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May 17 2025
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Marsh Valley LoopPhoenix, AZ
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The real heat hasn't started just yet but when Chris mentioned Marsh Valley Loop I was thinking of a plan B if it got too hot. We started early and is was still nice and cool. There was even shade in Boulder Canyon for much of the way so I knew it would be good to finish the entire hike.

There was one hiker that hiked Battleship. Het passed us on the way in but I got back to the trailhead about 6 minutes before him. He said he spent a lot of time trail finding.

The trails were easy to follow. The burned out sections of Cavalry trail were open for the most part but there was some downed brush to hike around. It didn't really warm up until we hit Dutchman trail.

We saw fuana on this trip. A javelina, two deer, a rat, squirrels, a hawk and the circling vultures.
I rested a few times in the shade but once the shade disappeared I kept moving. Not a lot of hikers out but it was a nice day. I still had water left at the end. It was still frozen or I would have drank it.
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Superstition jaunt, AZ 
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I haven't been able to really get in more than an overnight backpacking trip so far this season but finally had the chance last week, from Wednesday to Saturday. Since it was the first (and perhaps only) longer trip of the season, I figured I'd just do a nice little tour de western supes to enjoy all the running water, 3 nights/4 days. I started at Peralta and went clockwise, Dutchman -> Coffee Flat -> Side Trip down Randolph Canyon -> Red Tanks -> Dutchman -> Cavalry -> Boulder -> Terrapin -> Bluff, roughly 33 miles, with the plan to do 6 or 7 the first day and 12 or so on days 2 and 3 leaving a short hike out on day 4.

The road in was fine but I did notice way more campers/RVs/etc than previous years. Like, massive amounts more and there are a couple areas where forest service/county/someone has dropped some porta potties. I know there was a race this past weekend so maybe some of it was related to that but looks more like a lot of long termers. Was generally just surprised by the difference in numbers this year compared to previous.

As expected, all the creeks were running great, meaning I never carried more than my 700ml water bottle. I was able to rock hop and keep my feet dry at most crossings but this is basically impossible on some of the crossings of La Barge on the red tanks section and definitely impossible on the section of trail between reeds water and dripping spring but I had brought an extra pair of socks and sandals to wear at camp so no problem there. The days were in the high 60s/low 70s which was a bit warmer than I would've liked due to the lack of shade, but nothing bad. Nights were low/mid-30s which was fantastic.

Most of these trails are well used so the conditions are just fine and able to make great time on without any fuss. The only exception is the stretch of Red Tanks from the Randoph canyon junction to whiskey spring. There were several spots where I ended up off trail and had a very tough time filled with many bloody cuts finding it again. Also very overgrown in many places; in this section, I think I barely averaged 1 mph. I was on this trail 14-18 months ago and don't remember it being near this bad but now I need a new shirt and shorts.

The drive out was uneventful except for one lady on a bike raising her fists and screaming at me on Peralta. It seems obvious to me that if you're slowly riding a bike on the wrong side of a dirt road, a car will pass you at some point, so not entirely sure what she was angry about but that's people for ya.
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Jan 25 2024
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My intention on this hike was to hike to Peak 2900, which is a bit northwest of Marsh Valley. From the First Water TH, my plan was to take the Dutchman Trail to the Bull Pass Trail to the Dutchman Trail (again) to the Cavalry Trail. After hiking north on the Cavalry Trail for a bit I would then go off-trail to the west to the peak.
However, I got a late start and several sections of the Dutchman Trail and Bull Pass Trail were in terrible shape, which slowed me down. By the time I was ready to start going off-trail up to the peak, it was later than i wanted so I decided to cut my losses and head back.

So this wound up being an out-and-back hike on some heavily eroded sections of trail. At times it was more like hiking in a ditch instead of a trail, and there were sections with lots of loose, rubbly rock.

The trails were in such poor shape that I didn't care for this hike very much. I think that I will use my time and energy for something other than hiking up to Peak 2900.
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Supes Walkabout, AZ 
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Nov 25 2023
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Squaw Canyon and Black Mtn (3707)Phoenix, AZ
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Black Mountain 3707 summit lollipop with Shelly. The days are short so planned darkness to darkness and it was. I really enjoyed this 22+ mile trip, but clowned around too much to make decent time. Our route was to be counter clockwise Bluff Spring 235, Dutchman 104, Peters 105, Summit, Squaw Canyon, Cavalry 239, Terrapin 234, and Bluff Spring back.

