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Sep 28 2024
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Riggs - Clark - Cunningham - Webb - Ice Cave, AZ 
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Riggs Lakeshore Trail #340

We started our day around 7:30 a.m. at Riggs Lake. It was my first time there, and it’s a pretty little lake. There were a few fishermen and kids wandering from their campsites, beginning to stir for the day. Heading clockwise, we followed a use trail to a two-track road and ultimately reached the Clarke Peak Trailhead.

Clark Peak

John's girlfriend Denise at the Columbine Visitor Center had warned us that this trail was terribly overgrown with locust trees and not worth hiking. However, we weren’t in the listening mood and decided to give it a try anyway. The rumors of locusts were highly exaggerated. John and Kelly both hiked in shorts and short sleeves with little to no bloodshed. The trail is tight in spots, and there are multiple paths heading up the mountain. This is a worthwhile trail to explore when in the Riggs Lake area.

CP Flat Loop

This loop is located entirely on the far western section of the Swift Trail and 4x4 road. It’s mainly wooded, with some impressive views along the Swift.

Cunningham Loop Trail #316

Next up was the official loop found here. Starting from the Cunningham Campground parking lot, we made our way around counterclockwise to the intersection with the "Lower" portion of the loop. Evidence of the fire was abundant, but not everything had been torched. A significant amount of work has been done to open this portion of the loop. There are literally hundreds of slash piles stacked along sections of the trail. At about the 2-mile mark, we reached the intersection with the "Lower" Trail. Things changed quickly; this section is a warzone. We aborted our attempt there and opted to complete just the "Upper" portion. Later, while talking with a volunteer at the visitor center, we learned that the lower portion was severely damaged by the Frye Fire and may never be rebuilt.

Webb Peak Loop via Columbine TH

Since we had some extra time, we decided to do this loop. Starting from the Columbine Trailhead, we headed uphill through the burn area and the now 2-foot tall aspen. The fire tower still stands but is charred. We continued down the lookout road and back to the parking area, where John made another new friend. He thought he’d have her eating out of his hand with his sweet-talking, but she had no part of it.

Ice Cave

We returned to camp for a bit, had some lunch, relaxed, and then set out in search of the "Ice Cave."

It was just a short walk from our campsite. Kelly had a waypoint, and I had a waypoint from an online search, so we wandered about looking for other possibilities. We found three potential sites.

The first was easy to find, just about 50 feet into the mountain, but I didn't think it was the right one.

The second one, John descended into a bit before the bats chased him out. This cave dropped straight down pretty steeply, and I ultimately believe this is the one we were looking for.

The third cave was a bit more adventurous to reach. Kelly, John, and I took two different routes through the boulder fields, searching for possibilities. I found one that you could enter, which contained at least one large room measuring approximately 20 by 20 feet.

While Kelly was making her way over to us through the mass of boulders, we heard a “Oh Schmidt!” (or something like that). She’d lost her phone somewhere, and it could have been anywhere, including 50 feet straight down among the boulders. John tried calling it, but we heard nothing. We all worked our way back to where she’d come from. I tried calling it, and BINGO—we heard it! She was lucky to find it sitting right on top of a rock.
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Webb Peak from Ash Creek THTucson, AZ
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Started with a stop at the Columbine visitor center for a visit with our friend.
The hike - Columbine up to Webb Peak :next: a bit down Chesley Flat (lost the trail) :next: down to Solider Creek :next: Swift Trail back to Columbine.
Lots of burn area, but with a very lush green forest floor and many wildflowers adding color.
Nice breezy temps up high, a few dark clouds above with a few sprinkles here and there.
3 turkeys and one white-tail spotted.
Fun hike with a fun friend!
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Oct 18 2019
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Heliograph-Webb-Clark, AZ 
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I had never been to the Pinaleno Mountains, so I decided that now would be a good time to go. My main goal was to bag a couple of 10,000 foot peaks that I haven't hiked: Webb and Heliograph. While I was out there, I figured that I would go ahead and bag Clark also. I managed to talk Tracie, my favorite and intrepid hiking companion, out of hiking Silly Mountain and to come to the Pinaleno's instead. She was glad that she did!

