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Aug 30 2022
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Started by driving the entire Swift Trail to it's end.
Quickie hike out to Clark Peak, found many raspberries along #301
Then looped Riggs Lake along the Lakeshore Trail #340
We rescued a bird caught up in fishing line before heading out to our fishing spot.
Caught a limit of Rainbows in under 30 minutes!
Then another hike out to the overlook behind the lake.
Tried to add Jesus Babcock #321, but could not locate the trail (another Frye Fire casualty).
On the way out we tried to hike in on the west side of Chesley Flat. Yet another trail all but gone from the Frye fire. We managed to find the aspen hidden TH sign, but no established trail remains ... Chit!
Many white tails & Abert's squirrels were spotted. Also 2 turkey and 1 red tail hawk.
Amazing sunset sky on the drive back down the mountain followed by rain.
Solid day on the Big Island, Solid partner ... Thanks for taking me AS!
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Jul 19 2022
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Started with a stop at the Columbine visitor center for a visit with our friend.
The hike - Columbine up to Webb Peak :next: a bit down Chesley Flat (lost the trail) :next: down to Solider Creek :next: Swift Trail back to Columbine.
Lots of burn area, but with a very lush green forest floor and many wildflowers adding color.
Nice breezy temps up high, a few dark clouds above with a few sprinkles here and there.
3 turkeys and one white-tail spotted.
Fun hike with a fun friend!
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Oct 22 2017
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Swift Trail (State Hwy 366)Tucson, AZ
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Met up with Chad bright and early after another all-nighter working at the telescope on Mount Graham, and we started up the Swift Trail. The focus of the day was to tour the Pinalenos and see first hand the effects of the Frye Fire of June 2017. Our first stop of the day was at a small canyon that I had passed so many times without ever stopping to explore it. This little hidden gem was loaded with changing maples and flowing water.

As we passed the top end of the Shake Trail, we entered into the main burn area of the Frye Fire. Pitchfork Canyon looked like it had been skewered by the Devil’s flaming pitchfork. A mountain side of black sticks where a lush stand of mature firs had once provided dense shade. The Arrow Tree still stood.

Stop 2 was at Snow Flat. Most of this area had fared well, with the exception being the back road to Treasure Park (Treasure Park via Snow Flat hike is charcoal city). Hospital Flat had some damage but is still beautiful, I think.

Stop 3 was Grant Hill Trailhead. Grant Hill was almost entirely consumed in a crown fire. Hopefully aspens will thrive here in the coming decades, but it looks pretty bad right now, and the trail loops on it are closed for the foreseeable future. We talked with the Squirrel Girl here, and heard the latest Red Squirrel census, which was pretty grim (35 found during the post-fire count, I heard).

The Grant Creek area didn’t look too bad, with only moderate fire damage, as we approached Stop 4: Cunningham Campground, next to the western trailhead of the Cunningham Loop. We talked with some
Forest Service employees briefly, and checked out the the Grant Creek Trailhead before continuing on. The Moonshine Creek area fared well, with fall aspens and ferns adding some color.

The Fort Grant overlook revealed Grant Creek Canyon to have a mosaic burn pattern, with plenty of green forest left intact.

Approaching Columbine through the singed spruce-fir, we turned down Bible Camp Road toward the Deadman-Highline Trailhead. Bible Camp Road had seen mosaic burn, and while there was heavy damage in places, there were some patches of surviving spruce-fir. I knew that much of Deadman had been thoroughly torched, but I had hope that my trail sign might have survived. As we rounded the first corner of Deadman, there was the trail sign I had made in 2010, perfectly undamaged among burned logs. I couldn’t believe it, and it was one of the few sights that day that made me smile. I unbolted my soot-covered creation to bring it home, as Deadman-Highline, my favorite Pinaleno trail, will probably not ever reopen.

The next stop was one Chad and I were both apprehensive over: Columbine Corral/Ash Creek Trailhead. We had heard that Ash Creek and Webb Peak were severely burned and a sea of black sticks. Sadly, that was true. The jewel of the Pinalenos was completely devoid of green, save for some small aspen and raspberry sprouts in places. Heartbreaking. On to the next spot...

Soldier Creek Campground looked great, just like old times.

As we drove toward Chesley Flat across the black skeleton slopes of Webb Peak, we wondered if any of the top was untouched by this mega-fire. Fire damage beyond Chesley Flat was less severe, and finally ceased at the turnoff for Riggs Lake. There is some ground fire evidence on the east side of Riggs, but very minor. We walked around the lake on the Lakeshore Trail, finally able to see a healthy, familiar favorite.

