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Been itching to get out for a walk - with the heat arriving with a vengeance, more readily accessible hiking is proving to be challenging, so I was glad to see the temps dip a little bit, and J also expressing interest in getting out to hit a trail.

Met up early to make the long drive out to the Mt. Graham region with plans to hike a portion of the Clark Peak Trail. It was nice to finally get out of the car after the long drive and start walking. The trail is decidedly brushy and slightly overgrown in various places - the berry brambles weren't too bad, but there was plenty of oak that required pushing through along with a few deadfalls to climb over (none too awful). The trail was otherwise easy enough to follow to the point where we stopped amongst loads of ferns before the trail peeled off for its descent towards Taylor Pass. With the sun beating down, the elevation and knowing that we'd be climbing back out to reach the car, we opted to while away some time enjoying the birdsong and sound of the wind through the trees before heading back out. As expected, the climb back out was made more challenging with the elevation. I seem to have been eaten alive by biting insects - and can confirm the presence of mosquitos by the presence of an inconsiderate photobomber in one of my flower pics 😆 Needless to say, my delicate dermis is not pleased at my being appropriated as a snack - it's been a while since I've had this many welts from insect bites.

After getting back to the car, we made our way leisurely back towards the valley by making some additional stops on the way back out starting with a brief visit to Riggs Flat Lake before heading over to Soldier Creek Campground for a quick wander along the Grant Goudy Trail to have a look at the Ice Cave(s). Exploring the "caves" would have been made easier if we had remembered to grab our headlamps 🤦🏼‍♀️ - but we made do with the lights on our phones.

Wildlife: got buzzed by a hummingbird, saw some turkey vultures soaring overhead, plenty of butterflies, most of which refused to sit still for portraits, and a number of fast lizards (also uncooperative for photos)

Other Hikers: None!

It was certainly nice to get out to get a hike in and enjoy the views. Thanks for the company, Jason!
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With the heat, I hadn't hiked in a couple of weeks, so S and I headed south to the Mt. Graham area on Sunday. The first stop was to hike a portion of the Clark Peak Trail. Hiked a couple of miles to where it drops into a fern meadow. Decided to stop there as the next section was a 1,100-foot descent down to Taylor Pass, and we did not feel like dropping down just to climb back up again. Had lunch there in the shade and started back. The way back was a hot grind uphill, especially the initial portion without any cover. The heat and higher elevation took a toll, causing me to overheat and get lightheaded, so I had to cool off in the shade for a bit before making it back to the TH. Made it back to the car and with the AC cranked, felt much better. We made a quick stop at Riggs Flat Lake before stopping at the Soldier Creek Campground for a quick hike down to the Ice Caves. Besides the slight case of heat exhaustion, it was good to get back out to the Pinalenos.Thanks S, for joining me for the long drive. :)
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Riggs - Clark - Cunningham - Webb - Ice Cave, AZ 
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day two in the pinalenos
coffee and breakfast, then we drove up to riggs lake
bruce had a loop that took off from the west side of riggs flat lake, then some off trail and forest service roads to clark peak trail
a little brushy but not the locust fest we were warned about
decent views from the peak
returned to the east side of the lake via forest service roads
next up was cunningham loop
we started off counterclockwise on the loop, which was along an old roadbed
at two miles, we found that the connection with the southeast loop was pretty much obliterated
one climb to a higher roadbed as we finished the western portion of the loop
nice hike with good views below
lots of slash piles, some right on the trail
had plenty of time to do the webb peak loop
the tower is still there, but just the steel framework remains of the lookout
finished via the road
a stop at the visitor center, then hung out at camp for awhile
late afternoon trip to try and find the ice caves
we found one that john and i had been to eight years ago, then scrambled around the hillside looking for more
noticed i no longer had my phone in my pocket, which was a bit stressful
bruce was able to call my phone, and we could hear it as i retraced the route i had taken
found it sitting on top of a boulder, thank goodness
backpacker meals for dinner and another fire made for a nice evening
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Riggs - Clark - Cunningham - Webb - Ice Cave, AZ 
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Riggs Lakeshore Trail #340

We started our day around 7:30 a.m. at Riggs Lake. It was my first time there, and it’s a pretty little lake. There were a few fishermen and kids wandering from their campsites, beginning to stir for the day. Heading clockwise, we followed a use trail to a two-track road and ultimately reached the Clarke Peak Trailhead.

