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Holbert Trail - South Mountain - 64 members in 516 triplogs have rated this an average 3.2 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Sep 01 2025
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Dobbins Lookout via Pima Canyon, AZ 
Dobbins Lookout via Pima Canyon, AZ
 
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John10sTriplogs 347
Hiking14.26 Miles 2,555 AEG
Hiking14.26 Miles   3 Hrs   22 Mns   4.24 mph
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Decided to get up early on Labor Day for a morning hike before the day heated up. It was already in the upper 80s before 5AM, but a steady breeze kept it from feeling too uncomfortable. I forgot to bring a flashlight--haven't started this early at SoMo in a while--but there were enough city lights that I could get by without it, then a colorful sunrise. The trails were emptier than I expected for a holiday with reasonably nice late summer weather.

I stuck to my usual route, which I hadn't done in more than two months, and went out to Dobbins Lookout, paused for some water, then headed back and went over Marcos de Niza again to finish it off. Nothing too interesting out there today, though I saw what looked like a squished frog on National Trail...that's a new one. And the ocotillo leaves have greened up a lot in the past week after the recent rain.
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Dobbins & Gila Lookouts, AZ 
Dobbins & Gila Lookouts, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Aug 24 2025
trekkin_geckoTriplogs 4,660
Hiking10.22 Miles 2,175 AEG
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john and i got going up geronimo at 0530
from buena vista went over to dobbins then gila lookouts
this might be my favorite combo from geronimo
good hike, good refreshments, good company
thanks john
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Aug 24 2025
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Dobbins & Gila Lookouts, AZ 
Dobbins & Gila Lookouts, AZ
 
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Hiking10.22 Miles 2,175 AEG
Hiking10.22 Miles   3 Hrs   6 Mns   3.35 mph
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Workout hike. Sweatfest. Good pace set by the gecko. Thanks Kelly! :)
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Aug 10 2025
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Telegraph - Bursera Holbert Lasso Loop, AZ 
Telegraph - Bursera Holbert Lasso Loop, AZ
 
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joebartelsTriplogs 5,895
Hiking20.28 Miles 4,525 AEG
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Prehydrated: 38 oz
Carried: 174 oz (124 frozen)

When I arrived, a large group of about 16-24 people was getting ready to head out. I thought they were runners, later realized they were mixed ages and backgrounds. I started a half furlong behind them. I passed them and then never saw them again, concentrating on transitioning from Grillz to My Way. Guessing they turned on Desert Classic.

This was my first time on the west side of Bursera. More people out here than expected. Teenage girl, three guys (Kurt Sedler types), then two guys who could be star quarterbacks or excellent car salesmen. The geology is more reminiscent of Estrella/Piestewa.

This is one of those rare hikes where you're hiking away from looking at the sun or without staring at the sun on the drive, either.

The West end of Gila is undoubtedly loved by no one. It skirts the bajada, dipping in and out of a few ravines. Whereas the Bursera across the ravine has nicer alluvial geology to glide over.

The steepest grade on Prospector was in full sun, but I got a nice breeze.

Generally, I avoid Goat Hill, since it's illegal. The pre-planned hike was under 20 mi and under 5K. So I figured I'd hit a few little peaks along the way.

Two rangers at the bottom of the Ranger Trail with a funky couple behind me. Luckily, I'd recently tackled these nondescript multi-use trails scattered about the actual trail and sailed through.

I needed to rearrange a lot of water bottles and such, so I thought it'd be a good opportunity to tackle a sliver of Judith Tunell Interpretive Trail and utilize the Ramada for a few minutes. Whoo doggy, the rubberized grate bench in the shade was comfy. What are the chances two families came off-trail directly down the hill and stopped at the Ramada... lol C'est la vie, probably best to keep moving anyway.

Dec 23rd 2024, KingLeonidas posted a clue via RS where the temporary or new trail routes. It worked out great. Just be sure to verify which days are legal, cuz I'm no angel. From previous hikes, I had a lunch spot in mind. Only partially shady, but it worked out. I ate half of a dry WinCo ham and cheese on a pretzel hoagie, cuz there needs to be something other than water and electrolytes in the mix.

Realized I only had 36 oz of water left. So I nixed two side trips to push it over 5K in favor of life. Since it was later in the day vs recent previous trips, a few more shade options were opening up. I took a 6-minute break at one, but just wanted to finish the hike.

40 oz more water would have been better, but it all worked out.

