to Morse Canyon. The first mile is steep, and features numerous switchbacks through an exposed burn area. There were a couple of spots where finding the trail took a second glance, but nothing treacherous. The grade moderated at the bottom of the canyon and the trail just followed the drainage, which was dry until the last mile or so when we encountered some pools of water. The bottom part of the trail appears to have once been an old road, and an older fire had burned through the area. Recent trail maintenance has made it fairly easy to follow, but the burn has left little shade and the lower elevation here makes it considerably warmer than the rest of the hike.

From the bottom of Pole Bridge, we had to hoof it a mile back up the road to camp in order to finish the loop. There were joined Kyle and Claire enjoying beverages by the fire before packing up and heading for delicious tacos at BKs in Tucson on the way home! :)
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Not sure why this is called Morse Canyon, but the creek at the point this is marked on the map was flowing nicely.

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The lower mile had some small stagnant pools and areas with very light clear flow. The entire upper canyon was dry.
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Sep 16 2015
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 Joined Feb 17 2010
 Apache Junction,
Pole Bridge-Morse Canyon Loop, AZ 
Pole Bridge-Morse Canyon Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Sep 16 2015
AZLumberjackTriplogs 494
Hiking8.78 Miles 2,718 AEG
Hiking8.78 Miles   7 Hrs   31 Mns   1.56 mph
2,718 ft AEG   1 Hour   53 Mns Break
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1st trip
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Hiking and camping West Turkey Creek in the Chiricahua Mountains.


Randy (rwstorm) and I had a bad storm experience recently when camping on Mt. Graham in the Safford area, so we (Randy) put together another plan where we could get out for a couple of days of camping and get in some hiking too. A camping threesome included Paul (Randy's Tucson friend), Randy and myself. The convoy met up East of Tucson and we drove to Sycamore Campground on East Turkey Creek Road (FR 41) where we set up camp. The Forest Service maintained campground has about 6 large campsites and a clean bathroom surrounded by tall pines and even taller peaks all along a strong flowing Turkey Creek.

With the campsite quickly setup, I immediately took off to explore the areas along Turkey Creek. A short distance downstream from our camp was a super scenic waterfall where the creek tumbled noisily over about 12 feet of broken bedrock and into a thick brushy basin filled with colorful rocks surrounding it. I somehow managed to get down below the falls and took several photos looking up into the torrent of falling water. The 2015 Monsoon season may have ruined any number of camping and hiking events in Southeastern Arizona but it was a blessing on the streams that flow out of the Mountains in the Sky Islands and this mountain was no exception.

With wet shoes and sox, I sloshed my way back to camp, changed into dry shoes and sox and now all three of us began exploring the upstream portions of the creek. Randy was familiar with the upper portions of the creek so we followed his lead. It was only a short distance before we came to a concrete dam that had an approximate 15 foot vertical fall, tucked into a narrow canyon, where once again I'm on the verge of getting wet feet, but managed to get some shots of this falls too. Then it was just around the next corner along the trail and another falls came into view..... Whew, this is mind blowing. This 10 foot falls splits between the solid rock on either side as it gushes into a pool of swirling water at its base. I had to climb out on the face of the cliffs and stretch out to achieve some advantage where I could capture a shot of this falls, and even this wasn't enough to get the full effect of the scene.

We hiked a short distance up Mormon Canyon until it crossed Mormon Creek and followed that creek back down to where it entered Turkey Creek. This short vertical stretch of stream was full of riffles, falls and rapids as the creek flowed through a narrow canyon that, at times, was filled with boulders, thick brush and fallen trees.... and yes, I was walking again in wet footwear after a not very graceful but slippery crossing.

After all that excitement, we made our way back to camp where we indulged in some cold beverages and began preparing our evening meals while attempting to build a fire for later.... and changing, again, into dry footwear. The evening temps were in the mid 60's so a long sleeve shirt was the order and avoiding the smoke from the fire, the unspoken rule.... so not too much past sundown, it was time to call it a day.

The next morning it was a quick breakfast, a sip of coffee and off to the Pole Bridge Trail #264 a short distance down the road. Our intention was to hike up Pole Bridge Canyon to a saddle where it connects with Turtle Mountain Trail #219, follow that trail around the 8,890 foot Johnson Peak to another saddle where it connects with the Morse Canyon Trail #43 that will take us back to FR 41 for an easy stroll 1-1/2 miles back to our camp. The whole hike should be about 8 miles. [ description ] To view Randy's Route [ gps route ]

Some days it seems that nothing goes the way the plans were laid out, and this was going to be one of them days. As we left the road heading up Pole Bridge Canyon, we ran into an extensive growth of up to 5 feet tall grass that was in its seeding stage and gave off clouds of microscopic spores when disturbed. Soon Paul was sneezing and coughing from an allergic reaction to the dust. His reaction was so bad and the grass continued on for a long distance so he was forced to bail. Paul would therefore hike up Morse Canyon Trail and on up to the lookout tower at 9,355 foot Monte Vista Peak, then back to the saddle/trail junction where we would meet up for the return back to camp.

