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Jul 05 2025
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51 male
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 Tucson, AZ
Abineau - Bear Jaw LoopFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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azdesertfatherTriplogs 1,144
Hiking8.11 Miles 1,926 AEG
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One more of the 100 Hikes down, with the wife! We decided to go counter clockwise and get the elevation over with quickly. It was steep enough to definitely slow us down. On the Waterline we were basically hiking a dirt road, then back on trail when we got on the Bear Jaw.
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Jun 17 2025
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Waterline Trail #146Flagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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4x4 Trip14.00 Miles 2,600 AEG
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I was out here for work and drove the waterline trail over two days. The first section being driven on the 17th and the second half from inner basin to the wilderness boundary on the 18th. I should note that you are not supposed to drive along this road, I had explicit permission along with the gate codes to access it. The first section is under construction with rock walls and overflow areas being constructed so the road doesn't get washed out during the next big rain storm. The road is just big enough for one vehicle to pass, so when we saw dump trucks heading in the other way, we had to wait near a pull out and let them pass, or if we didn't see a pullout, we would carefully backup till we reached one. Also those dump truck drivers seem to drive way to fast, we nearly crashed into one going the opposite direction around a blind corner.

The next day involved driving the section from Lockett Meadow to the Aubineau trail junction. You still can't drive to the Lockett Meadow campsite, as the access gate to the road around Sugarloaf Peak is still locked. The road is narrow, with no places to turn around until you reach the end. The trip was mostly spent moving rocks off the road and chopping down a tree in the road with hand tools. Compared to the first section, this section is densely vegetated and shaded. Plenty of deer were seen while driving this section. At the end of the road, it hooks up with the Aubineau trail. There's also an old road that goes further up, but the forest service is working on making it disappear and become forest again. Also according to ONX Backcountry, there's a trail that goes to the top of Humphrey's
Peak from here, though it is also closed and should not be hiked.
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Jun 13 2025
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 Chandler, AZ
Rees - Abineau - Inner Basin Loop, AZ 
Rees - Abineau - Inner Basin Loop, AZ
 
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John10sTriplogs 346
Hiking17.37 Miles 5,627 AEG
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I started from the Abineau-Bear Jaw TH around 6AM with the goal of hitting Rees and Abineau Peaks. I'd checked out a @ddgrunning route from July'21 [ photoset ] that was ~10.5 miles and hit both peaks, along with a longer @LJW figure-eight from Oct'22 [ photoset ] that included both peaks and dropped down to the Inner Basin. Depending on time and how I was feeling, I figured I'd decide on the final route once I was on Abineau.

The forest was almost eerily quiet as I started up Abineau, and a few elk scattered early on. The trail gains ~1,800' over the first two and a half miles to Waterline, then it was easy hiking on the highway over to the Bear Jaw intersection, where I left the trail to head up to Rees. There was quite a bit of deadfall to navigate early on, followed by a long scree slope before I reentered the forest and passed a few patches of snow on the way up to Rees. The views from the summit were impressive but partially obstructed by trees.

Next up was Abineau, roughly a half mile away with some steep and rocky sections. The 360° views were fantastic, and I took a snack break at the summit and signed the register. I dropped down the ridge on the NW side of the summit to check out the B-17 wreckage about a third of a mile down. I found quite a few metal scraps, but mostly small pieces and none of it recognizable as specific plane parts to a non-expert like me...I'm sure I only saw a fraction of what was out there if I'd spent more time exploring.

It wasn't 10AM yet, so with plenty of time remaining, I decided on the longer route and hiked back up to the ridge and then west toward Humphreys before dropping down toward Beard Spring/Beard Canyon. That was a very steep, loose descent that required some effort to avoid ending up at the bottom of the mountain in ~10 seconds, and I ended up with a few extra pounds in my boots after surfing/sliding down in the deep dirt and rock. Flat, solid ground was very welcome when that was over.

I followed some roads and drainages over to the deserted Inner Basin and explored that area a little before turning around to get back on Waterline and circle around the east side of the mountain. A maintenance worker near one of the pump houses was the first person I'd seen all day. It was easy hiking along Waterline with some nice views from the rare gaps in the trees. I connected with Bear Jaw to finish off the figure-eight a little after 1PM and only saw two hikers the whole day, both fairly close to the trailhead at the end. Overall, a really enjoyable hike with a mix of on- and off-trail, a few peaks, great views, a crash site, and very few people.

