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Riggs - Clark - Cunningham - Webb - Ice Cave, AZ 
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Day two n the Pinalenos. Drove to Riggs Lake to get started. Hiked around the lake then up to Clark Peak. Nice hiking and views.
We then drove to do the Cunningham Loop. We didn't realize a big chunk had gone unmaintained since the fire. We took the path of least resistance and completed a nice loop anyway.
Next up was Webb Peak. Finally, after hanging out in camp a few hours, we headed out to the infamous ice caves. We found a few caves, lost a phone for a bit, and made it back in one piece. Big day! :)
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day two in the pinalenos
coffee and breakfast, then we drove up to riggs lake
bruce had a loop that took off from the west side of riggs flat lake, then some off trail and forest service roads to clark peak trail
a little brushy but not the locust fest we were warned about
decent views from the peak
returned to the east side of the lake via forest service roads
next up was cunningham loop
we started off counterclockwise on the loop, which was along an old roadbed
at two miles, we found that the connection with the southeast loop was pretty much obliterated
one climb to a higher roadbed as we finished the western portion of the loop
nice hike with good views below
lots of slash piles, some right on the trail
had plenty of time to do the webb peak loop
the tower is still there, but just the steel framework remains of the lookout
finished via the road
a stop at the visitor center, then hung out at camp for awhile
late afternoon trip to try and find the ice caves
we found one that john and i had been to eight years ago, then scrambled around the hillside looking for more
noticed i no longer had my phone in my pocket, which was a bit stressful
bruce was able to call my phone, and we could hear it as i retraced the route i had taken
found it sitting on top of a boulder, thank goodness
backpacker meals for dinner and another fire made for a nice evening
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Riggs - Clark - Cunningham - Webb - Ice Cave, AZ 
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Riggs Lakeshore Trail #340

We started our day around 7:30 a.m. at Riggs Lake. It was my first time there, and it’s a pretty little lake. There were a few fishermen and kids wandering from their campsites, beginning to stir for the day. Heading clockwise, we followed a use trail to a two-track road and ultimately reached the Clarke Peak Trailhead.

Clark Peak

John's girlfriend Denise at the Columbine Visitor Center had warned us that this trail was terribly overgrown with locust trees and not worth hiking. However, we weren’t in the listening mood and decided to give it a try anyway. The rumors of locusts were highly exaggerated. John and Kelly both hiked in shorts and short sleeves with little to no bloodshed. The trail is tight in spots, and there are multiple paths heading up the mountain. This is a worthwhile trail to explore when in the Riggs Lake area.

CP Flat Loop

This loop is located entirely on the far western section of the Swift Trail and 4x4 road. It’s mainly wooded, with some impressive views along the Swift.

Cunningham Loop Trail #316

Next up was the official loop found here. Starting from the Cunningham Campground parking lot, we made our way around counterclockwise to the intersection with the "Lower" portion of the loop. Evidence of the fire was abundant, but not everything had been torched. A significant amount of work has been done to open this portion of the loop. There are literally hundreds of slash piles stacked along sections of the trail. At about the 2-mile mark, we reached the intersection with the "Lower" Trail. Things changed quickly; this section is a warzone. We aborted our attempt there and opted to complete just the "Upper" portion. Later, while talking with a volunteer at the visitor center, we learned that the lower portion was severely damaged by the Frye Fire and may never be rebuilt.

Webb Peak Loop via Columbine TH

Since we had some extra time, we decided to do this loop. Starting from the Columbine Trailhead, we headed uphill through the burn area and the now 2-foot tall aspen. The fire tower still stands but is charred. We continued down the lookout road and back to the parking area, where John made another new friend. He thought he’d have her eating out of his hand with his sweet-talking, but she had no part of it.

Ice Cave

We returned to camp for a bit, had some lunch, relaxed, and then set out in search of the "Ice Cave."

It was just a short walk from our campsite. Kelly had a waypoint, and I had a waypoint from an online search, so we wandered about looking for other possibilities. We found three potential sites.

The first was easy to find, just about 50 feet into the mountain, but I didn't think it was the right one.