So Randy and I bushwhacked (literally) through the tall grass, constantly loosing the trail, and did I mention that the grass was wet from last night's dew? Well I was wet again as we continued up a hit-and-miss trail with but a few cairns hidden somewhere under the tall grass. Finally we got away from the major grassy areas and began to follow a somewhat readable trail heading up the side of the mountain. As the mountain got steeper, we began hitting an extensive network of switchbacks that seemed to be taking us further away from our goal at the saddle and through a burnout area that left lots of dead trees lying across the trail. Some trees were small enough to scramble over, others we could crawl under and the real nasty ones we had to go around em, but we kept heading up-hill, up, up up for 3.8 miles and around 2,000 feet of elevation gain. Occasionally we would reach a burnt area where we had views of the surrounding peaks, some with trees, others rocky outcroppings, but then it was back into the forest.

We finally reached a saddle that looked like it should be our trail junction with Turtle Mountain Trail, but with all the downed trees and a burnt post where a sign once stood, we couldn't be sure if we were at the right place. So after consulting Randy's torn and barely readable map, we headed East towards where the lookout tower should be, all the while following an old fence line and searching for the trail. At one point we decided that we were no longer on the trail and we should head up to a ridgeline and check Randy's map again. It was then that I found a small cairn and what looked like a trail going through a tangle of downed trees, new growth pines and New Mexico Locust. Our trail completely disappeared on a downed-tree-strewn ridge but we finally had our first views of the lookout tower, so we had a landmark, but no good way to get there so we bushwhacked again until we found the semblance of a trail again that took us to another saddle where trails met.

We checked Randy's map again, which by now, was two pieces of paper, and determined that we should head South, keeping the lookout tower in view. We got down that trail about half a mile where I pulled out my cell phone with Route Scout running and our trail showed that we were going farther away from our saddle where Paul should be waiting for us.... so we made an about face and returned to our last likely location and....yup, get out the map again. This time as Randy interpreted the map I looked around, and to my astonishment, found some aged signs that were barely readable but hadn't been burnt. These were the signs that would show us the way to the saddle and Morse Canyon Trail... and Paul, patiently waiting for us with a couple of cold brewski's. Okay, I made up that part about patient Paul and the cold brews but it was the right trail we were looking for.

For the last couple of miles my legs were cramping up and I had to keep moving to keep them from turning into a pair of twisted, worthless clubs so I kept plodding on towards the trail junction. When we got to the saddle, no Paul and no brewski's, but there was another sign that directed us down Morse Canyon to FR 41. This final dash was a 2 mile stretch of continuous downhill that would bring us down threw more than 2,000 feet of twisting zig-zag switchbacks and I wasn't sure if my legs were going to make it or not, but after what seemed like an interminable amount of agony and time, I could see the signs at the trailhead.

From the Trailhead, we walked the final mile and a half of freshly graded gravel road back to our camp, where the first thing I did was to grab that cold brew, that wonderful cold brew that was what kept me going those last miles, then after washing up in the creek, I started applying the muscle relaxers and rubbing my sore legs back from near oblivion. I don't know why my legs cramped up during our hike, it's something that has never happened before although, I frequently get night time cramps following a strenuous hike..... must be that darn “old age” creeping up on me.

In conclusion, I would have to say that this hike rated pretty low on my list of favorites but mostly due to trail conditions following the past forest fires and a lack of signage to help point out trails and names. Good distance scenery shots are very few and far between, even from the peaks and ridgelines. There are no points of interest like abandoned mines or areas of historic value (with the exception of John Ringo's grave).... but there are many challenges to the hiker whose hiking style demands it, like trail finding and peak bagging.
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The Sycamore trees are showing the first signs of color.

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Lots of water flowing following a wet Monsoon season. Check out the water falls along the creek.

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Completely dry in the upper canyon but a nice flow in the lower parts.