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May 19 2025
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Waterline Trail #146Flagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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mt98dewTriplogs 2,387
Hiking13.35 Miles 1,385 AEG
Hiking13.35 Miles   3 Hrs   46 Mns   3.54 mph
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Early morning hike in Flagstaff. I decided I would try to knock out a part of the Waterline Trail. This was not a trail I was really looking forward to, but I hate leaving uninspiring trails to the end of “get er’ done” list. I was hoping to hike in to the Inner Basin Trail and then knock out the back end at some later date.

Got to the Weatherford TH around 4:30. Daylight was just starting to color the sky. Hiked in about .9 miles to reach the gate. The road/(trail) was probably the best dirt road I’ve ever hiked on. It looks like a lot of work has been and is being done to fortify the road from future run offs. I hiked in a little under 7 miles and I counted over 50 rock mesh and cement barriers to help try to control rain run off. As soon as I passed the gate I started seeing machinery that was being used to construct these barriers. Most of it looked done, but about 6 miles in there were signs of obvious ongoing construction. I wasn’t sure how active this ongoing construction was, but I definitely didn’t want to be in the middle of it. This, plus the fact that Velva was waiting back in Flagstaff for me caused me to turn around sooner than I planned. This turned out to be a good decision. My legs were chaffing at the end and as I hiked out I passed a couple of workers who I think were warned about my approach and waited for me to pass before hopping on their equipment.

The area is incredibly barren. The fire devastated the mountain. This does allow for some nice distant views. Not much was noteworthy about the trail and the immediate area. The trail did have a very mild grade. Ideal for bikers or runners. At 2.85 there was a neat rock arch that the road cut through. At 4.7 i actually found some live trees, though that only lasted for about .3 miles. It was jacket weather, but it wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be. I didn’t see anyone else on the trail except for a handful of construction workers. Open views equaled abundant wildlife. Saw 36 deer and I’m sure there were a few I missed.
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Oct 12 2024
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Abineau - Bear Jaw LoopFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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mikemcgTriplogs 129
Hiking8.22 Miles 1,888 AEG
Hiking8.22 Miles   4 Hrs   27 Mns   2.15 mph
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Fourth time on this loop. One of our favorite spots for fall colors. Started at 1250. The parking lot was full, and vehicles were parked on the road up to 300 meters away. We parked 70 meters from the trailhead and started from there. Despite all the vehicles, we saw only about 12 people (and 10 dogs) over the entire loop. Went up Abineau, counterclockwise. The aspen leaves were green at the bottom, but bright gold a little over a mile in. There were small clusters of vibrant gold leaves mixed with pines for about a mile, then no gold the rest of the way along Abineau. Along the Waterline Road, it's all pines for about a mile, then vibrant aspens. Surprisingly, the upper third of the Bear Jaw Trail, which is usually the best spot for fall colors, was almost completely bare, as almost all of the leaves had fallen. There were clusters of golden leaves in the middle third of the Bear Jaw Trail, and one very large area of vibrant gold color as far as we could see. The Lower third of Bear Jaw consisted of mostly green foliage with a few trees that were turning gold. The weather was great. Sunny, upper 70s at the bottom, mid-upper 60s at the top, shaded the entire way. We saw plenty of gold, although less than anticipated, and had a beautiful day overall.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Moderate
Aspen leaves were green at the bottom, at their golden peak about little over a mile from the trailhead, and way past their peak (almost bare) further up in altitude.
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Oct 05 2024
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 Tempe, AZ
Inner Basin to Doyle PeakFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 05 2024
chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking10.76 Miles 3,407 AEG
Hiking10.76 Miles   7 Hrs   17 Mns   1.79 mph
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After the disaster of riding my bike to the trailhead, I started my hike totally depleted of energy and stamina. Apparently oxygen isn't a thing here either. It was slow going and I had continual thoughts of where and when to call it a day and turn around. Somehow I carried on.