The temps were forecasted in the 50s to 70s, which they were. From Peralta we began to a half full lot before dawn. There were nice clouds in the am that burned off by the pm. We were passing through Barks and sunrise and continued with a few side trips. My err in judgement was to take the sides forgetting we’d be pressed for time. I got lost in the moment and didn’t get my partner back on time.

There were still a few isolated pools from rain 2 weeks ago. There were four backpacking/camping groups in Bluff Spring area including a family of over a dozen. Side one was up to Bluff Spring. It was odd to me that some of the backpackers were unaware that there was even a spring there. Bluff is returning to nature, more overgrown than before but still trickles a quart a minute.

Side two La Barge is near fall colors with some change but about a month away from prime. The spring itself is vastly overgrown with rubus. Not sure which variety blackberry, raspberry, or? but no telling where it will stop. I remember standing on the box not that long ago, now completely buried. It is flowing strong at a gallon+ a minute. There were multiple campers there as well.

Side three to Charlebois. We saw the first hiker of the day on Peters 105 heading up to the summit. I scored a small personal victory by finding and removing I believe the last red spray painted cairn on the long trail. Up top the upper plateau is timeless and familiar. We crossed it and made way up to the Summit. Black Mountain 3707 register was still there in small jar but Shelly brought a nice glow in the dark waterproof box just in case. We had a snack and off before we knew it. We were behind schedule as we crossed for Squaw Canyon. I’ve never liked going up that canyon so chose the route down specifically. One more side trip and then the tortuous drop down to the Cavalry Trail. I’m not sure that I’ll ever take that route again. I’m fairly certain that fire, scree and rockfall have removed anything that would be considered a trail. The loose slope meant I spent more time falling on my backside than anything else I can remember. We connected to an old horse trail as we got lower in the canyon.

The trail route back was uneventful with several small stops to reenergize before reaching a dark Peralta. I love this time of year and any chance to hike the Superstition Mountains. It's so much prettier with water but we have not been blessed this season. My companion was a rock star. The shorter days make long day hikes like this problematic but worth it.
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Mar 11 2023
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Cavalry - Boulder lollipop, AZ 
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Decided to head back out into the Supes to take advantage of decent weather and lots of water. Started out on Dutchman. All the creeks are flowing. Headed up and over Bull Pass, which I've only been over once; had to get the feet wet at the Needle Canyon crossing. Would like to take Needle down to Boulder sometime...

North on Cavalry through Marsh Valley; saw some horse campers and lots of backpackers heading in. Took a break at Boulder; saw a couple of runners which provided some motivation to pick up the pace a little.

Rest of the way was a little uneventful, although we did see a gila monster on Dutchman.
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Peralta/Dutchman/Whiskey loop, AZ 
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I went out for a casual 3 night backpack out in the Supes this past weekend hoping to see some snow, and boy did I. Started at Peralta late on Friday and headed to Whiskey Spring for the night. As expected, there was water flowing absolutely everywhere. What surprised me, though, is how much water was draining from up on Miner's needle. That's such a high point, without a recent rain I didn't expect it but I guess that's just how saturated everything is right now.
The next day, I headed north on Whiskey and over on Red Tank. I had read that there had been recent maintenance on these and I was hoping that wasn't a lie. Sure enough, I don't think I got a single scratch; both are in solid condition right now. There are a couple spots on Red Tank when you cross the drainage/creek (running the whole way and quite wide in some spots) where it can be tricky to find the other side, but nothing crazy. Very happy to see the trail in this condition, though, after the last couple years! I took a short jaunt up Trap canyon as I haven't been there before, before continuing on to my final destination on Cavalry. The weather there was bright and sunny at 72 degrees and I had a nice sandy beach to soak my feet in and enjoy the wide views.
The next morning around 4 or so, the rain started and the temperature had dropped down to 34 according to my thermodrop. As the sun came out, I could see ice forming on my tent walls and below the vestibules, some slight snow. Opening the tent door and I was greeted by snow on Malapais and and Black Mountains, along with Weavers. What a site! The rain mostly stopped around 10 or so but I goofed off in my tent a bit longer. I was going to meet up with a buddy doing a quick overnight at Pinon camp on Peralta which was only 6.5 miles or so away, so there was no rush. Once I left, I went back up to Dutchman to head over to Peralta. I've normally just thought this stretch was "okay" but man oh man, with all this water and snow run off (it melted pretty quick), it was amazing with waterfalls and, in one section, a bit of a water fountain almost where the water is forced through a small opening. Very nice. The climb up Peralta in the back side is nice and gentle and, again, streams every 10 feet. Often right on the trail but easy enough to keep your feet dry.
Buddy had brought out a couple adult beverages and brats, so that was quite the nice treat for the night by the campfire, which also helped with the cold as it was just above freezing when I called it a night (overnight got to 26 apparently). We packed up early the next morning for a quick exit. It was a little slower going as there was still Ice in some places, particularly on the backend where we were, but also on the South side in some areas as well, but was a pleasant descent nonetheless.