Clark Peak

John's girlfriend Denise at the Columbine Visitor Center had warned us that this trail was terribly overgrown with locust trees and not worth hiking. However, we weren’t in the listening mood and decided to give it a try anyway. The rumors of locusts were highly exaggerated. John and Kelly both hiked in shorts and short sleeves with little to no bloodshed. The trail is tight in spots, and there are multiple paths heading up the mountain. This is a worthwhile trail to explore when in the Riggs Lake area.

CP Flat Loop

This loop is located entirely on the far western section of the Swift Trail and 4x4 road. It’s mainly wooded, with some impressive views along the Swift.

Cunningham Loop Trail #316

Next up was the official loop found here. Starting from the Cunningham Campground parking lot, we made our way around counterclockwise to the intersection with the "Lower" portion of the loop. Evidence of the fire was abundant, but not everything had been torched. A significant amount of work has been done to open this portion of the loop. There are literally hundreds of slash piles stacked along sections of the trail. At about the 2-mile mark, we reached the intersection with the "Lower" Trail. Things changed quickly; this section is a warzone. We aborted our attempt there and opted to complete just the "Upper" portion. Later, while talking with a volunteer at the visitor center, we learned that the lower portion was severely damaged by the Frye Fire and may never be rebuilt.

Webb Peak Loop via Columbine TH

Since we had some extra time, we decided to do this loop. Starting from the Columbine Trailhead, we headed uphill through the burn area and the now 2-foot tall aspen. The fire tower still stands but is charred. We continued down the lookout road and back to the parking area, where John made another new friend. He thought he’d have her eating out of his hand with his sweet-talking, but she had no part of it.

Ice Cave

We returned to camp for a bit, had some lunch, relaxed, and then set out in search of the "Ice Cave."

It was just a short walk from our campsite. Kelly had a waypoint, and I had a waypoint from an online search, so we wandered about looking for other possibilities. We found three potential sites.

The first was easy to find, just about 50 feet into the mountain, but I didn't think it was the right one.

The second one, John descended into a bit before the bats chased him out. This cave dropped straight down pretty steeply, and I ultimately believe this is the one we were looking for.

The third cave was a bit more adventurous to reach. Kelly, John, and I took two different routes through the boulder fields, searching for possibilities. I found one that you could enter, which contained at least one large room measuring approximately 20 by 20 feet.

While Kelly was making her way over to us through the mass of boulders, we heard a “Oh Schmidt!” (or something like that). She’d lost her phone somewhere, and it could have been anywhere, including 50 feet straight down among the boulders. John tried calling it, but we heard nothing. We all worked our way back to where she’d come from. I tried calling it, and BINGO—we heard it! She was lucky to find it sitting right on top of a rock.
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Day two n the Pinalenos. Drove to Riggs Lake to get started. Hiked around the lake then up to Clark Peak. Nice hiking and views.
We then drove to do the Cunningham Loop. We didn't realize a big chunk had gone unmaintained since the fire. We took the path of least resistance and completed a nice loop anyway.
Next up was Webb Peak. Finally, after hanging out in camp a few hours, we headed out to the infamous ice caves. We found a few caves, lost a phone for a bit, and made it back in one piece. Big day! :)
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Great solid hike that Chumley put together and was the main hike of the weekend. As a bonus we were able to start from the camp area heading down Goudy Ridge. On the top there was a small cave that we checked out and then the long descent down the ridge. Great views on Goudy Ridge and decent trail except for the thick grass in some sections.

Eventually it drops off the ridge and into Grant Creek where we linked up with that trail. Took a short break at the junction and enjoyed some good strong flow in Grant Creek. Tons of water running presumably due to good monsoon season rains. After lunch we hiked up the trail/road to the next objective Grant Creek Falls.

The falls trail forks off the main trail about a mile to base of Grant Creek Falls. Very impressive falls and with all the rain I'm assuming it was well above average flow. Took another break before hiking back to the main trail.