The second one, John descended into a bit before the bats chased him out. This cave dropped straight down pretty steeply, and I ultimately believe this is the one we were looking for.

The third cave was a bit more adventurous to reach. Kelly, John, and I took two different routes through the boulder fields, searching for possibilities. I found one that you could enter, which contained at least one large room measuring approximately 20 by 20 feet.

While Kelly was making her way over to us through the mass of boulders, we heard a “Oh Schmidt!” (or something like that). She’d lost her phone somewhere, and it could have been anywhere, including 50 feet straight down among the boulders. John tried calling it, but we heard nothing. We all worked our way back to where she’d come from. I tried calling it, and BINGO—we heard it! She was lucky to find it sitting right on top of a rock.
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Today we decided on just a slow roll up the mountain and kick back day at the lake.
We ended up completing 2+ laps around the Lakeshore Trail so I guess a little hiking too.
Rest of the day included a little fishing, overlook sightseeing, a visit with the CG host and R&R
Got some good pics and video of the Bald Eagles in the nest and flying around the lake.
Also spotted were many white tails, Abert's squirrels and one beautiful Boxer.
We then slow rolled it back down the big island with a couple of CG stops to visit friends.
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Overnight camp with Jayden high on Graham.

Monday - Arrived at Riggs Lake in the AM and right away got our lines in the water for dinner. Holy smokes we caught our limit of rainbows (8) in under a 1/2 hour ... the fishing was GOOD!
We then set up our campsite (#16) and hiked the Lakeshore Trail followed by a hammock rest. At sunset we built our campfire and had dinner. Later into the night we made our way down to the lake shore to take in the endless stars on the moonless night ... wow!
Day 1 ended back at the campfire with conversation, laughs and bed.

Tuesday - Awoke early to a nice 50 degree morning. Packed up camp and headed out to the end of the Swift Trail for the hike of the day. We looped CP counter-clock, always a nice little hike through the aspens. Leaves are just starting to come in. After hike plan was to just slow roll our way back down the mountain taking our time with stops at Solider Creek, Treasure Park, Arcadia & RTM campgrounds.

