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Elden Loop from Schultz Creek, AZ 
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Big Loop around Mt Elden using various trails. This is a great route. It was hot but I had a water stash at mile 15 which was a life saver. Felt surprisingly good :y:
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Fresh off vacation on the East Coast, I got an invite from Chums to escape to cooler country in Flagstaff. For various reasons, I'd had hikes with nothing but minimal mileage, elevation gain, or actual elevation for over a month. So, when he threw out a hike with 5,200+ feet of gain, I politely poo-pooed the invite. He came back with a more reasonable 11-mile, 3,200-foot gain hike, and I was in.

The plan was to drive into Friedlein Prairie to cut a bit more mileage off, but we quickly found a locked gate. So, back to the original idea to start at Schultz Tank, only to find another locked gate. Later searching showed that these areas close during the current Stage 2 fire restrictions. On to Plan C.

Neither of us are fans of the trail leaving the Elden Trailhead to the tower, so we headed over to the less busy Sandy Seep Trailhead, with plans to start up the Heart Trail and wing it from there. The burn is still quite evident up here, but you still get sections of unburned forest. We fashioned a loop, mostly of things I'd done before. On Brookbank #2, we smartly off-trailed and short-cutted Hill 8747 to save some mileage. It worked out. We were now starting our climb back up. The Oldham Trail has been completely rerouted going back uphill. It only touches the old trail in a couple of spots. Chums thought there were too many switchbacks. Me, being just a few years older, found them to be appropriate.

We bypassed the Elden Tower and hiked through the aspen thickness of the Sunset Trail to the Elden Lookout Trail. For me, this trail makes tired legs even more tired with all the rocks to negotiate.

Reaching the Fatman's Loop, we made the decision to go cross-country/follow use trails to get our way back to the start.

So much for taking it easy. Temperatures were mostly nice all day, especially in the shade or when the wind decided to blow. Thanks for driving, Chums. Good catching up.
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The I-17 Flex Lanes are in operation. :y:

Since Bruce hadn't been higher than 76 feet ASL in over a month, and certainly hadn't ascended more than that, I dialed back a 5k+ day plan to something that might ease beachboy into the mountains. The best laid plans ... blah blah blah ... I had forgotten that Coconino NF closes some roads near Flagstaff during stage 2 fire restrictions. People can still recreate wherever they want, because people don't pose a potential fire danger. But motor vehicles are prohibited from some dirt roads, because vehicles apparently do risky things that people do not do when not in the proximity of their vehicles. I would argue that this wouldn't stand up in court, or make any sense, except I think it may be factual that people in the proximity of their vehicles cause more fires than people not near vehicles. :-k

So, anyway, we quickly pulled up some HAZ maps and came up with other options that might justify the drive and wouldn't be a holiday weekend clusterflock. I offered up a 10mi/2kft option kicking the O'leary lantern, but ptown thought doubling it would be more fun. I have no immediate objections until I complain later. :)

I don't usually drive two hours to hike another town's version of Camelback, and apparently it's been a decade since I did this last (and first/only!).

It took about 6 miles to get up the hill, way more than I was planning. There's some interesting trail routing down below which seems to attempt to maximize mileage over efficiency, a theme we would later learn is common here. Heart is exposed, but it was a nice day so a little sun wasn't awful.

Sunset hits the burn area pretty quickly, but is still enjoyable and scenic. It has a couple of new switchbacks climbing out of the Down Under junction west of Little Elden.

Brookbank has new tread north of peak 8819 and takes a much wider loop north of 8747 and downhill west of there. We took an "offtrail" shortcut down the drainage between 8747 and 8819 (there was a nice old cut to follow) that saved about 4.5 miles off the new official Brookbank route.

From here, we discovered that Upper Oldham has been decommissioned from top to bottom. The first part follows a cut that used to be called Middle Oldham, and the rest of it is all new trail (there are apparently no longer lower, middle, or upper versions; just one complete Oldham). Formerly 2 miles, the route is now nearly doubled at 3.7 miles. Previously this was a steep trail. Now, the switchbacks are so plentiful and mild that they are ideal for ebike riders with dead batteries. Going uphill it was tolerable. Going downhill you'd lose your mind.

