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May 24 2025
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 Gilbert, AZ
Sky Islands Summit Challenge, AZ 
Sky Islands Summit Challenge, AZ
 
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Hiking20.43 Miles 5,916 AEG
Hiking20.43 Miles   8 Hrs   32 Mns   2.51 mph
5,916 ft AEG      23 Mns Break
 
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During a work meeting earlier in the week with an individual from Sierra Vista, the topic of hiking came up, and she encouraged me to look at the Huachucas for some great hiking opportunities. As I was looking through HAZ resources and Googling, I came across this event and realized it was scheduled to take place that weekend.

Of course, registration had long since closed, but on a lark, I decided to email the organizers and see if there was a chance to still register. To my surprise, I received a phone call later that day, and on Wednesday signed up for the event.

The challenge is capped at 250 entrants and offers three levels: One Summit (Carr Peak--9,230 11.2 miles), Double Summit (Carr Peak and Miller Peak--9,465 ft, 15 miles), or Elite Triple Summit (Carr, Miller, and Pat Scott Peak--8,517 ft, 18.1 mi.). We, of course, signed up for the Triple. :D

Drove down to Sierra Vista after work on Friday and made it just in time for the bib pick up, which was at the golf course and included dinner and the opportunity to hit some balls on the driving range. It was a beautiful evening with the setting sun lighting up some clouds over the mountains to the west.

Bibs and swag bag secured, we headed to our motel for a few hours of shut eye.

Bus departure for the Triple was a 4:20 am, with a scheduled start at the Ramsey Canyon Nature Preserve at 5 a.m. Predawn light offered limited visibility of wild turkeys high up in the trees squawking rather loudly.

Over half of the entrants were signed up for the triple. While billed as a hike (rather than a trail run), there were several trail runners signed up and they took off up front. The first half mile or so is road width as you head through the preserve past a couple of historical cabins and some huge maple trees and other foliage which I'm sure make for a fantastic fall colors hike. The wide road at the start also helped with sorting folks out into hiking speeds. At that point, we arrived at the Hamburg trail proper, and the trail was reduced to a single track. So, passing was a little more difficult, but it never felt particularly crowded. That said, I took fewer photos than usual because I didn't want to pass and then have to re-pass folks.

Past a look out point, the trail descends back to and along the creekbed, which only had pools given the dry winter (but would be fun and more beautiful in wetter years).

At the turn off for the Pat Scott Canyon trail, the Triples hung a right, while the Single and Doubles continued on Hamburg. From there, any congestion was basically done for the day.

5 miles and over 3K in elevation gained, we arrived at peak #1--Pat Scott Peak (which is on a different high point than the erroneously noted location on the topo map). There is no official trail to the peak itself, so the final climb to the summit involved a relatively steep but short off-trail scramble, from which our two other peaks on the day came into view. After a short break and a stamp in our summit "passport" book, we descended back to the Crest trail and wound back around to reconnect with terminus of the Hamburg Trail where we rejoined the Single and Double hikers.

The next section along the Crest Trail offered our first open views of the valley floor to the west an south into Mexico. Somewhere along this section, my phone must have pinged from a Mexican cell tower prompting a text from Verizon welcoming me to Mexico. :lol:

At the Carr Peak trail, we hung a left and contoured/climbed an open bowl area up to a switchback climb to the summit of peak #2--Carr Peak. This section offered the best views of Miller on the day. The Carr Summit provided panoramic views down to Sierra Vista and off to the northern edge of the Huachucas. It was also pretty windy on the summit, but the breeze was generally welcome and kept any heat in check.

Then we backtracked to Crest and continued a short distance to Bathtub Spring, where we hung a right for our final peak. The trail here starts out with a gradual contouring climb, which made the elevation manageable. It steepens at the final spur to the summit, but wasn't as bad as I was anticipating.

Peak #3--the Miller summit is the high point of the range and is a beautifully shaped peak with a solid green carpet of aspens on its north-east facing slope. Great views into Mexico and all around from the top. I didn't realize that Miller is in the top 10-15 peaks in Arizona in terms of elevation (depending on how many of the SF peaks you "count")--higher than Mt. Lemmon or Wrightson, and cracks the top 10 in terms of prominence. However ranked, it's a lovely peak.

At the Miller summit, our climbing was more or less done for the day, with total AEG approaching 6,000. And while we were glad to be going down, the downhill grind also exacts its own price. :sweat:

The lower part of Miller Canyon had lots of greenery, which I'm sure I'd enjoy more if not for the prior 17+ miles of work. But as is typical in most long hikes, the last 2 miles are always 5 miles long. : wink : Add to that the increasing temperatures (upper 80s/lower 90s at the TH), and we were glad to hit the finish line around 1:40 pm, where a shuttle bus ferried us a mile or two down the dirt road to where the busses could pick us up.

We bussed back to the start where our bibs gained us "free" entry into the wine/spirits festival with free drinks included. We don't drink, but most others on our bus were excited for some celebratory beers.