Our first hike was to Heliograph Peak. We decided to do the peak the short way via Shannon Campground. We took SR 366 (the Swift Trail) to the turnoff for the campground, and we parked at the turnoff just before a locked gate. SR 366 was narrow and curvy, but it was paved all the way to the campground turnoff. We had intended to do a loop hike that would take us to the Heliograph summit about half-way through the loop. However, it was VERY foggy, and visibility was limited to no more than 200', so we just did an up-and-back hike on the easy-to-walk on forest road. We saw 3 deer near the summit, and came across some nice fall foliage while walking the road. However, with the fog, we could only see the trees that were right in front of us. Fog also kept us from seeing much of anything at the summit.

Second up was Webb Peak, which we did via Soldier Creek. By the time that we got back to my truck after coming down from Heliograph, it started to rain -- and it was a wet ride to our parking spot for Webb Creek. To get there, we continued on SR 366 (which became unpaved just past the Shannon Campground turnoff). SR 366 eventually becomes FR 803, which is also unpaved. Even though the road is unpaved, it is very well maintained and virtually any vehicle can drive on it. We continued to FR 88 (Webb Creek Rd), where we turned right and parked a short distance before you come to a gate. It was still raining so we sat in the truck for a few minutes until the rain stopped. It was still very foggy, so we again decided to do an up-and-back hike to the peak on the forest road. I had originally thought about doing a loop by coming back down on the Ash Creek Trail, but several recent triplogs cited lots of deadfall on the Ash Creek Trail, and we didn't want to deal with it in the rainy weather. There were quite a few yellow-leaved aspens along our hike to the summit, but with the fog we could only see what was right in front of us. When we got back to my truck we saw 4 deer a short distance away.

Our third and last hike was to Clark Peak. From our parking spot for Webb peak, we drove about 5 miles to the end of FR 803 and parked. It was still foggy, and we started out on the Clark Peak Trail but we were going downhill and I thought that we might not be going the right way. So we backtracked a bit and walked on FR 730. By this time the fog had lifted and we got to see lots of fall foliage on FR 730. We then backtracked again back to my truck, and this time followed the Clark Peak Trail to Clark Peak, where we had to do some off-trail scrambling to get to the summit. Now that the fog had lifted, we finally got to enjoy some nice views atop Clark Peak.

Mileage and elevation gain for the 3 peaks:
Heliograph: 4.6 miles; AEG of 962'
Webb: 3.6 miles; AEG of 712'
Clark: 2.8 miles; AEG of 725'

The mileage and elevation gain above is the sum for the 3 peaks.

I enjoyed this area, and plan to go back again!
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Webb Peak via Soldier CreekTucson, AZ
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First visit since the fire.
I knew it would be bad ..... and it was.
Total tree loss 360 for about 90% of the hike ... and well beyond.
This one hurt!
On the + ... many, many new aspens already higher than my head.
Animal count - 7 deer, 1 skunk & 1 raccoon
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Webb Peak Trail #345Tucson, AZ
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Decided to explore some more in the Pinalenos. Sorry, no dashcam video or facebook-esque personal drama about not hiking :sweat: .

Skipped this one last fall after checking out the damage in Ash Creek. I opted to climb via the old road from Soldier Creek figuring it would be easier to attempt to find the single-track while descending on the way back. Turned out to be a good plan. I wouldn't recommend trying to go up from either end of the 345 trail right now. And descending the north half will make you fight to find the way up Ash Creek, which I also don't recommend. In a couple of years, I expect they will clear these trails, but for now, it's work to find the tread.

I didn't remember if the tower was still standing or if they had taken it down after it had been hit by fire. So I was pleased to see the metal remains, though all the wood has burned out, including the floor of the cab. All the windows had blown out from the heat, and the area around the tower was strewn with broken glass.

A clap of thunder signaled my time to leave, and the adventure of route-finding on the way back to the Ash Creek TH began. It's not impossible, but takes a steady eye. The regrowth of aspens is really the issue now, as the tread is usually findable somewhere under there. The growth is generally 3-4 feet high. Of course you have to keep your ears tuned to cracking wood as the standing trees are falling by the day. Windy weather here is not your friend right now.