Good overnight with a great friend on an Awesome mountain!
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Riggs Flat CampgroundTucson, AZ
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First overnighter of the year - delayed by about a month due to Covid closures, and much-needed.
Campground and lake day-use were busier than I've ever seen on a weekday, as expected ... but not as bad as I feared. Campground was probably 3/4 full by nightfall, but everyone respected the group area closure and fire ban. There were two huge caliber gunshots about 15 minutes apart that rang out from somewhere beyond the lake and echoed through the campground right around dark - is it hunting season for something? Bear, maybe - or elephant, judging by the cannon this hunter was using?! :-k :lol:
Did five or six small hikes around lake and campground and beyond. I love that despite the heavy use of the area, I can walk for a few minutes in any direction and get to beautiful, quiet places and see no one.
It was reasonably quiet at bedtime - and so nice not to be inundated with campfire smoke, and I slept well! Heard Mexican Whip-poor-wills and Spotted Owls.
As per usual up here, the birds woke me as soon as the sky started to lighten at 4:30, and I was up for good at 5:30 ... enjoyed my coffee with one of the most enthusiastic and varied dawn bird choruses that I've heard anywhere.
First morning hike led me to a lovely encounter with my first Twin-spotted Rattlesnake! I was hiking along the ridgeline behind the campground, and paused for a moment to enjoy the sun when I heard the smallest, gentlest little "rattle" - more like a greeting than a warning ... the snake was about a foot long, and three feet away - I stood and watched it go about it's snakey business for a couple minutes until it went around a boulder. What a sweetie.
Second morning hike was up the drainage of the inlet creek. I wasn't planning on going too far - but got cut even shorter when I came across a black bear ... I heard movement a little ways uphill to my right, then the very clear sound of bear "huffing" - twice ... caught a glimpse of said bear over my shoulder as I vacated the area! :lol:
Very refreshing, relaxing quick getaway ... always grateful to have this place.
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Chose site #6 for my overnight stay.
Only 2 other parties camping.
Campground & lake looked great, as it always does!
Cold, cold morning getting up, I'd say bout 35
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Spent a night above the lake. Did a loop, out to the viewpoint for sunset, and a couple of trips across the dam to the campground. Lots of people fishing, including a GFD officer checking permits. Other campers reported a bear sighting on the dam about 100 yards from my camp. I buttoned up camp overnight but saw no signs of activity. A few light showers overnight were pleasant.
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Enjoyed my time at Riggs so much last week that I decided to do it again.
Less people occupying campsites on the way up this time.
Checked with camp host Jan about "problem" bear situation and she said it hadn't been back - G&F bear trap was gone, too.
Brought my tent this time so I could use site #31, and I enjoyed it as much as I thought I would. No one else in the walk-in area, and not too many people passing by/fishing nearby either. 35 steps from campsite to lakeshore. The flies were less than last week, and the mammals and birds were more numerous.
After setting up and relaxing a bit, and a couple of drinks, I decided to tackle Merrill Peak first. Last week I had made it halfway up from the West without even trying to, then I realized that it was too hot to be climbing uphill, over deadfall, in the direct sun in the middle of the afternoon.
This time I started up the shallow drainage at the end/beginning of the campground loop road. I only stayed in or along the drainage for maybe 10 minutes, then hung a right uphill more or less directly towards the Peak. Still a little steep, but much better from this side with some shade and without doing the deadfall hurdles. Saw some trees sporting their bark beetle repellent patches.
Reached the top and had a nice break - no sign of a summit log.
Since the lake was right below I decided to head pretty much straight down to it - route worked out great, but I probably wouldn't use it going uphill. It had taken me about 45 minutes to get up to the Peak, but with the quick way down I popped out on the loop road after only 15 minutes!
Then I got delayed another 20 or so talking with Jan. Nice lady, but if you start a conversation with her make sure you have a while. While chatting with her, Clay the "reptile guy" stopped by to report that he'd caught a couple trout (they haven't been stocked this summer, so no one is catching much). Second week in a row up at Riggs that I got a "hey, I know you" ... turns out I met Clay last May at Aravaipa Canyon and hiked with him from the 2WD trailhead to the Turkey Creek th.
Had a nice long read (finally finished my designated camp book of the past few trips, "Women of the Grand Canyon" highly recommend!) and then a great night's sleep. Definitely a few interesting sounds in the night, but nothing that kept me awake. The birds got busy at the first lightening of the sky and woke me up at 4:30! Got one more hour of sleep before I was up for good.
Nice to have real breakfast and hot coffee this time - last time my stove refused to work, which turned out to be due to a dud fuel canister.
Soon I was ready to head off on the CP Flat Loop - parked at the CP corral/campground and began looping.
Such a great little hike! Obviously stellar in the Fall, but hey Aspens are pretty in the Summer too! Love the tree tunnel parts and the meadows. Saw one deer in the last/biggest meadow. Took a nice break at the awesome campsite there.
Back at camp by 9am for second breakfast, and the birding got good. Saw Yellow-rumped "Audubons" Warbler, Red-faced Warblers (including the most adorable fledgling who just looked so happy and pleased with herself to be hopping around the trees and trying to catch her own bugs), Hairy Woodpecker, Red-shafted Flicker, Stellar Jays, Yellow-eyed Juncos, and of course Robins (cute fledgling/juvenile here too). Also saw deer a couple different times.
Final hike was the Lakeshore loop, with trashbag ... since I just did it a week ago, it wasn't so bad and the bag was only half full.
Final fun bird on the drive down - an unexpected Turkey crossed the road in front of me (then crossed right back again after I passed) near the Jesus Goudy camping area.
Last few miles of the downhill were spent following someone who apparently doesn't know about downshifting and using your gears properly, so I was treated to the smell of burning brakes.
Another fine 24 on the Mountain! :)
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After all the day trips up the mountain in the past couple of years, I finally decided to spend a night - mainly because I couldn't think of any other place within two hours' drive that would be as high/cool. Worked out great with highs around 85 and lows 55 - can't really ask for better than that in Arizona on Summer Solstice!
Hiked the Lakeshore loop three times, and spent many more hours wandering aimlessly and joyously through the woods around the campground.
I ended up at Riggs after checking several other campgrounds and dispersed areas on the way up - they were all too populated (Soldier Creek) or too scorched (Cunningham) to appeal to me, so I just kept going ... I knew Riggs would be green and beautiful - and was pleasantly surprised to find it uncrowded. Despite one area of the campground being taped off/closed (I assumed for tree work or something), the few groups of campers were all clustered around one area, so by driving to the end of the loop I got a site where I could neither see nor hear anyone else. Perfect. Next time I will bring my tent instead of using the CRV camper since the walk-in sites are so great, with that lake view! #31 is the closest and best lake view, but #29 or any around there are also great - and that whole area was completely empty!
I noticed more bear warnings posted around than usual - the sign on the bathroom door said sightings were "numerous", but it was "just bears doing bear thing so far". Pretty soon a Game & Fish guy rolled up to the campsite and started to talk about the bears, before stopping himself with "I know you - where do I know you from?". After we got that sorted out, he told me to be on the lookout - and that he had a bear trap set (see pic), which is why that section of campground was closed.
Maybe an hour and a half later I was back at camp and this time a Forest Service LE ranger stopped to talk about the bears - he glanced at my site and upon seeing no tent, he nodded towards my hammock and said (in a slightly alarmed tone) "You're not going to sleep in THAT are you?" :lol: I replied no, but pointed out that a tent doesn't really offer any protection either - he laughed and agreed "just psychological". Said he would feel like a big hotdog sleeping in the hammock, though. :lol:
Eventually I was visited by Jan, the sweet camphost, and she's the one who actually told me what all the fuss was about - seems they have a bear (she even gave me a detailed description, which I thought was cute) who has "lost it's fear" and has been bluff charging people when they see him and try to make noise and scare him away. :scared: Anyhow, I didn't see a bear - or even any bear sign in all my wanderings, and the trap was still empty the next afternoon when I left.
Only annoyance was the flies and other bugs - they laughed at my natural bug repellent, but the DEET helped for a while. Just about a perfect 27 hours on the mountain.
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I decided it was finally time for me to have a look at the Pinaleno Mountains after last year's big fire. Camped at the lake, which was typically busy for a Friday (lots more people Saturday as I was leaving the mountain). I did some hiking Saturday morning after packing up the gear. My reaction to the post fire scenes is that it wasn't too bad up there overall. I actually expected things to look worse, so I was pleasantly surprised by what I saw.

