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Nov 06 2020
bretinthewild
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Battleship Mountain from Canyon LakePhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Nice weekend in the Supes. 2-nights, 3-days. Some off-trail stuff. A Battleship summit. Avoided burned areas and camped near known water sources. As you might expect it's generally very dry out there right now.

Friday: Started from Canyon Lake on Boulder Canyon Trail, up to La Barge Box. Happy to find water in the pools. Camped for the night. Visited by a skunk at one point without incident.

Saturday: Woke up and summited Battleship Mountain. Very windy day and lots of dust blowing around all of the burned areas. After returning to camp we headed to Charlebois by taking La Barge Canyon off-trail from the box to Cavalry Trail. A route through La Barge Canyon is possible right now with a lot of bouldering. In a wetter time there may be some tricky spots. Made it to Charlebois and the spring is full and clean. My buddy saw a coatimundi near the spring the next morning.

Sunday: Back to Canyon Lake via Dutchman, Cavalry and Boulder Canyon trails (~10 miles). Saw a lot more people out with the nice weather, including a notable amount of folks trying to find the turnoff for Battleship.
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Charlebois Spring

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Big clear pools at the top

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The three largest pools still have filterable water. The best water is back in the box.
Aug 14 2020
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Beaver Turkey Loop, AZ 
Beaver Turkey Loop, AZ
 
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Nice relaxing weekend exploring this area.

On Friday we parked near the Upper Horton Springs TH and hiked into Beaver Canyon. Started to see some pools of water beyond the enclosures. Found the old red truck. We camped a little north of Beaver Park.

On Saturday we worked our way down Beaver and turned back up Turkey Creek. Camped with access to one of the better pools we saw all weekend.

Sunday we eventually climbed out of Turkey Creek to walk FR92 back to the Rim Road. Lots of aspens above the canyon on the ridge, though some have recently blown down.

Certainly met expectations for a leisurely off-the-beaten-path trip to the woods. The route finding is quite easy here and the elk trails can be very well defined. Water was a concern but we ended up coming across enough pools to make it work. Thanks to folks who have logged some trips in the area, it definitely helped in the planning.
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dry Beaver Canyon Dry Dry
Just a dry creekbed

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Beaver Canyon - Upper Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
No flow but some decent pools

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Rattlesnake Creek - Knoll Lake Topo Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Small pool just outside of the enclosure
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Jun 25 2020
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Groom Creek Loop Trail #307Prescott, AZ
Prescott, AZ
Hiking avatar Jun 25 2020
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Hiking9.00 Miles 1,700 AEG
Hiking9.00 Miles   4 Hrs      2.25 mph
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Ran up to the forest during the week to escape the heat and a certain virus. This is a nice loop in the pines. We decided to do the loop clockwise, as it makes for a steeper shorter initial climb, and longer moderate way back down. One mistake, we hiked for around 1 mile down the Isabella Trail before we realized it, missing the turn to stay on the loop. It's nice over there, but threw us off track for a while.
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Jan 20 2020
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Battleship Loop from First Water, AZ 
Battleship Loop from First Water, AZ
 
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From First Water trailhead, took Second Water to Boulder Canyon, up and over the saddle to La Barge Box. Explored up the box for a bit and enjoyed seeing many small falls and flow. Looped around Battleship through the creek and then back the way we came. Great day to be out in the Supes! Overcast and tons of water. We saw many folks packing up their camps from the night before.
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Jan 01 2020
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Utah Flats RouteNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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Annual winter trip to Grand Canyon in the books. This time we brought some new people and took the Utah Flats route over from Bright Angel to Phantom Creek, which was a first for me.

Day 1: 1/1. South Kaibab down to Bright Angel Camp. Overcast skies all day. Some snow and ice at the top but took off microspikes earlier than expected. Rained hard for a few minutes overnight without notice.

Day 2: 1/2. Day off at the bottom. I'm increasingly in favor of this strategy. We played board and card games at Phantom Ranch, hung out at the beach, saw a ranger talk and had the beef stew meal. Delicious and relaxing.

Day 3: 1/3. Hike over to Phantom Creek via Utah Flats Route. Big climb to get out of Bright Angel Canyon. The whole thing took us a lot longer than expected, despite the short mileage. Made camp at the first site as the trail drops to the creek. Enjoyed some time at the bend of the creek where the fun must begin for canyoneers.