Finally at the bottom, I looped back to my truck. The trailhead area is open again, and FS is collecting fees for camping there.

Big changes from pre-fire, but still a pleasant quick loop, if you don't mind a little puzzle on your hikes.
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After packing up camp from our 2 night stay at Riggs Lake, we headed back down the mountain making our 1st stop at Chesley Flat for a hike. We first took the Blair Canyon trail down a bit to visit the spooky forest, then backtracked up and onto the Chesley Flat trail. This is one of my upper mountain fav's, lots of wildflowers & raspberries to see through the meadows on our way up to Webb Peak. Took the service road & Swift Trail back down to complete the loop.

Stop #2 was made at Solider Creek for lunch and to show the girls the "ice caves" along the Jesus Goudy Trail.
The camp hosts & locals on the mountain always send hikers to these IMO very overhyped "caves". This was my 3rd visit and the girls 1st. I guess they are worth seeing once, the granite formations in the area are very cool.
None of us were very impressed on this visit.

After the "caves", we ended our 3 day 2 night camping trip atop the Big Island with a beautiful slow drive back down the ole' Swifty. Great getaway with great people and as always a great desire to get right back up there and do it again !!!
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The meadows are full of yellow sunflowers along with other colors & raspberries.
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Riggs Flat CampgroundTucson, AZ
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I had Tuesday off work, so I decided to camp somewhere I had never been. I quickly came up with Mount Graham. The pups and I drove to Riggs Flat Campground on Monday night. That night the temperature dropped to 18F not counting the windchill.
We woke up around 5am and headed toward the lake. We hiked the LakeShore Trail#340. We then drove to Soldier Creek Campground and made breakfast. After some warm food, we headed toward the Ash Creek TH. We did a 3.5mile loop up to Webb Peak and back. It was a cold and Windy treck to the top. We then hiked Moonshine creek and Big Creek Falls. Big Creek Falls was a nice hike, but it did get a little rough on the dogs at the falls. We got back in the truck and did a couple small hikes on the way down the mountain. Lady Bug Peak, Arcadia Natural Trail and very little of the Wet Canyon trail. Lady bug trail is a short trail that has amazing views. Adding up all the elevation gains for the day, I now understand why my bigger dog was exhausted. I usually dont hike more than a 1200ft gain with her, so 1800+ft was a bit much. She ended up sleeping all the way home.
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I don't know why it took me over a year to get back to Mount Graham because I really like this area. I did a Grant Creek Goudy Ridge loop today with side trips down Moonshine Creek and up Webb Peak.

I was passed going up Grant Creek Trail by three trail runners :o A good portion of Moonshine is torn up from a tree trimming project, however, I was able to get to the falls area and found it to be a nice little side trip. I saw a few cars during the road walk from Grant to Goudy, but no other hikers or runners the rest of the day. With Graham being illegal I settled for Webb. It was nice to hit 10,000 feet after starting the day at 5400. I considered "Chestley" Flats on my way down from Webb, but had to keep Cup and mind and just decided to head for the Xterra.

The upper sections of Goudy Ridge Trail are nice, with the gigantic pines and old forest feel, but I think the trail loses its redeeming qualities the lower you go. It is a relentless downhill and the trail is in disrepair in spots, however, it gets you down the mountain pretty quick, with some pretty good views.

Another great trip to Graham. I hope to make it back soon; its a great area with several more trails I want to hike. I just wish it was not so far away.
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Last year I hiked this loop stopping at the big "Fort Grant overlook" and set up a fire ring with plans of returning the following week to camp at the spot for a night. One year later on this trip, I made it back and as a very nice bonus, I brought along my Roper Lake SP girls (Addie & Lauren).

