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The I-17 Flex Lanes are in operation. :y:

Since Bruce hadn't been higher than 76 feet ASL in over a month, and certainly hadn't ascended more than that, I dialed back a 5k+ day plan to something that might ease beachboy into the mountains. The best laid plans ... blah blah blah ... I had forgotten that Coconino NF closes some roads near Flagstaff during stage 2 fire restrictions. People can still recreate wherever they want, because people don't pose a potential fire danger. But motor vehicles are prohibited from some dirt roads, because vehicles apparently do risky things that people do not do when not in the proximity of their vehicles. I would argue that this wouldn't stand up in court, or make any sense, except I think it may be factual that people in the proximity of their vehicles cause more fires than people not near vehicles. :-k

So, anyway, we quickly pulled up some HAZ maps and came up with other options that might justify the drive and wouldn't be a holiday weekend clusterflock. I offered up a 10mi/2kft option kicking the O'leary lantern, but ptown thought doubling it would be more fun. I have no immediate objections until I complain later. :)

I don't usually drive two hours to hike another town's version of Camelback, and apparently it's been a decade since I did this last (and first/only!).

It took about 6 miles to get up the hill, way more than I was planning. There's some interesting trail routing down below which seems to attempt to maximize mileage over efficiency, a theme we would later learn is common here. Heart is exposed, but it was a nice day so a little sun wasn't awful.

Sunset hits the burn area pretty quickly, but is still enjoyable and scenic. It has a couple of new switchbacks climbing out of the Down Under junction west of Little Elden.

Brookbank has new tread north of peak 8819 and takes a much wider loop north of 8747 and downhill west of there. We took an "offtrail" shortcut down the drainage between 8747 and 8819 (there was a nice old cut to follow) that saved about 4.5 miles off the new official Brookbank route.

From here, we discovered that Upper Oldham has been decommissioned from top to bottom. The first part follows a cut that used to be called Middle Oldham, and the rest of it is all new trail (there are apparently no longer lower, middle, or upper versions; just one complete Oldham). Formerly 2 miles, the route is now nearly doubled at 3.7 miles. Previously this was a steep trail. Now, the switchbacks are so plentiful and mild that they are ideal for ebike riders with dead batteries. Going uphill it was tolerable. Going downhill you'd lose your mind.

I'm not trained in trail building, but I'm naturally gifted in complaining about what clearly doesn't meet the quality of all those old skool CCC trails we have all become so accustomed to. This new trail cut makes a horrible attempt at a consistent grade, with numerous 10-15 foot stretches of staircase-type grade, followed immediately by a short flat or drop. There is no way to establish or maintain a comfortable hiking pace. It's probably a whole lot of fun whoopdeedoo on a bike though. And maybe that was the point?

Finally back up top, we took south Sunset up toward the summit before cutting across to the descent via Lookout. Bruce bitched more than my last 5 paragraphs, but I sort of enjoyed this stretch. Afternoon shade, cool temps, and a nicely worn path took us down quite efficiently. A refreshing change in trail design!

We took the north route on Fatman and missed a turn. Did a short XC before piecing together about 12 different unofficial user routes along the foothill slopes back to the truck. Almost certainly created by mountain bikers, these were somehow naturally created without unnecessary switchbacks. Weird.

Good to see 1-800 back out west. It was an enjoyable holiday weekend with a refreshing Sunday swimming in the back seat. ;) Whining aside, it was a great day, and I'd do it again!
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Fresh off vacation on the East Coast, I got an invite from Chums to escape to cooler country in Flagstaff. For various reasons, I'd had hikes with nothing but minimal mileage, elevation gain, or actual elevation for over a month. So, when he threw out a hike with 5,200+ feet of gain, I politely poo-pooed the invite. He came back with a more reasonable 11-mile, 3,200-foot gain hike, and I was in.

The plan was to drive into Friedlein Prairie to cut a bit more mileage off, but we quickly found a locked gate. So, back to the original idea to start at Schultz Tank, only to find another locked gate. Later searching showed that these areas close during the current Stage 2 fire restrictions. On to Plan C.

Neither of us are fans of the trail leaving the Elden Trailhead to the tower, so we headed over to the less busy Sandy Seep Trailhead, with plans to start up the Heart Trail and wing it from there. The burn is still quite evident up here, but you still get sections of unburned forest. We fashioned a loop, mostly of things I'd done before. On Brookbank #2, we smartly off-trailed and short-cutted Hill 8747 to save some mileage. It worked out. We were now starting our climb back up. The Oldham Trail has been completely rerouted going back uphill. It only touches the old trail in a couple of spots. Chums thought there were too many switchbacks. Me, being just a few years older, found them to be appropriate.