Continuing up Grant Creek the trail eventually leaves the drainage and switchbacks up the ridge. Despite some fire damage the switchbacks were well maintained and easy to follow. That made the 2000 foot climb much easier than it could have been. It didn't take long before we reached the ridgeline and the eventual trailhead and road.

Unfortunately our vehicle was 3 miles back at camp but Chumley used his social skills and managed to hitch a ridge back to camp. John and I didn't have to wait long before Chumley showed up. Great loop hike!
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With a weekend full of options, this was my first choice as I had not previously been on either the Goudy Ridge or Grant Creek trails. A couple of recent reports on Goudy Ridge reflected post-fire trail work had been complete. On the other hand, the report of the death of Grant Creek 305 has been greatly exaggerated. In reality, it is as nice as Goudy Ridge and probably rehabbed by the same crew that did Goudy in mid-2021 sometime. In any case, both trails have been rehabbed post fire and are in fine shape for the limited use each probably sees.

One hiccup we had on the loop came in the lower sections of Goudy 310 where summer monsoon rains have spurred grass that has grown to about knee high. We missed one switchback in the 6800-6400 stretch but it took about 20 seconds to realize it and get back on the nicely cut tread. Grass persisted all the way to the creek, but even a marginally attentive hiker should not get off track.

Grant was flowing nicely and we followed the old road upstream. Post-fire flood damage is evident and looks like the trail has been relocated above a couple of eroded banks. At the arrow-signed fork (which mysteriously points only one way) we headed up to check out the falls which were flowing nicely. For hikers who start at the bottom, this appears to be the primary destination and the trail is nicely maintained and easy to follow. After a break at the falls we headed back to the fork and continued upstream trying to avoid as much poison ivy as possible. It's not too bad, but I gave up trying to avoid it and resigned myself to a thorough scrubbing when we got back to camp.

We took a final break where the trail crosses Post Creek just before it begins the solid climb back up to Cunningham. The fire burned through here but there was still plenty of unburned tree cover and well-cleared trail. Every switchback has a nice rock border built so even if aggressive growth occurs in the next few years, the tread should be easy to spot. As it is currently, it's just a solid 2000 foot climb in 3 miles that we managed to knock off in about 90 minutes.

The second hiccup of the day occured at the very top of the trail where it cuts through a severely burned matchstick zone. Here the tread is fully lost to grass and deadfall that doesn't appear to have been cut. This lasts for less than a quarter mile from the 8800 foot contour up about 100 feet, but it's easy enough to just make your way to the ridge and find the route again.

From here I took off ahead of the others, crossed Moonshine Creek and climbed up to the road. Not excited about the 3 mile road walk back to camp, I flashed some calves to flag down the first truck I saw, and Cletus'd my way into the bed for an easy ride back to camp where I promptly hopped in my truck and headed back to pick up John and Karl.

This was a great loop with awesome scenery, caves, waterfalls, wildflowers, perfect weather, clouds, breezes, distant views, etc. And definitely a solid workout. I'm glad that the fire didn't affect this drainage more severely. It's a winner.

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Weekend on Mt Graham camp and little hike. Saturday night we camped at Soldiers Creek and decided it was too cold with the wind at 9400' of elevation. Sunday morning we dropped down to the Arcadia CG 6800' of elevation for perfect weather.

The Grant-Goudy trail was in excellent condition after obvious recent trail maintenance.
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Grant Goudy Ridge trail looked like one of the more interesting trails in the Pinalenos and it has recently been cleared, so I wanted to hike from the bottom to the Swift trail, and back. It was an enjoyable hike.

The trail is currently in what is probably the best shape that it has been in years, though grass will probably start to grow back in this summer with rains. If the trail get very little use in the lower elevations, which is also where the grass is, it could begin to disappear again. That said, unless hiking this in the next few weeks before the real heat comes in, I would wait until cooler weather in the fall, or start early. I am not a 5 AM at the trailhead guy.

