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Windgate Pass Trail - MSP - 40 members in 262 triplogs have rated this an average 3.3 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Nov 28 2025
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51 male
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 Tucson, AZ
Toms Thumb Windgate Pass lolly, AZ 
Toms Thumb Windgate Pass lolly, AZ
 
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JackluminousTriplogs 286
Hiking13.72 Miles 3,788 AEG
Hiking13.72 Miles   6 Hrs   32 Mns   2.46 mph
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Felt like a good climb and a few miles might help counteract the less pleasant effects of Turkey Day indulgences.

A fair amount of other people had similar notions. Even some of the more remote and less used trails had people on them.

Had the Lookout to myself for about five minutes. It was still a peaceful spot to have lunch and watch the fountain start and stop.

East End and most of the return hike was exposed and sunny. Even though the afternoon high was in the low 70s I still felt cooked. I sucked down almost all my 3-1/2 liters of water.

I noticed on my last couple hikes that Route Scout has taken to calling me a stud muffin.
 
Oct 23 2025
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 Far NE Phoenix,
Windgate Bell LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 23 2025
The_EagleTriplogs 2,833
Hiking9.91 Miles 2,090 AEG
Hiking9.91 Miles   3 Hrs   44 Mns   2.69 mph
2,090 ft AEG      3 Mns Break
 
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I had not hit up the Micky D's in awhile and the temps cooperated. I did the CCW loop from the Gateway TH passing the normal crowd that was doing the Gateway Loop. Off of that section, I only saw 2 people and none on the east side of the passes.

All the recent rain has turned the desert into what looks like Ireland with all the green. Also was surprise at the amount of flowers that were blooming.
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Oct 05 2025
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 phoenix, az
Windgate Bell LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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trekkin_geckoTriplogs 4,753
Hiking9.54 Miles 2,070 AEG
Hiking9.54 Miles   2 Hrs   57 Mns   3.23 mph
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hit john up to hike not on south mountain this morning
got going right at 0600 with temps in low 60s
bell pass is always a good workout
few people until finishing on gateway loop
breakfast at brass rail after
thanks john, nice morning
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Oct 05 2025
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 Joined Mar 16 2008
 chandler,az
Windgate Bell LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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johnlpTriplogs 5,236
Hiking9.54 Miles 2,070 AEG
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It's been a while since we hiked in the McDowells. Beautiful morning. Thanks Kelly! :)
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Mar 29 2025
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 Joined Jul 05 2006
 Mesa, AZ
Windgate Bell LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 29 2025
DarthStillerTriplogs 873
Hiking12.02 Miles 2,297 AEG
Hiking12.02 Miles   5 Hrs   17 Mns   2.30 mph
2,297 ft AEG      3 Mns Break
 
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Stayed local this weekend so I picked the Windgate-Bell Loop for a decent workout hike that I haven't done in 8 or 9 years. Andy was looking for somewhere to hike and this fit the bill for him, too.

I did a variation to try a figure 8 of the loop to add some mileage and AEG by incorporating the Gateway Loop Trail. We started up Windgate Pass, took Gateway over to Bell Pass, looped over both passes CCW then decided to cop out and take the Desert Park Trail rather than complete the figure 8. That bottom part of Windgate Pass gets a bit too steep and rocky after 9 miles.

Desert Park is still rocky, but mostly level and almost zero traffic. It's only a half mile longer than taking Windgate Pass back to the trailhead, but it's easier on the feet and legs.

Very cloudy, hazy, and even a bit gloomy at the start. I had zero complaints about this as it kept the temperature almost chilly, which was perfect for the slog up Bell Pass. The last part of Bell Pass was still in the shade, which helped even more. By the time we were over Bell Pass the sun was out, which made mildly better lighting for pictures, but not much. On the west side of the slope coming down Bell Pass, there's what looks like a mining road in the McDowell Mtn park area. I'm pretty sure it's not a trail. I tried to find on a satellite view but was having trouble. Possible future scouting hike.