We bypassed the Elden Tower and hiked through the aspen thickness of the Sunset Trail to the Elden Lookout Trail. For me, this trail makes tired legs even more tired with all the rocks to negotiate.

Reaching the Fatman's Loop, we made the decision to go cross-country/follow use trails to get our way back to the start.

So much for taking it easy. Temperatures were mostly nice all day, especially in the shade or when the wind decided to blow. Thanks for driving, Chums. Good catching up.
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Starting at Oldham Trailhead on Mount Elden Lookout Road I hiked up the road to Upper Oldham Trail, and followed the old and now abandoned original route up to Oldham Park. Upper Oldham Trail has been rebuilt into a gently sloping mountain bike route now, which I suspect adds significant length when compared to the original route. I prefer shorter and steeper myself.

From Oldham Park I hiked the lookout road to the summit of Mount Elden, noting only a single surviving tree planting from 2022’s effort among the seedling shelter tubes. Brilliant sunset on the hike back down, contrasting nicely with the snow and bare aspens. Walking through mixed conifer on the snowy road was absolutely beautiful and very enjoyable. Yaktrax on my boots made the hike down Upper Oldham’s snow covered route much more pleasant.
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Evening hike from Mount Elden Road 7500 foot trailhead (where road is gated). Parked my rental car, and started walking up Mount Elden Road. Turned onto Upper Oldham Trail, recalling fondly the old ham sandwich I’d seen in the dirt at the trailhead the last time, and how fitting it was. Rejoined the road at Oldham Park, enjoyed the views off the east side of the mountain, and then went off trail up to summit of peak 9058’ above Sunset Park. Amazing sunset on top. Followed Mount Elden Road all the way back in the fading light. A good bit of aspen growth coming back in the Museum Fire scar along the road. Very enjoyable hike, I do enjoy the plentiful hike options in the Dry Lake Hills system. Camped that night on the road to Ashurst Lake.
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Sandy Seep Trail #129
Bruce switched out the grind up Elden Lookout Trail #4 I enjoy. This is a great alternative for those seeking a more casual approach to the Elden network.

Little Elden Trail #69
Intended to just hike the lower 0.85mi of this trail. 0.72 mi up it has been rerouted by the AZT thousand mile club. The former arduous 0.13mi/44ft heave is now a 0.5mi/44ft stroll around a pimple knoll.

Heart Trail #103
This trail has received a rare nice reroute. Two or three scenic settings stopped us momentarily to admire. We cached water bottles 1.9mi up in anticipation of taking the old shorter route down.

Sunset Trail #23
We took a short break at the junction and then headed up. Albeit torched in this center section of #23, the pines are back in business in under a half mile up. Passing Little Bear Trail #112 I rejoiced not having to go through the mental agony of its ridiculously long switchbacks.

Brookbank Trail #2
Heading down after lunch involved intense rough terrain. They've done a lot of work but there are a lot of fallen trees. The side limbs have been kindly removed in one spot on each to crawl over. Overall, I still enjoy the trail.
Bruce occasionally thinks to check the pine fragrance. Not sure about vanilla/Strawberry/whatever this round. It was a distinct flashback to Dad and I stopping in Flagstaff in '86 moving to Arizona. Stepping outta my Scirocco was the same impact pine fragrance, haven't noticed that in the last 37 years. It was 118° when we rolled into Phx, so at least that hasn't changed.

Upper Oldham Trail
Midway up it seemed like a remarkable pine environment. Pine shade ended and whining set sail.

Down n Out
The joy of the hike was over. Casual ascents make for draggy descents. The area is vivid green, with lots of medium-sized oaks. Nobody goes to Flag for oak foliage but there must be a nice hue when they turn.

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Android updated the default voice RS utilizes. Compound words and two words often had a raised pitch on the second part. Bruce puts waypoints in the follow-route for junctions. Sunset HEART and such were comical.

While I prefer steeper grades, this only got draggy a couple of times. It was a great hike to comfortably knock out ~20mi in July.
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Off to Flag to get into some cooler air. There was a 60% chance of T-Storms, but we were fortunate to miss the brunt of the storms. The first wave passed to our east, giving us a few sprinkles. The second two waves passed to our west, giving us some light rain for about half an hour or so.

From the Sandy Seep TH, we were one of just a handful of cars - a better, much less crowded option than the nearby Eldon TH.