Much to my surprise, I was able to drive FR 157, which now leaves from the curve on SPUR 266 just before Fort Grant, all the way to the Junction with trail #310. The lower and middle sections of FR 157 are a little eroded but my Outback handled them just fine. A Honda civic would not. There has been recent work in the upper section, and I was able to drive to where it appears Lee did as well, in 2014, so I edited his route to reflect mine and harvested the stats. There were only a few rougher sections, but clearance and AWD/4WD will get you through those. Obviously, this can change with summer rains, and the work appeared to have been done after some really big wash outs over the last few years. The improvements were excellent, and I had no issues at the creek crossing, or anywhere else up higher.

I may have parked exactly where Lee did in 2014. If not, then I parked under a cypress next to Grant Creek expecting to have some road hiking ahead, and not realizing that I was basically at the trailhead. I parked where I did because I was getting tired of driving, and was well past the USFS gate. Finding the trail junction marked by a post, but no sign, as quickly as I did, was a surprise. From there it was enjoyable hiking all the way to Soldier Creek Campground, which now charges $20 a night, and a little beyond to the Swift Trail. Lots of outstanding view for the length of this hike.

Again, the trail condition is excellent at present, probably as good as it gets over here. Not a lot of evidence of people hiking this, but deer and bear tracks were present in the middle elevations. A wet summer could bury the trail in grass before September, but thanks to the work it should still be possible to determine the path.

While I did this as a day hike, I wished I had packed camping gear as I had a great location to camp. I could have cleaned up in Grant Creek which is flowing nicely and has some pools, and there are a good number of birds in the riparian area, which is always nice. However, while driving back to Wilcox and in the agricultural area I was gazing over at the brown rolling hills on the west side of the valley thinking to myself how much this area reminds me of Idaho. Not 2 seconds later I spotted 3 pronghorn grazing on the side of the road. Probably would have missed them if I camped.
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Hiked down from Soldier Creek Campground 2.65 miles down and back up. That's only 1370 of it's 3900 vertical feet. The Fort Grant Prison crew in late summer 2021 logged/brushed/re benched the entirety of this trail. Best condition it's been in since the Frye Fire. Saw some good lingering fall color especially at the campground. Recommend getting out there and checking it from the bottom before it gets too hot. This as all other Mt Graham trails can use foot traffic to keep them from getting overgrown too quickly again.
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Met up with Chad bright and early after another all-nighter working at the telescope on Mount Graham, and we started up the Swift Trail. The focus of the day was to tour the Pinalenos and see first hand the effects of the Frye Fire of June 2017. Our first stop of the day was at a small canyon that I had passed so many times without ever stopping to explore it. This little hidden gem was loaded with changing maples and flowing water.

As we passed the top end of the Shake Trail, we entered into the main burn area of the Frye Fire. Pitchfork Canyon looked like it had been skewered by the Devil’s flaming pitchfork. A mountain side of black sticks where a lush stand of mature firs had once provided dense shade. The Arrow Tree still stood.

Stop 2 was at Snow Flat. Most of this area had fared well, with the exception being the back road to Treasure Park (Treasure Park via Snow Flat hike is charcoal city). Hospital Flat had some damage but is still beautiful, I think.

Stop 3 was Grant Hill Trailhead. Grant Hill was almost entirely consumed in a crown fire. Hopefully aspens will thrive here in the coming decades, but it looks pretty bad right now, and the trail loops on it are closed for the foreseeable future. We talked with the Squirrel Girl here, and heard the latest Red Squirrel census, which was pretty grim (35 found during the post-fire count, I heard).

The Grant Creek area didn’t look too bad, with only moderate fire damage, as we approached Stop 4: Cunningham Campground, next to the western trailhead of the Cunningham Loop. We talked with some
Forest Service employees briefly, and checked out the the Grant Creek Trailhead before continuing on. The Moonshine Creek area fared well, with fall aspens and ferns adding some color.

The Fort Grant overlook revealed Grant Creek Canyon to have a mosaic burn pattern, with plenty of green forest left intact.

Approaching Columbine through the singed spruce-fir, we turned down Bible Camp Road toward the Deadman-Highline Trailhead. Bible Camp Road had seen mosaic burn, and while there was heavy damage in places, there were some patches of surviving spruce-fir. I knew that much of Deadman had been thoroughly torched, but I had hope that my trail sign might have survived. As we rounded the first corner of Deadman, there was the trail sign I had made in 2010, perfectly undamaged among burned logs. I couldn’t believe it, and it was one of the few sights that day that made me smile. I unbolted my soot-covered creation to bring it home, as Deadman-Highline, my favorite Pinaleno trail, will probably not ever reopen.

