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Hideout Loop Trail - 3 members in 5 triplogs have rated this an average 2.3 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Feb 13 2026
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 Phoenix, AZ
South Mountain Valley Wander, AZ 
South Mountain Valley Wander, AZ
 
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GrangerGuyTriplogs 124
Hiking6.21 Miles 746 AEG
Hiking6.21 Miles   4 Hrs   8 Mns   1.95 mph
746 ft AEG      57 Mns Break
 
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Hau’pal Loop, Crosscut, Max Delta, Hideout Loop, Las Lomitas, and Ma-Ha-Tuak Perimeter Trails.

Our last time out in South Mountain in the central valley area, we discovered there is a big disconnect between what is signposted on the trails and the available maps. I thought I’d try to sort out what was really going on.

We arrived at the 19th Ave. Trailhead about 7:45 on a Friday morning and got one of the last 2 parking spots. Leaving the lot, we headed up the left fork of the Hau’pal Loop Trail. This is a fairly recent name change for this segment. Some maps call it the T-Bone Loop Trail. The trail climbs steadily south and at about 0.8 mile intersects with the Crosscut Trail. At this intersection, the Hau’pal Loop Trail turns sharply right and heads up the hill, while the Crosscut Trail continues left toward the Big Ramada and straight ahead.

We followed the Crosscut Trail down to its end at an intersection with the Max Delta Trail, about 1.3 miles from the parking lot. We took a right a hundred yards on Max Delta, to find the end of the Las Lomitas Trail, also a relatively new designation for this segment. Las Lomitas crosses the main park road and heads generally southeast. There is no parking here.

We hiked northeast on the Max Delta Trail about ¾ mile, meeting the Crosscut Traill and turning right (southeast) on it. We were now on a route heavily used by horses. In about 0.2 mile we came to some corrals, and the trailhead for the Ranger Trail. There is parking here.

Continuing northeast from the corrals, we quickly came to its intersection with start and finish of the Hideout Loop Trail. This loop appears to have been heavily trafficked by horses in the past, but not recently. Although still signposted, this loop does not appear on any park maps I could find. The Hideout Loop Trail is cute, though, passing through rocks reminiscent of a desert hideout from old westerns.

Leaving the Hideout Loop Trail, we continued northeast on the Crosscut Trail, which drops into a sandy wash and follows the wash, occasionally signposted. This is not a nice walking trail unless you like sand and horse deposits. The trail continues in the wash about 0.9 miles and finally comes out, unmarked, behind the ruins at “Scorpion Gulch” just outside the park main gate. It was not obvious that this was the end of the trail, but we stopped in at the nearby visitor center, and they shared a link to a map they actually maintain, and keep on the wall at the center. Link to the map: https://www.canva.com/design/DAGiZAzjWE ... f0e682ded5

From the visitor center, we headed back southwest on the Las Lomitas Trail. About 0.6 miles, we followed an unnamed connector that heads back to the Crosscut Trail. We then followed the Crosscut Trail up to the Big Ramada, where we found locked restrooms.

Heading out the back of the Big Ramada, we followed the Ma-Ha-Tuak Perimeter Trail back to the 19th Ave. Parking, which by noon was nearly empty.
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Alta Hau'Pal Crosscut Las Lomitas Ranger, AZ 
Alta Hau'Pal Crosscut Las Lomitas Ranger, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jan 31 2026
GrangerGuyTriplogs 124
Hiking6.34 Miles 1,458 AEG
Hiking6.34 Miles   4 Hrs   37 Mns   1.71 mph
1,458 ft AEG      55 Mns Break
 
1st trip
We started at the Trailhead Parking at the San Juan Road Gate, where the Steven Mather Drive ends and the Telegraph Pass Road starts heading up the hill. There is usually ample parking at this trailhead.

We hiked up the Alta trail to its intersection with the Hau’Pal Loop trail, then headed west along the ridge. From this ridge, the views are tremendous to the north across Phoenix and Glendale, with a panorama from the White Tank Mountains to the west, the city peaks of Shaw Butte, North Mountain, Piestewa, and Camelback, with the mountains of Cave Creek in the background, sweeping all the way to the Four Peaks in the east. The ridge is challenging walking, up and down, sometimes steeply.

The sounds of Shooting at the Phoenix Rod and Gun Club and the Phoenix Police Academy just below on Olney Ave. are significant on a Saturday morning. From this high viewpoint, it seems like the Western Canal runs along the surface and suddenly disappears at Dobbins Road, but it actually continues westward, in smaller canals.