Day 4: 1/4. Big day out of Phantom Canyon, back to Bright Angel Trail and up to Indian Garden. Felt really good on the section between the river and IG, probably because I knew I didn't have to go all the way out! Spent a cold but restful night at IG.

Day 5: 1/5. Hike out via Bright Angel from Indian Garden. Not very busy but did see many people without spikes on at the upper parts, including one guy in a Miami Dolphins sweatshirt who ate it hard on his butt twice. Quick snack at Bright Angel Lodge bar and coffee at Macy's in Flag on the way home to Phoenix.

Great trip -- I continue to enjoy the canyon in the winter months with low foot traffic and easy-to-get permits.
Nov 09 2019
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Bill Hall TrailNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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Backpack24.00 Miles 9,855 AEG
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Check this one off the bucket list. :DANCE: Awesome trip with friends over Veteran's Day weekend. We had a permit for Upper Tapeats on Saturday and Esplanade on Sunday.

Friday -- Called in some Cornish Pasty for pick-up on the way through Flagstaff. Got up to Jacob Lake and car camped off FR 461 in the pines. With a long drive from Phoenix and having not been to Bill Hall previously we opted to do most of the forest roads the following morning.

Saturday -- Drove to Bill Hall trailhead; roads all in really good shape. Hiked down and we each cached 2-3L water on the Esplanade, which we saved for the hike out on Monday. Made it down the Red Wall Break, through Surprise Valley and past Thunder River to Upper Tapeats for the night. It's a nice camp; sites are pretty spread out for privacy. Easy access to the creek. Toilet was super full (gross) and there were mice at our site. But we enjoyed nonetheless and let the creek roll us off to sleep. 8.8 miles.

Sunday -- This was our big day. Our group split up in 2 pairs. One group decided to hike back up to the Esplanade the way we came, knowing it was going to be tough enough just to get back up the Red Wall section. I opted with a friend to take the "scenic" route looping around along the Colorado River to Deer Creek Falls and back up. It did not disappoint and was probably my toughest day in the canyon yet.

Leaving Upper Tapeats, we took the route west of the creek down to the river. We thought about doing the east route but couldn't quickly find a suitable place to cross the creek. After turning up the river we opted for the lower route once it splits off, mostly because it looked shorter. There were a couple places where the trail was pretty narrow with some exposure, but it's definitely passable. Reminded me of some tight spots on the Tonto and Clear Creek trails.

We dropped our big packs at Deer Creek, got through the narrows and to Deer Creek Falls for lunch. Had the falls to ourselves for about 10 minutes before some rafting folks came by. Filled up our water at Deer Creek and started the grueling last part of our day up into Surprise Valley and over the Red Wall Break.

Sun went down on us at the beginning of the wall so we did most of it in the dark. On the Esplanade someone has tied very small reflective string to guide the route, which was super helpful at night. Made it to camp exhausted and happy. 11.5 miles.

Monday -- Relatively quick hike out but all uphill. Glad we camped at the Esplanade to cut down on some of the mileage and elevation. 3.7 miles. Called in some Diablo Burger for pick-up on the way back through Flagstaff.

Overall, great trip to a special place... If we had more time I would've liked to stay an extra night at Deer Creek to split up the hike, which would have let the others in our group experience it as well. Next time...
Oct 11 2019
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October Mazzies, AZ 
October Mazzies, AZ
 
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Backpack22.00 Miles 2,000 AEG
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Hit up the Mazzies for a long weekend. Really nice weather now that things are cooling off.

Friday afternoon/evening we hiked up Barnhardt to Chilson Camp, arriving just after dark. Plenty of water in the new spring box. Made good use of the table/bench set up. Windy and clear night on the divide.

Saturday morning we took our time and made the hike over to HCS. Set up as home base for the next two nights. Enough water directly behind camp and a lot more in the pools leading to the canyon. Took a dip in the water and hung out at the cliffs for sunset.

Sunday was a day off to hang around and explore. Loved the pace of this trip. We met two AZT thru-hikers going North to South this time of year. Went back to the cliffs twice, for lunch and sunset, to see different sections. As expected, no flow on the waterfalls this time of year, but still an incredible place either way.

Monday we made good time going mostly downhill back to the car. Met a guy in the parking lot with pack horses coordinating a supply run to Chilson with for an AZT trail crew. That was fortunate for us, because my car wouldn't start, and he gave us a jump. Phew!