I'm not trained in trail building, but I'm naturally gifted in complaining about what clearly doesn't meet the quality of all those old skool CCC trails we have all become so accustomed to. This new trail cut makes a horrible attempt at a consistent grade, with numerous 10-15 foot stretches of staircase-type grade, followed immediately by a short flat or drop. There is no way to establish or maintain a comfortable hiking pace. It's probably a whole lot of fun whoopdeedoo on a bike though. And maybe that was the point?

Finally back up top, we took south Sunset up toward the summit before cutting across to the descent via Lookout. Bruce bitched more than my last 5 paragraphs, but I sort of enjoyed this stretch. Afternoon shade, cool temps, and a nicely worn path took us down quite efficiently. A refreshing change in trail design!

We took the north route on Fatman and missed a turn. Did a short XC before piecing together about 12 different unofficial user routes along the foothill slopes back to the truck. Almost certainly created by mountain bikers, these were somehow naturally created without unnecessary switchbacks. Weird.

Good to see 1-800 back out west. It was an enjoyable holiday weekend with a refreshing Sunday swimming in the back seat. ;) Whining aside, it was a great day, and I'd do it again!
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Had to search for a trail that was cool enough. High of 80 @ 8k ft Ok, I can handle that. Meet in PHX at 7 am. Start 10 am.

Took some side routes to make this different. Then looped around and up peak. Also extended it to include two more sets of towers. Was taking roads back but then found connecting trail to be decommissioned. Made our own back up to Sunset.

Back to carpool at 9:30. Bed at 11, up at 5 for work. All worth it.
 
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Starting at Oldham Trailhead on Mount Elden Lookout Road I hiked up the road to Upper Oldham Trail, and followed the old and now abandoned original route up to Oldham Park. Upper Oldham Trail has been rebuilt into a gently sloping mountain bike route now, which I suspect adds significant length when compared to the original route. I prefer shorter and steeper myself.

From Oldham Park I hiked the lookout road to the summit of Mount Elden, noting only a single surviving tree planting from 2022’s effort among the seedling shelter tubes. Brilliant sunset on the hike back down, contrasting nicely with the snow and bare aspens. Walking through mixed conifer on the snowy road was absolutely beautiful and very enjoyable. Yaktrax on my boots made the hike down Upper Oldham’s snow covered route much more pleasant.
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Evening hike starting at Oldham Trailhead on Mount Elden Lookout Road, where the lookout road is gated. I hiked up the lookout road through mud, ice and snow to Sunset Park on top of the Elden summit ridge. After enjoying the view and sunset I decided to take the road back down instead of Upper Oldham. The Museum Fire scar the road passes through is pretty sad but there is still beauty here in my opinion. A cold hike but a fun one.
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This is a fairly challenging hike incorporating several trails into a loop. Start by following the Elden Lookout Trail #4 and
Fatmans Loop Trail #25 to the top of Mount Elden at 9,299 feet. Then start your gradual descent on the “back side” of the mountain via the Sunset Trail #23. Turn right (east) on the Heart Trail #103 and follow it until it intersects the Christmas Tree Trail #160 which will merge eventually with the Fatman’s Loop trail and lead you back to the parking lot.
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Off to Flag to get into some cooler air. There was a 60% chance of T-Storms, but we were fortunate to miss the brunt of the storms. The first wave passed to our east, giving us a few sprinkles. The second two waves passed to our west, giving us some light rain for about half an hour or so.

From the Sandy Seep TH, we were one of just a handful of cars - a better, much less crowded option than the nearby Eldon TH.

I wanted to hike the complete reroute of the Heart #103 trail. The reroute is 1.5 miles longer, but the trail is much smoother, has an easier grade, and takes you through some more interesting areas. Me likey.

At the intersection of the Heart Trail and Sunset Trails, and after Joe was done with his distraction, we took a short break and continued counterclockwise (CCW) through the mixed burned and old growth conifers. In here, I spotted a large Whitetail buck, still in velvet.

On the Brookbank #2 Trail, we followed the well-worn path and either missed our turn or the trail has been rerouted. This is just one of a number of trails up here that have been rerouted since the fire. The section from Dry Lake Hills down to Eldon Lookout Road is an absolute nightmare. They may have given up on this section.

We did the road walk to The Upper Oldham Trail and noticed that they've cut in a new Oldham Trail (Middle Oldham) to the north of the road. It meets up with Upper Oldham.