Final thought: I guess we are all "desperados waiting for the rain" these days.
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Chumley put together this out and back over to Clark Peak and Riggs Lake. Starting from camp we had to drop 1300 feet to Taylor Pass before then gaining 2000 feet up to Clark Peak. The peak is off trail but not by much and very easy to bag this peak from the trail. After the peak we kept hiking on the trail towards Riggs Lake with great views on the ridge classic Sky Island hiking! Eventually we made it to Chesley Flat trailhead and followed the road to Riggs Lake. Of course being a holiday weekend there were many people there enjoying the lake. But we found a nice grassy spot to enjoy lunch and relax before heading back.


On the way back it felt like a different hike even though it was the same trail. The trail is in great shape so we cruised back enjoying the views heading the opposite direction. Several fern meadows along the way followed by the steep drop back down to Taylor Pass. Then back up 1300 feet to camp to finish off the day hike.
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The real purpose of our quick overnight to the Pinalenos was my desire to hike the Clark Peak Trail between Riggs and West. Having seen it from West Peak on a couple of previous trips it just appeared intriguing to me.

Previous trip reports seemed to indicate some route finding issues, but we had little problem keeping on the tread the whole way. The little attention it took to follow the route made it more interesting and enjoyable for me. I enjoy the "challenge" of finding/following old or little-used trails.

We encountered another couple about 1/4 mile from the Chesley Flat trailhead, but otherwise, not a soul except for those at Riggs Lake where we took a nice break in the grass along the shore. I had only carried two liters of water so I was a little disappointed to learn that the water at the campground was turned off. I filtered an extra half liter from the lake but ended up not needing it anyway.