The next stop was one Chad and I were both apprehensive over: Columbine Corral/Ash Creek Trailhead. We had heard that Ash Creek and Webb Peak were severely burned and a sea of black sticks. Sadly, that was true. The jewel of the Pinalenos was completely devoid of green, save for some small aspen and raspberry sprouts in places. Heartbreaking. On to the next spot...

Soldier Creek Campground looked great, just like old times.

As we drove toward Chesley Flat across the black skeleton slopes of Webb Peak, we wondered if any of the top was untouched by this mega-fire. Fire damage beyond Chesley Flat was less severe, and finally ceased at the turnoff for Riggs Lake. There is some ground fire evidence on the east side of Riggs, but very minor. We walked around the lake on the Lakeshore Trail, finally able to see a healthy, familiar favorite.

We continued down the last mile plus of the Swift Trail through the unburned forests of old, to the Clark Peak Trailhead, where we started the CP Flat Loop hike. The west end of the Pinalenos was deserted and we enjoyed a great hike through the aspens and mixed conifer woodland.
The rugged cliffs of Grandview Peak above Hell’s Hole looked amazing with a small strip of golden aspens clinging precariously.

Making our way home, I pulled over at Chesley Flat to check out the upper end of the Blair Canyon Trail and the old “spooky woods” area. This area was on the edge of the Webb Peak inferno and sustained heavy but not total damage. Still some survivor trees, including the tumor tree, and the ancient Blair Canyon Trail sign.

We continued back down the mountain, discussing our findings and thoughts on the matter, and made one final stop at the upper Shake Trailhead to see trees caked in red retardant from the fire.

Back on the straightaway at the base of the Pinalenos, Chad headed for home, and I grabbed a sandwich at Mount Graham Market for dinner on the road to home.

A few observations, which are totally my opinion...
Most of the burn area, which includes the majority of the top of the Pinalenos, appeared to me to have about 50% tree mortality. Of that 50%, a large portion of these trees were covered in dead needles with no sign of green (heat scorched trees, rather than burn, maybe?). The most severe burn areas appeared to be Pitchfork Canyon, Grant Hill, Ash Creek, and Webb Peak. The least severe/most green areas appeared to be Snow Flat, the area north of Hospital Flat, and Grant Creek watershed. The top of Graham Ridge between Shannon Campground and the summit of Mount Graham was severely burned, with almost total tree mortality. Severe erosion scarred most of the drainages and creeks on top. I won’t discuss my personal feelings here, other than to say the burn was worse than I had feared. I still love the Pinalenos, and always will, but they sure do look rough right now. I might post a photo set.

Chad, thanks for another great adventure! Much better to see sights like this with a like-minded friend.
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My final trip up to the top of Graham to survey the damage left from the Frye Fire before the November 15th winter closure. I met up with Preston and together we headed up the mountain as we have done so many times before. Plan was to survey as many sites as we could and also get in a hike at the end of the Swift Trail. We drove the entire road to it's end and this is what we saw & know .....

We first stopped on the way up for a quick trek up "secret canyon" for some fall colors, looked good and is only gonna get better. A return trip up will be made soon.
Second stop up was made at Ladybug Saddle to show Preston where & how I dislocated my shoulder last week, I was in need of some sympathy.
Then around to the backside/top and into the burn -

