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May 29 2025
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52 male
 Joined Sep 18 2002
 Tempe, AZ
SoMoRning, AZ 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking5.86 Miles 1,270 AEG
Hiking5.86 Miles   2 Hrs   11 Mns   2.70 mph
1,270 ft AEG      1 Min Break
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Took advantage of cloud cover to enjoy a morning jaunt in the desert. Saw a benchmark on the map and went over to look for it. I was a little surprised to find it intact. Headed down Hidden Valley all the way for the first time in a hot minute. Always a pleasure in there.
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May 13 2025
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 Ahwatukee, AZ
Hidden Valley via Pima CanyonPhoenix, AZ
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,600
Hiking6.65 Miles 1,595 AEG
Hiking6.65 Miles   2 Hrs   26 Mns   2.79 mph
1,595 ft AEG      3 Mns Break
 
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Another evening hike with HAZ’s most blocked member. Got started from Pima Canyon and promptly got lost in the parking lot as we decided what exactly we wanted to hike. Chumley not only put together a loop that had us blinded by the late afternoon sun, but somehow managed to seemingly feel like it was uphill 90% of the time. Impressive really. I whined accordingly.

We made our way west on Beacon Hill, Ridgeline, and Mormon Loop/Javelina Canyon. Warm, but a strong breeze kept things comfortable. After Mormon, we went through the tunnel end of Hidden Valley, then up past the crosses to Guadalupe Ridge. Three crosses now, large wood ones, two look newer than the third. Temps cooled nicely after the sun set. East on the Ridge, then finished up on Marcos De Niza.

Nice evening. Good workout. And an abundance of topics for us both to find plenty to complain about.
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May 13 2025
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52 male
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 Tempe, AZ
Mormon Marcos Loop, AZ 
Mormon Marcos Loop, AZ
 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking6.88 Miles 1,482 AEG
Hiking6.88 Miles   2 Hrs   26 Mns   2.83 mph
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Went counterclockwise and it was awful. Ridgeline and Mormon are awful. Guadalupe and Marcos have tons more uphill than they should. Go the other way.

Removed a couple of painted rocks. Did you know if you wipe "love" into toilet paper with your poop, you can leave it wherever you want? It's not trash if there's a positive message on it!
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Apr 16 2025
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45 female
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Hidden Valley via Guadalupe RidgePhoenix, AZ
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,600
Hiking6.62 Miles 1,300 AEG
Hiking6.62 Miles   2 Hrs   18 Mns   2.94 mph
1,300 ft AEG      3 Mns Break
 
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Got started from Pima Canyon at 1800. Chumley and I hadn’t decided which trails we wanted to do, so we headed up Marcos to decide from there. Warm, but some shade. Abundant whining. Continued up Guadalupe Ridge, then dropped into Hidden Valley at Fat Mans Pass. After Hidden Valley we came down Mormon Loop, then finished on the dirt road. Pleasant enough temps by the finish. Good workout hike, and fun to grab a quick evening hike with Chumley before temps get too warm.
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Apr 16 2025
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 Tempe, AZ
Hidden Valley via Guadalupe RidgePhoenix, AZ
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking6.78 Miles 1,249 AEG
Hiking6.78 Miles   2 Hrs   19 Mns   2.93 mph
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Mercifully not-so-quick night loop starting an hour before sunset on a 92 degree day. Mostly shaded which helped. Even a little breeze later on. Nobody else out there beyond the initial Marcos climb and a single biker on the Pima road. A guy living in his truck in the parking lot seems to be set up for eviction.
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Apr 16 2025
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 Joined Mar 01 2018
 Chandler, AZ
SoMo San Gabriel - Young - Guadalupe, AZ 
SoMo San Gabriel - Young - Guadalupe, AZ
 
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John10sTriplogs 346
Hiking7.72 Miles 1,911 AEG
Hiking7.72 Miles   3 Hrs   12 Mns   2.48 mph
1,911 ft AEG      5 Mns Break
 