We planned to stay Saturday night as well, so we headed back to our motel for a well-deserved shower an nap. Then we hit dinner at Texas Roadhouse and decided to take in the newly released Mission Impossible movie. I generally like the series and it was worth a watch, but not as good as I was hoping. The movie was interrupted at a critical moment (when global electricity is shut down and the screen goes dark) when the fire alarm in the theater went off. For a while, we thought it was part of the movie/release schtick, but turned out to just be your regular teenagers pulling the alarm. After the FD came and restored order, we went back in and finished the show.

Having been up since 3:30 that morning, we crashed hard after the movie and awoke for a leisurely drive back to the Valley Sunday morning.

I'm not usually drawn into paying for hiking events, but this was pretty fun and certainly allowed us to see more of the Huachucas in one trip than we would have been able to do otherwise.
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 Mesa, AZ
Huachuca Mountains - AZT #1Tucson, AZ
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DarthStillerTriplogs 856
Hiking16.23 Miles 5,118 AEG
Hiking16.23 Miles   9 Hrs   18 Mns   1.80 mph
5,118 ft AEG      16 Mns Break
 
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I had one last bit of AZT1 to finish off, and it was almost evenly split by the Miller Canyon Trail. I started from the upper Miller Canyon TH at 8am with sunny and warm conditions. I briefly contemplated not wearing my sweatshirt right away, but I didn't like the idea of stopping to re-dress. As I ascended, I could feel the air getting cooler. By the time I was at the AZT, my fingers were numb.

Miller Canyon gets steep right off the bat, but not too bad. It seems smoother going up than going down when I was sore and on my 15th mile. After the 2 mile mark the trail crosses the canyon and gets even steeper and rockier. There are several switchbacks, then a gradual straight deathmarch ascent. Between 7K and 8K elevation, the thin air makes for a slog on the slightest hill.

Once on the AZT, I made my way over to where I left off 5 weeks ago from Parker Canyon Lake. I had it marked on the GPS, but I also drew an X in the dirt which was still there. This was just past Granite Peak. on the way there, I saw 2 thru hikers heading south. The way back down to Bear Saddle was almost all downhill, so I did all that and decided to take lunch there, which was the halfway mark of my total mileage for the day.

Just before I got to Bear Saddle, it started to snow. Halfway thru my lunch, it really started picking up. I cut short my lunch, put on my raincoat and gloves, and pushed on. At the top of Miller Canyon, the thru hikers were at the bathtub spring water source filling up and taking a break. the snow was still coming down and I headed over towards Miller Peak to finish off the last segment of this passage, having hiked to Miller Peak in 2018.

As I got to the junction of the AZT and the peak trail, another heavy snow squall set in. Visibility was marginal at best, and the trail was beginning to accumulate more snow, which had me a bit concerned with the steep descent still ahead. I had thought about hitting Miller Peak for a 2nd time, but with the weather and as tired as I was getting with the climbing (having already reached 5K AEG for the day), I decided to forego another summit.

On the way back to Miller Canyon and down Miller Canyon, the snow squall was the heaviest. Miller Peak as times was barely visible from the trail. It seemed like the lower I got, the more snow there was on the trail, which is the opposite of what I expected.

the last 3 miles my quads were hurting with the steep grades and the rocky trail. The final half mile gave some reprieve with almost level and smooth grades, and even on modest uphill. The snow finally disappeared the last mile and things were dry. the sun even peeked out for a bit until I finished. Once back at the TH, the temperature was much cooler than when I started.

The private residence just above the TH has a pack of Bumpus hounds that bray ceaselessly. They were howling in the morning (along with the roosters crowing) and on the way back they were at it again. In the afternoon I could hear the owner yelling at them to keep it down, which remarkably worked (for a little while).

Very glad to finish this segment and this whole southern AZ portion of the AZT. Onto other segments now a little closer to home.
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AZT Section Hike Episode 2: Bathtub to Lake, AZ 
AZT Section Hike Episode 2: Bathtub to Lake, AZ
 
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Backpack15.60 Miles 1,132 AEG
Backpack15.60 Miles   8 Hrs   20 Mns   2.28 mph
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Day Two of our trek to Patagonia. It was a cold start, which meant slow; we hadn't struck camp and finished filtering water at Bathtub Spring until 10am. The water in the tub was frozen on top, and I had fun breaking it up with my trekking poles.

We did a full water carry for the next stretch, as it seemed unlikely to get a refill before Parker Canyon, which was our destination.

Hiking the Crest of the Huachucas was gorgeous, certainly one of the highlights of the trip. The conditions were delightful and the views magnificent.

Sure enough, the long descent to Parker Canyon was dry. It was quite sunny and warm down below.

We made it to Parker Canyon before dark, and set up camp on the hill just south of the canyon. We got enough water for dinner and breakfast, and planned to fill up again in the morning. Another couple hikers were camping by the stream.