There were a handful of people on 29, but nothing obnoxious. Above the waterline road, I didn't see another soul over the next 5 and a half hours of trudgery. As was the case last year, the water department has graded every old two track to Prius quality. This includes the former cavern that was once the trail from the bus stop up to the 10k contour.

Knowing that stretch of trail is giving Y-bar a run for its money, I stayed in the drainage and climbed to Doyle spring before cutting over to the trail again. I think the stretch of 102 from the 29 junction down to the saddle is my least traveled stretch. Usually when I'm here I go up and add Fremont too. But having done that a couple of months ago I headed over to Doyle.

The view of the inner basin from 11,060 in fall is perhaps my favorite scene in the state. Of course to get there now requires a depressing traverse of absolute maximum heat destruction. It is what it is. No going back now.

The top is still neutralized with nary a blade of grass pushing through the ash yet. Lower down, some horribly unhealthy and sickly aspen are making it a bit of a bushwhack to get through. I spooked two sets of elk including a huge buck and 3 bulls, followed by another harem of ladies half a mile later.

I made the pre-planned but idiotic decision to cut some mileage and drop off the ridgeline straight down to the waterline road near the edge of the burn boundary. The steepitude of this slope cannot be understated. 1010 do not recommend.

Skipped like Dorothy along the yellow-brick road to the former no-molestation station before opting for the old upper 552 two-track back to Lockett for a different view and fewer afternoon peepers.

An additional 3 miles on foot would not have been particularly enjoyable, so I was happy to find my bike where I left it, with two fully inflated tires ready to roll.
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Oct 07 2023
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Inner Basin Cirque HikeFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking14.13 Miles 2,890 AEG
Hiking14.13 Miles   5 Hrs   23 Mns   2.74 mph
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As always, the inner basin of the San Francisco Peaks is a gem of autumn. Unlike always, it is significantly more pleasant because the road to Lockett Meadow is closed to motor vehicles (there's really no logical reason for this, as it's in the best condition of my lifetime, but I'm not complaining). This results in not completely deserted enjoyment, but significantly reduced amusement park atmosphere.

We started up 151 and continued beyond the bus stop before cutting across toward the road up to snowslide spring. In addition to the still closed 522, the FS (or perhaps Flag Water Co) has cleared and graded ALL the roads in the inner basin. If legal, you could drive a prius to any destination on the map. It's really quite something to see, though I'm not entirely sure I'm thrilled about the recent improvements.

Work at the molestation snow shed had an open spring box with running water, and a broken pipe farther up in the bowl resulted in that rare treat of a running stream. The colors are a week later than what I expected. Still plenty of green, especially down low. Still no shortage of golden hues to be found.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Moderate
A week early. Lower stretches mostly green. Better patches of solid gold higher up.
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Oct 08 2022
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Sufferfest 22, AZ 
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Hiking22.23 Miles 4,467 AEG
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I came up with this plan a month or so ago to take advantage of the pipeline closure area and hopefully hit some seasonal highlights. I had two weekends in mind, and we ended up choosing this over next. It didn't earn this name until it started snowing and we had only made it 20% of the way :sweat: .

In the time since making the plan, CNF updated the closure area, making it a little bit easier to get up here, but we decided to stick to the plan anyway.

Ryan and I drove up Friday and camped in Hart Prairie. The aspens were lemon-lime and the peaks took on some afternoon clouds above 11k which did not break for the next 3 days. We met up with SlowandBi9L :o at Snowbowl in the morning. It was a little bit jarring to my mental psyche exactly how many vehicles were already at the trailhead at this somewhat early hour! This is exactly the feces this planned route was supposed to avoid! ](*,)

Nonetheless, the handful of groups we encountered were quickly forgotten as we made steady progress uphill. We hit the cloud deck at around 11k, and it provided obscured views and some unexpected snow flurries. At the saddle we attempted to take a break, but the wind was miserable and the temps in the cloud and snow dropped to 34, so we put some effort into getting over to the basin and drop some elevation as quickly as we could. (None among us felt the need to add any mileage today to visit a peak we've all been to for the 50-feet views we would be blessed with!)

