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National Trail - Telegraph to Pima - 12 members in 50 triplogs have rated this an average 3.6 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Sep 02 2024
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 Chandler, AZ
Goat Hill from Pima Canyon THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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John10sTriplogs 346
Hiking20.33 Miles 2,863 AEG
Hiking20.33 Miles   5 Hrs   27 Mns   4.05 mph
2,863 ft AEG      26 Mns Break
 
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It didn't look like my schedule for the upcoming week would give me a chance to hike any mornings before work, so I decided to get out on Labor Day and hike to Goat Hill, a new one for me. It's a longer hike and the weather is still hot, but I figured if I started early and kept a decent pace, I'd finish before it got too bad. I started ~5AM, and there was just enough light--and enough hikers/bikers with flashlights--that I never turned mine on, then clear skies and a nice sunrise.

The trails were quiet as I got farther out on National, then traffic picked up again as I approached Telegraph Pass. It had been years since I'd been there, and this was my first time hiking in from Pima Canyon. I'd never hiked the SoMo trails west of there, so I was into new territory beyond Telegraph Pass, and it was nice to get some new scenery.

I reached Goat Hill ~2.5 hours after I started and took a break up there to enjoy the views while I ate second breakfast, then started back ~8AM. The return hike was uneventful, and it was warm by the end but not terribly hot yet when I finished ~10:30AM. I didn't see any interesting wildlife today, but it was a nice longer outing exploring some new areas.
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Oct 21 2023
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54 male
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 Gilbert, AZ
South Mountain Meander, AZ 
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ddgrunningTriplogs 604
Hiking14.16 Miles 3,207 AEG
Hiking14.16 Miles   5 Hrs   43 Mns   2.71 mph
3,207 ft AEG      30 Mns Break
 
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Started from the Telegraph Pass TH and then just made it up as I went along. Hit up some tread I hadn’t hiked before on the Ma Ha Tuak range. Where the Alta trail reaches the ridge line, a trail heads off along the ridge to the east (while Alta continues to the west). It is not listed on the maps, but is signed on the trail itself and eventually joins into the Crosscut trail. I didn’t take a photo of the signage, but it was Hai … something.
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Jan 25 2023
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Notorious Outlaw Search, AZ 
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking25.00 Miles 4,800 AEG
Hiking25.00 Miles   7 Hrs   37 Mns   3.46 mph
4,800 ft AEG      23 Mns Break
 
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We explored three of legendary Mike's main routes to his airy mountaintop, but the hunt was futile. Either he's hanging out with Billy the Kid, perhaps taking a nap in the soft, abundant grass or has been kidnapped by desperados. Maybe next time...
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Jan 14 2023
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 Joined Mar 14 2015
 Phoenix, AZ
Holbert Trail - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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astrobrewerTriplogs 196
Hiking7.36 Miles 1,295 AEG
Hiking7.36 Miles   3 Hrs   8 Mns   2.41 mph
1,295 ft AEG      5 Mns Break
 
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Met up with a couple of friends at mid-day for a hike. It was overcast all morning, but the sun came out a bit when we started. I took the Holbert up to National, down Kiwanis, and back via Las Lomitas. It was pleasantly cool. I was surprised (but not disappointed) that there were few people on the trail. Nice day on the mountain.
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May 02 2022
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National Trail - Telegraph to PimaPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking15.24 Miles 2,338 AEG
Hiking15.24 Miles   4 Hrs   56 Mns   3.48 mph
2,338 ft AEG      33 Mns Break
 
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Mar 03 2022
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National Trail - Telegraph to PimaPhoenix, AZ
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking13.99 Miles 2,731 AEG
Hiking13.99 Miles   4 Hrs   3 Mns   3.50 mph
2,731 ft AEG      3 Mns Break
 
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Nov 10 2020
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Night Hike On South Mountain, AZ 
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AugustWestTriplogs 184
Hiking10.90 Miles 2,045 AEG
Hiking10.90 Miles   4 Hrs   16 Mns   2.57 mph
2,045 ft AEG      2 Mns Break
 
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Fun night hike with @LindaAnn. I spent a lot of time as a teenager and young adult running around in the mountains of Oregon and hills of Connecticut so these walks feel like I am getting something back from my youth that I have missed.