With no real wind and warmer temperatures, I didn't bother with my tarp and just slept under the stars and moon. When I got up the next morning there was a little ice, so there was a light freeze, but I was in my warm bag and didn't really notice.

dry Mud Spring Dry Dry
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Parker Canyon Creek @ AZT 2 Medium flow Medium flow
Delightful, clear, tasty water!


dry Scotia Canyon Dry Dry


 
Mar 08 2025
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AZT Section Hike Episode 1: Border to Bathtub, AZ 
AZT Section Hike Episode 1: Border to Bathtub, AZ
 
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Backpack10.98 Miles 3,750 AEG
Backpack10.98 Miles   9 Hrs      1.72 mph
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I and four intrepid, ragtag companions set out to walk from the border to Patagonia over four days. Keith dropped us off at the parking lot and hiked with us down to the border, where a ranger was supervising things and basically taking group photos of AZTers all day. Once back up to the parking lot it was late morning; Keith took off and the rest of us ate lunch at the picnic tables and set off a little before noon.

The weather was gorgeous: partly cloudy and cool, with occasional breezes. We had planned on starting the day prior, but a decent storm came through and persuaded us to delay the trip.

Lots of other backpackers on the trail. We saw a couple with impressively large packs hiking with a toddler. They got full marks for bravery, but it was clear they weren't going far. Another couple had started the day we wanted to, but only made it a few miles before they had to shelter from crazy winds and snow. We met another larger group doing Passage 1 as an out-and-back, and passed a solo hiker headed SOBO, just about to finish her thru.

For today, our goal was to reach Bathtub Spring and find a place to camp nearby. The climb was slow going for some of us, and we wound up splitting the group so the faster folks could get to the spring in time to set up camp and filter water before dark. I led the advance party, and we made the spring a little past four. I found a campsite down a side trail from the AZT, and we started filtering. The rest of the crew showed up less than an hour later.

It was pretty cold, and we wondered if it would get into the teens overnight. It was breezy all night, so it didn't, and we all slept warm.

Tomorrow, Parker Canyon!

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Tub full of icy water, dripping from pipe. Notes of porcelain and Johnson Baby Wash. Yum!
 
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Huachuca Mountains - AZT #1Tucson, AZ
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Hiking20.83 Miles 3,550 AEG
Hiking20.83 Miles   9 Hrs   20 Mns   2.32 mph
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I started from the Parker Canyon Lake Th and headed south about 10.4 miles and turned around. I've hiked a pretty good portion of AZT1 7 years ago, so I don't see a need to redo sections. I would rather fill the gaps and hike extra trails in that area, which this area allows you to do. But it's not easy.

A half mile in an elderly couple was walking the other way towards me. As we got closer I saw the guy had a Pirate hat on, at which point he noticed my Steelers gear. He and his wife are from PA originally, but have lived in AZ for decades longer than even I have. We talked for a little bit and it turns out they live in Payson. The offered to help out with any shuttle hikes for the AZT in that area if we ever need, which I may take them up on at some point.

The first 6 miles aren't bad, mostly level. Some climbs, but very mile. Did about 700' AEG in the first 6 miles. From 6 to 10 miles, my AEG went from 700' to 3300'+ :sweat: . There are a couple steeper climbs that level out after a bit. Then the switchbacks come. Relentlessly. My lungs were burning and my heart was racing. I can normally keep going at a slower rate and keep a steady pace. A few times I just had to stop and breathe. My time on this ascent was pretty good by my standards, however. No mile took more than 38 minutes to do. I've done hikes where the combo of steepness and rockiness had me at 45 min+ miles. The better conditions of the trail exposed my lack of cardio conditioning for this.

I ended up around 8400' when I was on a ridgeline. The wind up there was absolutely roaring at times. Then total silence. Then more roaring. The slightest uphill climb was draining. The views were phenomenal. :o I got to my chosen turn around point (somehow) and started back.

the descent was easier considering the AEG. the switchbacks helped reduce the steepness. By the time I got back to the flat part, it felt like someone had come by while I was gone and added a whole bunch of rocks that I didn't remember being there on the way in. My feet were not liking that but my knees were grateful. Finally finished up after 5pm, with the daylight transitioning into impending dusk tones.

I saw 2 doe 3 or 4 miles in, but they were gone before I could get any pictures. Saw several hikers on the way up, then no one on the way down. long day but very much worth it.
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Pat Scott's Carr, AZ 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking12.74 Miles 3,320 AEG
Hiking12.74 Miles   5 Hrs   41 Mns   2.65 mph
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Headed down to the chookas for my first visit up the Carr Canyon Road since 2015. The road was in sedan shape up to the winter gate at the perimeter trailhead. From there it gets a little dicey and even a subi-type vehicle might have trouble in a couple of spots.

I like this range in September, but this year was significantly drier than it was 9 years ago; less green, fewer flowers, and much less flowing water. And it was still great. It was surprising to see a grove of aspens along the Carr Peak Trail have begun their autumn transition.