We continued down the last mile plus of the Swift Trail through the unburned forests of old, to the Clark Peak Trailhead, where we started the CP Flat Loop hike. The west end of the Pinalenos was deserted and we enjoyed a great hike through the aspens and mixed conifer woodland.
The rugged cliffs of Grandview Peak above Hell’s Hole looked amazing with a small strip of golden aspens clinging precariously.

Making our way home, I pulled over at Chesley Flat to check out the upper end of the Blair Canyon Trail and the old “spooky woods” area. This area was on the edge of the Webb Peak inferno and sustained heavy but not total damage. Still some survivor trees, including the tumor tree, and the ancient Blair Canyon Trail sign.

We continued back down the mountain, discussing our findings and thoughts on the matter, and made one final stop at the upper Shake Trailhead to see trees caked in red retardant from the fire.

Back on the straightaway at the base of the Pinalenos, Chad headed for home, and I grabbed a sandwich at Mount Graham Market for dinner on the road to home.

A few observations, which are totally my opinion...
Most of the burn area, which includes the majority of the top of the Pinalenos, appeared to me to have about 50% tree mortality. Of that 50%, a large portion of these trees were covered in dead needles with no sign of green (heat scorched trees, rather than burn, maybe?). The most severe burn areas appeared to be Pitchfork Canyon, Grant Hill, Ash Creek, and Webb Peak. The least severe/most green areas appeared to be Snow Flat, the area north of Hospital Flat, and Grant Creek watershed. The top of Graham Ridge between Shannon Campground and the summit of Mount Graham was severely burned, with almost total tree mortality. Severe erosion scarred most of the drainages and creeks on top. I won’t discuss my personal feelings here, other than to say the burn was worse than I had feared. I still love the Pinalenos, and always will, but they sure do look rough right now. I might post a photo set.

Chad, thanks for another great adventure! Much better to see sights like this with a like-minded friend.
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Oct 22 2017
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My final trip up to the top of Graham to survey the damage left from the Frye Fire before the November 15th winter closure. I met up with Preston and together we headed up the mountain as we have done so many times before. Plan was to survey as many sites as we could and also get in a hike at the end of the Swift Trail. We drove the entire road to it's end and this is what we saw & know .....

We first stopped on the way up for a quick trek up "secret canyon" for some fall colors, looked good and is only gonna get better. A return trip up will be made soon.
Second stop up was made at Ladybug Saddle to show Preston where & how I dislocated my shoulder last week, I was in need of some sympathy.
Then around to the backside/top and into the burn -

Snow Flat - Road down to the CG hit with med intensity burn, campground unaffected and beautiful.
Treasure Park CG - Road down med burn, meadow and CG mostly unaffected and beautiful, the "back" CG hit hard and now gated with "forest closed" sign.
Cunningham CG - Intact, but high burn all around CG. The trail-head for Grant Creek & Moonshine has "closed forest" sign. We could see golden aspens down in Moonshine and a later overlook view showed that lower Grant Creek from Ft Grant TH was unaffected, the upper trail has burned. At Cunningham we talked with a high up Forest Service employee who gave up permission to hike a bit into Ash Creek for a look a little further up the road.
Soldier Creek CG - One of my favorites and I was very happy to see an intact CG with minimal burn around it. The Grant Goudy Ridge (and Ice Caves) TH is open with the standard "caution burn area" sign.
Deadman-Highline Trail - The feel good story of the day! We drove down Bible Camp road to see if the trail-head sign that Preston made and posted back in 2010 made it through the fire. We hiked a bit up the trail through a hard hit area to find burn all-around the perfectly intact sign! It damn near brought a manly tear to my eye to see Preston's joy that it made it through -
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Columbine Corrals CG - From the happiest part of the day to the saddest. We parked at Columbine visitor center and hiked in across the road to the corrals. This whole area is closed including Webb Peak & Ash Creek due to high intensity burn. As stated earlier we had permission to hike a bit in. We took the trail just to where the switchbacks start down and that's about as far as you can go. Of all my trips up since the re-opening, this one punched me in the chest the hardest. I just could not believe I was looking down Ash Creek Canyon ..... black sticks as far as I could see down and on both sides of the canyon. We were told by Forest Service earlier at Cunningham that a decision was made to close and not work on Ash Creek & Frye Mesa Trail (where the fire started) for at least the next 3 years. Webb Peak is also black sticks, but was told that a loop may be re-opened next year.
Riggs Flat Lake - After Ash Creek we continued down the road through much more burn until finally reaching Riggs where the west end of the fire came to an end. We drove down to the lake that does have some minimal burn down, then through the campgrounds & ended with a nice hike around the lake on the Lakeshore Trail. Riggs Lake area for the most part was unaffected by the fire. Merrill Peak was hit on top and I'm sure the backside was too. There is a "burn" sign posted for the Jesus Babcock Trail behind the campground.
CP Flat - Finally on to the end of the road to hike CP Flat. A very needed break from fire damage with an autumn walk through Letty's Grove. I knew we were late for the golden aspen leaves up high, but just as beautiful hiking on the golden leaf road!
Blair Canyon - On the drive back out we stopped at Chesley Flat to see how Blair Canyon fared and as expected ..... not well. High burn and I'm sure Chesley Flat to Webb Peak looks the same.
Quick last stop at the Shake Trail to show Preston the red slurry covered trees at the start of the trail, this entire trail survived and is one of the very few left unaffected.