It looks like there are a few old and underused trails out at this end of the range, and since the other side is a crisp fritter, I might need to check some of these others out.

It was a solid day, and I really, really enjoyed this trail for variety, views, and solitude. A real winner in my book!
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My final trip up to the top of Graham to survey the damage left from the Frye Fire before the November 15th winter closure. I met up with Preston and together we headed up the mountain as we have done so many times before. Plan was to survey as many sites as we could and also get in a hike at the end of the Swift Trail. We drove the entire road to it's end and this is what we saw & know .....

We first stopped on the way up for a quick trek up "secret canyon" for some fall colors, looked good and is only gonna get better. A return trip up will be made soon.
Second stop up was made at Ladybug Saddle to show Preston where & how I dislocated my shoulder last week, I was in need of some sympathy.
Then around to the backside/top and into the burn -

Snow Flat - Road down to the CG hit with med intensity burn, campground unaffected and beautiful.
Treasure Park CG - Road down med burn, meadow and CG mostly unaffected and beautiful, the "back" CG hit hard and now gated with "forest closed" sign.
Cunningham CG - Intact, but high burn all around CG. The trail-head for Grant Creek & Moonshine has "closed forest" sign. We could see golden aspens down in Moonshine and a later overlook view showed that lower Grant Creek from Ft Grant TH was unaffected, the upper trail has burned. At Cunningham we talked with a high up Forest Service employee who gave up permission to hike a bit into Ash Creek for a look a little further up the road.
Soldier Creek CG - One of my favorites and I was very happy to see an intact CG with minimal burn around it. The Grant Goudy Ridge (and Ice Caves) TH is open with the standard "caution burn area" sign.
Deadman-Highline Trail - The feel good story of the day! We drove down Bible Camp road to see if the trail-head sign that Preston made and posted back in 2010 made it through the fire. We hiked a bit up the trail through a hard hit area to find burn all-around the perfectly intact sign! It damn near brought a manly tear to my eye to see Preston's joy that it made it through -
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Columbine Corrals CG - From the happiest part of the day to the saddest. We parked at Columbine visitor center and hiked in across the road to the corrals. This whole area is closed including Webb Peak & Ash Creek due to high intensity burn. As stated earlier we had permission to hike a bit in. We took the trail just to where the switchbacks start down and that's about as far as you can go. Of all my trips up since the re-opening, this one punched me in the chest the hardest. I just could not believe I was looking down Ash Creek Canyon ..... black sticks as far as I could see down and on both sides of the canyon. We were told by Forest Service earlier at Cunningham that a decision was made to close and not work on Ash Creek & Frye Mesa Trail (where the fire started) for at least the next 3 years. Webb Peak is also black sticks, but was told that a loop may be re-opened next year.
Riggs Flat Lake - After Ash Creek we continued down the road through much more burn until finally reaching Riggs where the west end of the fire came to an end. We drove down to the lake that does have some minimal burn down, then through the campgrounds & ended with a nice hike around the lake on the Lakeshore Trail. Riggs Lake area for the most part was unaffected by the fire. Merrill Peak was hit on top and I'm sure the backside was too. There is a "burn" sign posted for the Jesus Babcock Trail behind the campground.
CP Flat - Finally on to the end of the road to hike CP Flat. A very needed break from fire damage with an autumn walk through Letty's Grove. I knew we were late for the golden aspen leaves up high, but just as beautiful hiking on the golden leaf road!
Blair Canyon - On the drive back out we stopped at Chesley Flat to see how Blair Canyon fared and as expected ..... not well. High burn and I'm sure Chesley Flat to Webb Peak looks the same.
Quick last stop at the Shake Trail to show Preston the red slurry covered trees at the start of the trail, this entire trail survived and is one of the very few left unaffected.

Our trip ended on the straightaway where Preston dropped me off at my truck, we said our good-bye's & I drove home still processing what I saw on top.