Temps stayed in the 60s all day, except for the brief visit to Carr Peak where it dropped into the 50s. A light southwest breeze was perfect accompaniment to the day, only reaching irritable levels funneling up and over Bear Saddle.

Got to see another twin-spotted rattlesnake on the Crest Trail (my 3rd ever, after seeing 2 on a trip here three years ago. These guys are tiny, and might have the highest range of any rattlesnake species - up to 11,000 feet. Always a treat to see one.)

We opted against the trip out to Ramsey and instead headed down Pat Scott. The climb up Comfort Springs was as miserable as I remember. I had forgotten about the bonus field of poison ivy to negotiate in the last mile, but managed to wade through it mostly unscathed.

All in all, an enjoyable day in the chookas.
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It was apparent that there has been one short night of frost damaging some of the most sensitive flowers. Still a bunch hanging on, but the season will end fast.

dry Comfort Spring Dry Dry
Springbox was dry. There's a use path leading uphill toward the point on the topo map that indicates the spring source. I did not hike up to check for water at the source.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Pat Scott Canyon Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
A small pool at 8325, which I've always found to have some water. Consistent flow and pools at the 7580 contour and below with a few stretches where it flows underground again, but reliable for a mile or so below that point.

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No water where Wisconsin drains into Pat Scott.
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 Tucson, AZ
Ramsey PeakTucson, AZ
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Hiking17.84 Miles 4,251 AEG
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Left NW Tucson with Tim around 6 am. Drove my RWD Chevy Colorado up Carr Canyon but couldn't make it all the way to the top of the road because of the condition of the road. 4x4 is really needed on at least 2 sections near the top. We decided to park the truck on the side of the road and just hike from here. We knew it would add some extra miles but we felt we could make and had lamps which we needed for the final part of the hike. It ended up being 1.9 miles to Ramsey Vista campground at the top, so 3.8 miles additional had we been able to drive to the top of the road.

We starting hiking on Carr Canyon rd at 8 am. The elevation at our starting point was about 7,150 feet. We took the following route up.

walk up 1.9 miles of Carr canyon road
Comfort Spring Trail # 109
Hamburg Trail # 122
Pat Scott Canyon Trail # 123
Crest Trail # 103

There was a good amount of down hill hiking on the Comfort Spring Trail. At the junction with the Hamburg trail there were signs marking all trails that intersected. The Pat Scott Canyon trial was shaded by many pines and pleasant with a lot of soft pine needles making the trail easier to hike. We got to the saddle and junction with the Crest trail at around 11:50 am. Pat Scott North was about 1/4 mile North of us but we decided to stop at the saddle for lunch and a long well-deserved break. After lunch we continued on to Pat Scott North. I thought about hiking Pat Scott "South" on the way back if there was time. It was only about 1 extra mile out of the way and I wasn't sure if I even wanted to do it on this trip because this hike was going to be very long.

We continue North on the Crest trail. I summitted Pat Scott North which was only a few minute hike above the Crest trail. Tim stayed below since he already did this summit a few months before. I signed the registry, took some photos, and got back on the Crest trail heading North. We took this trail about 1/2 mile North of Pat Scott North peak. We knew we would need to head East somewhere in this area to get to Ramsey peak. We didn't see any signs or obvious trails but we did see a barbed wire fence that separated Forest service land with the Huachuca Military base land. We turned right here and followed the fence line up for a while. We eventually saw a use trail or perhaps an old unmaintained trail heading in the direction of Ramsey peak. We followed that for a while, losing the trail at times and picking up other trails that led in the same basic direction. Because we saw multiple trails we thought these must be animal trails. In some areas we saw what looked like bear prints in soft dirt areas leading around the mountain or up. In some places we found ourselves bushwhacking but realized we were better off staying North of the ridgeline, so we dropped back down. There were only a few places where we could actually see Ramsey peak because there was so much tree cover blocking the way.

Eventually we found ourselves at the actual summit. There was a rock pile with a registry and some great views to the South. To the Southeast we were able to see Carr peak and the highest point in the range, Miller peak, which was behind Carr. We had already logged 8.9 miles to this point and knew by the time we finished this hike, we would be at nearly 18 miles. After signing the registry and getting our photos/videos and taking a long break, we finally left the summit around 3 pm. We had a long way to go to get back but we were prepared with head lamps.

On the way back, we stopped for a few short water breaks and a longer break back at the Pat Scott canyon trail junction around 4:30 pm. Then, we continued heading down the Pat Scott canyon trail. After a while, we saw some water flow in the canyon and some larger pools. We were getting low on water so we decided to stop to filter some more drinking water. I filled up an entire 1/2 gallon jug in a few minutes and filter about 1 quart for Tim. We keep moving on. It was very humid in the canyon with no breeze at all, which slowed our pace. At around 6:25 we intersected with the Hamburg trail and then a few minutes later reached the Comfort Spring trail. The Comfort Spring trail was a bit rocky, and there was a lot of uphill to do. We were already tired at this point, but we kept pressing forward, taking a lot of short water breaks on the way. We turned our headlamps on right before 8 pm and had another half mile of trail to do before reaching the road / Ramsey Vista campground area. Nobody was camped up here today. We didn't see a single person on the trails all day.