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TboneKathy mentioned she was going to SoMo for an early hike, and I was happy to have an excuse to get out again and tagged along. She'd never been on any of the trails south of Guadalupe Ridge, so we went down San Gabriel, hiked a little on Desert Classic, then up Young Man--all new ones for her. We dropped down into Hidden Valley from the ridge and looped back from there. Pleasant morning, just a little warm at the end. Saw a horseback rider on the return to the trailhead, and the Pima parking lot was getting some new lines painted as we finished up.
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Jan 30 2025
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Old Man Loop, AZ 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking5.04 Miles 1,362 AEG
Hiking5.04 Miles   1 Hour   55 Mns   2.63 mph
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Another perfect afternoon I couldn't pass up. Hadn't been on a couple of these in a hot minute.

The crosses in Hidden Valley are gone, but a new on has been placed, while what might be one of the old ones is laying down under an overhang. Odd stuff.

San Gabriel Ridge is now called Guadalupe Perimeter. Huh.
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Jan 07 2025
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 Ahwatukee, AZ
Guadalupe Ridge - AKA Midlife Crisis / ScottPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,600
Hiking8.59 Miles 1,486 AEG
Hiking8.59 Miles   3 Hrs   51 Mns   2.27 mph
1,486 ft AEG      4 Mns Break
 
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I was originally going to hike Camelback this morning, but decided I don’t really like that mountain. Besides if the facebook lunatic’s weather forecast comes true (it’s not), we’re all going to die of a windstorm or Valley Fever tonight, and I really don’t want Camelback to be my final hike. Plus I didn’t feel like hiking around a ton of people.

Got started from Pima Canyon around 0745, headed up Marcos de Niza. Cool and cloudy, so I was happy. Continued up Guadalupe Ridge. Very few hikers until I reached National. The local nursing homes must be trying to free up space, and seem to have sent all the residents out to hike National, in hopes they don’t all make it back. I passed two large, very slow, groups and managed to keep the chit chat to a minimum as I jogged past, slowing down as soon as they could no longer see I hate running.

Headed down Hidden Valley. One guy tried to mansplain the best route thru the dryfall. His opinion of the best route was 100% wrong, and I continued along the actual best route. I don’t think I will ever be inclined to take route advice from hikers wearing jeans, that’s an instant disqualification. After the tunnel, I stayed in the wash the rest of the way down, then returned to the trailhead on Pima Wash.

On the way home, I stopped by a Circle K and pulled into the first row of dispensers. A guy on the other side of the fuel island told me I was at the wrong spot and only the last row on the other side had diesel 🤦‍♀️. He looked very doubtful when I said I absolutely wanted to get gas, since I have been putting gas in this truck for two years now and I’m pretty sure adding diesel would cause a problem. I have lost track of how many times I’ve had this exact conversation…

So much for avoiding people today, but still a good workout. The clouds mostly stuck around, which was a bonus.
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Dec 09 2024
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Hidden Valley via Guadalupe RidgePhoenix, AZ
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,600
Hiking11.60 Miles 2,111 AEG
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Met Kelly & Bruce at Pima Canyon and got started around 0800. Headed up Marcos De Niza, then up Guadalupe Ridge. I think my Garmin watch told me a few times I was about to die on the uphill portions. Plus my left foot has been hurting for about a week, and I’ve done nothing beneficial to aid in that recovery. Might have to take a few days off. The mild scrambling on the ridge is one of my favorite parts of SoMo.

Dropped down to National and headed east. Came into Hidden Valley at Fat Man’s Pass and stayed in Hidden Valley and the lower wash. Made an extra trip through and across the bridge. Side trip to a mine, which has some granite I really like. Spotted a few glyphs, most of which I’d seen before, but a couple were new to me. The wash is also a fun area to explore.

