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Oct 22 2021
ScottHika
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See Spring Trail #185Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 22 2021
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Hiking4.00 Miles 404 AEG
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404 ft AEG15 LBS Pack
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I decided to beat the weekend crowds to fall colors in Payson. Friday I arose early and drove relatively traffic free to the See Canyon Trailhead. Sections of the forest road are a bit rough for my current little car but passable as I’ve done it times before. I like to come here in the fall and especially at this time of year with colors are on full display. I decided to take it easy and just poke around so I went to See Spring and back. The trail, which basically follows Christopher Creek, has numerous side trails and I took every one I could find. Most of them lead to a cool pool, small waterfall or hidden campsite. It's always worthwhile to look around.

The colors were amazing as I knew they would be during this peak. Blue juniper, green pines, yellows, oranges, and reds were all there. No purples yet but I’m satisfied. I’ve learned to expect the best colors around the third week of October with some overlap, so everything was right on schedule.

Christopher Creek had a nice flow and the soothing sound played while I had a snack. Just 2 cars at the lot when I got there and a dozen when I left. It'll be a traffic nightmare this weekend so I aced it this time.
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All colors many yellows and oranges to reds.
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Great flow at the spring source.
Aug 05 2021
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Babe Haught Trail - Hatchery to Knoll LakePayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Aug 05 2021
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Hiking12.02 Miles 3,508 AEG
Hiking12.02 Miles   7 Hrs   31 Mns   1.72 mph
3,508 ft AEG      32 Mns Break
 
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Headed up to Payson with a bud for a leisurely Mogollon Rim hike. This was planned as a mid-week Knoll Lake loop and back. The Hatchery was closed and the Babe Haught TH was about 20-30 degrees cooler than Phoenix at the start. Up top temps dropped another 10 degrees. The sky was clear with few clouds. Lower trail conditions were good, but a little washed out from recent rain. Upper trail conditions were soft as expected after some new erosion and still damp.

The feeder creeks were flowing lightly toward Knoll Lake. Lots of Fungi along the way and few people at the lake on a weekday. We chatted with some fishers and the trout were biting. Cross country through the forest is always fun and absolutely no prickly plants to deal with. In other words a walk in the park. I love hiking the rim lake area and this variation was as good as any I've done there
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Jul 24 2021
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Carney Springs Waterfall from LGM EastPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 24 2021
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Last weekend I took advantage of the rain and revisited the Supes to check my favorite local waterfall. Peralta was flooded some and the clouds were amazingly low. It was a trip for the books because I got great video of the Carney Springs waterfall with strong flow while hiding in the mist. I also dropped by the Shaka Cave to dry off and relax while low clouds covered everything. I’m hoping for another solid storm and flow to perhaps visit again.

Be aware that rocks were being thrown down the fall! All waterfalls have falling rocks and this 240 foot drop is no exception. It is not advised that anyone stand under a tall waterfall like this when flowing. Sadly you can Google search waterfall death falling rock to learn more about it. The trail looked good and was not eroding in the wrong places. It was a good day in the Superstition Mountains. :y:
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May 29 2021
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Peter's Canyon - Upper LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Canyoneering23.98 Miles 4,320 AEG
Canyoneering23.98 Miles   11 Hrs   26 Mns   2.10 mph
4,320 ft AEG16 LBS Pack
 
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I chose Peter’s Canyon Loop hoping to stay and hike in town a while longer before it gets too hot. With temps creeping into the high 90s and little chance of water, this was not an easy day hike. Hiking during the dry season is a blessing and a curse. There’s little/no salvageable water to capitalize on, so I had to carry. Also the canyon is much more scenic with water flowing. The upside is that it’s a bit easier to pass through when dry.

I started 6:30 am at Tortilla Flat and did a counter clockwise loop through the canyon, along Peter’s 105, FR213 and back on the 88 about 11.5 hours later. I was conserving but misjudged and ran out of water at Tortilla, so caught a lift the last few miles back to Tortilla Flat. I could have made it but decided not to press my luck.