Great to get out to the Supes with this much water and camping in a couple of new places for me. The snow was just the icing on the cake.
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Feb 15 2023
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Marsh Valley LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Got started a little later than planned, around 0900. Muddy, with lots of water flowing, and snow just above. Headed east on Second Water Trail, and by the time I turned onto Black Mesa Trail, I was in the snow. Lots of fresh animal tracks. Made my way over to Bull Pass trail then up to Black Top Mesa. Lots of snow up there, making for slower travel on the trail. Great views from the top. Slippery descent, then continued east. Cavalry trail had lots of mud in places. Tons of water crossings on Cavalry and Boulder Canyon. Second Water was muddy. Saw my first hikers of the day near Garden Valley. Temps stayed in the upper 30s—mid 40s all day.
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La Barcaza, AZ 
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This one was John's plan but I was at least reasonably intrigued as the last time I tried to do the upper loop I got flashed out by post-fire mud flow. Having never hiked out via the lower creek, I penciled that in for the day as well.

It was insanely cold and windy to start as we took 103 up the hill. Dropping down to the creek we dodged water all the way upstream to Cavalry -- save for one poor choice -- before cutting across to Boulder Canyon. Here we saw our only people on the day, a group of likely human traffickers in town for the game, though the girls did not blink twice when we prompted them to, so on we went.

We cut the corner taking the short stretch along Boulder before meeting up with La Barge again. Any attempts to stay dry ended here, but it was an absolutely great stretch of canyon, and one I'm sorry its taken so long for me to explore. I'll be back!

After a short break at the lake, we pieced together some use trails up to 103 and back to the car for the typically annoying 88 drive back to AJ. Great day!
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Marsh Valley LoopPhoenix, AZ
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haven't been out in the supes in a long time
this hike was on our list of possibilities
after negotiating a detour on lost dutchman road, we got going around 0715
temps right around 40 to start
did the loop clockwise
second water, boulder canyon, cavalry
instead of circling black top mesa on dutchman trail, we took bull pass to the saddle and then to the summit
one of my favorite spots in the superstitions for great views, especially of weaver's needle
we took a snack break and then john persevered in finding the sun petroglyph on the east side
finished the loop on dutchman trail
temps in upper 60s as we finished
not many people on the trails at all
water in boulder canyon and from recent rains in several other places
nice to be back in the supes with good company
thanks, john - good times
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Neither one of us has hiked in the Supes recently, so it was time. We did a clockwise variation of the Marsh Valley loop ascending Black Top Mesa for extra credit.
A bit chilly at the start. Some frost here and there. Things warmed up after an hour or so resulting in excellent conditions for hiking.
Trails are in pretty good shape. Less vegetation than expected. Still damp from the rain last week.
The scenery is always good here, Black Top Mesa topping things off with great views all around.
We didn't see many people and no horses, just lots of reminders they frequent the trails.
Fun hike. Thanks gecko! :)
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Just another one of those trips where stuff gets added along the way. The original plan was to hike out and back from the Boulder Canyon TH to Charlebois Spring via the Cavalry Trail. The three summits in a day idea materialized once I reached Second Water and thus my route changed some. Hiked sunrise to sunset with my total moving time at just under twelve hours. Most definitely hands on hips and some stumbling in the dark at the end.
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Left First Water Trailhead on Wed at 11 AM & walked the length of Second Water Trail to Boulder Canyon Trail. Had some "fun" criss crossing the boulders in Boulder Creek. The trail is a little tricky to follow here but there are cairns on either side of the dry creek that were helpful. Hit Calvary Trail which starts with a climb. Camped at a great spot close to the intersection of Calvary and Dutchman's. Water was available nearby coming from White Rock Spring.