Day 1 - We arrived at Grant Hill in the mid afternoon and chose the counter clockwise route for the quickest time to the site as the light was gonna get low soon on this south side of the mountain. My fire ring was still intact, had been used since last year, but was set up nicely with firewood for a new night. We set up camp, gathered more firewood & settled in to our amazing overlook site under the supermoon. Fire, conversation, laughs and awesome night views of Fort Grant below with light monsoon storms hitting the valleys & mountains in the southern distance. Twas a most wonderful night with friends that ended at 4am. I settled into my sleeping bag with 50deg temps and a gentle wind through the pines excited about the next day!

Day 2 - Awoke after 4 hours of sleep, had an energy shooter for breakfast, broke camp and then completed the rest of Grant Hill Loop. We then switched the backpacks for day packs and drove up to Columbine for the days hike. Light rain started to fall as we made our way down the Ash Creek trail, but ended by the time we made it down to the boiler/Webb Peak Y. The Ash Creek trail looked amazing, would have loved to continue down to the falls but Webb Peak was the destination for the day, Ash Creek ..... see ya next week!!!
The highlight of the climb to Webb came half way up when we watched a big black bear race through the forest just before we entered the meadow he was in. We sucked wind the rest of the way up to the peak and rested under the fire lookout tower at just over 10,000ft.
From Webb we then took the Chesley Flat trail down to the Swift Trail. The Chesley Flat section was my fav for the day, just a beautiful hike through sunflower filled meadows that I could have went back & forth through all day!
We then walked the Swift Trail back to Columbine completing a wonderful Loop.

The monsoons have hit the Pinalenos well this year. The big island is green, green, green. Water flowing down every creek and drainage, rainbow of flowers on every trail and yellow sunflowers fill every meadow. Wildlife spotted on our 2 day trip - Black bear, 14 white-tail deer, 4 Aberts squirrel and many vultures & hawks above.

I'll remember this one for years, can't wait for our "finale" next week!!!
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Yellow mountain sunflowers across every meadow, many other colors along the trails & a good variety of mushrooms in the low light sections.

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Half day trip on top of Graham with the 10,000 ft Webb Peak fire lookout tower being the main attraction for this hike. Started the loop from the Columbine corrals by first taking the Ash Creek trail down -

ASH CREEK - Still a lot of deadfall along the first .5 miles down to the boiler and Webb Peak spur. All of the aspens have dropped their leaves along this section.

WEBB PEAK - Took the spur around and up to the peak. There is now a short locked fence around the first segment of the fire lookout ladder, but is easy to climb up over. There was no sign telling you not to do this like Heliograph Peak has, so I climbed up half way before strong wind gusts forced me back down. Not sure if the tower box has been locked up too. I then took the service road down and jumped on the Chesley Flat trail just off the road.

CHESLEY FLAT - Favorite trail of the day! Half of this trail goes through an old burn, but has a cool look to it and some good expansive views to the north. Found a few nice golden aspens along the way before taking a short side trip down Blair Canyon.

BLAIR CANYON - The HAZ Yeti showed me this trail last year and I decided to revisit just the first .75 miles of this dark, cold & spooky canyon. The entire trail down was completely covered in aspen litter and I will have to put this one on next years autumn list!

SWIFT TRAIL - I then completed the loop by walking the Swift Trail (Hwy 366) back to Columbine. I'm often asked "what is the best trail in the Pinalenos?" and I always answer - It's the road that takes you up there, the Swift Trail!!!

MOONSHINE - Before leaving the mountain, I made a short stop on the drive back down and hiked the out-n-back to the very scenic Moonshine overlook.

AUTUMN OBSERVATION - Disappointing, but expected. I knew going up this year that the colors were going to be below average. There were some good patches of color, but most looked dull & flat instead of the crisp & vibrant colors of the past. I believe that the intense summer heat we had this year had a lot to do with this. I still have high hopes for some of the lower canyons which are just now starting to "peak"!