Near the bottom of the long Weatherford switchbacks we dropped below the clouds and got our first glimpses of the golden basin below. After a short stop at Doyle Saddle, we headed down 29, which has eroded into a rockfest that makes me reconsider my previous opinion of Y-Bar.

We encountered the basin's only other hikers hikers near the bus stop enjoying fall colors and some mushrooms. From here we took a delightfully tibberlike stroll across the Waterline over to Bear Jaw (lots of stops for photos). These 3 or 4 miles were the prime color spots on the day and made all the suffering worth it.

The crux was always going to be the 2 miles from ABJ to AZT. A mile or so was easily maneuvered via old two tracks and some pleasant meadows, but sort of as expected there was some slow going with thick forest and deadfall linking together with random elk tracks before reaching the AZT.

A few miles of mild uphill with great views and stunning autumn things brought us back to the start where dozens of tourists were enjoying the sunset views across Hart Prairie.

It got chilly fast as the sun disappeared and after a long day we went our separate ways to partake of food and beverage as a well-earned reward after this big loop in the Kachina Peaks Wilderness.

I'd actually like to see the FS establish a route between ABJ and AZT as I believe that the Flagstaff trail running population would really enjoy this loop without the extra mileage and annoyance of a few miles on the 418. Not holding my breath.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial
A couple spots in the upper IB past prime. Waterline and upper Bear Jaw perfect. Snowbowl, Aspen Corner, Nature Loop pockets of gold, but still a lot of green.
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Oct 08 2022
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Sufferfest 22, AZ 
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BiFrostTriplogs 1,257
Hiking22.23 Miles 4,467 AEG
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Long loop around Humphreys but fun. We started from Snowbowl parking lot with the masses unfortunately but they thinned out as we ascended. By the time we reached the summit saddle we were in the clouds and a light snow was falling. Wind was brutal on the saddle so we quickly descended down the Weatherford trail and away from the masses. Continued on Weatherford to Inner Basin and since the road was partly closed the usual crowds were not an issue.

Stopped at the pumphouse for a break after enjoying some fall color in the basin. Then continued on the Waterline road to enjoy some more fall color. Very nice hiking on the road and great way to enjoy the foliage. Eventually we made it to the Bear Jaw turn off and descended down to the parking lot.

From there the not fun began. We had about 2 miles of off trail to where it meets the AZT. Lots of down trees and general messiness to hike through but eventually reached the AZT and nice trail.

AZT was a fast track back to Snowbowl with some fall color and late day sun made views over Hart Prairie scenic. Reached Snowbowl parking lot as it was getting dark and quite cold. Full day with the long loop!
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Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial
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Oct 06 2022
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Flagstaff Fall Foliage, AZ 
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Hiking13.42 Miles 2,274 AEG
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I wanted to check out the fall foliage in Flag, and I am sure glad that I did -- the aspen foliage is peaking right now.

I did an out-and-back hike from the ABJ trailhead to the storm shelter in the Inner Basin and back. I had checked the fire closure order and this route appears to be legal. I was surprised that there were no closure signs there around the junction of Waterline Road and the upper part of the Inner Basin Trail.

This was the first hike that I have been on in a while that I encountered other hikers. On the way back there were 2 different groups of 2 on Waterline Road, and there were several hikers coming up the Bear Jaw Trail as I was descending.

I bet that Route Scout rebooted 40-50 times on the hike yesterday. I took LOTS of pictures, and as often as not after taking a pic, Route Scout would reboot. I may have to start using my garmin device on hikes that I take lots of pictures. That is unfortunate, as I like Route Scout much, much better than garmin.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Extreme
If you like yellow aspen leaves, Waterline Road is a good place to be right now.
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Oct 06 2022
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Rees - Abineau Loop, AZ 
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Hiking17.14 Miles 4,969 AEG
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20th trip to the SF Peaks, this time for Rees and Abineau, the only remaining summits on the mountain I hadn't walked over, as well as obviously the fall color. Lockett Meadow and Schultz tank TH were closed, so I came in from the ABJ side and did this figure 8.

Started a little before sunrise. The precipitation that had rolled through the previous evening/night had left clouds below the mountain to the north. Great views of them from Abineau.

