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Hoolie Bacon Trail #111Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking13.79 Miles 2,708 AEG
Hiking13.79 Miles   8 Hrs   19 Mns   1.75 mph
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I was enticed back to the JF/Tortilla THs with an offer I couldn't refuse...a ride. In a vehicle. Out and back on the notorious FS213. 🤣

The day started early, since we knew there was a potential for it to be fairly long, what with the planned exploration of Trap Canyon. We jostled down the road, with the conversation touching on other interesting explorations in the area - it was definitely much more enjoyable than the last time I was on the road (walking!) We arrived at the trailhead, scaring off several desert cottontails as we headed off down the trail.

After a short walk up the JF Trail, we hit the junction for Hoolie Bacon. The area around Tortilla creek was as I remembered it, though this time it had a decent amount of flowing water (with marinating cow pies). Climbing out of Tortilla Creek, looking back, there were nice views of the snow frosted Four Peaks, and as we hit the saddle, there were nice views of Music and Herman's Mountains.

On our descent towards Trap Canyon, I was glad to discover that I'm not the only experienced desert hiker who can walk right past the designated trail - I only cackled in delight a little bit 😆 and in fairness, the gents were talking amongst themselves and didn't make it far before figuring out they'd missed the curve in the trail.

Once we hit the mouth of Trap, Wally took the lead, blazing a path through the brush. The mouth of the canyon is plenty enticing, with neat geology to lure you in. Not too far down canyon, we were treated to a section riddled with metates/mortars - they were definitely more mortar shaped (circular openings, and some quite deep) than what I typically think of as metate shaped (oblong and shallow). Sadly, no sherds were found, but they could be buried under the copious amounts of sand that moves in with any large flow event.

After exploring the metate shelves, we made our way further down canyon until we hit a constriction between some house sized boulders and a pair of chockstones. The drop from the lower stone looked to be 8-10 feet and a challenge to upclimb (and the downclimb wouldn't have been particularly delightful either). We decided to turn around and return at a later date to see if we could explore Trap from the other side.

In lieu of exploring Trap, we decided to head towards Brad's Water to have a look at what remained in the area. The walk up Brad's Canyon towards Brad's Water is an exercise in finding the path of least resistance - sometimes finding a clear path on one of the benches, sometimes walking in the drainage itself, and sometimes picking your way through catclaw. Not far from Brad's Water are the remains of Brad's Cabin, which was really neat to see. The cabin remains include the concrete foundation and mortared walls along with an array of old tools including a pickaxe, some pliers, and an axe head, amongst other things.

After exploring the site, we headed back the way we came, stopping in a shady spot for lunch. The recent rains left the ground damp in places, and all that moisture certainly contributed to higher humidity levels. We were glad for the occasional breeze that kicked up as we made our way back to the trailhead (I swear there were more uphill sections that I recalled on the way in!).

It was a fantastic day to be out hiking with wonderful company - it was great to meet both Andy and Wally and get a chance to hear about their explorations in the area and elsewhere.
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a singular strawberry hedgehog was spotted in bloom.

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Hoolie Bacon Trail #111Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking13.86 Miles 2,466 AEG
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Jason suggested a visit to Trap Canyon and Brad’s Water. I have hiked right past both of these cool places but have never visited.

Wally and Stephanie joined the trek as well. Jason drove his rig down the lovely FS213. It was in great shape, and it was a smooth ride down to the JF Trailhead from Tortilla TH. Except, of course, for the near impassable rocky crap that seems to get worse with each year. It might be time to hike the extra miles soon, unless Jason is still willing to beat the crap out of his Yoda.

The weather was very nice at the start, but we figured it would heat up a bit as the day went on. We hiked through the cow pasture area and then started up to the saddle (and false saddle too). Looking down from the saddle, Music Mountain and Herman’s Mountain came into view and a still snow covered Four Peaks in the other direction.