Snow Flat - Road down to the CG hit with med intensity burn, campground unaffected and beautiful.
Treasure Park CG - Road down med burn, meadow and CG mostly unaffected and beautiful, the "back" CG hit hard and now gated with "forest closed" sign.
Cunningham CG - Intact, but high burn all around CG. The trail-head for Grant Creek & Moonshine has "closed forest" sign. We could see golden aspens down in Moonshine and a later overlook view showed that lower Grant Creek from Ft Grant TH was unaffected, the upper trail has burned. At Cunningham we talked with a high up Forest Service employee who gave up permission to hike a bit into Ash Creek for a look a little further up the road.
Soldier Creek CG - One of my favorites and I was very happy to see an intact CG with minimal burn around it. The Grant Goudy Ridge (and Ice Caves) TH is open with the standard "caution burn area" sign.
Deadman-Highline Trail - The feel good story of the day! We drove down Bible Camp road to see if the trail-head sign that Preston made and posted back in 2010 made it through the fire. We hiked a bit up the trail through a hard hit area to find burn all-around the perfectly intact sign! It damn near brought a manly tear to my eye to see Preston's joy that it made it through -
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Columbine Corrals CG - From the happiest part of the day to the saddest. We parked at Columbine visitor center and hiked in across the road to the corrals. This whole area is closed including Webb Peak & Ash Creek due to high intensity burn. As stated earlier we had permission to hike a bit in. We took the trail just to where the switchbacks start down and that's about as far as you can go. Of all my trips up since the re-opening, this one punched me in the chest the hardest. I just could not believe I was looking down Ash Creek Canyon ..... black sticks as far as I could see down and on both sides of the canyon. We were told by Forest Service earlier at Cunningham that a decision was made to close and not work on Ash Creek & Frye Mesa Trail (where the fire started) for at least the next 3 years. Webb Peak is also black sticks, but was told that a loop may be re-opened next year.
Riggs Flat Lake - After Ash Creek we continued down the road through much more burn until finally reaching Riggs where the west end of the fire came to an end. We drove down to the lake that does have some minimal burn down, then through the campgrounds & ended with a nice hike around the lake on the Lakeshore Trail. Riggs Lake area for the most part was unaffected by the fire. Merrill Peak was hit on top and I'm sure the backside was too. There is a "burn" sign posted for the Jesus Babcock Trail behind the campground.
CP Flat - Finally on to the end of the road to hike CP Flat. A very needed break from fire damage with an autumn walk through Letty's Grove. I knew we were late for the golden aspen leaves up high, but just as beautiful hiking on the golden leaf road!
Blair Canyon - On the drive back out we stopped at Chesley Flat to see how Blair Canyon fared and as expected ..... not well. High burn and I'm sure Chesley Flat to Webb Peak looks the same.
Quick last stop at the Shake Trail to show Preston the red slurry covered trees at the start of the trail, this entire trail survived and is one of the very few left unaffected.

Our trip ended on the straightaway where Preston dropped me off at my truck, we said our good-bye's & I drove home still processing what I saw on top.

I have now seen the entire top of Graham and have a good understanding to the condition of the majority of the forest & trails. As stated in other logs - I am still shook, bitter & angry over this fire. The damage is much worse then I ever expected. There is still a lot of green up there and I have found a few places that still holds some un-burned beauty that will keep me looking for more. I have spent my entire life going up that mountain and this will take many years to come to peace with ..... I just hope someday I will get there.
I understand that most don't want to read about others personal hardships as I honestly don't like reading them myself. What has happened has happened and I cannot change it only move on - This will be my last log about the Frye Fire of 2017!

To close I just want to thank Preston for taking me up the mountain to view the destruction with me. Seeing it with a good friend made it more bearable. There will be many more great trips up & around Ole' Graham my friend!!!
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Aug 16 2016
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Webb Peak Trail #345Tucson, AZ
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SkyIslander18Triplogs 2,607
Hiking8.00 Miles 1,485 AEG
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](*,) After an extensive search of vehicles, camping gear & home, it was determined that an item was left somewhere in the middle of the Chesley Flat Trail from our hike one week earlier ](*,)

We headed back up the mountain this morning to search by re-hiking the route starting with the Webb Peak Trail :next: Chesley Flat Trail :next: Swift Trail :next: Grant Goudy Ridge :next: Ice Caves :next: Swift Trail.
We were unsuccessful in finding the item ..... :pk:
Oh well, what we did find was a fire lookout tower, meadows full of wildflowers, raspberries, cool cave to explore, a heavy flowing waterfall, hawks & vultures in the sky, white-tail doe & 4 Abert's squirrels on the ground and a whole lot of quiet, never saw another person or vehicle on the upper mountain all day!