Waterline revealed as prime of fall conditions as I've seen on it in person. Around the Bear Jaw junction was just perfect. I left Waterline road and headed up for Rees hoping enough snow had dropped to keep it mostly above board.

Rees took me longer than I'd hoped, but it wasn't because of snow. At some point the inversion layer rose to my level and then above. When I made Rees the unparalleled Inner Basin views were obscured by the cloud deck. Made for a very dramatic ridgewalk to Abineau.

After that I dropped into Inner Basin around Beard Canyon. Peak fall color all over IB made for a great descent, especially being so close to the bottom of the clouds. Around Bear Paw spring a big black bear walked up the road to about 20yards in front of me. When we noticed eachother it took off. I had seen only a few traces of bears up there before the fire and the closures, and since then I've seen a few in only a couple trips. Attribute this to the lack of human traffic and the reduced habitat.

Had Inner Basin to myself probably due to the Pipeline closure. Clouds made the yellow pop. Waterline looping back around was peak. Bear Jaw maybe had the best color of the day. Absolute peak higher up.

Glad to complete the summits and would be difficult to dream up a better day for it.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Extreme
Waterline, upper Inner Basin, and upper Bear Jaw just perfect
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Humphreys via Inner BasinFlagstaff, AZ
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I decided to head up to Flag and hike up to Humphreys again. This time I went from the Inner Basin, a route that I like much better than coming from Snowbowl.

There is no snow left on the Inner Basin Trail, although there were a few drifts alongside the trail. The Weatherford Trail is completely snow free -- I was thinking that there might be a little snow left on the trail on the east side of Agassiz, but that was not the case.

It was a nice day for the hike, although clouds started in build in the late morning. On the way back there were a few rumbles of thunder as I descended the Inner Basin Trail, and I got rained on when I got into the open area of the Inner Basin. I stopped for 10-15 minutes in the shelter in the Inner Basin and waited until the rain stopped.

I hardly saw anyone on the hike until I got to Agassiz Saddle. There were quite a few people coming up as I descended from Humphreys down to the saddle, and I had to stop a number of times to let uphill hikers come through. I do not recall ever seeing so many people on this section of the trail.

It was nice to escape the heat of the VOS and do this hike again!
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Wildflowers Observation Isolated
There were a few flowers here and there, but it is a bit early yet in this area.
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Oct 14 2021
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Hiking12.60 Miles 2,717 AEG
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I did two hikes today: one in the Inner Basin and the other to Mormon Mountain

Inner Basin
I had planned to hike in Flagstaff last week to see the fall foliage, but decided to go to the White Mountains instead. So I figured that I would hike in Flag today, even though I suspected that the foliage would be gone after the recent storms; it turned out that I was right.

The Inner Basin Trail was covered with an inch or so layer of snow and ice, so I wore microspikes.

There were very, very few yellow leaves. I hiked up to where the emergency shelter is in the heart of the Inner Basin, and then turned around. On the way back I went a short distance on the Waterline Trail toward Bear Jaw before turning around.

There was a short window for leaves this year in the Inner Basin. On 10/7 it was reported on this site that foliage was moderate; on 10/9 it was reported that foliage was substantial but not quite at peak; and now on 10/14 the foliage is essentially gone.

My original plan was to hike up to Rees Peak, but with the lack of fall foliage I decided to cut this hike short and hike up to Mormon Mountain on my way back home.

Mormon Mountain
I had never done this hike before and I enjoyed it. There was some snow on sections of the trail, but I never put microspikes on. Once I got to the towers, I headed a bit NW to the highpoint. Just below the highpoint there was a nice vantage point through the trees that provided a nice view of the San Francisco Peaks.

Synopsis
Even though there was no aspen foliage to speak of at the Inner Basin, I enjoyed hiking in the snow.

Mormon Mountain did not have a lot in the way of breathtaking views, but I enjoyed hiking through the woods. I would do the hike again sometime.

Distance and elevation gain for the two hikes is below. The stats above are the sum of the two.