I wanted to hike the complete reroute of the Heart #103 trail. The reroute is 1.5 miles longer, but the trail is much smoother, has an easier grade, and takes you through some more interesting areas. Me likey.

At the intersection of the Heart Trail and Sunset Trails, and after Joe was done with his distraction, we took a short break and continued counterclockwise (CCW) through the mixed burned and old growth conifers. In here, I spotted a large Whitetail buck, still in velvet.

On the Brookbank #2 Trail, we followed the well-worn path and either missed our turn or the trail has been rerouted. This is just one of a number of trails up here that have been rerouted since the fire. The section from Dry Lake Hills down to Eldon Lookout Road is an absolute nightmare. They may have given up on this section.

We did the road walk to The Upper Oldham Trail and noticed that they've cut in a new Oldham Trail (Middle Oldham) to the north of the road. It meets up with Upper Oldham.

Upper Oldham is in decent shape. There have been numerous washout events, so you need to keep your eyes peeled for the trail vs. wash areas. There are currently a dozen or so deadfalls that you can pretty easily bypass. This climb always sucks the air from your lungs.

Up top, we caught a great breeze to dry off and have a snack. From here, we cruised back to the TH, enjoying the downhill and checking out the old cut of the Heart Trail.

Temps ranged from 74 at the start to 86 at one point, and down to 61.5 during a couple of the rain events. Clouds kept it comfortable most of the day.

Great to get your head out of the oven every now and then.
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Mostly hiking with a bit of bike ride at the bottom. Storm winds were becoming hideous higher up so I turned around near the top of Upper Oldham and came back down. Checked out an unmarked side trail I hadn’t seen before on the way down, appeared to be a mountain bike stunt trail. Lots of mountain bikers riding the Elden Lookout Road.
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After work hike. Started at the new trailhead/gate on Elden Lookout Road at 7500 feet. Went up the canyon using the lookout road, and then turned onto Upper Oldham Trail. Lots of flood damage on the bottom quarter mile of Upper Oldham. Not hard to follow though, and a good workout as always. At the top I walked Sunset Trail and the lookout road up to the summit of Mount Elden. Lots of pink traffic cone-like things protecting newly planted baby fir trees along Sunset Trail, made me happy to see that. Sunset on Elden was a beautiful sight featuring every color of the rainbow. Stood under the fire tower for a moment in the chilly winds and golden light and then made my retreat. Finished well after dark.
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Elden lookout road was closed so I got dropped off at the gate just off of Schultz Pass Road. Walked Elden lookout road up to the Upper Oldham trailhead. Monsoon 2021 had left some big rocky debris flows along the lower part of the trail but it was still navigable. Deadfall logs across the trail near the top had been recently cut. Turned north to follow Sunset Trail, where I encountered a few mountain bikers. Aside from a stretch of burn from the Museum Fire, Sunset was quite pretty. Lots of blue green fir trees contrasted nicely with bright gold Aspen leaves. Most trail junctions were well signed. Reached the north end of the trail and then turned west on Schultz Pass Road for a bit where my wife picked me up. A good afternoon outing.
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I have always wanted to circumnavigate the San Francisco Peaks and I finally got the chance with this event.

Long day out there with plenty of highs and lows to really make the most of it. It was a small, well run event and I had the experience I was hoping for. Beautiful weather and blazing aspen all over the place were the icing on the cake.

Michelle and Sierra surprised me and met me at the 20 mile aid station before the big climb up to the inner basin and that was probably the highlight of the day. The last 3.5 miles were in the dark.

What a day! :y:
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First time to the very cool Dry Lake Hills area, using the 9/24/16 route posted by @The_Eagle for navigation. Up ELT #4 then down Upper Oldham, which has some pretty severe erosion in places. Then out RR #153 and up Lost Burrito and Little Gnarly over to Shultz Tank, return via LET #69 and CTT #160. Green and wet. Two years after the Museum Fire things look pretty good considering, at least outside the high intensity zones.
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First time on this trail for me. Fittingly, an old ham sandwich lay in the dirt at the trailhead. Hiked up Upper Oldham Trail to the Elden lookout road and then followed Sunset Trail and the lookout road to the summit of Mount Elden. Came back down and walked the road to Devils Head summit. Returned the same way and finished by 10am before monsoons rolled in.
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Bruce had an unexpecting opening, so I checked quick feasible options. Temps of northern staple options were not looking great. The base of Elden 90, Weatherford 85, Kendrick & Sitgreaves 87, Wilson 105. The top of Mingus 88, Wilson & Casner 100. In the words of the famous Fraley... yikes. I pitched a nice Humphreys out-n-back via Weatherford with 67 temps in the upper stretch. The_give me heat or give me death_Eagle opted for whatever on Elden. I held back on suggesting Humphreys via Lookout Trail #4 and went with this seemingly sensible loop.