Part of the reason I picked this hike is that I heard rumors that the infamous red-paint-tagger had been through Peter’s Canyon. Good news, there were no red painted cairns within the actual canyon. While back on the 105 I was motivated to remove another 100+ bright red eyesores from that section. This was the segment from Peter’s Canyon back to where I turned off for Music Mountain recently. I suspect that the trail from Peter’s Canyon up to the Mesa is probably still filled with ugly red rocks. To be honest it was pretty exhausting correcting the vandalism on an already long day hike and really slowed me down. Other than that it was a great look at Peter’s in the month of May and a trip that I’ll probably always remember. Check the photoset for more details.
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May 15 2021
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Music Mountain from Tortilla TH, AZ 
Music Mountain from Tortilla TH, AZ
 
Hiking avatar May 15 2021
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Hiking15.49 Miles 2,491 AEG
Hiking15.49 Miles   9 Hrs   11 Mns   1.69 mph
2,491 ft AEG15 LBS Pack
 
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Peters Trail 105 to Music Mountain - The other “Red Rock Country” :(

I took an awesome trip to Music Mountain summit from Tortilla TH using (more or less) hikerdw’s very fine route from 12-20.

I like to keep things positive but first I need to get something off of my chest. Somebody spray painted red literally every cairn on Peters Trail 105 (even all of the unnecessary cairns). I moved a lot of rock clearing them from sight as best as possible. (I calculated well over 1000 lbs) Rather than post a hundred pictures I’m adding one picture of the hundred or so cairns that I cleared. Each image is a different cairn at a separate location that needed to be dealt with. It will probably take years to really get rid of all the red paint. It slowed me down a lot but was worth it.

From my house, it’s an hour and a half drive to Tortilla TH so I didn’t get up early enough to beat the sun. With highs projected low 90s I knew I’d be good for a day hike. I also figured I’d not press the pace too much. I actually caught Tortilla during the very brief wildflower bloom when it’s this dry. I don’t know the names of all of them so I made a picture collage of flowers. In addition to the red rocks, I did some trimming. What we really need a trail crew to go through there with the big loppers. Kane Spring was seeping but I would pass on a drink unless an emergency. There are always lots of dry grasses to invade socks the length of the trail.

Once at the mountain, the off trail brush wasn’t awful and the route wasn’t excessively steep. The top plateau is somewhat clear since Woodbury fire 2019. I signed the summit register and decided to take advantage and look around. No telling how overgrown it will be the next time I get up there. I was rewarded with a horseshoe in the middle of nowhere. This says that old timers were up there. More importantly it says that there is a horse route to get up somewhere. The mountain side is really soft, especially after the fire so could not be a horse route the way I went. There are Agave and possible shallow Agave roasting pits like on Peter’s Mesa, but too much collateral damage from Woodbury to tell. I hiked to the south rim to get a look at north Herman Mountain face and into Sheep Mtn/Trap Canyon. I chased a glimmer in the hillside turned out to be Mylar and packed it out with the large sheet of styro packing wrap I found. I took the same route back.
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May 02 2021
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Carney Springs Waterfall from LGM EastPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar May 02 2021
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Hiking4.00 Miles
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14 LBS Pack
 
The weather is warming up and headed back to Carney Springs from Lost Goldmine trail. Today I visited the Carney Springs waterfall from LGM east. You can of course get there from Carney Springs TH. A very little bit of recent rain has helped the desert green-up some. 2020 in the Superstitions was a lot like 2020 in rest of the world, barren! Hopefully the drought will break and things will get back to normal before going into the summer. In order for the Carney Waterfall to flow, there really needs to be a lot of rain.

This visit was just to check the social trail and confirm the route so that others can visit the base of the falls too. We have been going to the wall for years, but I don’t know many other people that know about the faint trail. Carney has a beautiful hidden baby canyon with a pocket of high cliffs all around. There are unique views and often a mild breeze inside. It's a rare sight to catch it flowing. Climbers will love this access to the wall. The photoset tells the story of my morning hike. I uploaded the route. I’m writing a guide but it will take me a while.
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May 01 2021
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Wilson Mountain Trail #10Sedona, AZ
Sedona, AZ
Hiking avatar May 01 2021
ScottHika
Hiking12.20 Miles 2,838 AEG
Hiking12.20 Miles   5 Hrs   30 Mns   2.29 mph
2,838 ft AEG      10 Mns Break13 LBS Pack
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I planned on making a day trip to Sedona, so I was up super early for a relaxing drive. I arrived before dawn and was the first one to the small Midgley Bridge TH. I knew parking is usually an issue here. Great weather expected so I paid the fee and I took right to the trail. There were very few people over the trip so that was awesome.