I have now seen the entire top of Graham and have a good understanding to the condition of the majority of the forest & trails. As stated in other logs - I am still shook, bitter & angry over this fire. The damage is much worse then I ever expected. There is still a lot of green up there and I have found a few places that still holds some un-burned beauty that will keep me looking for more. I have spent my entire life going up that mountain and this will take many years to come to peace with ..... I just hope someday I will get there.
I understand that most don't want to read about others personal hardships as I honestly don't like reading them myself. What has happened has happened and I cannot change it only move on - This will be my last log about the Frye Fire of 2017!

To close I just want to thank Preston for taking me up the mountain to view the destruction with me. Seeing it with a good friend made it more bearable. There will be many more great trips up & around Ole' Graham my friend!!!
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Met up with Chad bright and early after another all-nighter working at the telescope on Mount Graham, and we started up the Swift Trail. The focus of the day was to tour the Pinalenos and see first hand the effects of the Frye Fire of June 2017. Our first stop of the day was at a small canyon that I had passed so many times without ever stopping to explore it. This little hidden gem was loaded with changing maples and flowing water.

As we passed the top end of the Shake Trail, we entered into the main burn area of the Frye Fire. Pitchfork Canyon looked like it had been skewered by the Devil’s flaming pitchfork. A mountain side of black sticks where a lush stand of mature firs had once provided dense shade. The Arrow Tree still stood.

Stop 2 was at Snow Flat. Most of this area had fared well, with the exception being the back road to Treasure Park (Treasure Park via Snow Flat hike is charcoal city). Hospital Flat had some damage but is still beautiful, I think.

Stop 3 was Grant Hill Trailhead. Grant Hill was almost entirely consumed in a crown fire. Hopefully aspens will thrive here in the coming decades, but it looks pretty bad right now, and the trail loops on it are closed for the foreseeable future. We talked with the Squirrel Girl here, and heard the latest Red Squirrel census, which was pretty grim (35 found during the post-fire count, I heard).

The Grant Creek area didn’t look too bad, with only moderate fire damage, as we approached Stop 4: Cunningham Campground, next to the western trailhead of the Cunningham Loop. We talked with some
Forest Service employees briefly, and checked out the the Grant Creek Trailhead before continuing on. The Moonshine Creek area fared well, with fall aspens and ferns adding some color.

The Fort Grant overlook revealed Grant Creek Canyon to have a mosaic burn pattern, with plenty of green forest left intact.

Approaching Columbine through the singed spruce-fir, we turned down Bible Camp Road toward the Deadman-Highline Trailhead. Bible Camp Road had seen mosaic burn, and while there was heavy damage in places, there were some patches of surviving spruce-fir. I knew that much of Deadman had been thoroughly torched, but I had hope that my trail sign might have survived. As we rounded the first corner of Deadman, there was the trail sign I had made in 2010, perfectly undamaged among burned logs. I couldn’t believe it, and it was one of the few sights that day that made me smile. I unbolted my soot-covered creation to bring it home, as Deadman-Highline, my favorite Pinaleno trail, will probably not ever reopen.

The next stop was one Chad and I were both apprehensive over: Columbine Corral/Ash Creek Trailhead. We had heard that Ash Creek and Webb Peak were severely burned and a sea of black sticks. Sadly, that was true. The jewel of the Pinalenos was completely devoid of green, save for some small aspen and raspberry sprouts in places. Heartbreaking. On to the next spot...

Soldier Creek Campground looked great, just like old times.

As we drove toward Chesley Flat across the black skeleton slopes of Webb Peak, we wondered if any of the top was untouched by this mega-fire. Fire damage beyond Chesley Flat was less severe, and finally ceased at the turnoff for Riggs Lake. There is some ground fire evidence on the east side of Riggs, but very minor. We walked around the lake on the Lakeshore Trail, finally able to see a healthy, familiar favorite.

We continued down the last mile plus of the Swift Trail through the unburned forests of old, to the Clark Peak Trailhead, where we started the CP Flat Loop hike. The west end of the Pinalenos was deserted and we enjoyed a great hike through the aspens and mixed conifer woodland.
The rugged cliffs of Grandview Peak above Hell’s Hole looked amazing with a small strip of golden aspens clinging precariously.

Making our way home, I pulled over at Chesley Flat to check out the upper end of the Blair Canyon Trail and the old “spooky woods” area. This area was on the edge of the Webb Peak inferno and sustained heavy but not total damage. Still some survivor trees, including the tumor tree, and the ancient Blair Canyon Trail sign.