Although the fall colors were disappointing, my main goal on this trip was to visit Webb Peak and I thoroughly enjoyed all of the trails I used to complete this loop!
With the top of Graham set to close Nov 15 for the winter, this was probably my last trip to the top for 2012 and what an awesome year it was!!!
Many thanks to the Blam & Yeti for the good times shared up high this year on my favorite hill! :D
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With the group whittled down from those who left shortly after learning what real camping was like (albeit, near-car camping), the remaining few who had strength left after Ash Creek, went with me to catch sunset #2 from the Webb lookout tower.
It turned out to be a good little four group and a nice colored sunset with some rain out in front. Hiked back in the dark without turning the flashlights on.
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Webb Peak from Ash Creek THTucson, AZ
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Started on this Hike around noon. Was enjoying my campsite at Grand View too much in the morning and got a late start. By the time I hit the TH it was pretty overcast and seemed like it was threatening to rain. At the Columbine Campground where both the Webb Peak and Ash Creek Th's are, I ran into a couple that had been getting ready to backpack Ash Creek Trail. According to the Bulletin Board at the Campsite, the Ash Creek Trail was closed, due to the Fire that had been burning the week before. It was the couple's first time in the Pinalenos, and they had found the Hike through HAZ and the recent Triplogs from the Bartel/Eagle/Tortoise Expedition. They decided to cancel that Hike due to the closure and we talked for a few minutes about other Backpack and Camping options for them. They decided that the Webb Peak Hike that I was going to do sounded good for a day hike. My plan was to do the Big Loop, Ash Creek Trail to the Webb Peak Trail, up to the Peak, down the Service Road and back to the car via the Swift Trail.

I started down the Ash Creek Trail, making pretty good time until I got to the bottom of the hill. Then the "tibber mode" kicked in and I slowed considerably. The couple from the Campground caught up to me, passed me, and I never saw them again.... :lol: The Ash Creek Trail at the bottom, once you leave the heavily wooded area, is the epitome of Lush!!! Wow! Once you hit the Creeks, the vegetation is very thick, green and the wildflowers were really starting to kick it into gear. It was so lush, most of the time you couldn't even hardly see the Creeks themselves. And the blooms! Many different varieties of flowers were now blooming, creating an amazing pallet of colors.... :D

I came to the intersection with the Webb Peak Trail and took off down it. Now I was in virgin territory and it was a very pretty and scenic Hike. Of course, the AEG you lost going down Ash Creek was made up here in the first 3/4 of a mile, but then it flattened out for a little ways and you were strolling through meadows of wildflowers with an occasional peek at the Overlook views to come....Of course with all of the Wildflowers blooming, I had many a Butterfly to keep me company as well.... :D

I took a small break before the last big ascent up to the Peak and just enjoyed the surroundings. The last 3/4 mile up to the Peak is a pretty steep ascent, but I managed it, despite the rough time the elevation sometimes gives me. It kept threatening to rain, but so far I was getting lucky in that regard, and then, there I was, at the Peak!!! There is a Cabin, what looked to be an Outhouse, and a Fire Tower here. The Cabin didn't look too inhabitable, but I called out anyway, in case there was someone working the Tower. No one answered, and after taking a few pics, it was up to the Tower. No one appeared to be there either, but the door to the Tower was open and there were no signs saying No Entry, so up I went. My first time in a Fire Tower!!!

It was a very small Tower and I made the mistake of climbing it with my Pack on. I had to take off my Pack just to fit through the door!! :sweat: And then I was in! Very small and from what I could see, it appeared that this Tower, along with the Cabin, are no longer in use. And it looked like everyone who showed up here used the inside of the Tower as their Summit Log. It was full of grafitti and etched names everywhere. I never did find a "true" Summit Log, in the Tower, or at the bottom, but I didn't feel comfortable leaving a mark in the Tower, so I skipped that step completely. I spent a little time up there, taking pics and sending a few picture texts to my friends, since it was the first time I had had Cell Phone Service in the last 24 hours. Enjoyed the views immensely, even though with the Clouds, the distant views were hazy....

I climbed down from the Tower, rested a little and ate some lunch, then proceeded to start down the Service Road back to the car. I got to the end of the Service Road at the Swift Trail, and became a little confused and got a little turned around. I was thinking that the Road came out right at the Soldier Creek Campground, but instead it came out at the Soldier Camp Campground turnoff. I couldn't remember where this intersection was in relation with Soldier Creek and Columbine. I was in a bowl, so either way, right or left, was going to be uphill.... :sweat: I had forgotten to put the map in my pack, so I ended up flipping a coin in my head and went right. After about 1/2 mile uphill, I came to Big Rock and knew that I had lost the coin toss... :( Soooo, I turned around, went back down the hill and proceeded to climb the next hill, going the other way, which was correct, and that got me back to the Columbine Campground and my car.