I always enjoy Wilson Mountain and am sure to visit both the Northern and Southern Overlooks. Not my first time here so, more looking around and enjoying and fewer pictures taken. I did make a few brief stops at the overlooks for photos. I also poked around for the summit marker. I found a large cairn but could not locate a survey marker. I didn’t pull it apart. Atop I saw deer and possibly a bear on the upper plateau/meadow. I booked it down and beat traffic out of down. Overall pretty quick for me at about 5.5 total hours car to car.

Next trip up we’ll probably be staying a few days for a more Zen Sedona experience.
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Feb 20 2021
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Lost Goldmine - Shaka CavePhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 20 2021
ScottHika
Hiking3.50 Miles 495 AEG
Hiking3.50 Miles
495 ft AEG
 
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All my friends know I like challenging hikes, but I decided to check back with the Shaka Cave. I think it should be reclassified as easy, especially from Carney Springs Lot. I noticed that it is attracting families with small children. I am glad that people are enjoying visiting. I could be wrong but it is the easiest shortest cave hike in the Supes? This route should probably be used as official since I over-smoothed the original route.

Driving in on Peralta was a surprise with new gravel at the beginning section. The (Wave Cave) Carney lot was a zoo and people are just making their own spots by parking wherever everywhere. The LGM east lot had a lot of room as usual. I like the trail section of LGM by Dacite because there are mature Saguaros that have escaped fires. Somebody stole the new Wave Cave sign by the Dacite mine trail on LGM. Somebody else made a new Wave Cave sign at the Carney Springs/LGM intersection to replace the one that was stolen last Spring.

The Shaka trail looks pretty good. I did do some trail maintenance because the rains have encouraged the plants to take over. Inside the cave is pretty much the same but someone destroyed the 2 fire pits for some reason? I took some pictures of the walls and noticed interesting things I’ve never noticed before. There are strange patters and possibly cave art. I cannot be sure if it is old or new because I didn’t notice it before.

I also climbed up over the top of the cave for a photo shoot of the face. The images from a different perspective allowed me to see new things. The trip was worthwhile and seeing little kids inside the cave made me smile and remember years of teaching.
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Feb 07 2021
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Whiskey West-Red Tanks LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 07 2021
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Hiking20.00 Miles 3,999 AEG
Hiking20.00 Miles
3,999 ft AEG15 LBS Pack
 
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Friends wanted to watch football. Rather than watch Tom Brady win again I opted for Herman Mountain. I’ve wanted to summit Herman, and as a new experience I’ve never been atop before! I did a solo summit hike with a few side trips. Apparently I’m not as fast as I once was. It’s getting harder and harder to do things like this in one day. To be honest, much of this trip was passing through scorched earth in order to get to the places I wanted to see.

It was 39F when I started. Sadly, Barkley or Miners basins are tough for me to look at these days. One exception is that the fire makes it easier to see old trails. In this case the old Miners trail going up to Miners Saddle. Back in the day, Miners trail was the only route from QCU up to the saddle. (It was the route Adolph Ruth took among countless others.) This was before forest service rerouted Dutchman’s and replaced the old track in the 1960s with the current 104 route (east side). You can still see it faintly winding up the west side of the draw. I might just start using that old trail to keep if from disappearing completely.

Whiskey Springs was rush hour traffic! I passed about a dozen overnighters packing out in the morning. Then I didn't see a soul for the rest of the day. Whiskey Springs is where the destination began to come into view. Herman Mountain appears straight ahead. I searched all over and had a hard time finding summit completions. I noticed that @wallyfrack was there in 2014 and 2015. I didn’t follow his path, but that was really helpful. Thanks Wally!

From Red Tanks I picked a route that I thought an old miner would take to go up to the mesa. With no trail and in the middle of nowhere I spotted a horseshoe signaling that I was on the right track. Then I found cast off cans and bottles encouraging me to continue. Then I found hidden prospect sites getting more exciting. Finally I found the Miners den! That was really thrilling. I played around that area way too long, which would later cause me to come back in the dark. No regrets.