Kelly made her departure when the wash reached National, and Bruce & I made our way over to some short stretches of Mormon Loop & Javelina to get to Ridgeline. Despite being at the busy end of the park, Ridgeline is a surprisingly good workout, roller coastering along with some steep sections of loose footing. After Ridgeline, we took the eastern half of Pima Canyon Loop along the eastern boundary of the park, and around Beacon Hill back to the trailhead. I whined through the short uphill section, but the extra mileage was good.

Nice to hike with Bruce and Kelly again. Fun loop with some nice stretches of solitude. Even the busier sections had few hikers today.
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Feb 14 2024
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 Joined Jan 07 2010
 Chandler, AZ
Guadalupe Ridge - AKA Midlife Crisis / ScottPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Mike_FelsTriplogs 510
Hiking8.51 Miles 2,071 AEG
Hiking8.51 Miles   3 Hrs   55 Mns   2.27 mph
2,071 ft AEG      10 Mns Break
 
A little after my last hike I had a bit of an accident, ended up lifting my big toe nail way up. When I looked at it it was sitting a good 1/8 inch above the toe, I could see through under it. So for a month I took off from hiking. Figured today was a good day to try the toe out in a hiking boot. It did well. No problems.

I started my hike at 6:50 this morning from the Pima Canyon parking lot. Other than my car there were only 6 cars along the road or in the lot. And one of the 6 was just there to watch the sun rise. That's the least I have seen there in many years. Not one bike was seen on the Mormon Loop or the little bit of the Nat'l I was on. Yahoo. Other than a group of about a dozen people congregated on the Ridgeline trail there were maybe another dozen people seen. Do people not hike when it's Valentines Day?

It was cool, about 47 degrees with a breeze when on the ridge. But as usual I quickly warmed up, barely halfway through the Marcos trail. By a mile into the Guad trail I was stripping off clothes (shirts that is). I saw my first spring wildflowers, small blue ones.
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Mike_FelsTriplogs 510
Hiking8.81 Miles 1,863 AEG
Hiking8.81 Miles   4 Hrs   2 Mns   2.29 mph
1,863 ft AEG      11 Mns Break
 
Today was one of those days when you felt good, but found that on a strenuous trail there just wasn't the energy to finish. So I cut over to the National Trail after about 2 miles. Then all felt well. I didn't get quite the AEG I was after, but such is life. It was very cool starting at 6 AM with the breeze. I did run into one oddity I had never seen before, there was a wooden cross laid fairly flat inside a bunch of boulders. It must have been about 6 feet long. I assume it was some kind of memorial. I guess I had never looked in this spot before.
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Hidden Valley via Guadalupe RidgePhoenix, AZ
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,600
Hiking5.44 Miles 1,209 AEG
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Started with Jill at 0530. Headed up Marcos, which seems like it has a few new signs. Up Guadalupe Ridge, then dropped into the east end of Hidden Valley. Took the wash back down, finishing up on the road. Cool to start, but quickly warmed up. Saw one blacktail in the wash, not far above the big dryfall.
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Apr 22 2023
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Hidden Valley via Guadalupe RidgePhoenix, AZ
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,600
Hiking7.49 Miles 1,365 AEG
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Met Jill, Janelle, and Michelle at the trailhead at 0600. Headed up Marcos De Niza. Cool for about the first five minutes, then warm with no breeze. Continued up Guadalupe Ridge and took it west most of the way before dropping down to National. East on Natl, then down Hidden Valley. Stayed in the wash after that. Encountered one large swarm of bees in the wash, backtracked a little, then bypassed them on the right. Finished the final mile on the road.
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Feb 22 2023
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Hidden Valley via Guadalupe RidgePhoenix, AZ
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Hiking8.96 Miles 2,160 AEG
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Dec 10 2022
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 Gilbert, AZ
South Mountain Meander, AZ 
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ddgrunningTriplogs 604
Hiking9.71 Miles 2,102 AEG
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I haven't been able to get out the past couple of weekends, due to work commitments, so I was looking forward to stretching the legs on the trail this weekend. I didn't have anything flashy planned, so just hit up the convenient South Mountain. Started at the San Gabriel Ridge TH--a first for me. Not too many cars there when I arrived around 6:45 am.