Prior to my most recent hikes on SoMo I had only been up a few times so I am incredibly grateful to have such a knowledgeable and willing guide. Nonetheless, I still have no idea where I am going :)

Good pace, nice temps and great company made for a perfect evening.
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Jul 11 2020
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50 female
 Joined Mar 09 2010
 Chandler, AZ
National Trail - Telegraph to PimaPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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azlaurieTriplogs 259
Hiking8.10 Miles 1,200 AEG
Hiking8.10 Miles   2 Hrs   19 Mns   3.68 mph
1,200 ft AEG      7 Mns Break10 LBS Pack
 
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Dec 31 2019
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Corona LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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WalkingbambamTriplogs 76
Hiking9.80 Miles 1,598 AEG
Hiking9.80 Miles   4 Hrs   35 Mns   2.14 mph
1,598 ft AEG
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Up Telegraph to national, down Corona back on Desert Classic to T/H. First time I’ve done this route. Great hike and good views. The cloud cover made for awesome sights. The snow on Four Peaks was glistening when the sun poked out. Met Mark, a fellow hiker on National and walked most of the loop with him. He gave me good pointers on some good hikes. Ran into @LindaAnn starting down Corona and had a brief chat. Got on the trail to Desert Classic and I said to Mark that it is smooth sailing back, and just when he was about to reply I slipped on a rock and almost fell on my butt. Slipping on the flat trail, after coming down on the rocky trail was embarrassing. 😡OH WELL!! Won’t be the last time. It was a great day for my New Years Day hike since I won’t be able to go on New Years Day. HAPPY NEW YEAR everybody!!
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Apr 16 2019
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Bursera Trail - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
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BoonemanTriplogs 4,634
Run/Jog7.42 Miles 1,561 AEG
Run/Jog7.42 Miles   1 Hour   20 Mns   5.57 mph
1,561 ft AEG
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Afternoon trail run from the Bursera trailhead. I ran a clockwise loop of Bursera and Gila with a small segment on National.

I saw two snakes today, a dark reddish colored coachwhip in a ravine behind Bursera Peak and a speckled rattlesnake near the trailhead.
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Mar 15 2019
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 Joined Jul 28 2004
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Telegraph / Kiwanis Flipper Doodle, AZ 
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mazatzalTriplogs 1,347
 Hiking4.00 Miles 536 AEG
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A friend and I hiked Telegraph plus part of National and part of Kiwanis.
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Dec 29 2018
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57 male
 Joined Apr 25 2011
 Goodyear, AZ
Lost Ranch Ruins TrailPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking avatar Dec 29 2018
NightstalkerTriplogs 1,740
Hiking8.70 Miles 2,060 AEG
Hiking8.70 Miles   4 Hrs   58 Mns   2.29 mph
2,060 ft AEG   1 Hour   10 Mns Break13 LBS Pack
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Did Pyramid, National, and Lost Ranch loop this morning. Trailhead temp was 37 at 7:15 and WINDY! Lots of construction going on with the 202 extension. Great loop. Excellent way to end 2018.
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Nov 03 2018
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 Gilbert, AZ
Holbert-Kiwanis-Loop with Towers Traverse, AZ 
Holbert-Kiwanis-Loop with Towers Traverse, AZ
 
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ddgrunningTriplogs 604
Hiking7.62 Miles 1,768 AEG
Hiking7.62 Miles   3 Hrs   35 Mns   2.33 mph
1,768 ft AEG      19 Mns Break
 
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Debated between Shaw Butte-North Mountain and this loop. Never done the SB-NM loop, but I was having a hard time convincing myself that it would be a better use of my hiking time, so opted to hit up this SoMo hike instead. Any SB-NM loop cheerleaders who want to convince me I made the wrong choice?