We made it to Trap Canyon and Wally showed us some really cool metate stones, many of them. It makes you wonder how life was in this place 500-700 years ago. We made our way to the namesake of the canyon – the trap. And, we decided to turn around at the first real challenging drop down. We didn’t get a unanimous vote to keep going. Such a beautiful area. Some of the largest boulders I’ve seen in any canyon in the Supes, for sure.

We hike back out and started down to the Red Tanks/Hoolie Bacon junction. The trail get’s a little sketchy in this area. We made the turn up to Brad’s Water and found some wonderful catclaw forest. So nice to hike through there. My white long-sleeved shirt magically got a bunch of red polka dots after pushing through the nastiness.

The well/spring was really interesting. Wally said it was mine, and they struck water! Not as full as it has been in the past, I was told, but a lot of water. The little drainage coming down was also running. It was the most water I’ve seen in the Supes in a while. Wally then said there was a cabin further up. I never knew that was there. Very interesting for sure. A concrete foundation and mortared rock walls. At some point, this cabin had been a sturdy structure.

After a quick visit, we made our way across the catclaw patch and had a little lunch at the only tree along the Red Tanks Trail (that wasn’t burnt up). Off we went back up the Hoolie-Bacon Trail. A bit of a trudge going up and down, but we made it up to the saddle and then started back down towards the trailhead.

A nice day in the Superstitions. It’s always a pleasure to hike with Wally and Jason and it was nice to meet you, Stephanie!
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Hoolie Bacon Trail #111Phoenix, AZ
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A hike in the Supes with Larry(me), Curly, Moe & Shemp. Curly Miller drove the smooth road and we bounced down to the trailhead. We started early and the temps were nice. the Hoolie Bacon trail was easy to follow but got a little messy around Tortilla creek with the cattle trails. There are more ups and downs than we remembered but the climbs kept us honest. Shemp laughed at as when we missed a turn but we always found the trail again. Trap Canyon was cool and shaded but we stopped at the leap of faith. Curly was the voice of reason. Moe Dilling looked for a bypass but it led to another drop off off so we opted for Brad's Water & Brad's Cabin foundation as a plan B. There was plenty of catclaw in Brad's canyon but we endured the gauntlet. It started to warm up a bit in the sun, so we filtered water and took a break in the shade. The hike out was warm but the breeze on the saddles was nice. A good day in the Supes with a vow to return to Trap canyon from the other west end in the fall.
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Hoolie Bacon Trail #111Phoenix, AZ
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I wanted to check out some areas yesterday and after twisting arms for a minute S, Wally, and Andy were game. The road down 213 is always an adventure as it continues to deteriorate every year. Parked at the upper TH and headed up the JF Trail. After a mile, we reached the Hoolie Bacon junction and started down into Tortilla Creek, making a quick stop in Cedar Basin before climbing up to Horse Ridge. We stopped for some pics of the great views on top of the ridge then continued down through Horse Camp Basin before reaching our first destination, Trap Canyon. There is no 'trail' in Trap Canyon, it is a boulder brushy maze trying to make your way through. The Supes encyclopedia showed us an area with a ton of bedrock mortars. From there came the 2 and 3-story house-size boulders. We navigated around the first few but came to a section where the only way past it was an 8-10-foot drop. After scoping it out and not confident we could get back up if we needed to we decided to backtrack to Hoolie Bacon and continued on. Made it to the Hoolie Bacon/Red Tanks junction, made a left then after about a half mile bushwhacked up a small creek while also getting shredded by catclaw to Brad's water and the remains of Brad's Cabin. Tons of water at Brads and I highly disappointed Andy when I forgot my speedo at home so I couldn't swim it. ](*,) Wally advised there are remains of the cabin at a site just north of that, which is now an outer rock wall with an inner rock wall and concrete foundation. There are a ton of old tools and a bed still at the site. From there we found a nice lunch spot in the shade and started the uneventful hike back to the truck, where once we got to the top of Horse Ridge, Wally put the afterburners on and waited for us at the JF/Hoolie Bacon junction. Was pretty chilly at the start of the hike but got hot on the hike out as Hoolie Bacon has no shade at all from the sun. Saw a couple of backpackers at the Red Tanks/Hoolie Bacon junction asking about water and that was it for the day and no wildlife besides a couple of rabbits. Hoolie Bacon has a good amount of catclaw, most of it just off-trail some hangers will get you from time to time. I will have to try Trap from the Red Tanks side in the fall as the canyon is beautiful. Thanks, Wally, Andy, and S for joining, it's always a good time!