We continued back down the mountain, discussing our findings and thoughts on the matter, and made one final stop at the upper Shake Trailhead to see trees caked in red retardant from the fire.

Back on the straightaway at the base of the Pinalenos, Chad headed for home, and I grabbed a sandwich at Mount Graham Market for dinner on the road to home.

A few observations, which are totally my opinion...
Most of the burn area, which includes the majority of the top of the Pinalenos, appeared to me to have about 50% tree mortality. Of that 50%, a large portion of these trees were covered in dead needles with no sign of green (heat scorched trees, rather than burn, maybe?). The most severe burn areas appeared to be Pitchfork Canyon, Grant Hill, Ash Creek, and Webb Peak. The least severe/most green areas appeared to be Snow Flat, the area north of Hospital Flat, and Grant Creek watershed. The top of Graham Ridge between Shannon Campground and the summit of Mount Graham was severely burned, with almost total tree mortality. Severe erosion scarred most of the drainages and creeks on top. I won’t discuss my personal feelings here, other than to say the burn was worse than I had feared. I still love the Pinalenos, and always will, but they sure do look rough right now. I might post a photo set.

Chad, thanks for another great adventure! Much better to see sights like this with a like-minded friend.
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Aug 07 2016
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3 day 2 night Camping trip at Riggs Flat Lake.

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Sunday 8/7 - Left Safford at 3pm and made it up to Riggs by 5pm.
Met the new camp host (Mark), choose site #18 for our 2 night stay, had the whole campground to ourselves!
Friends & Family came up earlier in the day for an overnight and camped at one of the lakeshore sites.
After meeting up with F/F for hellos, Addie and myself looped the lake along the Lakeshore Trail #340 at sunset before reuniting with the group for the nighttime campfire, dinner & laughs. Returned back to our camp for another campfire and stayed up way too late with 2 others (2am).

Monday 8/8 - Day #2 started way too early for me with a group hike on the Jesus-Babcock Trail. We all then spent most of the morning/early afternoon just enjoying the lake relaxing, fishing & kayaking. The G&F has not stocked the lake all summer due to the poor water quality, but I managed to catch 1 real nice holdover rainbow!
As the group headed back to camp for lunch, I snuck away for a solo hike up to Merrill Peak.
Returned back for F/F goodbyes then back over to our campsite for the evening/night.
Built a fire for an early dinner when out of nowhere ..... BOOM. It came in quick and we were forced into our tents to ride out one hell of a 2 hour lightning, rain & hail storm! The storm broke and left us with an hour of sun to cook dinner and enjoy sunset down by the lake. That night we had our last campfire, some sugar treats and interacted with are skunk that visited us both nights all night. Much needed sleep came at 10pm this night.

Tuesday 8/9 - Awoke early to see the lake clouded in fog, packed up camp and headed out with sprinkles hitting the windshield. A few miles down the Swift Trail, we parked at Chesley Flat for the days 1st hike. Another stop was made a few mile further down for the 2nd & last hike of the trip at Solider Creek. Separate hiking logs to come .....
We then headed slowly back down the mountain just taking in all the sights, the sunflowers that filled the meadows & all the wildlife along the way. Arrived back at town around 4pm ..... trip over :(

Summary - :y: :D :DANCE: :GB:
:thanx: Addie & Bianca XOXOXO
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Light around the lake, moderate up in the surrounding forest.