Day 2: started on a short stretch of Dutchman's to Bull Pass. Coming down off the Pass there are amazing views of Weaver's Needle. Took Black Mesa Trail to Second Water back to our car.
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Squaw Canyon and Triangle Cave, AZ 
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On a hike to Charlebois Spring three weeks ago, we noticed an intriguing cave high up on the canyon wall in Squaw Canyon/Marsh Valley. I took some zoomed-in shots that looked promising [ photo ] , but we didn't have time to explore it that day. So, today we returned to do some off-trail exploring in Squaw Canyon, with "Triangle Cave" the main destination.

We started from First Water Trailhead, and the parking lot was almost full when we pulled in around 7AM...full of vehicles and campers. Someone had set up a tent in one parking spot, and another person was sleeping outside in a sleeping bag in the spot next to it. A bold move, and also a fairly selfish move with a nearly-full lot when there are plenty of places to camp that aren't in numbered parking spaces :).

The creek beds and washes still had some water, but not nearly as much as we saw three weeks ago. It was still trickling and flowing in most spots, but there were also a lot more stagnant pools and algae this time. I was pleasantly surprised by how few people we saw on the trails after seeing the crowded parking lot. We took Dutchman Trail to Bull Pass and got our first views of Triangle Cave off in the distance, then diverged from our pervious Charlebois route and turned onto Cavalry Trail. The water was especially deep and clear near Squaw Canyon, and that was where we headed off-trail toward the cave. It looked like we had a long, slow bushwhack up the side of the mountain. @TboneKathy opted to stay down below, and I left some stuff with her to lighten my pack and took off.

I stayed in the drainage, where the brush wasn't as bad, as long as I could and then headed up the slope. It was exactly as described in the guide:
Loose scree, cacti, and all sorts of evil vegetation awaiting you. Due to the ruggedness of terrain, 1 mile/hr is about as good as you can expect unless you are super-Wally.
I channeled my inner Super-Wally and tried to keep a decent pace as I made my way around the vertical rock outcroppings and the thicker stands of catclaw, and I made it up in ~40-45 minutes. The cave entrance is located on a ledge ~10 feet high, and I started to climb up the right side, but it looked a lot easier to go around to the left, so I did that instead. At the base of the ledge directly below the cave, I came across an old, rusty shovel head and a piece of red pottery--the first sign of habitation.

As I approached on the ledge, I heard a lot of buzzing, and I hoped it wasn't one of those caves swarming with territorial bees. Luckily, they seemed to hang out just on that one side and weren't an issue inside the cave. It was shallower than I'd expected--I guess the guide does refer to it as an alcove--but the views looking out toward Weaver's Needle and the creek below were fantastic.

Unfortunately, the comment about the site being destroyed by pot hunters/vandals is certainly true--whatever dwellings may have existed inside are virtually unrecognizable as anything more than random piles of rock. The middle of the cave's opening has a pile of rubble and boulders that creates a separate opening--it looked like a big chunk of overhanging rock may have crumbled off from above at some point. I came across some bones and a few more pottery sherds, though it appears just about everything has been removed. The most interesting artifacts inside were a grinding hole/grinding stone and another rock nearby with a recession that appeared to be used for grinding as well. I didn't see the vandals' sledgehammer mentioned in the guide, nor did I see a second metate that @nonot mentioned in his 2010 triplog...maybe that's also been removed, or I didn't look closely enough.

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Even though there's not much left of the site, it was a lot of fun exploring and worth the climb. I took some pictures and videos, enjoyed the views, and then started the dreaded descent back down the scree slope. It was slower than the climb up, but on the way down, I noticed a rock bridge tucked back in a corner in the east canyon wall that I recognized from some of Super-Wally's old photosets :). Once I was back on flatter ground, I came across an old, squared-off shovel head in the drainage.

On our hike out, we took Dutchman around the south side of Black Top Mesa, and I went off-trail to check out an alcove I noticed last time that looked like it had some walls at the bottom, though I suspected they were modern. I was right on both counts--there were walls, and they were modern, with a campfire ring inside.