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Swimming pool.

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Seeping down into the creek with a small pool.
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Hoolie Bacon - Peters Trail LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking14.48 Miles 2,125 AEG
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I haven't hiked this trail since the late 90's/early 2000's....at that time I did the full loop from the official trailhead and the sparse trip report from that time mentioned faded trails and catclaw...

This most recent hike was from 88, so included the extra 6 miles of road-walking to the abbreviated Hoolie Bacon - Peters Trail loop. The established trails were easy to follow, though the regions around Tortilla Creek have some braided trails and appear to be used by cattle. Additionally, there is a fair bit of catclaw present, so take heed and dress accordingly.

The first portion of the hike along Peters Trail was quite lovely with beautiful views...the cross country bit involved navigating thickets of catclaw - aside from finding a path through the catclaw, the cross country jaunt was straightforward, especially with the help of a pre-plotted route for guidance.

I'm glad to have discovered that I still have the knack for making it through catclaw relatively unscathed. I sustained a few nicks and a scratch or two, but not bad considering I did the hike without long pants and in a sleeveless top. That low damage rate means I'm moving relatively slowly, picking my way carefully through the snaggy bits. If I had it to do again, I'd probably do the Peters trail as an out and back.
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Hoolie Bacon - Peters Trail LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Well. I am horrifically disappointed that my Jeep Grand Cherokee did not make it up Fr213. Sigh. And really, when does something cease to be called a road?? I'm bitter, I know. The hike itself was fine, but not sure the extra 6 miles RT on the road was worth it. Also not worth it... Wrecking the underside of my car!! Okay. Enough of that. Maybe...🤣🤣🤣

The on trail parts were fine and easy to follow. I wasn't sure if this would be the case given that it is a less accessible Trailhead. Less accessible to Me, anyway!! (bitterness! 🤣🤣). Not less accessible to the off road golfcarts that made it to the actual Trailhead. One of whom had an absolutely palatial canvas tent set up right next to the Peter's trail sign. There were 2 total at the Trailhead when we arrived, and the one near the Hoolie Bacon sign was gone when we arrived back at the end of the loop. We saw no people the entire day which was glorious! 😁

It was an absolutely beautiful day to be outside! The views are superb on the Peter's trail. I loved the majestic views of the ridge off to the northwest. And after finishing the climb, the views to south were also stunning. There is no clear trail to cut over to the Hoolie Bacon, just a sea of catclaw to navigate! 🙀🙀 It wasn't as bad by the Peters trail, but somewhere around halfway through the off trail section, it became catclaw central. That being said, it was still worth it to cut off the additional mileage for us. We were happy to follow the wash back up to Hoolie Bacon. After a snack, we headed up to the saddle, and then it was a steep down. The lichen-covered red ridges are a pretty sight headed back towards the Trailhead.

That last quarter of the loop is rather lackluster. It looks like a giant dirt plain in areas. Very non descript. Anyway, it was nice to be back on trail and making good time. We waited for stragglers at the actual Trailhead, and then set off on our 3 mile road walk back to the cars (grumble, grumble, bitter! 🤣).

I was so excited to try a new trail in the supes! 😁

So the question is... What type of vehicle does make it to the TH?? Clearly lots of people do (or try given the scrapes on the obstacle rocks as evidence).