Bell Pass Trail has a "Steeper/Less Steep" split that I don't remember seeing last time. We took the steeper section, which gave me Mt. Ord flashbacks.

Heavy traffic at the start with the hordes arriving and waiting for Scottsdale to open the gates, then it thinned out the further we got in. Saw a big group of 20+ people with a group of kids, then a few on Windgate Pass on the way back. One biker on Desert Park and that was it.
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Nov 01 2024
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 Joined Nov 17 2008
 phoenix, az
Tom's Thumb Loop, AZ 
Tom's Thumb Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Nov 01 2024
trekkin_geckoTriplogs 4,753
Hiking12.69 Miles 3,109 AEG
Hiking12.69 Miles   4 Hrs   9 Mns   3.11 mph
3,109 ft AEG      4 Mns Break
 
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john and i got going from gateway around 0645
did the big loop counterclockwise
gateway, bell pass, east end, a side trip to the base of tom's thumb, down tom's thumb trail, windgate and gateway loop
good ascents up bell pass and east end
looked at the climbing route mike and i did eleven years ago
not many people until back on windgate
temps were just about perfect and we had quite a bit of shade early
this is always a good hike
thanks for coffee, driving and lunch, john :)
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Nov 01 2024
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 Joined Mar 16 2008
 chandler,az
Tom's Thumb Loop, AZ 
Tom's Thumb Loop, AZ
 
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johnlpTriplogs 5,236
Hiking12.69 Miles 3,109 AEG
Hiking12.69 Miles   4 Hrs   9 Mns   3.11 mph
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Keeping up with the Joneses. Counterclockwise. Beautiful day for a hike. Didn't see many hikers until the last couple miles, then quite a few. Thanks Kelly! :)
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Oct 28 2024
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 Joined Jan 20 2009
 Far NE Phoenix,
Gateway - Thumb End - Bell, AZ 
Gateway - Thumb End - Bell, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 28 2024
The_EagleTriplogs 2,833
Hiking13.10 Miles 2,922 AEG
Hiking13.10 Miles   6 Hrs   2 Mns   2.23 mph
2,922 ft AEG      10 Mns Break10 LBS Pack
 
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With the temps finally getting decent, I did my first hike in the valley since April. It was in the low 60s when we started at 6:30 a.m. and warmed up to the low 80s by noon.

We were in search of fall colors. Scratch that, we were in the McDowells

We arrived to a mostly empty parking lot and hit the trail. We took the loop clockwise and made the climb to Tom's Thumb, staying in the shade about 95% of the time.

Linda mentioned she needed to meet some of her relatives up top, so I showed her the Ogre's Den.

On the way down, she pointed out a hawk perched on top of a cactus that neither of us could identify. I'm sure the photos will be blurry, but it looked like a cross between a hawk and a seagull or maybe an albino hawk. There was a lot of white on it.

The east side of the Bell Pass Trail went smoothly in the full sun with an occasional breeze.

We took a short break at the top, then mostly coasted downhill to finish.

As we were finishing, I was able to provide a lady starting her hike with some helpful information. She was looking for some loop information and what to do if she saw a snake.

It got a little warm but nothing too crazy. It was great hiking with Linda again.

We didn’t have coffee after the hike.

Let the valley hiking season begin!

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Dry where it crosses the trail. I wonder if the pipe broke further up, or if it just dried up. It used to be quite reliable.
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 Joined Dec 24 2007
 Ahwatukee, AZ
Tom - Bell loop, AZ 
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,680
Hiking12.58 Miles 2,977 AEG
Hiking12.58 Miles   5 Hrs   22 Mns   2.44 mph
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After tossing around a few different options, we settled on an always good loop in the McDowells. Met Bruce at the Gateway Trailhead at 0630, and we made our way over towards Windgate and Tom’s Thumb trails. Nice temps to start, and shade nearly the entire way up the Tom’s Thumb trail, which was very much appreciated.