Upper Oldham is in decent shape. There have been numerous washout events, so you need to keep your eyes peeled for the trail vs. wash areas. There are currently a dozen or so deadfalls that you can pretty easily bypass. This climb always sucks the air from your lungs.

Up top, we caught a great breeze to dry off and have a snack. From here, we cruised back to the TH, enjoying the downhill and checking out the old cut of the Heart Trail.

Temps ranged from 74 at the start to 86 at one point, and down to 61.5 during a couple of the rain events. Clouds kept it comfortable most of the day.

Great to get your head out of the oven every now and then.
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Sandy Seep Trail #129
Bruce switched out the grind up Elden Lookout Trail #4 I enjoy. This is a great alternative for those seeking a more casual approach to the Elden network.

Little Elden Trail #69
Intended to just hike the lower 0.85mi of this trail. 0.72 mi up it has been rerouted by the AZT thousand mile club. The former arduous 0.13mi/44ft heave is now a 0.5mi/44ft stroll around a pimple knoll.

Heart Trail #103
This trail has received a rare nice reroute. Two or three scenic settings stopped us momentarily to admire. We cached water bottles 1.9mi up in anticipation of taking the old shorter route down.

Sunset Trail #23
We took a short break at the junction and then headed up. Albeit torched in this center section of #23, the pines are back in business in under a half mile up. Passing Little Bear Trail #112 I rejoiced not having to go through the mental agony of its ridiculously long switchbacks.

Brookbank Trail #2
Heading down after lunch involved intense rough terrain. They've done a lot of work but there are a lot of fallen trees. The side limbs have been kindly removed in one spot on each to crawl over. Overall, I still enjoy the trail.
Bruce occasionally thinks to check the pine fragrance. Not sure about vanilla/Strawberry/whatever this round. It was a distinct flashback to Dad and I stopping in Flagstaff in '86 moving to Arizona. Stepping outta my Scirocco was the same impact pine fragrance, haven't noticed that in the last 37 years. It was 118° when we rolled into Phx, so at least that hasn't changed.

Upper Oldham Trail
Midway up it seemed like a remarkable pine environment. Pine shade ended and whining set sail.

Down n Out
The joy of the hike was over. Casual ascents make for draggy descents. The area is vivid green, with lots of medium-sized oaks. Nobody goes to Flag for oak foliage but there must be a nice hue when they turn.

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While I prefer steeper grades, this only got draggy a couple of times. It was a great hike to comfortably knock out ~20mi in July.
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After work hike. Started at the new trailhead/gate on Elden Lookout Road at 7500 feet. Went up the canyon using the lookout road, and then turned onto Upper Oldham Trail. Lots of flood damage on the bottom quarter mile of Upper Oldham. Not hard to follow though, and a good workout as always. At the top I walked Sunset Trail and the lookout road up to the summit of Mount Elden. Lots of pink traffic cone-like things protecting newly planted baby fir trees along Sunset Trail, made me happy to see that. Sunset on Elden was a beautiful sight featuring every color of the rainbow. Stood under the fire tower for a moment in the chilly winds and golden light and then made my retreat. Finished well after dark.
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Devised a loop off the map. Low & behold, the night before, I found Tibber had posted the same route 9 years ago. Dld it & away I went. Believe it is actually FR935 to the TH.

The old Heart trail was the highlight of the day. Sunset is more of a ridgeline climb. Then finally a short road to the peak. The elev. gained over 6 miles is quickly dumped down lookout. Fat mans is interesting. Beautiful temps & fall colors.
 
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Elden lookout road was closed so I got dropped off at the gate just off of Schultz Pass Road. Walked Elden lookout road up to the Upper Oldham trailhead. Monsoon 2021 had left some big rocky debris flows along the lower part of the trail but it was still navigable. Deadfall logs across the trail near the top had been recently cut. Turned north to follow Sunset Trail, where I encountered a few mountain bikers. Aside from a stretch of burn from the Museum Fire, Sunset was quite pretty. Lots of blue green fir trees contrasted nicely with bright gold Aspen leaves. Most trail junctions were well signed. Reached the north end of the trail and then turned west on Schultz Pass Road for a bit where my wife picked me up. A good afternoon outing.
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I have always wanted to circumnavigate the San Francisco Peaks and I finally got the chance with this event.