Herman Mountain is cliff ringed meaning there is no easy way up. It is also bigger on top than is seems. It is cut by Trap Canyon to the north and La Barge to the south. Red Tanks trail winds around two sides and Hoolie Bacon borders the east. The plateau is littered with quartz, crystals and conglomerate sparkling in the sun. Atop I played and interesting game of operation. My sunglasses fell deep into a thicket of Catclaw. The operation was a success. There were two summit cairns, so I chose the one with the old wooden survey stake. Both appear about the highest elevation. I found no summit log so I left a small bottle for anyone else to sign. Hopefully I picked the correct summit. They are not far apart. The choice was 50/50 (better than the odds on today’s big game). :)

I thought it would be fun to slide down into Trap canyon and take an alternate route out. It didn’t look bad on topo, but that proved to be a poor decision. I was really slowed down with more canyoneering than hiking. I also had to push past impassible plant growth barriers. The fires never make it down into Trap there. The plus was the emergence of pleasant streams and pools and waterfalls. I’ve been missing the sound of water during my hikes. Trap was really nice on the way out and I need to make a pass all the way through one day.

More boulder hopping and then back to La Barge for a recharge. By then I was on autopilot back to my car at Peralta. The trip clocked just under 20 miles, but RS crashed twice so I figure I get my 20 for sake of argument. :) The sunset was spectacular.
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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout

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Jan 18 2021
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Dripping Springs from PeraltaPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 18 2021
ScottHika
Hiking17.76 Miles 2,620 AEG
Hiking17.76 Miles   9 Hrs   8 Mns   2.08 mph
2,620 ft AEG      36 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 
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Met my bud Tim on the trail for another day trek in the Superstitions. The main plans were to see the aftermath of fires (and regrowth) in mostly familiar areas. Originally we were headed down to Milk Ranch in Whitlow Canyon. The area had been torched so bad that it will be saved it for another day. Also you can practically drive right up to it with the right vehicle. After looking for (again) the source of Deerhorn Spring (didn’t find it), we turned up Coffee Flat Canyon. Saw not less than 3 different family groups of Javelina, which is a lot in my experience.

Coffee Flat canyon is interesting and a worthy future side trip. Randolph Canyon was bone dry as expected and this makes it a very different trip from the usual water excursion. Looked into Carlson’s cave at Dripping Spring. Pretty much the same, but always worth climbing up to.

The windmills at Reeds appear about the same as well. The best part of the trip was back up to Abe Reid’s Camp. (Reeds Camp). Abe Reid was a Dutch hunter and miner who started the mine in the mid 1930s. USPS TOPO got the name wrong, and his name was definitely Reid. He spent decades looking for silver in Whitlow, but never found it. He died in 1958. Tom Kollenborn wrote a nice chronicle about him if you like history. The camp looks about the same as when I first went there and even about the same as Kollenborn’s photo from the 1980s. There is rusty stuff everywhere. We were going to take his 60 year old road but decided to bushwhack instead. It’s more interesting and never know what will be found off of the beaten path.

The off trail and mine explore really slowed the pace, but we were enjoying the experience. Headed back through the devastated Barkley Basin to be greeted by an amazing sunset at the Peralta lot. It was a good day.
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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout There is no water at pin location on map. There are pools and concrete structures farther down. There is a modern spring box flowing a gallon a minute 300 yards south of map location.

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You cannot get water from Dripping Spring, but Fraser Canyon confluence had a trickle.

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Some pools at confluence Coffee Flat Canyon. Dry at Randolph.

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Water in both wells by windmills. Both boxes including the seep are dry as a bone (as usual).
Dec 26 2020
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Dutchman Trail #104Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 26 2020
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Hiking20.10 Miles 2,485 AEG
Hiking20.10 Miles   9 Hrs   25 Mns   2.23 mph
2,485 ft AEG      25 Mns Break18 LBS Pack
 
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We decided on a nice post Christmas hike along the Dutchman #104. I burned off a few of my holiday cookies along the way. This was a trans Superstition Mountains north to south route from Fist Water to Peralta (one way). We planned to stay only on the 104 and add perhaps a short side trip for lunch. This is not an elevation hike winding through the canyons with a couple saddles.

The beginning along First Water creek was peaceful. Not a lot of wildlife but a bit of water in the pools. We captured Weavers needle as it briefly blocked out the sun. Heading through Parker pass was nice. I always enjoy the views and the general Palomino - BTM area.

Since I usually take Bull Pass, I noted the loop around upper Black Top Mesa escaped the fire. Off we headed through Needle Canyon and Marsh Valley into LaBarge. Lunch at Charlebois was the highlight for me. We broke some bread and shared some laughs. We noted the very late "fall" colors in the Sycamore and Cottonwood trees. Heading up LaBarge we hit the burn area. The remaining half of the journey had varying degrees of fire damage. The final leg across Barkley basin has been really depressing. It does not look like that area will be recovering for a long while.