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Just enough flow to make a pleasant noise.
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Apr 27 2013
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53 female
 Joined May 15 2009
 Phoenix and Tucs
Monte Vista LO via Pole Bridge/Morse Can, AZ 
Monte Vista LO via Pole Bridge/Morse Can, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 27 2013
cindylTriplogs 249
Hiking11.16 Miles 3,330 AEG
Hiking11.16 Miles
3,330 ft AEG
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1st trip
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southpawaz hadn't been to this lookout before, so finally, it was one that i could show him. i pointed him in the direction that i had gone before, and he pointed me this direction. since i'm all for loopy hikes, i thought this was a winner. at its base, it's about half as much elevation and half as much distance as i had done before going to this peak. but then you add - you add the road walk, and you add the peak bagging. uh, oh. that means it's just about the same as i had done before.

anyway, great hike - especially not seeing hardly anyone on the trail. we did find that the lookout was on duty :) so i was pleased. and i was able to ask the guy my usual questions. his duty schedule is 10 days on, 4 days off. he had been working for the douglas ranger station for 28 years, and 20 of them had been on lookout duty. he reads; that's what he does to occupy his time. this was his second day of the season on duty. he had quite a few opinions about what went wrong two years ago as well.

the hike down was uneventful. i found my muscle memory of the hike down. fast in many places without rocks.

we got home to camp, where we had set up the tent. and sunday morning we took a little stroll up mormon canyon so we could see the dam and the waterfall above. good times.

also, bobby hadn't been down this road before. so i felt obliged to show him johnny ringo's gravesite on our way out.
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Apr 27 2013
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 Joined Mar 18 2008
 Phoenix, AZ
Monte Vista LOT via Pole Bridge/Morse, AZ 
Monte Vista LOT via Pole Bridge/Morse, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 27 2013
southpawazTriplogs 94
Hiking11.16 Miles 3,330 AEG
Hiking11.16 Miles
3,330 ft AEG
 
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1st trip
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cindyl
Two years ago I had plans to hike to this tower from the south, but by the time the scheduled weekend came around the Horseshoe 2 Fire was in full fury. The Forest Service honored our reservation for the Rucker group site (though with a switch in location), so we spent a weekend camped on the side of the road east of Fort Rucker, watching the fire crews trying to hold a fire line along the crest of Raspberry Ridge. The Monte Vista Tower was a focal point, as they were using the area around it as a helipad to shuttle personnel up onto the mountain.

Cindyl and I chose a different route than I had planned then, and a different one than she had done previously. We drove in and set up camp Saturday morning at the Sycamore Campground, then walked down the road just a bit to get to the Pole Bridge Trailhead. From there we followed the Pole Bridge Trail up and then around to the south end of Johnson Peak, where we picked up the Turtle Mountain Trail which took us around to the Tower. Both trails have been cleared of deadfall since the fire, though there was just a little bit of new deadfall from the past winter. Pole Bridge Canyon did not burn too badly, but at a few of the creek crossings the trail was hard to spot due to severe post-fire erosion and rock deposition.

Once we got up to where we had a view, we passed through some areas that burned more severely; in spots new pines have come up. Parts of the Turtle Mountain Trail were little more than a foot's width of tread or less traversing slopes that have lost all their soil. Our first view of the Lookout Tower came before we reached Johnson Peak, but we still had a fair ways to go around to get there. Once we passed the Morse Canyon Junction, we saw signs of recent stock travel on the trail, and soon thereafter we met a trio on their way down from the tower who passed on the good news that a lookout was on duty.

We reached the tower and after looking around a bit, we were invited up and had a nice visit with the lookout and his two dogs, who had just gone on duty for the season yesterday. A longtime Douglas District employee, he had been stationed at Barfoot Lookout prior to the Horseshoe 2 fire.

After our visit we started back down the way we had come up, until we reached the Morse Canyon Trail, which we headed down to loop our hike. We made good time going down, stopping a few times for flower photos along the way. Once we reached the trailhead, we had about a mile left of road walk back to the campground. Due to a bit of a late start, we had only pitched the tent when we arrived, so we finished setting up camp, and had dinner cooked and eaten before sundown.
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 Loveland, CO
Chiricahua & Monte Vista Peak LoopTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 19 2010
hhwolf14Triplogs 173
Hiking11.50 Miles 4,240 AEG
Hiking11.50 Miles   5 Hrs   50 Mns   1.97 mph
4,240 ft AEG
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1st trip
Did a little variation of this hike, up Pole Bridge Canyon Trail to Turtle Trail to the Monte Vista Lookout, around the Crest Trail, and down Mormon Ridge Trail. Tough climb, but beautiful. There's about an inch of snow in places on the trail, but the real challenge is the deadfall on Mormon Ridge. A better option wound be down Mormon Canyon, I think.
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