An hour into our hike, we encountered the trail heading down to the 19th Ave Trailhead. It was marked Hau’Pal loop trail. From that intersection, the Hau’Pal Loop seems to head both east and west along the ridge and north down to 19th Ave. I was hoping to write a current guide of the Hau’Pal, but it will have to wait until I can hike the rest of its branches.

The trail is rugged, but the views are fantastic. It’s a knife edge ridge so you see north to the Phoenix panorama and south into the park. Looking down, one could see that the 19th Ave. parking lot is full, and cars come in circling, looking for spots. 19th Ave. is indicated “No Parking,” but there is side street parking a quarter mile away at Lodge Drive by the T-Bone Steakhouse. At times, a little scrambling is necessary.

About 2 hours into our hike, the trail switchbacks sharply off the ridge, down to its intersection with the Crosscut Trail. That intersection indicates the Crosscut goes east and south, while the Hau’Pal heads north toward the 19th Ave. trailhead. HAZ shows the trail to the right and left as tha Ma Ha Tuak Trail, but another trail (Link) now has that name. The printable trail map provided on the City of Phoenix site is pretty useless here. We followed the Crosscut Trail over to corrals where it intersected the Ranger Trail and continued a short distance to the Holdout Loop Trail. The Crosscut Trail continues east from that junction, which doesn’t match any maps, but it is a popular horseback trail.

We followed the east branch of the Hideout Loop Trail intending to follow an old HAZ route indicating an intersection with the Las Lomitas Trail, but that trail has been abandoned and obliterated. We eventually picked up the Las Lomitas Trail, and followed it back to the Kiwanis Trailhead, then continued west on the Las Lomitas to its intersection with the Ranger Trail. After a short stint on the Ranger heading south, we came to the start of the Bajada Trail, which took us back to the car. These valley trails seem to experience a lot of renaming and rerouting and cross several now-closed roads and pass several closed picnic areas. I’ll try to get some complete updates to HAZ guides over time.
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T-Bone Loop Trail - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,543
Hiking6.04 Miles 1,423 AEG
Hiking6.04 Miles   1 Hour   53 Mns   3.29 mph
1,423 ft AEG      3 Mns Break
 
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SoMo Infinity Loop, AZ 
SoMo Infinity Loop, AZ
 
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,543
Hiking32.85 Miles 7,259 AEG
Hiking32.85 Miles   12 Hrs   15 Mns   2.93 mph
7,259 ft AEG   1 Hour   2 Mns Break
 
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Route idea by Mel, earnestly completed with her on a beautifully misty day in early November. :y:
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Hideout Loop TrailPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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mt98dewTriplogs 2,482
Run/Jog3.02 Miles 43 AEG
Run/Jog3.02 Miles      45 Mns   4.03 mph
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Did this hike on Satirday. Started from the Kiwanis TH just around 7am. Tried to get a picture of the the full moon, but my Garmin, which I had left in my car over, kept freezing (no pun intended) whenever I tried to take a picture. I doubt if my Garmin would have captured the beauty, but it was very annoying ](*,) . Ended up doing a mini loop de loop. Went CCW on the Lomitas trail. After exiting the "mini canyon"/wash (maybe .75 miles), I took a user trail south until I came to access road, which brought me to the first trail marker for the Hideout Loop. Then did the very short loop, that is the Hideout trail. The south side of the trail, which parallels an access road is "neh". The eastern part of the trail is kind of cool as it presents a snapshot into South Mountain's past. This area has been closed off for many years and so the road and structures have been left to age. (This may change with the park renovation that is ongoing). The northern/"canyon side" is actually a neat area. The trail interacts nicely with the wash and their is an intimate feeling brought on by the low rising hills. This loop is less than .5 miles long, so all sides of this loop are very fleeting. This trail is very easy to follow, as it is a common path used by a nearby stable, but there are only markers for this trail on the east side. The trail posts have the old decals, so there is a chance that this trail may eventual fade into South Mountains past. After completing the loop, I crossed the access road, and briefly used the Crosscut Loop trail, before connecting to the Ranger Trail. Took the Ranger Trail to where it intersects with the Lomitas and took that back to the Kiwanis TH.

While there, I did a brief exploration of the area just north of the bathrooms, which are just north of the Kiwanis TH. On an earlier visit I had noticed some "stairs" cut into the side of the hill and wanted to check it out. Not much too see, except a very old looking drinking fountain (can we say lead poisoning) and the cement base for what might have been for a barbecue or table. Lot of signs of graffiti. Nice little loop. No wildlife. Saw 3 hikers on the Lomitas and one on the Ranger.
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