I hadn't done the southern (upper) portion of Holbert before. After traversing along the National, we decided to off-trail it up to the towers. Nice views. Then traversed west along the fenceline to where we could turn the corner and look down on Ahwatukee and Telegraph Pass. Stopped for a snack and to enjoy the views for a bit, including a hawk of some sort, taking in the updrafts and circling below and then above us.

Took a nice ridgeline down towards TG Pass, eventually connecting with the National Trail before making the final swing around to TG Pass.

The descent on Kiwanis was nice, and then the ho-hum finish on Los Lomitas and the Box Canyon Loop trails.

A great morning to be out, though we ended up with some stop-and-go traffic on Baseline due to a very poorly managed hole-digging exercise at the 32nd street intersection. :x I deal with my fill of rush hour traffic on the weekdays, so having to battle it on a Saturday morning was no bueno. ](*,)
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 Mesa, AZ
Telegraph Pass Trail - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
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DarthStillerTriplogs 856
 Hiking9.80 Miles 1,575 AEG
 Hiking9.80 Miles   4 Hrs   20 Mns   2.26 mph
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The first hike I ever did in AZ was the Telegraph Pass Trail on Memorial Day weekend in 1999. I was visiting a friend who lived there at the time, but I was also scoping out Phoenix and how to move here from PA. that day I hiked up to the National Trail and then headed east until I was under the towers, then headed back. I always remember that weekend it was 115, crazy hot even by our standards. This time it was much cooler, and I did things much wiser than I did 19 years ago. I also did the loop taking the National Trail to Corona de Loma and returned on the Desert Classic. I have hiked this particular loop twice before, the first time was not too long after I moved here. I think that was the first time I realized I could plan out different hikes in the park making these kind of loops. That was also I believe the longest hike I had ever done, which also broadened my horizons.

About a quarter mile after the Telegraph Pass Trail heads north from the junction with the Desert Classic Trail, there is a very well marked spur that takes you to a very prominent petroglyph site. Before this day, I have never noticed this. Funny to think that I've hiked right passed this area several times in the past having no clue it was there.

The views up along the National Trail were the best, although the weather was a bit hazy. There is a sign in register along the National Trail just under the radio towers. Not sure why, but I signed in anyway.

the Corona de Loma Trail seemed much easier to walk from the very first time I remember hiking it, about 17 years ago. But much has changed since then in terms of how and when I hike, and footwear.

The hike back on the Desert Classic always seems to be a bit of a slog. As you near the Telegraph Pass TH, there is very prominent trail to the south that heads up along the top of a ridge and then loops back to the Desert Classic. Looks like that's another hike plan for another cooler weather weekend.

After this spent the afternoon with friends in downtown Phx watching the Rattlers game, and then at their house. did some extra walking downtown from our parking garage to lunch, then to the arena, then back to the car. Probably at least an additional 2 miles of walking for the day. Very fun day, very little of which was spent at home.

My knee seems to be holding up very well recently. No pain at all the next day, and the "looseness" in it also seems to be subsiding. the brace seems to be helping with that alot, but it also tend to exacerbate my usual case of heat rash on my calves. Seems like new problems every week, but the priority level goes down each time at least.
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National Trail - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
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knmurphyTriplogs 222
Hiking30.60 Miles 3,833 AEG
Hiking30.60 Miles   11 Hrs   52 Mns   3.13 mph
3,833 ft AEG   2 Hrs   6 Mns Break
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My buddy's idea of a bachelor party was to hike the National trail to its end and back. Long fun hike, and the weather was perfect.
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 Phoenix, AZ
Telegraph Pass Trail - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
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The_DudeTriplogs 364
Hiking8.52 Miles 1,881 AEG
Hiking8.52 Miles   2 Hrs   29 Mns   3.57 mph
1,881 ft AEG      6 Mns Break
 