Our trip ended on the straightaway where Preston dropped me off at my truck, we said our good-bye's & I drove home still processing what I saw on top.

I have now seen the entire top of Graham and have a good understanding to the condition of the majority of the forest & trails. As stated in other logs - I am still shook, bitter & angry over this fire. The damage is much worse then I ever expected. There is still a lot of green up there and I have found a few places that still holds some un-burned beauty that will keep me looking for more. I have spent my entire life going up that mountain and this will take many years to come to peace with ..... I just hope someday I will get there.
I understand that most don't want to read about others personal hardships as I honestly don't like reading them myself. What has happened has happened and I cannot change it only move on - This will be my last log about the Frye Fire of 2017!

To close I just want to thank Preston for taking me up the mountain to view the destruction with me. Seeing it with a good friend made it more bearable. There will be many more great trips up & around Ole' Graham my friend!!!
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](*,) After an extensive search of vehicles, camping gear & home, it was determined that an item was left somewhere in the middle of the Chesley Flat Trail from our hike one week earlier ](*,)

We headed back up the mountain this morning to search by re-hiking the route starting with the Webb Peak Trail :next: Chesley Flat Trail :next: Swift Trail :next: Grant Goudy Ridge :next: Ice Caves :next: Swift Trail.
We were unsuccessful in finding the item ..... :pk:
Oh well, what we did find was a fire lookout tower, meadows full of wildflowers, raspberries, cool cave to explore, a heavy flowing waterfall, hawks & vultures in the sky, white-tail doe & 4 Abert's squirrels on the ground and a whole lot of quiet, never saw another person or vehicle on the upper mountain all day!

Learned 2 things today -
#1 loosing stuff sucks!
#2 Hiking upper Graham in August ..... Primo!
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Aug 09 2016
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Chesley Flat TrailTucson, AZ
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After packing up camp from our 2 night stay at Riggs Lake, we headed back down the mountain making our 1st stop at Chesley Flat for a hike. We first took the Blair Canyon trail down a bit to visit the spooky forest, then backtracked up and onto the Chesley Flat trail. This is one of my upper mountain fav's, lots of wildflowers & raspberries to see through the meadows on our way up to Webb Peak. Took the service road & Swift Trail back down to complete the loop.

Stop #2 was made at Solider Creek for lunch and to show the girls the "ice caves" along the Jesus Goudy Trail.
The camp hosts & locals on the mountain always send hikers to these IMO very overhyped "caves". This was my 3rd visit and the girls 1st. I guess they are worth seeing once, the granite formations in the area are very cool.
None of us were very impressed on this visit.

After the "caves", we ended our 3 day 2 night camping trip atop the Big Island with a beautiful slow drive back down the ole' Swifty. Great getaway with great people and as always a great desire to get right back up there and do it again !!!
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The meadows are full of yellow sunflowers along with other colors & raspberries.
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Jun 05 2016
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Chesley Flat TrailTucson, AZ
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We only did half of the Chesley Flat trail from Webb Peak the prior day and I wanted to do the other half to officially check it off the list. Although, I accidentally passed where we had progressed the day before and added in a little bit of an extra climb, much to Jackie's chagrin. The trail is in pretty good shape and relatively easy to follow. It is cairned well and marked with several blue ribbons. The trail could possibly get a little obscure due to tall grasses late in the summer, as you near Webb.
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As I start this, let me say that nothing IMO beats the Arizona Trail. I have tons of awesome memories from it for life. But if you want to do a long-distance trail that is truly RUGGED? More rugged than the AZT? Then get on the GET. So far I've done 11 segments of the GET, and 2 of them already have been more difficult than any segment of the AZT, solely factoring distance and elevation. That's not even considering the route finding and bushwhacking; most if not all of the segments (once the GET leaves the AZT in segment 5) have these challenges, since no one maintains the trails and they are so remote. This segment was by far no exception, with a number of miles of route finding and, in some places, fairly dense vegetation.