No water to speak of, unsurprisingly. It certainly would be a sight after a wet spell! 😁
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A few Sycamore here and there.
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Surprised to see a few tiny purple flowers.

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We did a loop going out the JF trail and returning Tortilla creek to the Hoolie Bacon trail. The weather was perfect and the terrain not too bad. Hooile Bacon trail was much easier to follow than the JF trail. Nothing exciting to mention but a hike.
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Needed to get outside again. A warm Feb weekend, with temps in the mid 70s was softened by cloudiness both Sat and Sun.

Bland scenery on Hoolie with the fire scar taking its toll, though the views were distant. Red Tanks through upper La Barge is rough but a highlight of scenery on the loop. Dutchman is a highway in this stunning supes canyon.

FOTG had claimed the best campspot along the creek, so we settled for option 2 not wanting to encroach on a romantical weekend in the woods. ;)

We took an afternoon jaunt up Trap, which was a real treat, and one I'd like to explore the rest of the way. Unfortunately, sunset forced a turnaround and we headed back to camp for the night. A full moon lit up the sky and temps dropped to 41, about 10 lower that we had expected, but somehow we managed to survive the night.

FOTG stopped by for a few minutes in the ayem on his way out before we headed our own way down toward Charley and Peter. Climbing up to the mesa reintroduced fire damage and the mesa was a mess. The catclaw is prolific and the tread is tough to follow in some places. The five red-spray-painted rocks along the way were instrumentally important in finding the way. :-k :doh:

The last two miles along upper Tortilla is a treat with cool geology and plenty of water right now. On the drive out we passed a Jeep Liberty heading up the 213, and I'm pretty sure they were on an intentional one-way trip. Best wishes to those folks and whoever's car they stole. :sweat:
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No need for the spring, as the creek was flowing nicely. But there was nice flow from the pipe and a full springbox. It's an overgrown mess to get up to it though, and not easy to find if you don't know it's there.

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Didn't go up to the source, but there was a visible flow in the drainage at the trail crossing.

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Peters was flowing the entire length

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No sign of water at the well or trough. Plenty in the adjacent creek however.

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Didn't find the actual spring source ... plenty of flow in the canyon.

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Not too shabby of a view from this interesting peak. I spent many hours today pruning out the Acacia and some Shrub live oak along the Hoolie Bacon Trail between the JF Trail junction and the Horse Ridge saddle below Peak 4143. The trail on the ascent/descent to the saddle is eroded and rough, but now if there's any a rippin' and the tearin', you probably were looking at the scenery instead of where you were hiking. Our return included a side trip to the Lost Dutchman Mine Junior. Weird geology over there for sure and also interesting. Coffee Flat Mountain (which dominates Herman Mountain) still has some snow on its upper north aspect.
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It was necessary to modify a route up to Tortilla Mountain because I didn't account for most of the creeks in the area essentially being rivers. Which was fine because sometimes exploring off the beaten path leads to interesting discoveries. TM most definitely is a nice Supes summit, considering it's the highest point for miles around with great views, especially snowy Four Peaks. I descended a more inspiring route (I think jacobemerick's Jan.'17 track) than the official route and then integrated the crappy Rippin' and the Tearin' Horse Basin crossover and some of Fish Mesa into a CCW loop. Unfortunately, I forgot to run-up Hoolie Bacon to Peak 4143. I'll admit that HB is somewhat growing on me, since for once its banality was muted by the sound of rapids. Water reports seem superfluous currently because moisture is seeping from every crevice, side drainage and flowing down the muddy trails. And there's another storm forecasted, so it should be a good wildflower season again.
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Tortilla Super LoopPhoenix, AZ
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I didn’t have the rock crawling skills to drive to the Peters trail TH, so I parked and started from the Tortilla TH, which added another 7 miles round trip.