Inner Basin: 5.5 miles with an AEG of 1,165 feet
Mormon Mountain: 7.1 miles with an AEG of 1,552 feet
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Autumn Foliage Observation Isolated
Aspen foliage is essentially gone in the Inner Basin
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Inner Basin, AZ 
Inner Basin, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 12 2021
chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking4.83 Miles 1,742 AEG
Hiking4.83 Miles   3 Hrs   13 Mns   1.50 mph
1,742 ft AEG
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After hiking nearby on Saturday, I knew the inner basin was looking ok for fall. The forecast was beastly, calling for winds over 60mph on the peaks and as much as 4 inches of snow... you don't get to experience life by watching netflix in the valley, so I set out to spend the night camping in Lockett Meadow, hoping to awake to a scene I hadn't previously enjoyed.

I was expecting to have to huddle in my tent (or truck) all night due to the extreme wind and cold temps, but was happy to find a spot to camp that was so sheltered that I felt totally comfortable setting up a pop-up canopy and even have a fire! The winds howled through the treetops with frightening ferocity, but at the surface, only an occasional light gust of wind blew through my camp.

Then it started to snow. Hard. And the wind picked up. And lightning flashed closely. A lot. Bang!! Thundersnow! :y: I took refuge in my truck for about half an hour until the storm lessened. I put the fire out and set up my tent under the easy up. I awoke numerous times overnight to the sound of the wind pushing my tent. It was never as bad on the ground as it sounded in the trees above.

As dawn slowly broke, my hopes for a sunrise through breaking clouds illuminating the inner basin were thwarted by being socked in the clouds, driving snow continuing to fall, and severe winds. The temperature was 21. Oh well. I crawled back into my sleeping bag for a couple of hours.

It didn't get warmer or less windy. But it was light out so I decided to pack things up and go for a hike. It's nice making the only footprints in the snow in a place as beautiful as this. There was an inch or two more snow than forecast. There were a lot of leaves polka-dotting the surface. Plus small branches. There were a handful of mature trees that had been snapped by the wind about 30 feet off the ground. The waterline road had a stretch that looked like a tornado had been through. I kept my eyes pointed upward as the wind continued, looking to avoid the next tree to fall.

The clouds still settled in the basin so I didn't continue beyond the waterline as I figured there wouldn't be anything to see anyway. There were maybe four or five people getting on the trail as I finished, having ventured up the mountain in the morning.

The clouds showed some signs of breaking. I didn't want to wait. But I was hoping to get that great view into the basin with snowcapped peaks from Sugarloaf. So I started heading up, hoping it would clear a bit before I got to the summit. It never happened. Oh well. You don't catch that rare moment if you're not in position to catch it! I'll try it again another time.

I opted for the long way around the peaks for my route back home. I stopped in a couple of spots along the way to soak in a few really enjoyable scenes.

It was a cold night. What I was hoping to see never materialized. And it was still fun af. I'd do it again tomorrow if the same conditions presented themselves!
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[ checklist ]  Autumn - Color Foliage  Wind
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Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial
Technically early. Still good pockets of green aspens. But 60mph winds stripped a lot of leaves and more, so much of the existing yellow was on the ground.
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Oct 09 2021
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 Tempe, AZ
Inner Basin Trail #29Flagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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mikemcgTriplogs 129
Hiking7.03 Miles 1,418 AEG
Hiking7.03 Miles   3 Hrs   44 Mns   2.32 mph
1,418 ft AEG      42 Mns Break
 
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We were ready for some fall colors. Traffic was being diverted away from Lockett Meadow Road (NF-552) when we arrived mid-morning, and we were informed that we could return after 1530, so we did that.
We were struck by the lush gold foliage when we arrived at Lockett Meadow at 1545. The leaves at the trailhead were still green, but they soon changed to gold about 200 meters in, with patches of green. There were few leaves on the ground. There were so many people throughout the first 0.8 mile of the trail, but almost no people (4 small groups) and many chirping birds beyond that point.
We went slightly past Raspberry Spring, taking numerous pictures along the way, then found the well-defined use trail to the secret meadow, where we frolicked for a little bit. The gold leaves looked amazing during the golden hour. We then continued along the use trail to the Waterline Road, which we followed back to Lockett Meadow.
Overall, it was gorgeous weather and a beautiful day.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial
Not quite at peak. About 70% lush gold / yellow foliage, 30% green. Only a few leaves on the ground.
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Wildflowers Observation Light
There were patches of gold wildflowers to match the gold leaves.
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Oct 07 2021
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 Joined Jun 02 2019
 Phoenix, AZ
Fremont Peak, AZ 
Fremont Peak, AZ
 