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I saw Lindaagm's track for Telegraph to the Dobbins Lookout, and it sounded good so I thought I would give it a go. I have been on all these trails before, just not in this combination, fun trip! I pulled into the Telegraph TH about 4:15 to get started. I tried to keep a really fast pace since I knew I was limited on daylight. I knocked out the 1.2 miles to the pass in 20 minutes even, pretty happy about that. I saw about 20-25 hikers to this point, then I only saw one lone biker on the trail until I reached the Dobbins lookout. Took a short break here to scarf down a Nature Valley granola bar while watching a gaggle of folks who mostly drove up to the top, how lame. Started back and I did not see anyone else until the pass, and then only a handful of people in the dark. Never needed my headlamp, enough city glow to light my way. Well worth doing this one again!
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Telegraph Pass-National-Hidden Vly-Mormon Loop, AZ 
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,600
Hiking9.23 Miles 1,304 AEG
Hiking9.23 Miles   3 Hrs   48 Mns   2.54 mph
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We needed a quick, easy hike this morning, and this was perfect. We started at Telegraph Pass, then headed east on National, through Hidden Valley, then over to Mormon Loop, and on out to the Pima Canyon trailhead. Nice morning, but I thought it was a little warm the last hour or so.
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Oct 11 2015
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Telegraph Pass-National-Hidden Vly-Pima Cyn, AZ 
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,600
Hiking8.83 Miles 1,176 AEG
Hiking8.83 Miles   3 Hrs   36 Mns   2.52 mph
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The usual Sunday night hike with a girlfriend. We left one car at Pima Canyon trailhead, then took the other car over to Telegraph Pass trailhead. Up Telegraph Pass, east on National, through Hidden Valley, and back to Pima Canyon. Saw one rattler, which we pretty much expect at this point.
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Sep 20 2015
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Telegraph Pass-National-Hidden Vly-Pima Cyn, AZ 
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,600
Hiking8.79 Miles 1,250 AEG
Hiking8.79 Miles   3 Hrs   31 Mns   2.56 mph
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Finally--managed to get a night hike in. It had been a couple of weeks, since the work schedule of "He Who Earns the Money" takes precedence over the hiking schedule of "She Who Spends the Money". My friend and I started at the Telegraph Pass trailhead a little before 5:30pm. We headed up Telegraph, then east on National, through Hidden Valley, and down to the Pima Canyon trailhead. She had never been on National between Telegraph Pass and the Buena Vista lookout, and luckily it was still light enough for her to see most of it. Saw one rattler, a coyote, and plenty of rabbits along the trail.
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Feb 07 2015
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Goat Hill via Ranger TrailPhoenix, AZ
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ddgrunningTriplogs 604
Hiking6.01 Miles 1,391 AEG
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Looking for a hike nearby that we could complete before lunch. Goat Hill via Ranger has been on my "wish list" for awhile, so we hit it up. This was my first time hiking SM, west of Telegraph Pass. Decided to make it a loop, via National, Kiwanis, and Los Lomitas. Beautiful weather today, though the air was a bit hazy. I really enjoyed the views along the trail of the Estrellas and SW valley, from the Ranger/Nat'l junction to Goat Hill. Made me even more excited for a full ridgeline hike (...another one that's been sitting on my to-do list for far too long).

There were about 5 cars in the Ranger TH parking lot when we arrived (around 7 am-ish). Saw 7-10 hikers/trail runners on the way up. Had the Goat to ourselves for awhile, and then were joined by a couple of guys we passed on the way up, who were starting to train for their first GC trip in May. We descended the Goat and then took National East. Started to run into the masses as we approached Telegraph Pass, and continued down Kiwanis. Nobody on Los Lomitas, which was the most drab part of the hike. Ranger TH parking lot was filled to capacity when we got back.

Made pit stop at REI on the way home and picked up some new hiking shoes. :y:

All in all, a great morning!
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