Nice workout Hike, great Trails, and awesome Scenery!! And to top it off, Mother Nature was kind and I never did get rained on even though she threatened just about all day. Went back to my Campsite at Grand View Peak and a little later, enjoyed a gorgeous Sunset. It was a very good day!!!
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Webb Peak from Ash Creek THTucson, AZ
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Arrived at the TH at noon and headed down the ash creek trail. 50 yards in I encountered 2 people in hardhats swinging axes in the middle of the trail. I stopped and learned that they were with the Northwest Youth Corps (a youth development & outdoor education organization). They told me that they have been on the mountain for 2 weeks clearing trails and would be up here another 2 more. I continued down the trail stopping & meeting 5 more of their crew along the way. I just love these kinds of organizations and enjoyed talking to these very nice people.

After about an hour of talking with the trail crew, I made it to the webb peak spur and headed up. From here it was a real pretty hike up through the forest and to a nice little patch of aspens. The trail then went through a flat area before getting steeper and taking me up to the fire lookout tower on the peak. Climbed up the tower for some great views before leaving and taking the tower service road back down. I really thought the service road would be boring but I found it just as pretty as the trail up and was glad I decided on making this a loop hike. Made it down to the swift trail and after a short walk up the road I was back at my truck. I really liked this trail and will definitely be back to do it again!
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Mount Graham, AZ 
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Best of Mount Graham 2010

Aka "Ode to More Moderate Temperatures"...


Friday August 13, 2010 - Hell Hole/Grandview Peak
Plan to escape 110 degree plus Valley temperatures by noon was thwarted by never ending work meetings. I did get on the road by 2:30pm sans co-adventurers. Stop off at Gold Canyon Basha's to strike off those last few items on the camp shopping list and a quick text to Preston Sands to let him know I'll be passing through Safford later than planned. Turned onto the Swift Trail a little before 6pm and I'm getting concerned about waning daylight => I hate setting up camp in the dark! Now the mental checklist to find that primo camp site courtesy of Mr. Sands;
o Pass the "Restricted Access" driveway heading to the Telescope on Mt. Graham at 10,720 ft. More at http://www.eac.edu/DISCOVERYPARK/mgio.shtm and http://mgpc3.as.arizona.edu/Orientation.pdf Maybe a future tour?
o Pass the entrance to Old Columbine, then Columbine Corrals Fee Campground/Ash Creek TH and Visitor Center
o Pass Soldier Creek Fee Campgrounds
o Pass Large Rocks undeveloped recreation area
o Pass Chesley Flat TH
o First right turn after Chesley Flat should be the FR to Hell Hole and Grand View Point...
I make the turn off the Swift Trail onto the FR and gun my F-150 through a couple of mud holes. As I climb up to a saddle I spot a choice "at large" campsite on the right. The FR makes a sharp bend just beyond the campsite and a plunge down into what I presume is Hell Hole. I'm intimidated by the dark and a healthy expanse of water covering the road. So Camp Schulhauser is established on the Hell Hole Saddle => See GPS map 32.71462degN, 109.94670degW. Nice clearing provides a spectacular view of the star filled skies including the Milky Way. The Forest Service has been actively thinning the forest near the camp site making for an endless supply of fire wood. Set up the tent to the glow of F-150 headlights and fire up the propane BBQ => T-bone, mushrooms and baked potato on tonight's menu. Half a beer into my meal and I feel a headache coming on. What gives? My body altimeter has always been triggered at 10,000 feet in the past (a quick look at the GPS say 9,337 ft). Total silence grips the night only to be punctuated by a couple of hooting owls. I take a midnight stroll along the FR towards Grand View Point...