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Someone went to a lot of work to set up a campsite in a very inconvenient location, but the views of Aylor's Arch and Weaver's Needle were great. It was another good day in the Superstitions--perfect weather, great scenery, and some fun off-trail. It would be interesting to know what that site looked like before it was destroyed...
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Jan 28 2022
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Peralta to First Water, AZ 
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I was planning a 2 night backpacking trip with a buddy and it turns out he hadn't really done much more than a day hike or two into the Supes, so that was the natural target. I'm used to backpacking alone so going with someone else opened up an interesting option to stage a shuttle; if you only have two nights in the supes there are several loops but pretty much all the ones in that time frame involve some meh trail that you have to do just to make the loop. With a shuttle option, though... This was a Friday - Sunday trip.

We decided to start at Peralta, heading up Bluff Spring trail to Charleboi, to Calvary, to Second Water, and then to Hackberry before heading out. This was pretty great because you do your main big climb in the first couple miles of the trip and then basically only have one other bigger climb (Second Water) and two steeper decents (down Calvary, down Hackberry). This makes for a pretty chill trip considering the mileage. Due to that, my friend packed out 4 beers in a wet bag with ice for the first night and I brought whiskey... I definitely had the better end of that deal.

The first day on our way to Charlebois was pleasant as it could be. Obviously my friend carrying a billion pounds up Bluff Spring wasn't exactly pleasant for him but the weather was great, water was still flowing in washes, and we encountered few people. Near bluff Spring, we ran across a group of 10-15 people that looked to have backpacking gear and were taking a break; was a curious looking group, and large, so notable but we just hiked on by. From there, we only encountered one guy (twice) on the way to Charleboi. He was either a forest service employee or volunteer, don't quite remember which. Either way, both times we encountered him were when we were taking a break and chatting and then BAM, he just popped up 5 feet away giving us a bit of a jump as we didn't notice him before he made himself known. I designated him ninja forest warrior. Talking to him, he was scouting out and taking pictures of Red Tanks for a crew to go out and do maintenance on it this month which is much needed. Hoping he's a member here and we can get an update because that trail needs it.

Otherwise, the trail to Charleboi was mostly uneventful. The trail has recently been groomed and is mostly free of prickly things and was quite pleasant with a couple of water crossings (no need to get your feet wet though). We made it to the camp area by the spring decently early, I set up my hammock, he set up his tent, we got a fire going, and everything was good.

The next day, our plan was to head to Hackberry Spring. Unexpectedly, the day before we set off on this trip, I had an out of state friend call me to say he'd be in town for a funeral and ask me if there was a spot that'd be just a few miles in close to town he could backpack into after the funeral for a day or two to just relax. Since I already had plans to be at hackberry that day and knew that it'd probably be busy on the weekend, I gave him some GPS coordinates and said to head there and we'd meet him at the end of the day. This worked out great because he got his day of zen while basically holding a spot for us :D

While he was doing that, my buddy and I started our journey from Charleboi to Hackberry. Overall, an easy an pleasant hike. Water was running along the whole way across Dutchman to White Spring and along Calvary trail to Boulder. It makes for a much more tranquil experience. We got to the intersection of Second Water and Boulder and took a break for snack and water and took notice of a lot more traffick. I particularly took note of people who had already made camp at that point, around noonish. I guess I'm just more "hike all day then camp" so that seemed weird to me but screw it, we all enjoy nature differently and in our own way. You do you.

Afterwards, it was a pretty easy, if a bit a of slog, from there to Hackberry. On the way in fron the north, we encountered a laaaaarge scout group that had to have had at least 100 kids (okay, maybe not that many, but a lot.) My out of town buddy had spent a portion of the day gathering entirely too much firewood but I wasn't going to complain: it just meant I got to set up my hammock in a prime location and then have a nice fire with no work at all. We settled in for the night and between my newer friend and my old one, many laughs were had had before going to bed and it was one of the more pleasant nights that I've had in quite a bit.

Once in bed I had a bit of worry a couple times. I was in my hammock but I hadn't brought my tarp as there was zero indication of rain and that's usually pretty reliable here. However, I was woken twice at night by rain drops hitting my face. Definitely had a momemnt of "oh feces" both times but it was just very slight and short lived drizzle that didn't even make my quilt wet. Both my friends had two person tents so, worst case scenario, I could've just popped into one of those but it did make me decide that I'd bring my tarp in the future no matter what. It's a small DCF tarp and only weighs 4-5oz, so isn't the biggest deal but I always try to save weight.