All-in-all, I know this is a way more popular spot in the spring because of the waterworks -- but we enjoyed the solitude of this autumn adventure!
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Chilson Spring Horse Camp Seep

dry Big Kahuna Falls - Mazatzal Wilderness Dry Dry
No flow this time of year.

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Plenty of water in new spring box

dry Deadman Canyon Falls - North Fork Dry Dry
Nothing this time of year, as expected.

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No real flow but plenty of water in pools. Some right behind camp. Much more down the creek drainage.

dry Sandy Saddle Falls Dry Dry
No flow this time of year. Some very small drips at the bottom.
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Sep 14 2019
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Parsons Trail #144Prescott, AZ
Prescott, AZ
Hiking avatar Sep 14 2019
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Hiking8.00 Miles 600 AEG
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Went for a day hike and swim to check out this gorgeous area for the first time. Arrived at 8am to some smoke from the nearby Whiskey Fire and only one other car in the lot. Had the trail to ourselves all morning until we reached the swimming area on our way back, and at that point it was mobbed with high schoolers. Did some cliff jumping and stopped at THAT Brewery's tasting room in Cottonwood on the way home.
Aug 24 2019
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Mormon Lake - AZT #29Camp Verde, AZ
Camp Verde, AZ
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Did a portion of the AZT #29 to escape the heat. Nice stroll through the pines. Parked off 90N and hiked to the lookout on Lake View Trail and back. Interesting history with the old logging railroad.
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Apr 20 2019
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Barnhardt Trail #43Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 20 2019
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Hiking5.90 Miles 2,055 AEG
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Took a couple buddies up to the falls this Saturday. Fourth car at the trailhead at 7:30am. Perfect temps that early. Enjoyed time alone in the grotto before more groups arrived. Water still flowing but definitely lower than last month. On the way down we had to wait for a rattlesnake to clear out -- it was a couple feet up the trail and with the steep nature of Barnhardt there was no way around. Rattled at us two separate times as we tried to pass so we gave it more time to slither away. It was big but did not get a photo as it was in the tall grass/weeds. Other hikers had seen another one further up trail. Snakes are back -- watch your step!
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Mar 30 2019
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Mazatzal Divide Overnight, AZ 
Mazatzal Divide Overnight, AZ
 
Backpack avatar Mar 30 2019
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Backpack19.30 Miles 3,754 AEG
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Took Barnhardt up to the Divide and over to HCS this weekend. Lovely temps and even a little warm during the day. Saw a large group (~10) heading down to see the falls from below, not sure if they were HAZ folks or not. We explored around camp into the chain of smaller falls and pools that lead down to the big falls. At dusk we were joined by an AZT thru-hiker from Australia; he had just hit mile 424. We of course gave him a beverage and spent the night swapping stories around the fire. Great trip and can't wait to see more of this incredible area.
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Mar 16 2019
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Miners Needle LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 16 2019
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Hiking9.00 Miles 1,750 AEG
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Took a friend from out of town out into the Superstitions. Parking lots at Peralta TH were very full by 10a when we arrived. Perfect day for a hike. Stopped to check the pipe at Bluff Spring and it is broken -- the pipe is separated maybe 10-15 feet up from where it ends at the buckets. Someone tried to tape it with clear packing tape but it didn't hold so it's flowing out at the broken section. Plenty of water everywhere else, especially on Bluff Spring trail. Lots of backpackers out this weekend.

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Flowing but broken maybe 10-15 ft up from the original end point
Feb 15 2019
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Red Tanks Super Loop - Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Backpack20.00 Miles 2,870 AEG
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Water, water everywhere! Took a friend into the Supes this weekend. We did the Red Tanks Super Loop clockwise with a twist. Started Friday night by going up cardiac hill on Bluff Spring and made it to camp by dusk. Saturday we looped around to Dripping Spring via Dutchman, Whiskey Spring and Red Tanks. I hiked this loop the opposite direction a couple years ago and was glad to be going downhill after Red Tanks divide. Sunday we had a nice stroll back on Coffee Flat and Dutchman through Barkley Basin. Great to see so much moving water in the mountains!
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Feb 02 2019
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Superstition Peak 5057 via HieroPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 02 2019
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Hiking7.80 Miles 3,022 AEG
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Made it up to Superstition Mountain 5057 on Saturday. Nice cloud cover most of the hike. Only got a few rain drops during the ridge line section. First time up here -- really amazing views of Weaver's Needle. I tried this hike back in April or May last year but it was too hot and I turned around early. This time was the perfect day to finally make it to the summit. Not many hikers at all in the section between the Petroglyphs and the Ridge. A decent number of hikers out on the ridge line trail. Had the summit to ourselves for a while but met people coming down and going up.
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Jan 02 2019
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GC Loop Hermit Tonto Bright Angel, AZ 
GC Loop Hermit Tonto Bright Angel, AZ
 
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Fun 5-day winter loop in GCNP. Heckuva hike out in the snowstorm on Jan 6.