Once finally in the sun, we were heading downhill, so I kept my complaining to a minimum. Bruce showed me his backup home for when he gets kicked out of his house. The descent down East End went quickly.

I whined a lot climbing up to Bell Pass, but Bruce brought his cattle prod along and kept me mostly moving uphill. Quick break at the pass to enjoy the breeze, then an easy (but warm) walk the rest of the way back to the trailhead. Some interesting people watching, and Bruce gave a creative rattlesnake tutorial to one novice hiker. Good workout hike, and good to hike with Bruce again.
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McDowell Mountains / Tom's ThumbPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,511
Climbing16.84 Miles 3,897 AEG
Climbing16.84 Miles   5 Hrs   36 Mns   3.17 mph
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No nutrition waist channels were signed into the summit register for 05-May,'18, so the Linked trail guide one did for that day is a lie. It would be fun to research how many more they've embellished. :-s I digress, but at 5:41am the mindless greyhounds all crushed onto the Gateway Loop Trail, so I chose the more mellow Desert Park start. The rat race was avoided because none of them were seen again for the rest of my hike and double T solo. The East End ascent was hot and humid, then some nice breezes and cloud cover helped immensely. I need to remember that the Tom's Thumb TH doesn't have water because two liters was slightly inadequate. :sweat:
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May 12 2024
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Windgate Bell LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking11.62 Miles 3,149 AEG
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It was incredibly smoky in the lower Verde River Valley, which obscured much of the view to the east. I'd guess this is because of the Horse, Peak and Wolf Fire's smoke settling overnight. Surprisingly, it didn't feel hot once in the sun at Bell Pass, so adding on the two peaks to the loop was easy-peasy with the breezes. It's ridiculous that McDowell Peak has been culture cancelled considering that there's an ammo box up there with a bunch of admitted lawbreakers signed in. Cool stories bros! Why not commit a felony so one of you could be elected president and pardon the others?! :lol:
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Apr 07 2024
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67 female
 Joined Nov 17 2008
 phoenix, az
Windgate Bell LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
 Hiking avatar Apr 07 2024
trekkin_geckoTriplogs 4,753
 Hiking9.49 Miles 2,070 AEG
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Got going around 0600 from gateway
Did the loop counterclockwise
Decent amount of wildflowers, mostly lupine and scorpionweed
Not many people until back on gateway loop
Cool temps, nice morning
Thanks, lp
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Apr 07 2024
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 chandler,az
Windgate Bell LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Considering our very busy social lives, we needed a local hike in order to finish early enough for breakfast and other festivities.
We kept a good pace admiring the still strong wildflowers along the way and enjoying the below normal temperatures.
Good day on the trails. Thanks Kelly. :)
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Mar 16 2024
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Dixie Mine - Windgate Lasso Loop, AZ 
Dixie Mine - Windgate Lasso Loop, AZ
 
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,434
Hiking16.18 Miles 3,176 AEG
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I decided to stay close to home today and take advantage of cool weather to do this longish hike.

I did a lasso loop starting on the Dixie Mine Trail, going over Bell Pass, and then looping back on the Gateway Loop Trail, and going past Inspiration Point on the way to Windgate Pass. In other words, the loop was clockwise.

There was a fair number of people on the trails that can be easily accessed from the Gateway TH, but hardly anyone otherwise.

I heard some coyotes yapping in the morning, and saw 3 deer at Windgate Pass.