Long day out there with plenty of highs and lows to really make the most of it. It was a small, well run event and I had the experience I was hoping for. Beautiful weather and blazing aspen all over the place were the icing on the cake.

Michelle and Sierra surprised me and met me at the 20 mile aid station before the big climb up to the inner basin and that was probably the highlight of the day. The last 3.5 miles were in the dark.

What a day! :y:
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Gained enough confidence since the medical dilemma to post an outing to meetup. My 3rd & possible final Flagstaff trip this season. Forest road in good shape.

Saw mtn bikers during the early phase of this outing, then very few people. 🙂 Inadvertently followed a side trail till we came upon a burnt out area. Oops

Got back on track & climbed to the peak. Tower closed due to Covid. Then went to a 2nd communication spot. A bit of unexpected AEG on the way back had me fatiguing some. High of 75. 😊 My 1st peak since February.
 
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First time on this trail for me. Fittingly, an old ham sandwich lay in the dirt at the trailhead. Hiked up Upper Oldham Trail to the Elden lookout road and then followed Sunset Trail and the lookout road to the summit of Mount Elden. Came back down and walked the road to Devils Head summit. Returned the same way and finished by 10am before monsoons rolled in.
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Bruce had an unexpecting opening, so I checked quick feasible options. Temps of northern staple options were not looking great. The base of Elden 90, Weatherford 85, Kendrick & Sitgreaves 87, Wilson 105. The top of Mingus 88, Wilson & Casner 100. In the words of the famous Fraley... yikes. I pitched a nice Humphreys out-n-back via Weatherford with 67 temps in the upper stretch. The_give me heat or give me death_Eagle opted for whatever on Elden. I held back on suggesting Humphreys via Lookout Trail #4 and went with this seemingly sensible loop.

Due to wildfire smoke haze, we couldn't make out the iconic San Francisco Peaks until close to Flagstaff. It looked like the smoke ceiling was about 300 feet above Elden. We got a spot at the full TH as one left as we arrived.

The ascent up Elden is typically one of my favorite stretches of the loop. Not so much this round with temps that resembled Piestewa in May. Bruce requested a few mini-breaks heading up, so we didn't run out of sweat too quick.

Heading down the lookout road on the flipside was lined with incredibly fragrant Cliff Wood's Rose.

Noticed several isolated [ Yellow Columbine ] on Sunset Trail and some smaller species on Oldham. It seemed odd, scattered away from its typical perennial water source habitat.

Saw three [ Mule Deer ] along Oldham Trail #1. Then a large patch of [ Indian Paintbrush ] near Schultz Tank; old man eagle eye said he saw a few patches earlier too.

There is a fair amount of burn areas; most are mixed with healthy pines. The exception is a half-mile annihilated stretch north of Heart Trail #103.

We continued to see scattered Columbine. One species of wildflower seems to thrive each year. Two years ago, owl clover was everywhere. I would never have guessed Columbine to be widespread without a major water source, but it is lightly scattered for several miles.

The other oddity was the lack of hikers anywhere except the initial ascent up Elden, one group on Oldham, a family of three doing a Snowbowl-to-Elden shuttle run, and maybe two isolated hikers. The upper trails were 95+% mtn bike tracks, hiker footprints were rare. Wild savers pretending to be hikers were absent.

The hike eased into afternoon sprinkles and refreshing breezes!
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Headed high to get out of the smokin' hot heat and wandered into just smoke. It had settled around flag from the Backbone and probably the Slate fire. It cleared up quite a bit as the day went on.

We've done numerous versions of this hike in the past. The latest, last year after the Museum Fire.

Elden Lookout Trail climbs a steep 2500' in 3.5 miles. The upper half of this hike is better in the fall with the aspens. After passing the Lookout, we were on our way to the Sunset Trail. Here we passed numerous patches of sweet smelling Wood's Roses, that Joe thought were Cliff roses.

On Upper Oldham, we started getting into the burn area. The upside of the burn, is the views to the peaks. This trail drops down to Oldham #1 and then Brookbank #2

Brookbank Trail starts the climb and got a bit toasty. We got lucky and the clouds started rolling in as we hit Sunset Trail. A bit past the intersection with the Little Bear Trail, you start hitting the burn again. We were lucky enough to get about 45 minutes of light off and on rain.

We had the clouds for the rest of the hike, which made it more pleasanterest.