Peters Trail—Now I know where the term “peters out” comes from. 😄 This trail does so early and often. Nature is reclaiming this one, and in my view, having a gps track is essential. There were periodic cairns, but standing at the cairn, it was often difficult to figure out which direction to go from there. Most of this trail is pretty blah by Superstition standards, with the exception of the initial jaunt through a brief canyon, and then on the back end, as you descend to the Dutchman junction.

From there, I tacked on a quick side trip to Charlebois Spring, which was showing its fall colors and full of water, per usual. Met my first fellow traveler at the spring, a solo backpacker on his second night. We visited and he graciously guided me to the petroglyph panel. Cool to see.

From there, I headed down Dutchman and the first section of Red Tanks, both of which were smooth sailing. Enjoyed some fun fall colors at the springs.

Upper La Barge Box was a highlight. Overgrown in spots but not too bad as far as route finding goes.

Hung a left at the Hoolie Bacon junction and was concerned about a repeat of the Peters Trail route finding issues. But, while the trail is indistinct in many places and a bit brushy here and there, it is very well cairned and route finding was rarely an issue. Not particularly scenic though.

Finished the loop, and with the 3.5 mile road walk left, I knew I’d be fighting for daylight. Enjoyed a lovely sunset and threw on the headlamp for the last half mile.

Tons of solitude to be had on this loop. Long pants are a must, to keep the lacerations to a minimum. On that note, don’t wear clothes that you care about, as the desert pokies are unavoidable and will extract their cheese-grater dues.

A full day in the Supes!
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There was about a half mile of Hoolie Bacon that I needed to finish from the top of the ridge near Hermann Mountain to the Red Tanks junction. Headed up the Apache Trail to the always smooth 213, (which gets worse and worse everytime I drive it). Two vehicles at the lower TH, but none at the upper TH. Started up the JF Trail and jumped on the Hoolie Bacon Trail at the junction. As the trail got down into Tortilla Creek the brushiness picked up (mostly holly and catclaw) but it was still in pretty decent shape. Took a quick break in the shade at Cedar Basin, then started the climb up to Horse Ridge. The climb up to Horse Ridge isn't long (it's just over a mile) but it's pretty steep and slippery in some spots. Made it up to the top of Horse Ridge and started down towards Horse Camp Basin. Made a quick stop of what's left of the old wooden corral and continued on. As I got near the eastern entrance of Trap Canyon the catclaw just got out of control, it got so bad that I got immune to the pain for a bit lol. Made my way down to the Red Tanks junction, took a break and started back. I had past a couple of tents earlier in the day, but never saw the hunters, however, as I was coming back by Trap Canyon, I did hear a shot go off, but I couldn't tell the direction, so I assume they were close by. As I continued back some of the clouds that were around in the morning were gone and the sun was hot, especially climbing back up Horse Ridge. I brought 5 liters of water & Gaterade and by the time I made it back up to Horse Ridge, I only had a half liter left, so I rationed it the rest of the way. Made it back to my truck tired and thirsty but otherwise the hike back was uneventful. A bit warm, but a hike in the Superstitions is always worth it to me especially with no one else around.
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RouteScout started acting stupid once I reached Charlebois, so I suspect the recorded AEG for this hike isn't correct. At one point, it announced I hiked a nine and then three minute mile. Whatever. Starting at First Water TH, I made it to Tortilla Pass in eight hours and Angel Basin in nine. The Hoolie Bacon and JF sections are uninspiring, burnt nothingness. The rugged, beautiful, enchanting highlights are definitely the La Barge Box and Rogers Canyon. Most dangerous part of this trip was the motorcycle ride home, but lane-splitting the Ren Fest traffic was a bonus.