After getting to the road, my headlamp went out and we only had 1 light between the 2 of us. We were incredible tired at this point, but we still had 1.9 miles left of road hiking. We took our time in the dark, and took a few needed water breaks. We could feel the humidity, even as late as 9 pm. We eventually made it back to my truck around 9:20 pm. It was a very long day.

After the hike we stopped at McDonald's and each got a $5 McDouble combo meal + an extra McDouble. I haven't had McDonald's food in years and was honestly impressed by the relatively good value in the Bidenonmics era. The $5 combo meal came with 1 McDouble, a small fry, 4 chicken nuggets, and a drink. The extra McDouble was something like $3.39. The entire bill for both of us was under $16 which was a surprise. But, my "go to" burger is still the old reliable and customizable flame broiled BK Whopper!

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Distance (round trip) = 17.84 miles
AEG = 4,251 feet
Strava moving time = 9 hrs 37 mins
Strava elapsed time = 13 hrs 24 mins
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golden columbine, broadleaf woodsorrel, Lemmon's spring parsley, Smelly wallflower, sunflower?, Maximillian sunflower?, Dakota mock vervain, Leafy arnica, Western thistle, beard-tongue, wild garlic?, Little river canyon onion, hot lips?, Diablo helianthella?, horsetail, split larkspur, scarlet cinquefoil, Aspen daisy, black walnut, Indian-pink, scarlet bouvardia, sweet four o'clock, peavine, Parry's agave
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Miller Peak from Crest TrailTucson, AZ
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Got started from Montezuma Pass around 0730 and headed north on the Crest Trail. The trail was damp from rain either yesterday or overnight, but not muddy. Cool, cloudy, and occasionally breezy. Nice views in all directions, and fun to see all the mines.

Some deadfall just south of the junction with Lutz Canyon Trail, but there’s already a detour developing just above the trail. The trail is in mostly decent shape, with minimal vegetation encroaching. The Miller Peak Trail is a little more overgrown, but not too bad.

Cool and breezy at the summit, where we took a lunch break before retracing our steps back down. Saw two other hikers as we were leaving the summit, but that was it for the day. Nice hike and good workout.
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Sky Islands Summit Challenge 2023, AZ 
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Hiking15.83 Miles 4,907 AEG
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Hiked the Sky Islands Summit Challenge for the third year in a row. This is an annual event put on by the City of Sierra Vista each spring. They provide buses/vans from the city to the start in Ramsey Canyon and from the finish in Miller Canyon back again. They have three options which are one, two or three peaks that they rate as "Difficult", "Very Difficult" and "Extremely Difficult". My first two times I picked the "Difficult" single peak challenge which goes to Carr Peak, but this time I decided to challenge myself with the two peak hike which adds Miller Peak. There were about 180 people total participating this year, most doing either 1 peak or 3 peaks with only 37 people signed up for the 2 peak challenge.

The hike started in Ramsey Canyon Preserve. Ramsey Canyon is a beautiful forest area with a stream. The two peak group started at 6:15. The 3 peak folks had started an hour or so earlier, and the single peak group would start an hour later. The trail goes up from the start and gets the heart pumping. At the end of the preserve it turns into the Hamburg Trail which is initially all stairs and switchbacks which is hard work. After a bunch of climbing and sweating we reach an overlook and take in the view. From here the trail descends and gives up most of the hard won elevation we just gained. This downhill segment lets us catch our breath. As we head down we can hear a stream below that we eventually reach and cross. There was definitely more water this time than the last two years, but not so much as to make it difficult to cross.

The trail crosses the stream several times as we begin to ascend the canyon. Interestingly the water seemed to start and stop. Most of the stream crossings we had to step on stones to cross the water, but some places the stream bed was dry. Then further up the canyon there would be water again. The trail gets steeper and steeper as it follows the stream. We stopped a few times to rest on the way up. Eventually the trail leaves the bottom of the canyon and heads up the canyon wall. It's steeper and it seems to go on forever, but at least it's cool and shady. Eventually we reach the Crest Trail at Bear Saddle which provides a view of the land to the West of the Huachucas.

After munching down on an energy bar and chugging some electrolyte juice at the saddle we continue on the Crest Trail #103 which is part of the Arizona Trail. The trail is more or less level for a while as it traverses the western edge of the mountain toward the South which is a nice change after the long, long climb to get there. The views to the west here are just stunning. Then the trail heads into the forest for a series of switchbacks that take us up and over the ridge where we get our first view of Carr and Miller Peaks.