We crossed paths with about a dozen people over the day, primarily groups of 3-4 overnighters. Overall a memorable trip with good people.
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Still yellows and golds in Sycamore and Cottonwood.
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No flow at confluence

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Reliable in upper pools

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Some pools in East Boulder clear from 104.


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Dry on Dutchman's 104 and canyon

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Dec 12 2020
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Lost Goldmine - Shaka CavePhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking1.81 Miles 442 AEG
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442 ft AEG      10 Mns Break10 LBS Pack
 
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I took an afternoon trip from Lost Goldmine east to explore a few things. First I headed toward the Dacite Mine (Pete Carneys mine). It is a short trail just off of LGM leading up toward the cliffs. Hang a right at the face and there is the entrance. The hole in the grate is big enough to get through but I didn’t go inside this time.

Once back on LGM I hiked toward Carney. I looked around the old camp for a while, and checked the water at the hidden Carney Spring source. It is actually about 150 feet northeast of the location on maps. The spring pin should probably be adjusted. It was dripping. There are pipes running parallel to the west side of Trail down to the concrete basin. There may be other pipes running all the way down to the spring box at the fence.

I crossed over the Ridgeline/Carney trail from the basin and headed up to the Shaka Cave. The rocks are a little loose as the trail doesn’t get much traffic. There is gradual incline up to a near scramble toward the entrance. I’ve been here many times over the years and it always seems timeless.

There are mortar holes and pottery sherds and other artifacts testifying to once inhabitation, at least seasonally. Please follow 'leave no trace'. Preserve the holes by not stepping on them, or removing arrowheads, etc. There’s an upper ledge in the back that I’ve never gone up to. I am unsure how to look without damaging anything. To be clear, I am not encouraging anyone climbing or digging in the cave. I headed back to the lot and arrived just in time for an amazing sunset.
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Nov 15 2020
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Whiskey West-Red Tanks LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 15 2020
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Hiking21.07 Miles 4,176 AEG
Hiking21.07 Miles
4,176 ft AEG   1 Hour    Break15 LBS Pack
 
Another adventure in the Superstitions with my buddy Tim. We decided to look for 3 things today called Whiskey Springs loop with side trips. You might see that our route up to Miners Saddle was off trail. The reason is that we took the old pack trail (from Quarter Circle U) looking for the lost Peak 3748 Azimuth mark named Circle AZ MK. That marker is somewhere on the west side of the draw but east of Miners Needle on the original route to the summit. The pack trail is practically gone now due to no traffic, recent fires, erosion and regrowth. Most people prefer the new Dutchman’s route up the East side of the canyon. We probably walked right by it, so no luck once again.

We then proceeded around Whiskey Springs trail up to the Peak 3748 summit. Circle (after Quarter Circle U) has unique views of Miner’s needle and Cathedral rock. Kollenborn calls it Castle Rock, Carlson calls it Cathedral rock, and Shelly calls it the Three Bears. I’m also adding a skyline photo of something I didn’t have last time I took pictures here. I was using my Kodak 110 Camera at the time. See photoset of peak finder.

Then back down Whiskey Springs canyon and through the upper box. Whiskey Springs was torched during Woodbury fire and still very slowly recovering. Next we wanted to check the water level at Brad’s Water. As usual the cave was full, perhaps down a bit. Since people keep bathing in there, it’s a good idea to filter any water you drink. It is a reliable source year round, which is critical in this area.

The final exploration was to locate and assess the mysterious LaBarge Spring No 2. This was my first trip back there. Sadly after poking around for a while (and being poked) we found no evidence of water, no improvements, or any other manmade structures. I did see fresh footprints from somebody, which was a real shock given the off trail and remoteness of the spring. Since there is adequate water at nearby Brads, there is little need to pursue LaBarge 2 during the dry season.

We ran a little late due to clowning around and a scree slide on my back into a family of Prickly Pears. Good to have a buddy around to pull the big thorns out of my back. The hundreds of smaller ones had to wait until I got home. Tough love reminder to pay attention. Caught a cool drink at old faithful LaBarge 1 and headed back.

We ended up coming back Bluff Spring 235 in the dark. Bluff is not especially technical at night but the canyon crossings in the dark were interesting. I should point out that the Superstations are not an appropriate place to start if you just got your very first trail light. I’ve decided that I now know why some people put obvious cairns when no cairns are necessary. It is because they are night hikers. Haha The obvious cairns are useful when you can only see five feet in front of you.