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LJWTriplogs 266
Hiking14.04 Miles 4,051 AEG
Hiking14.04 Miles   12 Hrs      2.16 mph
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A friend and I went out and back, sort of, up Fremont to get a look over the fall color. South side of the mountain is dragging this year, so we started from Lockett and hoped the recent storm sped things up at least in the Inner Basin. Got going around 6am.

Passed a couple people straight away and then saw no one until coming back down the steeper parts of Inner Basin Trail. Never seen the IB switchbacks in full glow, wasn't the day for it. Upper IB is at peak. Not too much green left and not too many leaves on the ground.

Weatherford to Fremont (the upper) Saddle for the split ascent up the ridge. Made the summit below cloudy skies. Eventually they cleared and Inner Basin started to glow. The turn in IB is mostly just higher up, so all the nearest stands were shining. Three and a half hours on the summit soaking it in, tossed out any plans at adding anything else to the day.

Down toward Doyle Saddle and cut down a rock/ash slide to save a mile. Awesome views as the sun got low. Digging heels in could practically ski down the mountain.

Went a different way through IB. Took a use trail to the sort-of-secret meadow south of the trail. Better colors there than on the trail proper. Got down to the waterline jct and took it south through the yellow toward Sugarloaf. Got down too late and decided to skip the trip up.

40-60s, not too many people there even for a weekday. Lots of campers.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Moderate
Inner Basin peaking up top, starting down low, waterline green where it meets IB, peak south of IB
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Oct 03 2021
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 Joined Jun 02 2019
 Phoenix, AZ
Humphreys Loop, AZ 
Humphreys Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 03 2021
LJWTriplogs 266
Hiking23.54 Miles 6,120 AEG
Hiking23.54 Miles   10 Hrs   8 Mns   2.65 mph
6,120 ft AEG   1 Hour   15 Mns Break
 
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I did this loop last fall without the summit, and it ended up being a nice early fall route connecting some of the earlier changing aspen patches in Inner Basin and along the northern part of Waterline Trail. Added the summit because I'd never heard of anyone going up, down, and around Humphreys, and it seemed like a neat idea. Fall's late on the mountain, and I was a few days early. Just about everywhere on the mountain is 2-5 days off trend.

Started at 5am and hiked for an hour by headlamp. Passed two groups coming down above the saddle. Nobody else until Fremont Saddle, and the day got very busy. Passed maybe 50 groups total. Lots of very friendly people out and about. Not too many aspens have turned yet around the mountain, but I stayed on the north side of Inner Basin using a couple roads and found enough color to satisfy. Waterline a mix. Lots of people out on Abineau - Bear Jaw. That loop is turning unusually late as well.

From the Waterline/Abineau junction I went over the ridge west of Abineau Canyon. It was cloudy and cold this time around, so I used the clearing that ends at the patch of rock fall. Maneuvered below as much as I could before going up. Had a much easier time avoiding bushwhacking, couldn't find a solution to how steep it is. Down White Horse Canyon, the upper parts of which are awesome. Views from Kendrick to Kayenta. Open forest and loose footing turns into a deadfall nightmare lower down. It isn't so bad in the canyon, but once circling around SW toward the AZT it is, well, super irritating. Eventually dumped into a long meadow that has a trail running from it's eastern end to Lew Tank and the AZT. Took that back around to the Snowbowl connector and back up to the TH.
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Snowbowl still green, Inner Basin just turning higher up, a week away lower down, Bear Jaw nearing peak, Abineau still mostly green, Waterline a mix
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Wildflowers Observation Isolated
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Oct 02 2021
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 Joined Jun 20 2003
 Tucson, AZ
Flagstaff Sky Peaks 50 Miler, AZ 
Flagstaff Sky Peaks 50 Miler, AZ
 
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fricknaleyTriplogs 4,124
Run/Jog52.62 Miles 6,332 AEG
Run/Jog52.62 Miles   13 Hrs   36 Mns   4.05 mph
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I have always wanted to circumnavigate the San Francisco Peaks and I finally got the chance with this event.