Android stats in airplane mode start to finish, 2,983 points, used 25% battery.
iPhone 20.15 mi / 4483 AEG | 3,228 points, never in airplane mode, used 35% battery.
2 bug fixes for RS 7.2.4 in dev worked, perhaps out in a few days.
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Aug 03 2025
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Prospector - Holbert Loop, AZ 
Prospector - Holbert Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Aug 03 2025
joebartelsTriplogs 5,895
Hiking15.16 Miles 3,400 AEG
Hiking15.16 Miles   6 Hrs   39 Mns   2.44 mph
3,400 ft AEG      26 Mns Break
 
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The third ascent of this loop two days ago was rough. I knew why from an eight-lap blur on Camelback long ago, and wanted to make key adjustments.

Several out early, heading up, but nothing like that first week of back to school, which was oddly the busiest weekend of the year. A few clicky groups you won't see at Piestewa. Most of which would be dead if I saw them on the trail later on in the day.

The few impressive athletes were a runner and two mountain bikers in the outback.

There were no construction workers on the Holbert trailhead project, so I decided to hike through. Coming across three guys who could undoubtedly explain how to split an atom, wanted to know how to get up to Dobbins Lookout.

Overwhelmed by a hind thot of why on earth are you fine people wasting your time going to Dobbins mid-day in August. One guy was showing me his app, which I couldn't see without glasses or squinting in the sun.

Not to be rude, but the spring chickens couldn't have been parked too far away, and I needed to get moving, so I pointed right and went left.

I never encountered a stay out sign or any signage for that matter, but the old trail from the parking lot is gone. They wasted more time sourcing boulders that didn't belong than putting up a single sign for anyone coming across their trails that they haven't updated in eons on their website. ie: Pyramid is still on the static and interactive maps.

Disturbing wildlife in the middle of a city with a huge construction project yards away weighed heavily on my mind. A boulder hop from wherever the new trail was, I carried on.

In the old roundup area, I expected to see Team 4.0 giggling equations with their handy dandy app guiding them.

The old trail that went across and hooked up to the road by the water tower has been obscured. From the road up, it's the same old same old. Apparently, you hook into the road lower or further north now; I have no clue.

On the bright side, I felt much better than 2 days ago. Took a break at a semi-shady spot in a ravine crossing, thinking I might spot the trio, but they never surfaced.

My favorite part of National Trail was once again the last step, but the hike across didn't drag on today.

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KingLeonidas clued us all in Dec 2024
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Prospector - Holbert Loop, AZ 
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joebartelsTriplogs 5,895
Hiking15.55 Miles 3,561 AEG
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The faucet at the tables trailhead had a slow flow of screaming hot water perfect for tea or ramen.

The gate doors on the ranger trailhead restrooms appeared open from 20 yards out. The junior sized cattle tank had a light flow, clear and therapeutically warm.

Approaching Holbert, I realized it's under renovation. Construction workers galore and unaware if it was open for that or extreme advisory, I elected for an old pioneer route to bridge the gap. Minutes on the Holbert, a jogger passed me heading down, apparently it's open... Lol
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Dobbins Harvester, AZ 
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Hiking avatar Jun 20 2025
trekkin_geckoTriplogs 4,660
Hiking9.91 Miles 2,254 AEG
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met john at geronimo at 0445
at buena vista lookout, headed west, then took holbert to dobbins lookout
on the return, went up to harvester benchmark and east to hook back up with national
we disagree on whether we've done this exact combo before (no)
good hike
not many people out
thanks, john
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Dobbins Harvester, AZ 
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Hiking10.10 Miles 2,254 AEG
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Senior solstice slumber. No speed records were set this day. Good hike. Thanks Kelly! :)
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Dobbins Lookout via Pima Canyon, AZ 
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Another quick pre-work hike...I got started around sunrise at 5AM on relatively quiet trails with temps in the mid-80s and climbing. I stuck to my usual route out to Dobbins, took a quick water break there, then headed back. The city added a lot of temporary signage reminding people about the 8AM-5PM trail closures on extreme heat days, though I'm not sure how strictly they enforce that--there were still quite a few people on the trails when I finished a little after 8AM. No interesting wildlife today, just glad to be done before it got hotter.
 
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Dobbins Lookout via Pima Canyon, AZ 
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I got an early start ~5AM for a morning pre-work hike. Falling back into the usual summer pattern, I headed for Dobbins Lookout and started up Marcos de Niza. The air had the sweet smell of wet desert, and there were a still a few puddles from Sunday's rain--the area around Hidden Valley was especially moist. Overall, not too many people out on the trails. Not much interesting wildlife, but there were more hummingbirds flying around than usual and quite a few lizards. I paused for a quick drink at the lookout, then started back and ran into TboneKathy a few miles from the trailhead, and I was done before 8:30AM.
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Walk to the Mailbox, AZ 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,994
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I forgot there was a mailbox up here. Seems a worthy destination.