The downside of night hiking is you cannot see anything. The upside of night hiking is that you cannot see anything. With all of the scorched earth in Barks, it’s possible to hike at night and remember greener times. Another great thing is that the Stars are spectacular out there. Fire restrictions have been extended through year’s end I believe. We detected at least two different groups of packers/campers with fires. We passed fairly close by one of them near Crystal Spring. Tim dared me to bust into the camp and ask them to put out their fire. I passed.
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dry Brads Canyon Dry Dry
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Confluence is dry. If you don't mind a trip up the canyon to Brad's cave, there is year round filterable water.

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Not sure how to measure flow. The cave is full but don't know how fast it is fed. Spring boxes have been compromised for a long time. There is some puddling near the upper pipes.

dry Crystal Spring Dry Dry
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout

dry Labarge Spring Number Two Dry Dry
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Wanted report to check availability during dry season. The spring appears dry. If there are improvements or reliable water at LaBarge 2, we couldn't find any. There was some water in small pools down canyon in dry grass perhaps from recent rain?

dry Trap Canyon Dry Dry
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout


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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Spring boxes are filled with dirt. The pipe is making slow drip molasses. Some pools further down the canyon look promising.

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Nov 02 2020
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Thumb Butte to Sierra Prieta Loop, AZ 
Thumb Butte to Sierra Prieta Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Nov 02 2020
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Hiking13.30 Miles 2,269 AEG
Hiking13.30 Miles
2,269 ft AEG      15 Mns Break12 LBS Pack
 
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I have not been to Prescott in November in a while. I first started coming here in the 1980s and have many fond memories. I usually leave before dawn, and hit the trail early. Today I, decided to do something different and take an afternoon/evening hike.

It was a great afternoon under the pines. My original goal was to catch the Sierra Prieta “Sunset Overlook” at sunset. I slept in after HW festivities and hit the road from Phoenix around noon. There was very little midday traffic at the Thumb Butte Rec. lot, which was a plus. The fee is $5 a day unless you have a pass. Thumb Butte is a quick shot in the arm of elevation right out of the gate. There is a nice memorial to the Granite Mountain heroes right at the Butte saddle. I heard birds, saw very little wildlife overall, a few insects, a few more spiders and a mule deer that quickly disappeared. The forest is still recovering after recent fire. There were a few fall colors, mainly oaks turning to yellow. The forest has a maze of cross trails so best to plan a route.

After taking a few connector roads, I soon realized I’d get to the overlook before actual sunset. Sierra Prieta has great views. At the overlook, there was a fair size crowd of young partiers, loud music and off road vehicles. The wonderful sound of motorized vehicles revving their engines and laughter permeated the air. It looked like a lot of fun, but the old guy with four wheel drive feet had other plans. I decided to bag nearby peak 7035. That was a great choice and sitting at the very top, I had a snack and recharged for the trip back. In retrospect, it would have been a lot easier to hit Peak 7035 on the way up. I headed off trail to scramble back to Thumb Butte Rd. I rethought my wisdom while clinging to roots as I descended the steep bank by the road. Please do not follow my route here!

The rest of the way back was cake - all downhill. Once off the thumb trail I only encountered two senior backpackers that wished to be alone, and a friendly biker that slowed to chat for a while. I captured some awesome pictures and of course finished up in the dark. Miller Creek was dry without water and the forest in the dark reminded me of something from long ago.
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Moon Sunset
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Oct 20 2020
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Tortilla TH to Tortilla WellPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking13.21 Miles 1,608 AEG
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1,608 ft AEG15 LBS Pack
 
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Back to Tortilla TH or a few more things. I usually hike with goals in mind like things I am interested in. My first goal was to check the water level at the original Tortilla Well. This is the 1928 well at the Tortilla Ranch, not the water tank that everyone knows about. Tortilla was a cattle ranch (not a gold mine) so there is no reason for anybody to risk going down into shafts like this. If you were to fall in, there is little chance anyone would find your body for a really long time. As far as I can remember, the level is somewhat lower than before. I didn’t think to have a phone app that could measure the depth, but I estimate water level to be 25-40 feet down? The staining on the side of the walls shows that at one time it was quite a bit higher. It’s been a brutal summer and pretty dry fall thus far. In early days this was a shallow well.