A few other HAZ people working on the GET wanted to go but we couldn't get the dates nailed down, so JJ and I did it. As usual, we hiked in opposite directions. Anticipating this might be a doozy, I was able to find a marathon runner friend in town (Norm) to go out and do this one with me.

Left the house at 3:30am, swapped Jeeps with JJ at 5:45 in Thatcher, and I was hiking a few minutes before 7am. There are a few places on this segment where the trail is almost gone, but by far the worst of it is in the first 12 miles. Slowed us down more than we anticipated. JJ was a monster machine, we ran into him just 10 miles into our trip. We finally reached Webb Peak at 4pm, and started the 8.5-mile descent.

Other than underestimating the route finding, Norm and I did make one crucial oversight; he didn't have the GPS track on him and we didn't have walkie talkies or anything to communicate. He and I are opposites in that he is fast on climbing elevation but slow on the downs; I'm fast on the downhills but not on the uphills. Because he didn't have a track, 2-3 times he had to wait for me to catch up to him to let him know which direction to go for a total of about an hour wasted. If he hadn't had to wait for me, I could have caught up to him going down. Then, going down I waited for him, which put us both doing the last part of this segment in the dark, and became very slow. We didn't finish until a few minutes before 8:30pm and didn't get back home until midnight.

Through this segment we saw a number of piles of bear scat, especially on the western side, and even fresh bear paw prints in the water around Ash Creek. JJ's right, the waterfalls and flows in Ash Creek were pretty awesome. We also saw tons of those balls that when you step on them, they put out green smoke. Do you know what I'm talking about? Everywhere! :)

Thanks JJ for getting us going again; it's been too long. 11 segments, 32% of mileage completed (69% of Arizona).
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Aspen groves were gorgeous.

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Oct 16 2014
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Long overdue was GET 10. We have been talking about this segment for over a year now. Scheduling conflicts always in the way. Well today Father Dave, his Friend Norm and I all met up and tackled it. We met in Thatcher at 5:45am and swapped cars. I headed up to the Eastern end and they went to the Western side of the segment.

The weather was brisk but not cold as I headed up Ash Creek. In about 5 miles I came to an overlook of a waterfall. It was spectacular! Maybe 100' or more? The sound of the water raging down was awesome and it was a sight for sure. After a brief viewing I continued on up the arduous slope. Several stream crossings were successful without getting wet. Upon reaching the top of the Ash Creek Trail I realized I had just gained over 5000' of gain in the first 9 miles! Wow good thing I ate my Wheaties.

After that I checked out Webb Peak and then continued on my journey. I would say the Clark Trail with it's killer views and the Ash Creek Trail are the show stoppers on this one. Actually I would say this is the best of the Passages I have completed so far.

My only complaint is that darned route finding section on the Johns Canyon Trail. It was a pain in the pumpkin. Especially trying to follow the "Official" GPS track which is map drawn. The track served as a guide I suppose as did the blue flags when and where I could find them. If that section was easily navigable I would give the GET 10 a solid 5 stars. Throw that in the mix and I still give it 4 stars.
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Aug 12 2014
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Last year I hiked this loop stopping at the big "Fort Grant overlook" and set up a fire ring with plans of returning the following week to camp at the spot for a night. One year later on this trip, I made it back and as a very nice bonus, I brought along my Roper Lake SP girls (Addie & Lauren).

Day 1 - We arrived at Grant Hill in the mid afternoon and chose the counter clockwise route for the quickest time to the site as the light was gonna get low soon on this south side of the mountain. My fire ring was still intact, had been used since last year, but was set up nicely with firewood for a new night. We set up camp, gathered more firewood & settled in to our amazing overlook site under the supermoon. Fire, conversation, laughs and awesome night views of Fort Grant below with light monsoon storms hitting the valleys & mountains in the southern distance. Twas a most wonderful night with friends that ended at 4am. I settled into my sleeping bag with 50deg temps and a gentle wind through the pines excited about the next day!