At the ridge line we turn left on Carr Peak Trail #107. There are few big trees here on this side of the mountain because of a big fire that burned through some years ago. The trail climbs gently over about a mile and a half until we reach the spur to the peak. The spur is a bit steeper, but it's short and before long we're on top of Carr Peak where we check in, receive peak stickers for our water bottles and stamps for our passports to show we made it. Great view of Sierra Vista to the north, and of Miller Peak, our next destination, to the south.

We retrace our route back along Carr Peak Trail and then start heading downhill towards the aptly named Bathtub Spring where we turn right to stay on the Crest Trail. The spring was running and the tub was overflowing. The next mile or so was more or less level which was easy walking and helped my legs recover. Miller Peak is only a couple hundred feet higher than Carr Peak, but we descended quite a way and have nearly 1000 feet of elevation gain to get to Miller Peak. Now it's nearly noon, the trail is in sunlight and it's hard work. Eventually we reach the junction with Miller Peak Trail #105 which is a short spur that takes us to the peak where we get another sticker and stamp and an opportunity to catch our breath before the long hike down.

After a short break we start back down and retrace our route to Bathtub Spring. While it was a long climb up here, the footing is good and the slope is gentle enough that we can keep up a decent pace. From Bathtub Spring it's down the long, steep and miserable Miller Canyon Trail #106. There are several stretches that are steep and rocky and have to be taken slowly to avoid falling. Even though I had done this trail twice before, it still seemed to go on much longer than I remembered. As we headed down we saw a helicopter head up to the ridge where we had been to rescue a hiker in trouble. We also passed a couple of men from the Frye Fire Dept who were heading up Miller Canyon to assist a hiker. I heard people saying that at least three hikers needed to be rescued. Busy day for paramedics in the Huachucas. Thankfully my friends and I were not among those needing assistance.

When we reached the end of the trail a van was there in minutes to take us to the staging area farther down Miller Canyon, and from there a bus took us back to Veterans Memorial Park where the annual wine and beer festival was in full swing. Participants in the Summit Challenge all received two free drink tickets, and after a long day of hiking that beer tasted great!

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Ramsey Peak, AZ 
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My goal was to reach Ramsey Peak. I started from the Sunnyside Canyon Trailhead. It was a beautiful trail with long stretches of flowing water, calling birds, plenty of shade and few wind falls. The first three miles were a gradual grade except for what they call cardiac hill and the last two miles were switchbacks to the Crest Trail. On the crest, I took a detour to Pat Scott Peak, which wasn’t a problem, but later I did lose some time trying to figure out my location as there are evidently two Pat Scott Peaks, one labeled on the map and the other nearby and higher. After that I made my way on the Crest Trail to the fort’s Gate 2. This portion of the trail was faint with numerous wind falls. So far so good and I started on the “trail” to Ramsey Peak, which essentially follows the ridge saddle to the peak. As others have mentioned, it begins as a series of smuggler trails and eventually becomes a true bushwhack event. I alternated between rock-hopping/progressing through thick brush on the top of the ridge or trying to parallel it on the steep slick slope to the side. About ½ mile short of the peak, I decided that I had better turn around as I was getting short of water and time and returned to the Sunnyside Canyon Trailhead.
Got to say that I really enjoyed the Sunnyside Canyon Trail and found it to be much more of a “shady side” trail than some of the other local trails where you hike through stretches cleared or charred from fire.
I have not given up trying to reach Ramsey Peak. If there is a better way to bushwhack my way up to it, please let me know. I have seen some suggestions. One is to take the Pomona Mine trail and bushwhack from there. Its evidently shorter, more like 10 miles out and back, but I have heard that trail is a tough hike. Saw someone had used Scheelite Canyon trail, which evidently shorter than my route but is washed out and follows the same ridge to Ramsey. Similarly, the hike from the campground near Carr Peak uses that ridge and you need to drive to the campground. From looking at the topo map, it also looks as if a person could bushwhack from the Brown Canyon trail up one of the ridges to Ramsey. I am interested in seeing your thoughts. Thanks.
 
May 13 2023
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Pat Scott - Carr loop, AZ 
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,600
Hiking13.04 Miles 3,723 AEG
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Today seemed like a good day for the Huachucas. Kelly and I started from Ramsey Vista Campground shortly after 0700 and headed down Comfort Springs Trail. Cool to start, which was nice.

Hopped onto Hamburg Trail for a minute, then onto Pat Scott Canyon Trail. Lots of water along the trail, with numerous water crossings—all easy. Some deadfall, but nothing too difficult. Finally topped out at the Crest Trail and headed north to what may or may not be Pat Scott Peak. Either way, it has some nice views.

Headed back south on Crest to what also may or may not be Pat Scott Peak on the other side of the junction. Different maps say different things. Steeper climb to this one, but not bad. We dubbed one Pat Scott and the other Patricia Scott. Regardless, we got the peak one way or another.

Once back on the Crest trail again, we headed south for a few miles. Pleasant hiking through the trees, with nice views on either side of the ridge. After Bear Saddle, the climb up to the junction with Carr Peak Trail was a bit warm.