My second plan was to locate the remains of the “First Windmill”. This is not the windmill at Peters also called the “Second Windmill” or upper windmill. I'm talking about the Fist Windmill (lower windmill), which stood above the 1928 well behind the iconic T Frames at the Tortilla ranch site. The last I remember it was around 2005 and the blades were off but tail attached. If anyone knows what happened to it or has photo after 2005, please post it. I couldn’t find any part of it except a mounting bracket.

My third task was to look into what’s going on with Night Hawk spring in Cedar Basin. The problem with water report during wet months is that it’s difficult to tell the difference between spring activity and normal runoff. I found no water anywhere during my trip to Night Hawk spring and surrounding area. There also is zero chance that spring-fed water would ever be in the lower spring box or in the upper spring box (the one with the 7-30-37 date on it). The reason is because the water transfer system has been severely compromised. There are a half dozen breaks in the lines running from the spring source (1/4 mile up the canyon) down to the boxes.

As far as I could tell, the “spring” has nothing but damp sand and no standing water. There appears to be a pipe at the source (like the pipe at the McDowell Mountain spring) coming out of the rock but this one without water. There is a large cairn on Hoolie Bacon near the apparent source. (HB111 is loaded with other large cairns that have no connection). Would need to go back for better look to validate this, but I don’t plan on returning anytime soon. Back in the day, this would have been dealt with immediately. Water was literally life or death to the beeves.
I hiked the 13 mile trip from Tortilla TH down FR213 to JF to Hoolie and back. No expected water resupply so I packed it. Temperature was 90s and cooling. Catclaw and Mesquite are creeping over the trails. I did light trail maintenance.
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Chuparosa in Cedar Canyon


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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout The spring source is up the canyon from the boxes and the pipes are broken. The spring does not appear to run year round.

dry Tortilla Well Dry Dry
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout This report is by Peters Trailhead.
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Oct 07 2020
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Dixie Mountain Loop - Sonoran PreservePhoenix, AZ
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Hiking4.82 Miles 913 AEG
Hiking4.82 Miles   1 Hour   27 Mns   3.32 mph
913 ft AEG13.2 LBS Pack
 
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I finished late so I decided to do the midweek sunset hike at Dixie Mountain off of the Desert Vista Trailhead. I pulled up just as the sun went down. I was about 15 minutes too late for perfect photo taking, but I snapped off a few. This is a popular trail with much traffic. It is slightly rocky but frequently used by bikers, runners and hikers. This is a basic loop but the area has two nice summits available. I decided to skip them in the dark. The temps were in the 90s - high 80s with 5 mph breeze. I loaded a 13 pound hydration pack with bricks and water. (I like to keep the weight up so I don’t go into shock whenever I get to back packing).

The trail has typical high Sonoran Desert flora. It was a bit dark to appreciate the Cholla forests but the Saguaros stood boldly against the sky. I heard an owl, saw various reptiles and a few insects. I took a moment to admire the famous rusted car just over the ledge around mile three. Overall it was a good hike with small elevation moderately close to home. Some of the rocks are set firm and determined to hook a foot and drag you down, so good idea to watch the ground when out in the dark. I consider it safe at night with a trail lamp.
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Union Hills
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Sep 27 2020
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Tortilla TH to Fish Creek Bridge, AZ 
Tortilla TH to Fish Creek Bridge, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Sep 27 2020
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Hiking14.90 Miles 4,062 AEG
Hiking14.90 Miles   8 Hrs   28 Mns   1.85 mph
4,062 ft AEG      26 Mns Break14.75 LBS Pack
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This was not a standard hike so there is no "official" connected route. I haven’t been in here since before Woodbury fire so was interested in changes from that blaze. It’s a little warm yet (little over 100) but I decided to do the 15 mile trek. I packed 15 pounds mostly water. I use a gravity filter but was not sure I would find any usable H2O this time of year. I ended up not using it.

I started at Tortilla Trailhead at Apache 88 and hiked the Forest road 213 the 3+ miles down past Tortilla ranch. I have a SUV but it doesn't have the clearance to survive the first quarter mile. A notable change is that the large wooden gateway announcing entry to Tortilla Ranch is now partly burned down. The old Tortilla corral still has barbed wire and some burnt wooden fence posts. If you haven’t been to the Tortilla well in a few years, the windmill (by the start of Peter’s) is down and smashed to pieces.