Due to wildfire smoke haze, we couldn't make out the iconic San Francisco Peaks until close to Flagstaff. It looked like the smoke ceiling was about 300 feet above Elden. We got a spot at the full TH as one left as we arrived.

The ascent up Elden is typically one of my favorite stretches of the loop. Not so much this round with temps that resembled Piestewa in May. Bruce requested a few mini-breaks heading up, so we didn't run out of sweat too quick.

Heading down the lookout road on the flipside was lined with incredibly fragrant Cliff Wood's Rose.

Noticed several isolated [ Yellow Columbine ] on Sunset Trail and some smaller species on Oldham. It seemed odd, scattered away from its typical perennial water source habitat.

Saw three [ Mule Deer ] along Oldham Trail #1. Then a large patch of [ Indian Paintbrush ] near Schultz Tank; old man eagle eye said he saw a few patches earlier too.

There is a fair amount of burn areas; most are mixed with healthy pines. The exception is a half-mile annihilated stretch north of Heart Trail #103.

We continued to see scattered Columbine. One species of wildflower seems to thrive each year. Two years ago, owl clover was everywhere. I would never have guessed Columbine to be widespread without a major water source, but it is lightly scattered for several miles.

The other oddity was the lack of hikers anywhere except the initial ascent up Elden, one group on Oldham, a family of three doing a Snowbowl-to-Elden shuttle run, and maybe two isolated hikers. The upper trails were 95+% mtn bike tracks, hiker footprints were rare. Wild savers pretending to be hikers were absent.

The hike eased into afternoon sprinkles and refreshing breezes!
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Headed high to get out of the smokin' hot heat and wandered into just smoke. It had settled around flag from the Backbone and probably the Slate fire. It cleared up quite a bit as the day went on.

We've done numerous versions of this hike in the past. The latest, last year after the Museum Fire.

Elden Lookout Trail climbs a steep 2500' in 3.5 miles. The upper half of this hike is better in the fall with the aspens. After passing the Lookout, we were on our way to the Sunset Trail. Here we passed numerous patches of sweet smelling Wood's Roses, that Joe thought were Cliff roses.

On Upper Oldham, we started getting into the burn area. The upside of the burn, is the views to the peaks. This trail drops down to Oldham #1 and then Brookbank #2

Brookbank Trail starts the climb and got a bit toasty. We got lucky and the clouds started rolling in as we hit Sunset Trail. A bit past the intersection with the Little Bear Trail, you start hitting the burn again. We were lucky enough to get about 45 minutes of light off and on rain.

We had the clouds for the rest of the hike, which made it more pleasanterest.

The hike down the Elden Lookout Trail is not a favorite. As steep as it is going up, it's tiresome with all the loose uneven rocks going down on tired legs.

I'll be back.
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A loop up trail #4, down the road to the Upper Oldham, and back to the #4 on #23, the Sunset Trail. Planned on a longer loop, but no way do I think that was feasible for me. Spent a lot of time just hanging out on the summit, too.

Aside from wanting to hike this, I checked out the logging on the road. I thought it looked decent. Lots of genetic junk being left as stock, but it's better than it was. Compare thinned to unthinned, and I think there is a dramatic improvement. Wait 10 years. I wish they would leave the best pines, but some of those get taken, too. I have a preference to take far more of the trees and regenerate the forest entirely, selecting for the best, and initiating the stands with lower stocking densities to create larger trees, but that will take 50 to 100 years.

I don't know the plan to remove the down material. Piles to burn, or broadcast? If they do piles, I hope there are some broadcast burns in the next 5 years, too.

Long term, this is a great step in the right direction. After the Schultz, Woody, Hardy, and a few others I have forgotten, I am sure, Flagstaff is purely lucky that what happened in California in the fires 2018 where towns burned, didn't happen here.

Oh, and it was very windy for this hike. For July, that seems unusual. Felt more like June, and early June.
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Elden - Oldham - Sunset Loop, AZ 
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Trying to peep some leaves, we did a variation of a peep hike we'd done previously.

Up Elden Lookout Trail is a steep one to the saddle, with 2200' of gain over 2.5 miles. I still like going up this one better, than going down on the end the hike. The aspens from the saddle to the tower, were mostly at peak. The winds were blowing pretty hard up there.