The plan
Hermit to Monument
Monument to Indian Garden
Indian Garden to Bright Angel Camp
Bright Angel up and out

Day 1
Arrived at GCNP amid the shutdown. Never got a code and drove around the Hermit Road gate (more on this later). Nice clear day but plenty of snow on the ground. Strapped on microspikes and headed down. Really helped we weren't making fresh tracks -- had a couple brave souls somewhere ahead of us. Basically, we could count on snow in the shade and dirt in the sun for the next few days. Worried for a minute about water at Monument Creek since it was cold and our first time there. But when we arrived it was flowing no problem. Had Monument Camp all to ourselves. Met a couple young guys from out-of-state day hiking from Salt Creek to Granite Rapids. They were the only people we saw our first two days.

Day 2
Headed out from Monument on the Tonto toward Indian Garden. Beautiful trail and probably my favorite day hiking of the trip. Epic views of the river. Can't beat all the snow on the canyon layers either. When we got to Indian Garden it was fairly busy. Some people hadn't followed instructions and the nearest water in camp was frozen over. But the other two spigots were working fine.

Day 3
Woke up at 4am and headed out to Plateau Point for the Quadrantids Meteor Shower. It was amazing. :o We probably saw at least 20-30 meteors in the course of an hour. The sky was so clear and it was a new moon. Of course it was cold and windy out there so we lasted as long as we could. My buddy kicking over the hot water for coffee mid boil didn't help :app: I went back to bed for a few hours and our other friend, who had hiked in at 5am during the shower, met us at camp. We then hiked down to Bright Angel Camp and had dinner at Phantom Ranch. Great day.

Day 4
Our day off. Got up for early breakfast at the canteen. Spent the rest of the day relaxing, hanging out at Boat Beach, stretching, writing postcards and playing card games. We knew the weather was going to turn that evening and the next day (rain/snow) but decided we'd still rather have a day off at the bottom of the canyon. I don't regret it.

Day 5
Up and out. It rained all night and the rain turned to snow in the morning, which I would guess is pretty rare for down at the river. The precipitation turned to a freezing rain and then into a beautiful snowstorm. It snowed all day as we trudged uphill. Got some great photos but boy it was tiring. Was very glad to have full rain gear (pants/jacket) and spikes. I made it in 6 hours and my buddies got up a couple hours later.

Here's the fun part: my car was out at Hermit's Rest and the road was not going to be plowed until at least the following day. ](*,) Our original plan was for my friend who hiked in late to drive me out there, but that wasn't going to happen. Luckily, Bright Angel Lodge had rooms available, so my friends braved the snowstorm home to Phoenix and I got to stay overnight.

Day 6
The extra day. I woke up wondering how I was going to get my car. The front desk of the lodge was SUPER helpful. First they called the Taxi company but because the road was technically "closed" they were no help. So they called the park service and somehow there was a Ranger available to take me out there. :y: The road had been plowed and she wanted to check it out anyway, so she gave me a lift. We picked up a couple backpackers hiking the road along the way. They were heading out on what sounded like a crazy, epic trip down Hermit and west on the Tonto, over to Royal Arch, where they were going to hike out on South Bass and walk the road back to the park. She quizzed them on their gear, re-wrote their permit (originally for ski camping on north rim) and we sent them on their way. I drove home.

Thanks for reading. Hope it's helpful for anyone trying to hike the canyon in a snowstorm during a gov't shutdown!
Dec 07 2018
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Miles TH to Rogers Canyon, AZ 
Miles TH to Rogers Canyon, AZ
 
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Made the best out of a couple unfortunate situations this weekend. Our original plan called for a big loop from Miles TH to Angel Basin on Friday (via West Pinto), then up to Reavis Ranch on Saturday (via Frog Tanks) and back to Miles TH on Sunday (via Fire Line and Campaign).