The weather was very nice for mid-March.
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Blue richards won the wildflower derby, with fiddlenecks the runnerup. Poppies had their moments along with some lupine. Brittlebush are not blooming yet.
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Mar 13 2024
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Tom's Thumb Loop off Windgate Pass TrailPhoenix, AZ
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johnlpTriplogs 5,236
Hiking10.50 Miles 2,550 AEG
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Decided to get away from Somo for a change. Started from the Gateway trailhead just before sunrise. Hiked up to the crest a bit west of Tom's Thumb. Stopped to check out the glyphs by Mountain Spring on the way back.
Wildflowers are decent. Best showing on Windgate Pass trail between Gateway Loop and Tom's Thumb trail.
Only saw three people on the way up, but about 253 on the way back. Most near the trailhead. Lots of spring break families out enjoying the fabulous weather. :)
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Adero Super Loop II, AZ 
Adero Super Loop II, AZ
 
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,434
Hiking21.86 Miles 3,505 AEG
Hiking21.86 Miles   9 Hrs   40 Mns   2.51 mph
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It was a nice day for a long hike, so I decided to do this one, which is a variation of a similar hike that I did last month.

This is a big CCW loop that starts and ends at the Adero Canyon TH. The loop goes through 3 different preserves and uses 17 different trails. The trails in the Fountain Hills Preserve are definitely the best ones on this hike!

There were a few people out on the trails in the Scottsdale Preserve, but I did not see anyone in the Fountain Hills Preserve or the Maricopa County Regional Park.
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McDowell Mountain Mother LodePhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,511
Hiking13.98 Miles 5,051 AEG
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:lol: That was a barn burner! :) I've been thinking about this hike for a few years and finally completed it in the rain today. I'll admit that thesnake lit a fire underneath me to get it done. Thanks for the TL @thesnakefromthelemma. I completed it the easier direction though, so I'll have to go back and hike it south to north like he did. One thing this hike reminded me of was that Sunrise is a really wimpy peak compared to the rest of the McDowell Mountain range. : wink : Much of this route also was familiar to the Torote Loops in the Sierra Estrella range. Could be a five star route except for all those god-damned jets overhead constantly!
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Dec 14 2023
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Dixie Mine - Toms Thumb LO Lasso Loop, AZ 
Dixie Mine - Toms Thumb LO Lasso Loop, AZ
 
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,434
Hiking18.07 Miles 3,069 AEG
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This is a version of this hike that I do once or twice a year.

I started from the Golden Eagle TH in Fountain Hills, started on the Dixie Mine Trail once I left the Eagle's Nest subdivision, and made my way over to the Tom's Thumb LO. I did the loop clockwise, so I went up on the Tom's Thumb Trail and descended on the East End Trail.

This is a decent hike to get some distance and elevation gain when the weather is cooler. It would have been nicer to have some shade and perhaps some cooler temperatures, but it wasn't hot by any means.

The trails are fairly rocky out there, and the East End Trail is very slippery when descending it.
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Oct 19 2023
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Windgate Bell LoopPhoenix, AZ
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trekkin_geckoTriplogs 4,753
Hiking9.50 Miles 2,043 AEG
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set out from gateway around 0640
very few cars in the parking lot
did the loop counterclockwise
shade and a nice breeze until bell pass
didn't do any extras - more interested in elevation gain than double digits
this is a nice workout hike
saw a few people before bell pass, no one until windgate pass
then traffic picked up a bit, especially back on gateway loop
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Oct 18 2023
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East End Peak - Loop from Gateway THPhoenix, AZ
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,511
Hiking14.22 Miles 3,285 AEG
Hiking14.22 Miles   4 Hrs   32 Mns   3.27 mph
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We decided to start our ascent with the Desert Park Trail because when the gate opens in the morning, ~98% of the hikers simultaneously crush onto the Gateway Loop like greyhounds chasing a hare, which is definitely one of the silly aspects of MSP hiking (it is Snottsdale). : wink :
This hike is essentially the same as the Tom's Thumb Loop off Windgate Pass Trail, except that it omits The Lookout. It seems fatuous that they're almost duplicates. This was Dese's first time at the McDowell's highpoint and only my second. I may have one more highly illegal ascent planned, but that'll be a triplog for another day...
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