Day 2 - Awoke after 4 hours of sleep, had an energy shooter for breakfast, broke camp and then completed the rest of Grant Hill Loop. We then switched the backpacks for day packs and drove up to Columbine for the days hike. Light rain started to fall as we made our way down the Ash Creek trail, but ended by the time we made it down to the boiler/Webb Peak Y. The Ash Creek trail looked amazing, would have loved to continue down to the falls but Webb Peak was the destination for the day, Ash Creek ..... see ya next week!!!
The highlight of the climb to Webb came half way up when we watched a big black bear race through the forest just before we entered the meadow he was in. We sucked wind the rest of the way up to the peak and rested under the fire lookout tower at just over 10,000ft.
From Webb we then took the Chesley Flat trail down to the Swift Trail. The Chesley Flat section was my fav for the day, just a beautiful hike through sunflower filled meadows that I could have went back & forth through all day!
We then walked the Swift Trail back to Columbine completing a wonderful Loop.

The monsoons have hit the Pinalenos well this year. The big island is green, green, green. Water flowing down every creek and drainage, rainbow of flowers on every trail and yellow sunflowers fill every meadow. Wildlife spotted on our 2 day trip - Black bear, 14 white-tail deer, 4 Aberts squirrel and many vultures & hawks above.

I'll remember this one for years, can't wait for our "finale" next week!!!
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Yellow mountain sunflowers across every meadow, many other colors along the trails & a good variety of mushrooms in the low light sections.

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Recent rains had the falls along the Swift Trail pullout flowing about as good as I've ever seen it!
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Jun 10 2014
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Chesley Flat TrailTucson, AZ
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This was a new trail for us. It wasn't on our old maps, but thanks to HAZ we found a nice little trail.

We left the valley around 7am and arrived in the Columbine Corrals parking lot at 8:20. The air was cool and the sky was such a deep blue. It's great to get above the dusty cloud carpeting the valley. Four of us and the dog struck out for the Webb Peak summit and quickly found ourselves at the top. A group from the Green Valley Hiking Club were there, and we had a nice visit with a gentleman from that group while he waited for others in his group to explore the fire tower. After there decent, they headed down towards Ash Creek Trail. They have a real hike before them today. There are 82 deadfalls over that section of trail. We took a few moments for two of our group to take in the views from the top of the tower. (Sorry, heights are not my thing...I've been up in the tower once, so I guess I can say, "Been there, done that.")

Soon we were off down the service road to find the Chesley Flat Trail. It was not well marked, and we missed it because we were having a great time looking at the turkey, deer, bear, and cat tracks. The road has been recently graded, and the soft silt on the top was perfect for preserving tracks. We marveled at the detail in the bear track. We could really see the folds and wrinkles in the foot pad. Since the area has experienced light afternoon winds this week, these tracks had to be laid down in the last 24 hours. (Which is supported later in the day.)

We quickly realized we missed the trail and back tracked to find it where the grader had cut a drainage ditch near an open meadow. The trail was marked with blue plastic tape farther in. We left a white tape hanging on a small aspen at the edge of the road.

We passed through the edge of the fire zone and then back into the forest. This section has been subjected to several fires in the last century. In 1970, I remember exploring the area. Signs of a much earlier fire were visible Then in 1973, another fire passed through the area. The blackened remains of these earlier forest fires stand like sentinels in the meadow. It was making a great return when the Nuttal fire passed through in 2004.

The trail is a bit overgrown, and there are a number of deadfalls but nothing too difficult to negotiate over or around. The trail wasn't difficult to locate, but we left a few more white tapes along the way to help out. Most of the trail is under the firs and pines, so the hike was very pleasant. Time passed quickly, and we soon found ourselves at the Blair Canyon trailhead, and then a few yards later we were out at Chesley Flat.

The day was early, so we decided to do some more hiking. But first the guys headed down the road to retrieve our vehicle, and the ladies moved off toward the road into Grandview Peak. And wouldn't you know...as the guys drove back towards Chesley Flat, lumbering down the road was a Black Bear!