However, with all the rain Thursday night, on Friday morning my 2WD Hyundai Tucson SUV could not scale the initial muddy and slick ascent up the primitive road section of the 287A -- the part that starts just beyond the bridge. After a few minutes struggling with the mud, we decided to reverse and park next to a hunting camp, where we resigned to hike the road in the rest of the way and figure out a new plan.

Nearly 6 miles of uphill road hiking later, we caught a ride in the back of a pickup with a couple coues deer hunters for the last mile or so downhill, to their camp at the ranch.

From Miles TH, we continued on for about 5-6 miles up the West Pinto Creek trail. Lots of water in the creek, even flowing in some sections. The trees have largely dropped their leaves, which provided a nice mat to hike on, and some were still hanging on in the canopy. Lots of catclaw all along this trail that would get us all weekend, even with long pants and sleeves.

After passing connections to Cuff Button, Campaign and Spencer trails, the West Pinto trail heads up the canyon, giving you amazing views of the creek, trees and surrounding mountains. Because of the way the trail tends to take you above the creek, there are not many campsites to be found after the first couple miles. We finally made camp as the trail dropped down by the creek near Crockett Spring, where we found a spot big enough for our tent and an old fire ring. There, we ate dinner, failed to light a fire, and went to bed early.

On Saturday we decided that a loop was no longer an option. Instead, we would hang our heavy packs and do an out-and-back hike with day packs, returning that afternoon. Our goal was to see the ruins in Rogers Canyon, about 7 miles each way.

The West Pinto trail climbs and climbs until you reach the saddle of Iron Mountain. The trail goes from the creek and then almost straight uphill on one of the canyon spines, where eventually it becomes a highway through a thick forest of manzanita. We saw bear and mountain lion scat everywhere, as well as some tracks, but saw neither animal. There was a pool of water in Iron Mountain spring, which was barely flowing and full of leaves. Besides our campsite, we saw one other spot down by the creek where you could camp in this section, just before the climb begins. But otherwise it was pretty slim picking for campsites. We also did not see any other people in the West Pinto side of the canyon the entire weekend.

Up and over Iron Mountain, you get a nice view of some of the West Supes, and it drops you down pretty quickly to Rogers Trough TH. From there we took Reavis Trail and then Rogers Canyon Trail -- and hey, here are all the campsites! Haha. We made it to Rogers Spring, where we searched for the ruins for a little while, but with no luck and time running out we turned back around. I realized later we had to go further down toward Angel Basin to find them. For another time!

We made our 14 mile day hike back to camp in about 6 hours, and then grabbed our heavy packs and hiked another 3 miles back toward the trailhead to give ourselves a headstart on Sunday. We were hopeful maybe we could hitch a ride with someone on the road the next day but we couldn't be sure. We camped near the junction of West Pinto and Cuff Button trails, a nice open spot with lots of nice clear deep pools in the creek. We got a fire going and enjoyed the stars.

Sunday we woke up to frost, trudged out and hiked the road all the way back to the car, about 9 miles in all. Only saw a couple trucks on the road and neither were going our way.

The roads were way better driving out after a couple dry days with clear sunny skies. Maybe in those conditions my car would actually make it to Miles, but as of right now I think I'm going to give it a minute before I get back over that way. Definitely glad we did, though.
Nov 02 2018
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Loop to Battleship from First Water, AZ 
Loop to Battleship from First Water, AZ
 
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At a neighborhood music festival last weekend we made a new friend and convinced him to come on his first backpacking trip with us. Six days later he was in the car heading to the trail head... :)

Day 1 / Friday
Hit the trail from First Water at 5p. Took the loop clockwise on Second Water. Had light until we got to Second Water Canyon. Camped near Second Water Spring, around 3.25 miles from the car. Great spot, but had some mice this time. Hang up your stuff.

Day 2 / Saturday
Packed up in the morning, finished off Second Water and headed south on Boulder Canyon. Took the cairned route up and over the southern Battleship Saddle and down into La Barge Box. Snagged the campsite and filled up at the pools around the bend, which were clear and deep.

Made our way back up to tackle Battleship Mountain. My first time up there. It's intimidating from below and a couple spots as you go are of the "don't look down" :scared: variety, at least for me. Ate lunch on the way and half our group went back, while my buddy and I continued on to the summit. Definitely a highlight of the trip.

Around sunset a couple came up La Barge Canyon with their 3 dogs. They ended up camping in the box, just around the bend. Must have found a solid flat spot back there.