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No water running down the spillway, but lake is full.
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I had Tuesday off work, so I decided to camp somewhere I had never been. I quickly came up with Mount Graham. The pups and I drove to Riggs Flat Campground on Monday night. That night the temperature dropped to 18F not counting the windchill.
We woke up around 5am and headed toward the lake. We hiked the LakeShore Trail#340. We then drove to Soldier Creek Campground and made breakfast. After some warm food, we headed toward the Ash Creek TH. We did a 3.5mile loop up to Webb Peak and back. It was a cold and Windy treck to the top. We then hiked Moonshine creek and Big Creek Falls. Big Creek Falls was a nice hike, but it did get a little rough on the dogs at the falls. We got back in the truck and did a couple small hikes on the way down the mountain. Lady Bug Peak, Arcadia Natural Trail and very little of the Wet Canyon trail. Lady bug trail is a short trail that has amazing views. Adding up all the elevation gains for the day, I now understand why my bigger dog was exhausted. I usually dont hike more than a 1200ft gain with her, so 1800+ft was a bit much. She ended up sleeping all the way home.
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And so finished our camping adventure to Mt. Graham.... It all started when Randy (rwstorm) wanted to take Kelly (trekkin gecko) and myself on a hiking adventure to Mt. Graham down in Southeastern Arizona. Kelly and I had never hiked this area before, so when Randy came up with the idea, we both jumped at the chance to accompany Randy to this largest of the "Sky Islands".

At an altitude of 10,720 feet, Mt. Graham is the highest peak in the Southern half of Arizona and as Preston Sands admits, storms in the Monsoon season are a regular occurrence, so with this storm potential in mind, we kept a daily eye to the most recent weather forecast for the mountain. A day before the start of the hike, Kelly cancelled due to a 60 percent chance of bad weather occurring on more than one day of our planned 2-1/2 day outing.

Since I hadn't been tent camping in something like 50 years, and I had gone out and purchased enough equipment to kinda round out what I was going to need, I contacted Randy and told him that I was still game to go. Randy agreed, so Saturday morning, I headed down to Safford where Randy and I were to meet up at Swift Trail Junction. It was a beautiful start to the day and it didn't seem like there was a 60 percent of storms, so up the mountain we drove. We took a driving tour of many of the campgrounds along the way and noticed that there were very few campers on the mountain, but some of the more popular locations had the best spots already taken.

We finally arrived at the Riggs Lake campground (the last campground on the dead-end road) and found that there was still a good selection of camping spots available, so we selected one that offered us a view of the lake. We filled out the fee forms, inserted the fee amount and deposited the form so now we were registered. We quickly unloaded our gear and began setting up a formidable site that would be the envy of passersby. :D Then, just as we got the portable canopy in place over the picnic table, it began a light rain/hail mixture, which we naturally assumed, would be a short duration inconvenience. Then the lightning/thunder accompanied the, by now, mostly hail, began booming (when you can only count to two-one-thousand between flash and boom..... it's time to seek safe shelter) :scared: We beat feet to our trucks where we would sit out this noisy storm for about a half hour :o

The storm quit, almost a fast as it started and by now there was a fog-like haze over the campground and the lake. Our camping site was flooded and water had penetrated both of our tents, leaving me with damp changes of clothing so Randy and I had a status discussion. By now, we were both wet and even sore from being hit by the marble size hail, our firewood was wet, the campsite was flooded and our camping gear was soaked. We still had time and daylight to break camp, load the equipment into the trucks and get off the mountain before darkness set in..... so we did just that ](*,)

It's too bad that my first experience with Mt. Graham ended the way that it did, but I guess that means that I'm going to have to try it again.... but this time I'm going to listen to Kelly :D
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The Host at the campground said that he's never seen this much water in the creek in all the years that he's been working on the mountain.

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The lake appears to be at its full level, judging by the logs that line the shore.
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Wonderful day & night of tent camping with Addie & Lauren at my favorite AZ lake!

Arrived around 10am.
Visited with my friend Carl (camp host) who helped us pick out an awesome campsite close to the lake (site #31, highly recommend).
Set up camp then drove out a little further up the Swift Trail for our first hike of the day.
Returned back for some successful trout fishing.
Then a nice late afternoon 2nd hike around the lake and out to a great overlook behind the campground.
Sunset was marveled at back at the lake followed by the usual campfire fun late into the night.
We all then settled into our tents under clear skies for the night. 2 hours later, I was camping under one of the biggest lightning/rain storms of my life. It was crazy loud, a bit scarey, but ..... fun!
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Stopped by the lake Friday afternoon for some photos. It was just after a rain. The campground was pretty crowded, as you expect this time of year. I've never had any desire to camp there, but it is a pretty spot.
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