Learned 2 things today -
#1 loosing stuff sucks!
#2 Hiking upper Graham in August ..... Primo!
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Jun 19 2016
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 phoenix, az
Webb Peak Ash Creek, AZ 
Webb Peak Ash Creek, AZ
 
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trekkin_geckoTriplogs 4,660
Hiking10.20 Miles 2,400 AEG
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second day in the pinalenos
up at first light, took our time for coffee and breakfast
decided to move camp to soldier creek
john had seen randy's [ photoset ] and thought it looked pretty nice
stopped at columbine in hopes of finding a map, but the visitor center wasn't open yet
threw up a tent at soldier creek campground, then went back to the ash creek trailhead for a hike
went up to webb peak first and were able to go up in the unoccupied/abandoned tower
very hazy sunday
back down to take the trail over to ash creek
rather than head right back to the trailhead, we went further along ash creek trail to the falls overlook
thought about going down to the bottom of the falls, but just made the little bypass loop and returned
nice to hike along flowing water
saw lots of sawmill remnants
ash creek trail goes through a cool slickrock area
the falls were impressive, and it would fun to get closer
after the hike, went back to columbine for a few minutes
lunch at camp, then i wanted to see riggs lake
wasn't really impressed - too crowded
walked around the lake just because while john took a snooze
back at camp, we had heard about a cave just off the grant goudy ridge trail, so we hiked out to a couple of overlooks, then started looking for the cave on the way back
found a smaller cave, and went in a few feet, until bats started flying at my flashlight
decided that wasn't it, and kept looking until we found it just to the east of and below the trail
climbed down about 20-25 feet, until going further looked more committing than we were up for
very cool air coming from it, and apparently one can go down 80 feet or more
mileage includes the riggs lake stroll and the cave search
my gps track is just for the webb peak ash creek hike
i have a track for the cave location, if anyone is interested
chatted with some of our neighbors, had dinner and another fire
breezier and cooler sunday night
soldier creek is a great place to camp
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Jun 19 2016
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Webb Peak Ash Creek, AZ 
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Day two in the Pinalenos. Lots of variety in views and terrain. Great hiking. See Kelly's triplog for details. :)
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Jun 05 2016
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 Tucson, AZ
Grant Goudy Ridge Trail #310Tucson, AZ
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Hiking1.14 Miles 208 AEG
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Joined some friends to escape the heat up in the Pinaleno Mountains for a couple days. I was the first to arrive Sunday morning, reaching Columbine about 1030. Drove on to Riggs Lake in a search for FOTG (had a tip he might be there) that came up empty. Then headed back to Soldier Creek CG and waited for the others to arrive. After getting set up, we did a late afternoon hike to a scenic viewpoint not too far from camp.
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Jul 23 2015
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Grant Creek Goudy Ridge Loop, AZ 
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Choices, choices, choices! Our plan for a mid week hike included the following options:

1. Cactus to clouds in Palm Springs
2. Shiva Temple at the Grand Canyon North Rim with Claude Birdseye added on
3. Grant Creek, Ash Creek, Goudy Ridge Loop in the Pinaleno Mountains

A bridge washout between here and California and a 14 hour round trip drive to the Grand Canyon north rim had us heading towards Fort Grant.

I have never done Grant Creek nor the Goudy Ridge Trails so this was a real treat. Heading up Grant Creek Trail was the best part of this hike for me. Super lush and water flowing next to the trail the whole way up.

Threats of rain and dark skies above had us questioning if the Ash Creek add on was a good idea? I said let's flip on it however neither of us had a coin. My American Express Card with it's head on the front stood in for George and the toss came up tails. This meant bypass Ash Creek this time. Both of us have been there prior so that made this pill a little easier to swallow.

The trek down the Goudy Trail is enjoyable and views open up along the way. Fort Grant off in the distance gets closer and closer as you descend. Along our way down the skies started to clear up and we only received a small sprinkle just prior to the finish line.

After the hike we headed south on Fort Grant Road to Willcox for a last meal at good ol' Salsa Fiesta. They are closing for good in three days after a run of over 17 years. I wish Jennifer and the Salsa Fiesta team much success in their future endeavors.
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Jul 23 2015
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Grant Creek Goudy Ridge Loop, AZ 
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jj said something to the effect last week, "you always wear that white high school shirt". I glanced over and mentioned, "you always wear that same soccer shirt with the seventies style stripes".