Edit: Joe was kind enough to point out that this hike was about 6491' AEG total. Thanks for doing that, you won't get that type of service from AllFails or OnX. I'll keep it posted as 5620' AEG, so that Joe can catch up with his bum knee!?! : wink :
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Dec 27 2022
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 Arizona
Horse Ridge Loop, AZ 
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Hiking avatar Dec 27 2022
pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking21.63 Miles 4,415 AEG
Hiking21.63 Miles   7 Hrs   38 Mns   3.02 mph
4,415 ft AEG      28 Mns Break
 
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Three liters of water & just one 8.1% beer... 67% fantastic & 33% gritty!
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Nov 30 2022
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Tortillita, AZ 
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Hiking avatar Nov 30 2022
pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking24.98 Miles 4,188 AEG
Hiking24.98 Miles   10 Hrs   23 Mns   2.54 mph
4,188 ft AEG      34 Mns Break
 
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Sarcastically diminutive title for a relentlessly brutal and endearing route. Almost every one of the linked trail sections are all about The Rippin' and the Tearin', just not in the same context as Hedo Rick! Unless the catclaw rips ones lip or tears ones sack. :o You'll also likely have some cactus spines that one of your significant others can help remove afterwards. Nitty Gritty Slitty Kitty!
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Mar 21 2022
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50 male
 Joined Mar 14 2016
 Gold Canyon, AZ
Hoolie Bacon Trail #111Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 21 2022
00blackoutTriplogs 187
Hiking6.90 Miles 680 AEG
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Had the day off yesterday and wanted to test out my lungs as I've been having issues for a bit, so I headed up the Apache Trail to the Tortilla TH. The road to the actual TH is as smooth as ever lol. Got a late start as I started up the JF trail just before 10am. Took JF to Hoolie Bacon trail down to Tortilla Creek. Except for a few very small pools the creek was dry all the way to the Cedar Basin Canyon area. From there I looked for an old pack trail (Cedar Basin Trail) that really didn't exist anymore. I found a couple of cairns, but every time I tried to follow them I regretted it as the catclaw would greet me, so decided to stay in the creek. Rock hopped a mile up to Dogie Spring and stopped for a look around. No UFO melted sand in sight so I continued on and hiked about a mile past the spring, stopped for lunch and decided to head back as the clouds rolled in and the wind picked up. Huge water pools the further up I went with some big enough to swim in. I tried keeping my feet dry, but was tired on the way out and stopped caring about keeping dry at that point. Did not see anyone the entire day as expected and got in a good 7 miles with minimal coughing issues. Great way to spend a Monday!
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Feb 06 2022
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 The Basin
Hoolie Red Tank Coffee Dutchman, AZ 
Hoolie Red Tank Coffee Dutchman, AZ
 
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survivordudeTriplogs 224
Backpack21.49 Miles 2,542 AEG
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I remember lots of burned areas and only saw 3 people the entire 2 days out there. Hoolie and Red Tanks trail faint in some areas because it all looks the same now. Water everywhere at time of hike. Camped at Reeds Water.
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Nov 10 2021
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 AZ
Hoolie Bacon Trail #111Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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wallyfrackTriplogs 1,691
Hiking9.50 Miles 1,743 AEG
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Another Wednesday stroll. Steve wanted to see metate row. I wasn't sure where it was but given the time of day, angle of the sun, shape of the moon etc, I figured we could find it. Hoolie Bacon trail was more visible this trip. The hunters have trampled down the grass (and took the seeds with them) so the first few miles were easier to stay on trail. There were a few farther down that you needed to pay attention on. The morning was nice and cool and we stopped in the shade for lunch so it only warmed up for the hike out. We some some deer hunters at the start and two guys hiking up Fr 213 on the way out. There was a little water at Horse Camp seep but nighthawk spring was dry. The fuana were hiding on this on this trip.
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Nov 07 2021
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 Chandler, AZ
Trap CanyonPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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John10sTriplogs 346
Canyoneering19.01 Miles 3,046 AEG
Canyoneering19.01 Miles   11 Hrs   26 Mns   2.08 mph
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We set out from Peralta Trailhead just before sunrise with plans to explore Trap Canyon, entering from the east side off of Hoolie Bacon Trail. We weren't sure if we'd have time to hike through the full length of the canyon and make it a loop...if not, we planned to make it an out-and-back...either way, it was going to be around 18-20 miles round trip, and we'd have to make a decision based on time and the conditions in Trap.