This was a great hike...a few miles under your feet and wildlife to see. (Even though I didn't get to see the bear, we later found a deer feeding in the forest and spent several minutes watching and photographing her before she decided to scamper off into the forest.)
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Oct 29 2012
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Half day trip on top of Graham with the 10,000 ft Webb Peak fire lookout tower being the main attraction for this hike. Started the loop from the Columbine corrals by first taking the Ash Creek trail down -

ASH CREEK - Still a lot of deadfall along the first .5 miles down to the boiler and Webb Peak spur. All of the aspens have dropped their leaves along this section.

WEBB PEAK - Took the spur around and up to the peak. There is now a short locked fence around the first segment of the fire lookout ladder, but is easy to climb up over. There was no sign telling you not to do this like Heliograph Peak has, so I climbed up half way before strong wind gusts forced me back down. Not sure if the tower box has been locked up too. I then took the service road down and jumped on the Chesley Flat trail just off the road.

CHESLEY FLAT - Favorite trail of the day! Half of this trail goes through an old burn, but has a cool look to it and some good expansive views to the north. Found a few nice golden aspens along the way before taking a short side trip down Blair Canyon.

BLAIR CANYON - The HAZ Yeti showed me this trail last year and I decided to revisit just the first .75 miles of this dark, cold & spooky canyon. The entire trail down was completely covered in aspen litter and I will have to put this one on next years autumn list!

SWIFT TRAIL - I then completed the loop by walking the Swift Trail (Hwy 366) back to Columbine. I'm often asked "what is the best trail in the Pinalenos?" and I always answer - It's the road that takes you up there, the Swift Trail!!!

MOONSHINE - Before leaving the mountain, I made a short stop on the drive back down and hiked the out-n-back to the very scenic Moonshine overlook.

AUTUMN OBSERVATION - Disappointing, but expected. I knew going up this year that the colors were going to be below average. There were some good patches of color, but most looked dull & flat instead of the crisp & vibrant colors of the past. I believe that the intense summer heat we had this year had a lot to do with this. I still have high hopes for some of the lower canyons which are just now starting to "peak"!

Although the fall colors were disappointing, my main goal on this trip was to visit Webb Peak and I thoroughly enjoyed all of the trails I used to complete this loop!
With the top of Graham set to close Nov 15 for the winter, this was probably my last trip to the top for 2012 and what an awesome year it was!!!
Many thanks to the Blam & Yeti for the good times shared up high this year on my favorite hill! :D
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preston and i have been talking about this hike for years and it seemed like the appropriate time to finally do it. i nicely invited bob (like i always do) and met the boys at the turn off for swift trail. i downed my mylanta and up we went...

...into the awesomeness of the pinaleno high country on many wonderful trails and off trail hiking through parts unknown, seeing magnificent sights, struggling through the elevation gain and randomly taking turns falling, and generally having an outstanding time of it. at one point, the yeti stood on the edge and thundered a wail of achievement...

this is a hike to remember and turned out even more awesome than i would have ever thought. perfect day on some epic trails in some special mountains with some good dudes. how can it get better than that? :y:
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My introduction into the Pinalenos was by His Yetiness. I met Preston at his house just after 630am. I woke up at 2am after a tough Friday. I took a hard fall running and then I part of an Honor Guard and had to stand and march. I left my house at 315 and I was off and making good time. The paparazzi finally snapped one photo :x .

We met Mr. Mean at 645am and immediately started throwing rocks at me.

On the ride over, Preston told me about how he made Nick sick the last time they drove this road :scared: .

Then we gathered a variety of firewood and we were off.

Preston's triplog gives all the details....but being the nice guy he is...there is no mention of my constant whining on the way back and over to Webb. All-in-All a great intro into the Pinalenos and great company...even you Nick ;)....
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May 07 2011
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After being on our "to-do" list for years, we decided it was time to do the ultimate Pinaleno hike. Nick, Bob, and I met at the Swift Trail turnoff early Saturday morning, and began the twisting, climbing journey up into the Pinaleno Mountains. We parked Nick's ride at Chesley Flat, then shuttled over to Hospital Flat in my truck. The three of us quickly disappeared into the pleasantly cool forest on the Big Creek Trail.

Near the end of the Big Creek Trail we changed course, and began a lengthy off trail hike into wild country, following the tracks of what must have been an enormous bear. The scenery and the views of the desert valleys far below were spectacular. After a frightening traverse along the top of a rocky canyon, we emerged from our off trail journey and stumbled onto the Deadman-Highline Trail. We enjoyed an incredible view from a rocky overlook, and then headed downhill among the tall trees to enjoy a well deserved lunch break. Our adventure thus far had been a tough and tiring one, but there was still a long ways to go, so on we went.