I didn't have a particular agenda, and ended up heading along the Guadalupe Ridge and then descending cross-country to Fat Mans Pass. After that, I off-trailed it to a couple of high points that looked interesting. Then descended to connect with the Mormon Trail and back through Hidden Valley. I took National east, and then jumped back up on the ridgeline via the last part of the San Gabriel Ridge trail. I followed the ridge all the way to the Pima TH, which was absolutely packed, and I was reminded why I avoid starting at that location.

I headed back up the National trail west and then climbed over the ridgeline again via Beverly Canyon trail and took the Desert Classic back to my starting point.

A lot of high tech, electric-assisted mountain bikes on the trail.
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Was able to squeeze in a quick hike this morning and opted for part of Guadalupe Ridge since temps have come down to almost reasonable number. Still too much sun for me though. Up Marcos De Niza, Guadalupe Ridge. Dropped into the east end of Hidden Valley, then down the wash. Nice morning.
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Aug 04 2022
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Marcos Pima Hidden Loop, AZ 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking6.64 Miles 1,401 AEG
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The forecast was looking promising last night so I set an early alarm hoping for some overnight rain cooled air, clouds, and maybe some flowing water.

The storm was in full swing when I woke up and heading out into the electrically charged atmosphere was not looking smart so I watched the radar and stream gauges for an hour or so until the main dynamics passed to the west and then I headed out.

The ranger had just opened the gate and the thick overcast kept dawn's early light from doing much. A pleasant rain continued to fall and some remnant flashes of lightning rippled across the sky.

There must have been some kind of dog event before I started as the muddy trail was covered with canine footprints! ;)

Despite the rain and pleasantry of the morning, there was no surface water flowing so I stuck to the main trail. Climbing out of the wash provided a welcome cool breeze and relief from the more stagnant and humid air in the canyon bottom. This led me to adjust my plan of going down Pima Wash and instead headed up to the ridge.

Along the way I passed the crosses in Hidden Valley, a first for me, (except for that other time :sweat: ) As I neared the finish, I could see a handful of folks headed up the Pima road, the only other bipeds I saw all day. Temps ranged from 73 to 79 which is about as nice as you can expect an August morning here to be.

I awoke a beautiful speck that was peacefully sleeping in the rain, blissfully unaware of my presence, and got to witness a roadrunner take to the skies. I'm not sure I've seen one fly before, but it was set keeping me from threatening to steal the lizard it held in its beak, because I was getting hungry at that point and apparently I looked like I wanted to steal it!
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Jul 25 2022
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,600
Hiking6.10 Miles 1,494 AEG
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Met Katie at Pina Canyon at 0500 and headed up Marcos De Niza. Cloudy and humid, but not terribly hot. Continued west on Guadalupe Ridge, then dropped down to Hidden Valley near the tunnel.

Headed over to Mormon Loop and down that trail. While I had been concerned about rattlers in the rocks on Guadalupe Ridge, it turned out being blinded by early morning sun on Mormon Loop should have been the bigger concern. Katie nearly stepped on, then jumped over a small speckled on the trail. The snake never rattled, but did not appreciate our presence.

Continued east on Ridgeline and Beacon Hill to finish out the loop. Drenched in sweat by the time we finished, but good to see Katie again and get a solid workout hike to start out the week.
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Jul 25 2022
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Hiking6.10 Miles 1,494 AEG
Hiking6.10 Miles   2 Hrs   45 Mns   2.27 mph
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Was excited to see temperatures dipping slightly this week when Linda invited me out for a morning on South Mountain. 5am start out of the Pima Canyon trailhead.

Nice workout moving up and down the ridges. I jumped out of my socks (and into Linda) when a small speckled rattler came too close for comfort. Better than a cup of coffee.
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