Saturday August 14, 2010 - Chesley Flat Trail, Blair Canyon Trail, Webb Peak via Soldier Creek, Webb Peak Trail, Ash Creek Trail

Rise with the sun and check the time on my cell phone => 5:38am. Grill up some bacon and eggs for breakfast, dead-out the campfire and head over to Chesley Flat.
Chesley Flat Trail => Explore the meadow and old corral. I'm unable to locate the foundations of the old Chesley homestead => http://hikearizona.com/photo.php?ZIP=36102 Undeterred, I spot the trail heading east into the forest. Lot's of downed trees as I approach the Blair Canyon Trail junction. A quick trek down this trail doesn't grab my interest, so it's back up to the Chesley Flat Trail and a steady climb towards a burned zone (remnants of the 2004 Nuttall Fire per Preston's hike description). The burned zone has been reclaimed by a riot of wildflowers => Western Sneezeweed, Western Dayflower, Richardson's Geranium standout... I follow the fire line gazing up for the Webb Peak lookout tower. The hike description warns about the trail disappearing at this point. Wandering some more without spotting the lookout tower, I decide to retrace my path back to the TH (more on this later...).
Webb Peak via Soldier Creek => Forest Service and locals have their chain saws and axes chopping up firewood at the FR88 TH. No room to park at the TH, so I pull my F-150 over to the side of Swift Trail. The ascent up the service road to Webb Peak is reminiscent of the lower sections of the Weatherford Trail. As I round a bend near the upper reaches, both the lookout tower and the upper Chesley Flat TH come into view. I head down the Chesley Flat Trail and think I spot where I gave up on the ascent up the trail. I turn back and head up to the lookout tower. View from this vantage is jaw-dropping.
Webb Peak Trail => After lingering in the lookout tower, time to make a decent down the eastern slopes towards Ash Creek Trail. I meet my first hikers of the day, a couple of adults leading about a dozen tweeners. Let's just say the tweeners all looked like they wanted to do anything but climb Webb Peak...
Ash Creek Trail #307 => This has got to be one of the best "escape the summer heat" trails in Arizona. Amble past the sawmill remnants to the slick rock and on to the falls. Everything is green, green, green! The trek back up to the TH works up a good sweat. As I approach the TH and Columbine Corrals Fee Campground, I see "tent city". All the campsites are occupied and full of activity. Quite the contrast to my Hell Hole Saddle "at large" campsite...
I follow the Swift Trail back to my parked F-150 and amble back to Camp Schulhauser about 4:30pm. I'm wiped. Sit back in a camp chair and us the opportunity to finish off Man Corn => viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5356&p=57762&hilit=man+corn#p57762

Sunday August 15, 2010 - Deadman-Highline Trail

I awake at dawn, fix some breakfast and begin to break camp waiting on the arrival of Mr. Sands. On cue, I hear a vehicle splashing through some mud holes. It's Preston. Finish packing, dead-out the firepit and it's off to DHT. We trek up the switchbacks into the "gray zone" that is Mt. Graham. Another sweet trail worthy of the 5-rating...
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Webb Peak from Ash Creek THTucson, AZ
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BEAUTIFUL HIKE AND ADVENTURE! first time reading a topo map and we took the trail Backwards that left us a bit confused till we ran into a few hikers and they saved our sorry butts! and turned our map upside down to show us where were were headed!! LOVED THE HIKE! THE WATER FALL IS WORTH THE HIKE!!!!
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a few friends and i took Preston Sands advice and hiked this trail and it was WORTH IT!!! beautiful hike!
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After exploring the remains of the High Peak Trail this afternoon, I still had some daylight left, so I decided upon Webb Peak. I started at the Ash Creek Trailhead and climbed to the top of Webb Peak in 22 minutes via the short segment of trail 345. Temperature on top: 48 degrees and breezy at 5:45 PM. Took a few shots from the fire tower, then headed down the Webb Peak Road. The sun was setting on the hike down, and shafts of blood red light shone through the trees, illuminating the few changing aspens and golden brown bracken ferns. Got back to the trailhead at dusk. Tonights animal sightings on the drive down were a skunk, a trio of foxes, and a sickly javelina. Another excellent day in the Pinalenos!
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