It was a comfortable morning, and we made good time on Dutchman but started to run into catclaw on Whiskey Spring Trail as we approached the spring. It had been almost two years since I last hiked in that area, and there's been a lot of regrowth after the wildfires, but, unfortunately, a lot of that regrowth is the sharp, thorny stuff. The spring was dry, and we trimmed a lot of branches out of our way as we hiked, but the brush slowed us down, and we still picked up a lot of scratches.

We followed Red Tanks Trail through Upper La Barge, and there was quite a bit of water in the canyon--more than we'd seen all day. Since we had a lot of miles to cover, we didn't make the climb up to Herman's Cave but continued to Hoolie Bacon #111 and headed for the east entrance to Trap Canyon. Calling #111 a trail is generous in a lot of areas...for the first quarter mile or more past the intersection with #107, it's not much more than occasional cairns, with almost no discernable route--it's clearly an area that doesn't get a lot of use.

As we entered Trap Canyon, it was clear that hiking the length of the canyon and completing the full loop was going to be optimistic for the amount of daylight we had left. But we explored some of the small overhangs/caves along the canyon wall and saw the grinding holes. It was hard to tell for sure if they are manmade or formed naturally through erosion--there were larger recessions in the floor in that area that looked natural, but some of the holes on top of the boulders were almost perfectly spherical and looked manmade...either way, an interesting area.

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We continued a little further into the canyon and started to see the massive boulders that form the traps. We didn't make it to the infamous "big" trap before reaching our turnaround time. We would have had to start scrambling down to continue further...getting down would have been no issue; getting back up might have been iffy given the slick rock and lack of handholds in some areas. It didn't seem wise to risk committing ourselves to a through hike when we were short on time and didn't know what other obstacles or pools of water were still ahead of us, so we stopped there and ate lunch on the boulders before turning around.

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We battled the catclaw again along Hoolie Bacon and decided to make a quick stop at Herman's Cave on the way out as a consolation for not getting to explore further into Trap Canyon. The climb up to the cave was less brushy than I remembered from my first visit there four or five years ago, but it seemed like there was more loose dirt this time. There was a strong skunk smell near the entrance to the cave, but at least it temporarily masked the fainter guano smell on the inside :).

On the hike out, we just followed the creek bed toward Whiskey Spring to avoid more of the brush on the trail, and we took one more short break at the Dutchman intersection to eat again before finishing off the hike. We had a nice sunset and a sliver of the moon overhead over the last few miles, and we were back at Peralta just after the sun completely set. We could see flashlights from people coming down from Peralta as we packed up. We didn't see anyone else on the trails all day, and it was fun exploring the little bit of Trap Canyon that we saw. I'd love to return to Trap and do the full through hike with someone who's done it before and knows the obstacles--there's a lot of great stuff to see in there.
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Oct 10 2021
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Hoolie Bacon Trail #111Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking11.70 Miles 1,562 AEG
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I was interested in checking out Dogie Spring and the weather was good so it was on. The Hoolie Bacon trail is over grown with grasses and catclaw. I was on trail for a while until I was off trail. Trying to find it again was a little tedious but Once back I stayed on track until the wash heading toward Dogie Spring. I though the wash would be easier but sand and silt from the Woodbury burn left several muddy areas in the creek which I hiked around. There were a few deep pools near the spring area and water was flowing down the wash. I decided to hike up the hill to the JF trail from here and the off trail was good. Once up near the JF trail I paralleled it for a bit before finding the trail. Once on trail I lost it again but followed the catclaw and got back on. The grasses from the rain obscure the trails and the annoying seeds that are usually a spring time event are now out in the fall. I saw a few white-tailed deer up on the JF trail but not much else. I saw on other hiker while walking back on FR213. It was a nice hike and a GPS is useful now to stay on trail.
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