By chance? Both in bright new happy shirts we headed to the Grant Creek trailhead. Passing through Fort Grant ( prison, if you are not familiar ) we missed a turn. Spotted a guy that appeared eager to help, so we asked for directions. I think Mr Personality played a guard in Cool Hand Luke. His directions were spot on questionable. With a 50/50 chance we took the wrong option and drove by him a second time... with twice the pride.

10% chance of rain jumped to 50% unexpectedly overnight. Everything around us came up 70% so we stuck to the plan. From a makeshift parking space near the #310, we headed up towards #305, which is among my all time favorites. Not only a great trail, a trail I've shared with great friends over the years. Clear and present mosquitos annoyed a bit but never drew first blood.

jj went down in history transferring a track between two fenix watches out of a controlled lab environment via bluetooth. It only took 40 minutes and five or six tries...lol

#305 has not changed over the eight years I've hiked it a few times. A good trail with very minor brush nuisance along the way and easy to follow. Per usual we used Preston's short cut across Moonshine Creek, which is a tiny off trail segment to save a little road walk. We were soaked in sweat by the time we reached the Swift Hwy ( actually, more like thirty minutes into the hike ). The stroll along the tree lined hwy at 70 degrees was relaxing therapy. It was cool to see a couple families checking out the Post Creek waterfalls & Soldier Campgrounds.

Storms looked mean and approaching quick. jj flipped an amex card to decide on cutting Ash Creek waterfall overlook out of our loop. My hands were getting cold so I was glad it landed on "forget it" tails.

#310 offers great views. It didn't seem as overgrown as memory served. Just a little grassy in areas. No screams in the shower and a quick shin check reveals no abuse. Next time I think it would be ideal to ascend this and enjoy the pine stroll down #305.

Carried 4 quarts, consumed 1.5. Shockingly still a bit frozen 17 hours after packing in the morning too.
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western wallflowers, yellow droopy asterthingys up top, a red species new to me that I'll have to look at the photos to determine
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May 03 2015
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Grant Goudy Ridge Trail #310Tucson, AZ
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With my overnight shift at the MGIO over, the crew dropped me off at my truck at Moonshine at dawn. My body craved sleep, my mind craved adventure. Sleep won. I set up my tent at the Deadman-Highline trailhead and caught a few brief hours of sleep.

I awoke later that morning, ate some cereal out of half of a Gatorade bottle like a hobo, and then walked up the Deadman-Highline trail a short distance to reinstall my freshly painted trail sign that I had made years ago. Years of weathering had left their mark by the time I had taken it down last October.

With very little time to explore or hike, I settled on a short excursion down the Grant-Goudy Ridge Trail. I hiked down the trail to the edge of the mountain, reveling in Pinaleno glory and reflecting fondly on my Safford years.

I came across the highest elevation cactus I have ever seen, growing at 9200'. Made a side trip to the fault line abyss before heading back down the mountain to catch the Tucson folk festival. An exhausting but amazing weekend.
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Apr 18 2015
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Webb Peak from Ash Creek THTucson, AZ
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Hiking21.49 Miles 5,337 AEG
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I don't know why it took me over a year to get back to Mount Graham because I really like this area. I did a Grant Creek Goudy Ridge loop today with side trips down Moonshine Creek and up Webb Peak.

I was passed going up Grant Creek Trail by three trail runners :o A good portion of Moonshine is torn up from a tree trimming project, however, I was able to get to the falls area and found it to be a nice little side trip. I saw a few cars during the road walk from Grant to Goudy, but no other hikers or runners the rest of the day. With Graham being illegal I settled for Webb. It was nice to hit 10,000 feet after starting the day at 5400. I considered "Chestley" Flats on my way down from Webb, but had to keep Cup and mind and just decided to head for the Xterra.

The upper sections of Goudy Ridge Trail are nice, with the gigantic pines and old forest feel, but I think the trail loses its redeeming qualities the lower you go. It is a relentless downhill and the trail is in disrepair in spots, however, it gets you down the mountain pretty quick, with some pretty good views.

Another great trip to Graham. I hope to make it back soon; its a great area with several more trails I want to hike. I just wish it was not so far away.
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