Carr Peak Trail was much easier, with a side trip up to the peak. Had a snack up there and enjoyed the gathering clouds. Up until the peak, we had only seen one other hiker all day, a woman who was doing nearly the same loop as us. Saw a half dozen hikers at the peak, but we had the summit to ourselves most of the time.

The descent off Carr down to the campground is mostly easy with a moderate grade. One or two short sections of rocky trail, but felt like a breeze to finish out the loop. Fun day, and good to hike with Kelly again.
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Still early, but saw a few flowers here and there.

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Pat Scott - Carr loop, AZ 
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linda invited me to do this loop in the huachucas
we got going around 0715
cool temps in the lower elevations
comfort springs, hamburg, pat scott canyon to the crest trail
we hit both pat and patricia scott peaks :lol:
continued on the crest trail to carr peak trail
took a nice snack break on carr peak, then down to the campground
saw our first person after we had done the pat scott marked on the topo
her maps had the other peak as pat scott, so we went up that too
chatted with her a bit on carr, where we saw a half dozen other hikers
a few more people toward the finish
good breeze most of the day
water flowing in pat scott canyon
clouds building in the afternoon
nice views from the peaks and from the crest trail
love these sky island ranges :)
thanks for a great hike linda!
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Huachuca Mountains - AZT #1Tucson, AZ
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Tough hike that deserved a double-barreled summit. :)
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Carr Peak Trail #107Tucson, AZ
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Mike, Brian and myself had planned on a trip to the Hauchucas for several peaks in June before California, but the active Monsoon canceled that and continued to do so well into August and September. With Brian back from Montana, we were finally able to come down here with great weather and conditions for an enjoyable day up 2 of the 4 planned peaks. From Ramsey Vista we hiked Carr and Granite Peak, which is off the Crest Trail just above Bear Saddle.

Pretty mild for most of the day, so that was really nice. Visibility was also about as good as it gets. Mike saw what was likely another speckled rattle snake at the junction to Carr Peak. The snow didn't hinder travel, and while Carr was crowded at times, I still would return to hike Miller from Ramsey Vista, or Pat Scott and Ramsey.

Most people probably won't bother with Granite. I was surprised that Dixie Flyer didn't appear to have bagged it. It wasn't bad at all, but it doesn't impress you. Some of the summits over the Crest Trail or near Carr seemed more impressive. Me, I just like a good view.

The road to the TH is rough, I wouldn't want to take a Honda Civic on it, but an Outback or better would be okay. It is rocky after the summer. A truck won't mind it.
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Signed up for the single Peak Challenge again this year, same as last year. Hiked up to the saddle with minimal rest stops. Made pretty good time, but my legs were feeling it. Took an early lunch break at the saddle before continuing the rest of the way, and that helped. It was quite windy at the saddle, and it got windier and windier the close we got to Carr Peak. I had to tighten up the chin strap on my hat to keep from losing it. But sorrow on the peak it wasn't windy at all. Just a pleasant light breeze. But wind was cranking as soon as we started down off the peak.

That 4 mile descent down Miller Canyon is a real bitch. Steep, rocky, and it seems to go on forever. I felt much better than last year when I had to stop many times on the way down just to make it. It also helped that I knew the trail which better prepared me mentally. But my knees were feeling it by the time I got to the bottom.

All in all a great day in the Huachuca Mountains. A very well organized event by the city of Sierra Vista. I will do it again next year for sure!
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Montezuma - Miller - Border, AZ 
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I had hiked up to Miller Peak a couple of times previously, but both times I came in from the north via Miller Canyon. I also wanted to check out the southern terminus of the AZT, so decided to do this hike by starting at Montezuma Pass.

My original plan was to hike down to the border, then hike to Miller Peak, and then come back to Montezuma Pass. However, the temperatures were a bit warmer than I would have preferred, so I decided to hike to Miller Peak first in order to get most of the elevation gain done early in the morning. Of course, that meant that we'd finish the hike by going uphill for the last 2 miles, but I figured that was the lesser of 2 evils.

The Crest Trail from Montezuma Pass to Miller Peak had some obvious recent trail maintenance, which helped make for an enjoyable hike on this stretch. It was a bit breezy at the summit, but it wasn't too bad. It was a hazy days, so views weren't as nice as I have seen them before.

Once back at Montezuma Pass, we took a snack break, and then headed south to the border. The border wall was interesting, and we hung out there for a bit before heading back to the TH.

This was an enjoyable hike -- views were great along the way and the trails were in really good condition.
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Apr 02 2022
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Miller Canyon Trail #106Tucson, AZ
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Miller Canyon --> Crest --> Pat Scott --> Hamburg --> Crest --> Miller Canyon

Was the first car in the parking lot at 5:50, started hiking at 6am. At the Crest Trail by 8, where I startled ~8 deer not too far from Bathtub Spring. The last time I had hiked this stretch of the Crest Trail was a decade ago when I did the AZT, so I remembered the descent on the west side, but after that my memory was a blank. The stretch from the descent to Bear Saddle was a very pleasant surprise.