Going clockwise we hit Sunset to Upper Oldham, then down. Sunset Trail gives you great views of the aspens North and West of the peak. If the storm has not screwed things up, they should be peaking this weekend. Oldham is relatively smooth going down trough a thick mixed conifer/deciduous forest.

Up on Brookbank and then back on Sunset. Hiking through the red and golden aspens on the Sunset trail, north of the tower, were the highlight of the high this hike.

Going down Elden was a rocky slog.

Perfect weather, albeit a bit windy.


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Elden - Oldham - Sunset Loop, AZ 
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Correctamundo jockeyed the highlights like a groovy beat. It seemed prudent to snub the Christmas Tree Trail in favor of an out-n-back on #4. Yikes, less desired. Rethink the rhyme if it's on your dime.
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Massachusetts' & Canadians need not apply. Likely prime next week if Hurricane Rosa doesn't wreak havoc on colorfest.

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This is one of my favorite hikes in the Flagstaff area -- a loop hike up to Elden Mountain that starts and ends at the Sunset TH, on Schultz Pass Road. The trails on this hike are nice, and there is awesome scenery at many points on the hike.

We did the loop clockwise by starting on Sunset Trail #23. We followed the Sunset Trail almost all of the way to Elden Mountain, at which point we took the Elden Lookout Forest Road up to the summit. On the way back we followed the forest road to the turnoff for the Upper Oldham Trail, on the left side of the road. Unfortunately, there is no trail sign here indicating that it is the Upper Oldham Trail. The Upper Oldham Trail goes for about 1.5 miles back to the Elden Lookout Forest Road, at which point we took a left on the forest road. We followed the forest road for about 0.5 miles, and then turned right on the Brookbank Trail. This trail had a steep climb to a trail junction; the Brookbank Trail continues to the right and the Little Gnarly Trail goes to the left. At this junction we took the Little Gnarly Trail. Unfortunately, there is not sign indicating that you are on the Little Gnarly Trail; instead the sign says "Schultz Loop". We took the Little Gnarly Trail back to the trail head. There was one tricky part in following the Little Gnarly Trail -- you go into a meadow and have to make a right turn at a trail junction in the middle of the meadow, and there is no sign at the trail junction. From there you just continue back to the TH.

I enjoy the trails on this hike, and there is some awesome scenery at various points on the way. I didn't see any wildlife, but we came across a few mountain bikers and one bow hunter.

I must be living right: we got back to the TH at 12:15, and at 12:20 it started raining. It wound up raining 3 inches in Flagstaff that afternoon.
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Mount Elden - Dry Lake Hills Loop, AZ 
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This is one of our go to hikes now for color.
This seems to be the correct week for this one based on our previous 2 trips here.

We hit the Elden Lookout Trail #4 at about 8am and started the more than 2400' climb to the Lookout. Once you hit the saddle where the Sunset Trail ends, the Aspens were all aglow. There are nice tunnels of Aspens leading you up to the Lookout. This is the first time the Lookout was open while I was up there and I took legal advantage of going up into the tower. The gentleman manning the tower said he would pack it up Tuesday the 27th for the season.

A short road walk on the Lookout Road and we rejoined the Sunset Trail #23. Golden views back to Elden Mountain to the SE and other Aspen stands to the West are.... Nice... This is an enjoyable trail that takes you through Sunset Park, stands of Aspen and then lower to old growth conifer and some grassy areas.

We had never done the the upper portion of the Brookbank Trail #2 before. It will be in the rotation, as it was quite enjoyable. Mostly tall Ponderosa and smooth trail.

Once out to the Little Gnarly Trail, we headed westish across another new section for us, Dry Lake Hills. We took this to it's drop to the Rocky Ridge Trail #153.

The Rocky Ridge Trail #153, is a pleasant roller coaster through mixed conifer and deciduous.

The 1600' climb back to the top, starts in earnest on the Oldham Trail #1 and then Upper Oldham Trail. A steady climb at first and then gets steeper by the switchbacks approaching Oldham Park.

It was nice to be at the top again on the Sunset Trail, albeit a tad cold. We changed plans on our return to the truck to attempt get a good sun setting on the Aspen section of the Sunset trail. We missed prime light by 20 minutes or so. But, were able to catch a bit of golden light on the Eastern end.

All in all a nice new version of this loop.
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On the upper portions of the Elden Lookout Trail, above the Sunset Trail the Aspens were almost completely prime yellow. The Sunset Trail also was popping yellow!
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