Long day out there with plenty of highs and lows to really make the most of it. It was a small, well run event and I had the experience I was hoping for. Beautiful weather and blazing aspen all over the place were the icing on the cake.

Michelle and Sierra surprised me and met me at the 20 mile aid station before the big climb up to the inner basin and that was probably the highlight of the day. The last 3.5 miles were in the dark.

What a day! :y:
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 Fountain Hills,
Lee Humphreys, AZ 
Lee Humphreys, AZ
 
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,374
Hiking18.00 Miles 4,902 AEG
Hiking18.00 Miles
4,902 ft AEG
 
1st trip
I hiked up to Humphreys Peak via the Inner Basin, and on the way home I stopped off and hiked up to the Lee Butte Fire Lookout.

Humphreys Peak
I hiked up to Humphreys from the Inner Basin. The upper section of the Inner Basin Trail seems much rockier than it used to be.

In the morning I saw a couple of deer in the lower section of the Inner Basin Trail, amongst all the aspens.

It was a near perfect day for the hike -- not cold, not hot, and with a gentle breeze blowing for much of the day.

On the way back I took a service road back to the TH instead of going through the switchbacks on the lower portion of the Inner Basin Trail.

Lee Butte
On the way back home I stopped and hiked up to Lee Butte to see the fire lookout tower there.

The lookout is inactive, but the tower is in decent shape. The stairs seemed solid, so I climbed the stairs and got up in the cab. The views were nice, and I am glad that I made the trek to this lookout.

I found a benchmark underneath the tower.

It was a nice stroll up a forest road to the tower. This is a nice area and I enjoyed the short hike.

Synopsis
Sorry Humphreys, but Lee Butte was the highlight of this hiking day.

Distance and elevation gain for the 2 hikes are below. Stats above are the sum of the two.

Humphreys: 16.3 miles with an AEG of 4,554 feet
Lee Butte: 1.7 miles with an AEG of 348 feet
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 Fountain Hills,
Humphreys - Deadman LO, AZ 
Humphreys - Deadman LO, AZ
 
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,374
Hiking18.40 Miles 4,643 AEG
Hiking18.40 Miles
4,643 ft AEG
 
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I hiked up to Humphreys from the Inner Basin, and afterwards drove north of the San Francisco Peaks and hiked up to the Deadman Fire Lookout atop Peak 7143.

Humphreys
It was about a perfect day to hike up to Humphreys - mild temperatures with no threat of rain or storms. I only saw one person on the trail until I got to Agassiz Saddle; from the saddle to the summit there were a few people on the trail, but not very many.

The road into the Inner Basin (FR 553) is about as good as it gets right now -- most any car could easily make the drive. When I drove in there was a road grader parked at the turn to FR 553; when I came back in the afternoon the grader was gone. So I would guess that they graded the road a day or two prior to my hike.

Deadman LO
I have been wanting to hike to the Deadman LO, and this seemed like a good day.

I was a short hike on a forest road (FR 773A) to the summit. The vegetation on the way up to the summit was really green, and there were a few wildflowers blooming along the way. The summit has some really nice unobstructed 360 degree views. I enjoyed the views as much or more than from atop Humphreys.

All that is left of the lookout cabin at the summit is the foundation and floor joists. I do not know any details about the lookout, other than it was a 2 story cabin. Here is a link to a picture of it:


If you go to this LO, be leery of google maps directions, which will try and get you go FR418 to FR419. FR418 is a good road but FR419 is rocky and gnarly. I went in FR514 to FR773. I only drove a short distance on FR773A and decided to park and hike up to the summit. It is a pleasant stroll so I am glad that I hiked up the road.

Summary
These are 3 good hikes; I really enjoyed the short hike to the Deadman LO and I will probably do it again sometime.

The stats for the 2 hikes are below. The total above is the sum of the two.
Humphreys: 16.7 miles with an AEG of 4,400 feet
Deadman: 1.7 miles with an AEG of 243 feet
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