A lot of cacti have been destroyed but not everything was torched. The catclaw has been reduced some but will no doubt return with a vengeance. I took JF to poke around the Miller site. The fire blazed pretty heavily in that area but a lot of invasive grass has grown back. I throw my socks away after hikes like this because of all the foxtails and other pricklers that I pick up. I always find new things, and also little pieces of this and that in the mine area (and leave them), and pay my respects to the old timers.

I took a no name canyon to Lost Dutchman, said hello to a few rattlesnakes, and dropped by a cave. The water situation is really dry in September, especially this year of record heat. Except for stagnant collections near a few springs, there was no water in lower Lost Dutch Canyon. I also saw no water in Fish Creek until about 3 miles up from the Bridge. I pocketed a few walnut size gold nuggets that I found in the dry bed, and then made my way past the emerging frog pools. A few small trickles appeared before disappearing entirely.

Fish Creek really is a beautiful canyon and there are no hints of fire here except scattered pieces of burnt driftwood that floated down from the upper canyons. If you don't like boulder hopping then don't come here. You need reasonably good route finding skills (and endurance) to navigate this area. Please do not overestimate your ability. The large trees and high cliffs were appreciated as they kept the sun off my back for a good stretch. I escaped the large boulders blocking the exit and looked up at the bridge. I think it's sad that this great passage is now abandoned to return to nature.
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Lost Dutch Spring Dripping Dripping
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout

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Sep 23 2020
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Shaw Butte - North Mtn LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking7.21 Miles 1,592 AEG
Hiking7.21 Miles   2 Hrs   24 Mns   3.00 mph
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I like Shaw Butte and they have a first class visitors center on 7th street. This is not what you would call a pretty hike this time of year. Brutal record breaking heat and little rain has fried all but the most hardy of desert plants. It is without a doubt always a great exercise park, however.

I did Shaw Butte first (not my first time) from the visitor's center. The temps this time of year are generally a bit over 100, so many people opt to go in the evening, as did I. This was a counterclockwise loop. It's a wide maintained road up the front (north) side that utility trucks use to service the towers on top. I actually prefer to do a clockwise loop, but it doesn't work as well when adding North Mountain. Shaw Butte is well traveled and easy to follow, just a bit of scree on the backside switchbacks to watch out for. The 360 north valley views are really stunning.

After reaching the main Shaw Butte summit, I like to add the 2nd peak 1960 with tall KPHF-FM (Christian Radio) tower. It gives great view of north west valley. Then a quick trip (careful footing) down the 306 trail and over to the 100 Charles Christiansen. This trail follows the valley between Shaw Butte and North Mountain to the next destination. I decided to take the pass around the north side of North on the 101 trail and then hook up with tower road off of 7th for the 3rd peak.

They really did a good job making North Mountain a family friendly summit hike. It was closed it seemed forever in 2019 and 2020, but the end result is worth it in my opinion. There are now guard rails safe for pets and kids, and it is one of the few summit trails that is paved. It is just about .8 mile to the top and very popular. Even in September, there were no less than 100 people on the hill this evening. The wide lanes don't really feel crowded though. They also added a new guard rail along 7th street for a quick safe connector back to the visitor center. At a little over 7 miles and 1600 elevation it is as easy or hard as you choose make it.
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KPHF-FM (Phoenix)
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Jan 01 1996
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North Mountain National Trail #44Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking1.42 Miles 600 AEG
Hiking1.42 Miles   1 Hour      1.42 mph
600 ft AEG
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This is an experiment to see if anyone will read a trip about a common hike with terrible photography :). I got a brand spanking new digital camera for Christmas 1995. Today is the 25th anniversary my first digital "nature shoot" New Years Day 1996. I don't recall the brand or the details but I don't think there were many digital options back then? My friend Chris and I took a "hike" up to to North Mountain summit in the Phoenix Mountain preserve. We hoped to see how modern technology would translate the view. We also had in mind recovering from the previous nights excesses. It was great fun laughing and general childishness.

I actually remember the trip and how amazing having digital photography was. It would change everything! A quarter of a century later, the pictures don't stack up to the memories. My remembrances are full living color and huge. The photography is pretty awful, low resolution, and colorless. We didn't have selfies in mind or doing yoga poses off of the edge. Why didn't we think of that?? I was considering modernizing the images, but that would destroy the historical value, lol. I'm not bashing then or now. They're just different, and tech will continue to change in the next 25.

1996 was a great year! My daughter was born among other things. I got out of a dead end job and went back to school for new future. I'm optimistic that 2121 will be memorable as well. Happy New Year HAZ!
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