I did a SoMo YoYo. Or is it a transomo?

For some reason I thought the gates stayed open past 7 in the summer. The two rangers were too busy doing ranger things together to get the gate closed before I entered at 7:01.

Good rain this morning left plenty of puddles, soft steps, and occasional mud. A nice change for June.

Up Tele, down Kiwa.

Fun story: I've never actually hiked the full Lomita. There are a couple of really nice stretches in there. Most is awful.

HAZ says you can't hike in Box Canyon. SoMo trail map has a friggen trail called Box Canyon. It parallels the geographic feature. But HAZ doesn't have the trail. Go figure.

On the ground, I couldn't find the trail. The GPS route for Holbert goes up a canyon signed as closed and aggressively obstructed with rock and natural debris. Holbert sign posts begin at the bottom of the Box Canyon wash along the paved road east of the fenced off activity center construction area. Which doesn't match the master trail plan. Who knew Somo could be so confusing? By all accounts, there is no currently legal way to connect Lomitas/Box with Holbert. After construction is complete, you will be able to traverse the huge parking lot. I think?

I hadn't hiked Holbert in over a decade. Maybe this is why?

Up and over. Nice breeze higher up. Stopped at the mailbox. Heading back to Telegraph, rangers on the road below got on the megaloudspeaker in their vehicle to ask if I was ok. I yelled back all good. A mile later it happened again. A different ranger this time. I wondered if I somehow looked distressed from hundreds of yards away through a windshield? Or maybe somebody had reported an overdue hiker and they were out looking for somebody. Or maybe there was a murderer on the loose? These mailbox walks are risky.

Dozens of millipedes enjoying the damp soil. Toad and vinegaroon. Coyotes howling. A bunch of western banded geckos. Nothing without shoulders, which surprised me a bit.
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Hiking14.37 Miles 2,535 AEG
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I was tired of sitting around after one day of work, so I rolled the dice with the rain chances and got an early start at Pima Canyon...couldn't pass up the opportunity to be outside on a rare cloudy day in May with highs 20° below normal. I packed some rain gear just in case and started a little after 5AM, with no discernible sunrise through the thick clouds. The trails were blissfully quiet, and rabbits outnumbered humans over the first half of the hike. The western skies were very dark on the way out to Dobbins Lookout, but the rain stayed to the N/NW.

I still didn't see many people until I was back near the trailhead, and I was doing well timewise, so I went up and over Marcos de Niza again on the way back. Clouds, cool temps (low/mid-60s), and petrichor from start to finish, and never felt a drop of rain. Dreary, but nice day to be outside, and I was back home long before my first meeting of the day. I've been telling myself for more than a month, "This will probably be the last this spring with temperatures this nice!" One of these days, I'm going to be right.
 
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I got started just after 6AM on a cool morning...this might be the last day with a high in the 60s for a long time, so I wanted to get outside and enjoy it. Clouds and haze made for a bland sunrise, but the trails weren't too busy. I hadn't been to Dobbins Lookout in a few months, so I defaulted to my old go-to route through Hidden Valley out to Dobbins.

Nothing too interesting today...quiet trails, no unusual wildlife, just some new graffiti on the way up to the lookout that wasn't there last time. But it was a perfect morning to be out, and the cool breeze felt great--I didn't ditch the long sleeves until Dobbins. A few more months and the summer sweat-fest will be here :(. I was feeling good on the hike out and went up and over Marcos de Niza again to finish it off.
 
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trekkin_geckoTriplogs 4,660
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dobbins lookout and holbert to the water tank via geronimo
got going about 0610
saw just a few people out
great temps
did this ten minutes faster than last time
we must not be on the slide into decrepitude yet
good hike john, thanks
na refreshments after :)
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Senior workout hike. Good variety on this one. Great weather. Saw lots of quail and bunnies.
Thanks Kelly! :)
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south mountain workout hike
met john at 0630
geronimo, national, holbert to the water tank with a stop at dobbins lookout
back the same way
john brought refreshments!
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Back on the Senior Circuit! Ad libbed as we went. Great weather. Fun hike. Hot and cold refreshments following the hike. Thanks Kelly! :)
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met john at 0700
up geronimo, west on national, down holbert to the water tank with a visit to dobbins lookout
back the same way
using my track from 2021, not sure why mileage was less today
elevation gain was about the same
lots of people on holbert
one of many options from geronimo
thanks for hiking and for coffee, john
good times
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Another workout hike from Geronimo down to the water tank/road on Holbert. Thanks Kelly! :)
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Hiked Holbert trail as our weekly fitness hike. They still have the parking lot construction going on and had to detour around it
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