Arriving at the bottom of the Deadman-Highline Trail, we turned and followed Forest Road 508 (Bible Camp Road) back up to the Swift Trail, enjoying the sights and the easier travel. Next, we headed north, onto the Ash Creek Trail. Spring was just beginning along Ash Creek, and skunk cabbage plants were sprouting. At the old boiler, we hung a left onto the Webb Peak Trail.

Being the first high altitude hike of the year for the three of us, we were breathing hard. The north slope of Webb Peak still held a few patches of snow despite the extremely dry winter. The summit of Webb Peak brought an end to the climbing, and we enjoyed the view from the fire tower in the chilly wind. A lone hiker soon approached the tower. "That looks a bit like AZWaterRat", I thought. It was. We talked for a few minutes then went our separate ways.

The last leg of our journey took us down the Chesley Flat Trail, among grassy mountain top meadows, and through dense spruce-fir forest. Our grand tour ended at the always picturesque Chesley Flat, where we climbed into Nick's truck. Nick drove us back to my truck, and we began the journey home.

Thanks for making the long drive out to the Pinalenos, guys. It was a great adventure as always! :)
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May 07 2011
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Drove up & around to the backside of Graham for an overnight camp/hike trip with no real destination in mind and after driving out to Riggs Lake and then back down the Swift Trail, I decided on the Chesley Flat trail for the day. Arrived at the flat to find a vehicle parked at the TH with a HAZ decal and thought there was a good chance I was going to meet some HAZ'ers on this hike, and I did. Headed up the trail and in short time I arrived at the lookout tower atop Webb Peak where I met Bob & Nick for the first time and Preston for the 2nd. The 4 of us chatted for a few minutes before going our seperate ways, I then continued down the Webb Peak trail to the Columbine CG and across the Swift trail to the big meadow behind the info center before returning back to Chesley Flat. The plan then was to find a campsite for the night but, unexpected truck problems forced me back down the mountain and to town.

I was a little upset to have to cut my trip short but, I had a very pleasant stroll through the forest and it was nice to finally meet some other HAZ members!
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After reading that the Chesley Flat Trail had been reworked this year by trail crews, it seemed like a fitting hike for today, as I hadn't hiked it in 4 years, and the dirt road portion of the Swift Trail closes until April 15 beginning tomorrow. I left Chesley Flat at 4 pm, and was delighted to discover the Chesley Flat Trail to be in perfect shape. No difficulties in following the trail now. With temperatures hovering just below freezing and a stiff breeze blowing, I was glad to be wearing pants, fleece sweatshirt, gloves and a hat upon arrival at the summit of Webb Peak. I climbed the new(!) stairs of the fire tower for a view, then descended the short branch of the Webb Peak trail to the Ash Creek trailhead. A quick turnaround and I was at Webb's summit again at dusk. I made the hike back down Chesley by headlamp, and wasted no time in hiking away from the junction with the unsettlingly spooky Blair Canyon Trail. I didn't see another vehicle on the entire drive down. I liked that.
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Aka "Ode to More Moderate Temperatures"...


Friday August 13, 2010 - Hell Hole/Grandview Peak
Plan to escape 110 degree plus Valley temperatures by noon was thwarted by never ending work meetings. I did get on the road by 2:30pm sans co-adventurers. Stop off at Gold Canyon Basha's to strike off those last few items on the camp shopping list and a quick text to Preston Sands to let him know I'll be passing through Safford later than planned. Turned onto the Swift Trail a little before 6pm and I'm getting concerned about waning daylight => I hate setting up camp in the dark! Now the mental checklist to find that primo camp site courtesy of Mr. Sands;
o Pass the "Restricted Access" driveway heading to the Telescope on Mt. Graham at 10,720 ft. More at http://www.eac.edu/DISCOVERYPARK/mgio.shtm and http://mgpc3.as.arizona.edu/Orientation.pdf Maybe a future tour?
o Pass the entrance to Old Columbine, then Columbine Corrals Fee Campground/Ash Creek TH and Visitor Center
o Pass Soldier Creek Fee Campgrounds
o Pass Large Rocks undeveloped recreation area
o Pass Chesley Flat TH
o First right turn after Chesley Flat should be the FR to Hell Hole and Grand View Point...
I make the turn off the Swift Trail onto the FR and gun my F-150 through a couple of mud holes. As I climb up to a saddle I spot a choice "at large" campsite on the right. The FR makes a sharp bend just beyond the campsite and a plunge down into what I presume is Hell Hole. I'm intimidated by the dark and a healthy expanse of water covering the road. So Camp Schulhauser is established on the Hell Hole Saddle => See GPS map 32.71462degN, 109.94670degW. Nice clearing provides a spectacular view of the star filled skies including the Milky Way. The Forest Service has been actively thinning the forest near the camp site making for an endless supply of fire wood. Set up the tent to the glow of F-150 headlights and fire up the propane BBQ => T-bone, mushrooms and baked potato on tonight's menu. Half a beer into my meal and I feel a headache coming on. What gives? My body altimeter has always been triggered at 10,000 feet in the past (a quick look at the GPS say 9,337 ft). Total silence grips the night only to be punctuated by a couple of hooting owls. I take a midnight stroll along the FR towards Grand View Point...