The next day was an easy <2 miles out to the First Water trailhead and pretty uneventful.

Overall, this is a fantastic route to take if you can arrange a shuttle. You get a taste of some of the best parts of the Supes, especially right now when there is water running in the various washes and steams, and you get most of your elevation out of the way right away when your legs are fresh. It really changes it up and changes the vibe.
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Apr 27 2021
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Fun and beautiful trip. Lots of water and road was easy to access
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Cavalry Trail #239Phoenix, AZ
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This was a trip to revisit my favorite wilderness, to complete a journey through one of the few un-burned areas, keeping my spirits high. And during one of the heaviest storms of the winter to date. It did not disappoint. I remembered Cavalry being a really impressive area and wanted to camp there, but the rain held off long enough there were no opportunities to collect nearby, so Charlebois it was, which made for a long day.

I thankfully stayed dry through the consistent downpour overnight but woke up to a lot of tent condensation. A dry spell tempted unprepared hikers that I ran into on the way out- hopefully they managed the wicked forthcoming hail storm unscathed.


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La Barge Lower - Box LoopPhoenix, AZ
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I wanted to test rain gear for a forthcoming two week long hike I'm doing back east this Spring. It's hard to do that here in AZ, so when the forecast came in I made plans for a weekend in the Supes. Started at Canyon Lake on Saturday. I really enjoy the Boulder Canyon hike to La Barge. It's steep, but the trail conditions are great and I encountered a lot of enthusiastic day-hikers along the way. I had not been intending to do the La Barge Box, but I've been dealing with a repetitive use injury lately and decided to go lighter on the miles.

It's been maybe 12 years since I last hiked the La Barge Box, and I regret it immensely. It's so pretty back there. While the area approaching the Cavalry trail connection is a bit overgrown, enough folks do the hike and have cut back the growth that it's manageable without too much hassle. I took Cavalry to Dutchman and then cameled up at Charlebois Spring, which is looking magnificent. Ended up camping a bit back on Dutchman in a nice flat site. I turned in early to await the rain, which started at 9:00 p.m. and continued intermittently all night. Finally!

The next morning I took Bull Pass to Boulder and then went up Battleship, which was a treat. Someone had camped in the saddle between La Barge and Cavalry and looked quite content. Unfortunately, lighting came in (and too close!) before I completed the ascent, so I beat a fast retreat off the ridge. Better luck next time. It rained on and off for the rest of my time on Boulder, though I got to the car in partial sun.

The upshot was that the rain gear did well, though I didn't do a great job of securing my pack liner. Lessons learned. A wonderful short trip and a much needed rain. Thank you, Weather Gods!

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This mega loop took all day. From 1st water-2nd water-boulder canyon-cavalry trail-dutchman. Finally turn left and wind around back to the TH. Was dark by that point.

Amazing part was a few other hikers were finishing at this time also. This after seeing just 2 runners and 1 group of 4 hikers through all those miles.

There are some rocky sections plus some route finding involved during this 1. Hike itself is of moderate difficulty but the length will wear many peeps down. Much amazing scenery along the way.
 
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Nice weekend in the Supes. 2-nights, 3-days. Some off-trail stuff. A Battleship summit. Avoided burned areas and camped near known water sources. As you might expect it's generally very dry out there right now.

Friday: Started from Canyon Lake on Boulder Canyon Trail, up to La Barge Box. Happy to find water in the pools. Camped for the night. Visited by a skunk at one point without incident.

Saturday: Woke up and summited Battleship Mountain. Very windy day and lots of dust blowing around all of the burned areas. After returning to camp we headed to Charlebois by taking La Barge Canyon off-trail from the box to Cavalry Trail. A route through La Barge Canyon is possible right now with a lot of bouldering. In a wetter time there may be some tricky spots. Made it to Charlebois and the spring is full and clean. My buddy saw a coatimundi near the spring the next morning.

Sunday: Back to Canyon Lake via Dutchman, Cavalry and Boulder Canyon trails (~10 miles). Saw a lot more people out with the nice weather, including a notable amount of folks trying to find the turnoff for Battleship.
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