The hike down the Elden Lookout Trail is not a favorite. As steep as it is going up, it's tiresome with all the loose uneven rocks going down on tired legs.

I'll be back.
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We headed north to escape the heat this weekend...even Sedona had highs in the upper 90s, so we targeted a little higher elevation and planned a loop hike in Flagstaff. We decided to start at Sandy Seep Trailhead to avoid the crowds at Elden Lookout Trailhead, which was packed when we drove by on Highway 89. Sandy Seep was much quieter, with only a few vehicles in the lot when we started.

About a quarter mile into the hike, a very slowly crossed the trail in front of us. The pattern on the scales looked a little like a rattlesnake, but it didn't have a rattle...I'm not sure exactly what kind it was, but hopefully someone can identify it in the pictures :). Sandy Seep was a nice, easy warmup, just a very gradual incline. We went clockwise on the route, following Christmas Tree to a brief section of Farman's Loop, where we connected with Elden Lookout Trail. As expected, that was a very stretch up to the top.

The views kept getting better as we gained elevation, although it was a fairly urban view from that side of Elden, looking down on streets and businesses below. Still, a very pleasant stretch of trail, and a nice workout over the last mile and a half leading up through the aspens and switchbacks to the top. I took the quick detour on the side spur up to the lookout and got the first views of the day of the San Francisco Peaks...Humphreys had a few small patches of snow near the top.

From there, we continued north on Sunset, and the crowds thinned out considerably--we didn't see any other hikers along the rest of the loop, just a couple of mountain bikers before the intersection with Heart. The landscape along Sunset is a mix of charred trees and nice, green aspen/pine forests--it's interesting to see how some areas were spared from the wildfires while others were decimated...but still great views of the San Francisco Peaks and looking south into the valley below.

We connected with Heart Trail and started the slow descent down the mountain. As others have noted in recent triplogs, it seems like part of the trail had been re-routed. I had multiple tracks loaded on the GPS and could see alternate routes down the mountain, and the trails crossed in a few places, but we picked the most obvious one and stuck with that. The section along Heart Trail near Little Eldon Mountain was one of my favorites--we started to get farther away from the burned zone, and there as a lot of nice green color and beautiful rock outcroppings, with afternoon clouds casting shadows over the mountains.

The intersection with Little Elden Trail wasn't marked very well...or really at all. There was no sign, although we did see the broken remnants of a sign post, and it it looked like someone had set branches all over the early part to try to block it off. But we followed it anyway and circled back to Sandy Seep to complete the loop, passing a few final mountain bikers and horseback riders in the last mile. I'd passed by Elden Mountain on Highway 89 many times but had never hiked there, and the loop exceeded my expectations--a nice variety of scenery and level of difficulty on the trails. On the drive out after the hike, we made a quick stop at Elden Pueblo ruins [ triplog ] , which as a nice add at the end of the day...much more fun than the construction slowdowns on I-17 north of Phoenix :).
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Started from the Sandy Seep TH which was a first. Ran into Joe @joebartels and Bruce @The_Eagle on the Heart Trail and chatted for a few minutes, nice to meet both of you :)

Sandy Seep Trail Nice trail from the trail head. Nice warm up.

Christmas Tree Trail I enjoy this trail. As we typically do when hiking this trail in the early morning, we saw a small herd of about 6 deer. Crossed paths with a few hikers that started from the Elden TH and a few dog walkers but not to crowded.

Elden Lookout Trail Always enjoy this climb. It starts off gradually which lulls you into a nice stride then kicks it into high gear when the switchbacks get shorter and the climbs get longer. I actually beat Ryan to the top which is rare so I was all smiles :D when he arrived.

Sunset Trail Great trail. You do run into the edge of the burn area near the Heart Trail junction which was tough to see. Followed a couple mountain bikers who were walking and carrying the bikes more than they were riding but with the steep drop off that was the smart thing to do.

Heart Trail We followed the new trial tread that @Jim_H reported on a couple weeks back. Definitely designed for mountain bikes and trail runners. It was like a slow burn down with long switchbacks. About two thirds of the way down, the new trail tread and the original trail cross/join, this is where we should have jumped on the original trail for the remaining way down. Since we stayed on the new trail we met the Little Elden Trail further north. Combined with the longer Heart Trail, we tacked on an additional 2.75 miles to the hike.
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