From Bear Saddle to Pat Scott was another pleasant surprise. Lovely tree cover and many great views to the west. I had some kind of game bird explode into flight nearly under my feet at one point. Too big to be a quail, but I don't think there are grouse in the Huachucas, so I don't know what it was.

Just before Pat Scott I passed 3 deer within 20 feet of the trail who couldn't have cared less about my presence. Even when I stopped to take a picture, they just continued eating while occasionally looking at me.

Pat Scott sees way less use than the Crest based on the trail condition. I knew the approximate distance of the loop I was doing, but I hadn't looked too closely at the elevation changes. Once I realized how much Pat Scott was dropping, I could tell Hamburg was going to be a fun climb. Sure enough, that's a steep one.

I had lunch at Bear Saddle. Windy with strong gusts, but just the right temperature in the sun. Some ravens showed up to play in the wind gusts doing barrel rolls and flips. I appreciate them giving me a show during my lunch.

Back up at the Crest, I stopped for a water break and noticed that someone had left an Evernew 2.0L bottle at the campsite where Carr & Crest split. It was very new, so I left it there in case they noticed later that day and came back, but that was probably quite the bummer for an AZT thru-hiker.

I thought about doing Carr Peak, but my legs had decided they had had enough AEG for the day. Next time.

As I started down Miller Canyon, I saw 4 people coming down the Crest trail from Miller. Those were the only people I saw all day. I have no idea how so few people were out hiking in the Huachucas on a Saturday with such perfect weather, but it worked out great for me.
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Huachuca Mountains - AZT #1Tucson, AZ
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On the weekend of March 19-20, I hiked Passage 1 of the AZT, from Montezuma Pass south to the border, then north to Parker Canyon Lake. My lovely wife and her friend dropped me off at the pass, and they were still there when I returned a couple of hours later. They had walked up Coronado peak, and when they got back, the parking lot was closed off to clear a space for a helicopter to land as part of a rescue operation.

I continued on north, climbing to the summit of Miller Peak, and then hiking on just a little beyond Bathtub Spring to camp just before dark. I camped in the lee of the ridge, but the wind was really noisy, and coupled with the high elevation, I did not sleep well.

Sunday morning, I got up at dawn and discovered how difficult it is to light an alcohol stove at 38 degrees. Got it going, got my breakfast, and continued on to the lake.

Overall, the trail is in great shape. Just a few trees down in Sunnyside Canyon and just above. Access to both trailheads is easy by car. There were some tiny snow patches in the shady north facing slopes near Miller Peak, but nothing even remotely difficult. There might be a little more now. The weather came in just as I got to Parker Canyon Lake, and left at least a dusting of snow at higher elevations.

Compared to all the Sonoran desert I have been haunting lately, this area was a pleasure to visit. Lots of oaks, Douglas Fir, Ponderosa Pine, and Junipers made for a nice forest at the higher elevation. On the other hand, going uphill above 7000’ is always a challenge for this old guy.

We did pretty well hitting our rendezvous time at the marina. I was 10 minutes early and my wife was 25 minutes early.
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Mar 19 2022
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Miller Canyon Trail #106Tucson, AZ
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My first time going up Miller Canyon trail. Quite the steep one. The gentle gain on the Crest Trail was a relief in comparison. Sunny and warm, but still a decent amount of ice/mud in the Crest Trail in places (which I'm sure was doubled by the storm a few days later).

I met a trio of women who were hiking the AZT (or at least a big chunk). One went up Miller Peak while the other two kept going. I know some people hike that way, but I've always found it odd to separate by big distances during the day. And the two who didn't head up to the peak missed out.
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Crest Trail #103Tucson, AZ
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Starting at Montezuma Pass TH, going along the Crest Trail to Miller Peak, then along the Crest again to Carr Peak, and then all the way back to Montezuma Pass.

My first hike as a resident of the county. At the first overlook (not even .5 mi from the TH), a startled coati bolted through the tall grass into the nearby rocks. An auspicious start to living/hiking here.

Didn't see anyone else until I was on Miller Peak--two guys were on the far end of the southwest ridge that stretches away from the peak. Looked like hunters doing spotting prep work.

I hadn't been along the Crest from Miller to Bathtub Spring since I did the AZT a decade ago. Absolutely wonderful. The pine forests on the top of the sky islands really are God's country.

While I enjoy the "more open + tall grass + occasional pines" scenery that dominates after Bathtub Spring, it makes for much hotter hiking. The climb to Carr Peak was toasty.

On the way out, as I descended from the big juniper that's 2 miles from the TH, I kept hearing voices, so I assumed I would catch some hikers in front of me. I never caught them, but I kept hearing them. When I started looking hard, I realized there were 4 people doing a bushwhack straight down from the big juniper (where the Crest trail curves to the west of the canyon). They were maybe .5 mile down, and had quite a way to go through steep, rough country to reach the road at the bottom of the canyon. I hope they made it.
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