Saturday August 14, 2010 - Chesley Flat Trail, Blair Canyon Trail, Webb Peak via Soldier Creek, Webb Peak Trail, Ash Creek Trail

Rise with the sun and check the time on my cell phone => 5:38am. Grill up some bacon and eggs for breakfast, dead-out the campfire and head over to Chesley Flat.
Chesley Flat Trail => Explore the meadow and old corral. I'm unable to locate the foundations of the old Chesley homestead => http://hikearizona.com/photo.php?ZIP=36102 Undeterred, I spot the trail heading east into the forest. Lot's of downed trees as I approach the Blair Canyon Trail junction. A quick trek down this trail doesn't grab my interest, so it's back up to the Chesley Flat Trail and a steady climb towards a burned zone (remnants of the 2004 Nuttall Fire per Preston's hike description). The burned zone has been reclaimed by a riot of wildflowers => Western Sneezeweed, Western Dayflower, Richardson's Geranium standout... I follow the fire line gazing up for the Webb Peak lookout tower. The hike description warns about the trail disappearing at this point. Wandering some more without spotting the lookout tower, I decide to retrace my path back to the TH (more on this later...).
Webb Peak via Soldier Creek => Forest Service and locals have their chain saws and axes chopping up firewood at the FR88 TH. No room to park at the TH, so I pull my F-150 over to the side of Swift Trail. The ascent up the service road to Webb Peak is reminiscent of the lower sections of the Weatherford Trail. As I round a bend near the upper reaches, both the lookout tower and the upper Chesley Flat TH come into view. I head down the Chesley Flat Trail and think I spot where I gave up on the ascent up the trail. I turn back and head up to the lookout tower. View from this vantage is jaw-dropping.
Webb Peak Trail => After lingering in the lookout tower, time to make a decent down the eastern slopes towards Ash Creek Trail. I meet my first hikers of the day, a couple of adults leading about a dozen tweeners. Let's just say the tweeners all looked like they wanted to do anything but climb Webb Peak...
Ash Creek Trail #307 => This has got to be one of the best "escape the summer heat" trails in Arizona. Amble past the sawmill remnants to the slick rock and on to the falls. Everything is green, green, green! The trek back up to the TH works up a good sweat. As I approach the TH and Columbine Corrals Fee Campground, I see "tent city". All the campsites are occupied and full of activity. Quite the contrast to my Hell Hole Saddle "at large" campsite...
I follow the Swift Trail back to my parked F-150 and amble back to Camp Schulhauser about 4:30pm. I'm wiped. Sit back in a camp chair and us the opportunity to finish off Man Corn => viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5356&p=57762&hilit=man+corn#p57762

Sunday August 15, 2010 - Deadman-Highline Trail

I awake at dawn, fix some breakfast and begin to break camp waiting on the arrival of Mr. Sands. On cue, I hear a vehicle splashing through some mud holes. It's Preston. Finish packing, dead-out the firepit and it's off to DHT. We trek up the switchbacks into the "gray zone" that is Mt. Graham. Another sweet trail worthy of the 5-rating...
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FYI- Didn't hike here, but passed the start (end?) of the trail at the top of Webb Peak and there's a sign indicating the trail is closed. Was not able to confirm/deny with forest ranger the next day, but be advised of the sign as of 6/26/07. There's a photo of the sign in my photoset from the Webb Peak trail.
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No one at the local forest service office knew anything about this trail (not even it's name-it seems to have been forgotten), so on a cool fall afternoon, I decided to check it out. A lot of aspens and spruce trees along this trail, with grassy meadows thrown in as a bonus. It's weird to think that I live in the desert only 10 miles away!
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