Day 3 / Sunday
We decided to loop out by finishing off Boulder Canyon south and taking Dutchman Trail back to the car at First Water. It was a nice and sunny day; I was definitely feeling the Battleship hike from the day before. Sections of Boulder Canyon Trail were a bit grown over; I would recommend long pants.

Estimating around 16 miles for this loop including Battleship. Nice to be able to hang out, camp and make the summit with day packs. Another excellent trip to the Supes! :y:

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No flow but LOTS of water in the big deep pools.

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No flow but plenty of water from recent rains.
Oct 14 2018
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 Phoenix, AZ
First Water to La Barge Box, AZ 
First Water to La Barge Box, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 14 2018
bretinthewild
Hiking10.00 Miles
Hiking10.00 Miles   5 Hrs   30 Mns   2.00 mph
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1st trip
Been wanting to get over to the box, and with >2 inches of rain the day before, it seemed like a great time to go.

Decided to hike out and back from First Water TH. Took Second Water Trail to Boulder Canyon Trail, then up and over to La Barge Box on the south side of Battleship Mountain.

Reading up beforehand, it sounds like most people get there by hiking up from Canyon Lake, but I found this out-and-back route very modest and enjoyable.

So much water everywhere! Great to see.

I estimate the hike was about 5 miles each way (unless someone actually knows); it took us 5.5 hrs including a 30 min lunch break at the pools. Caught a nice sunset hiking out.

Amazing area -- can't wait to go back.
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La Barge Canyon Second Water Canyon

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Large pools, lots of flow, heavy rain the day before.

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Lots of pools and some flowing water throughout the canyon. Rained heavily the day before.

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Large pool and flowing water. Lots of rain the day before.
Sep 20 2018
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Cabin Loop - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Backpack avatar Sep 20 2018
bretinthewild
Backpack23.00 Miles 950 AEG
Backpack23.00 Miles4 Days         
950 ft AEG
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Drove up to Pinchot Cabin on a Thursday. We stayed there Thursday and Friday nights. On Friday we took a day hike over to Fred Haught Spring and Cabin. There's a nice camping spot there I want to try one day. On Saturday we took off clockwise on U-Bar to a camping spot near Coyote Spring, just off Barbershop Trail to the west of U-Bar. We stayed there Saturday night. Finished the loop off on Sunday via Barbershop and Houston Brothers. Really fun relaxing weekend. Love this place.
Apr 27 2018
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Romero Canyon Trail #8Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Backpack avatar Apr 27 2018
bretinthewild
Backpack24.00 Miles 6,300 AEG
Backpack24.00 Miles3 Days         
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2 nights and 3 days out in the Catalinas

Day 1
~5 miles to camp

Hit the Romero Canyon Trail at 5p Friday night from Catalina State Park with a few good friends.

Tough hike up with heavy packs filled with extra water, since we weren’t positive on the water situation at our first camp. Still had sunlight a little past Romero Pools but not for too long.

Made it ~5 miles and ~2000 ft elevation gain to Old Trail Camp around 8p and I felt like I was moving pretty good. Still took longer than I thought and hiked the last 45 minutes in the dark. Rest of the crew made it by 8:30.

Great campsite in a grotto of trees right on the trail - you can’t miss it. Lots of space, nice fire pit, and best of all, pools with a running spring right behind the site. Not big enough to swim but perfect for pumping water.

We did find a black rattlesnake under the pile of old stuff left by a big rock.

Day 2
~4 miles to camp, then ~6 miles RT to Hutch's Pool

Finished off the last ~2 miles of Romero Canyon Trail, all uphill and over the pass.

Connected on West Fork Trail at the top of the pass, descended around 2 more miles to reach our Saturday night camp, at the junction of West Fork and Cathedral Rock trails. Dropped packs here and set up camp.

Another really nice, shaded, large campsite with an established fire ring. Only downside was no water source, though a note we found in a Geocache said there was an accessible pool a mile or so down the trail. We never looked hard for it since we had already planned to day hike to Hutch's Pool and back.

We set off the rest of the day to make the 6 mile round trip hike to Hutch’s Pool for water, swimming and cliff jumping. It lived up to the hype.

Nice hike, all downhill getting there. About half of it with tree cover and half exposed as you near the pools.

Only saw 2 day hikers at the pool. We submerged some beers to refrigerate and waded down to the deep end.

Thanks to whomever left the rope on the boulder to get up to the cliff jumping spot. It’s a little tricky from the water but totally doable. A bit easier if you walk all the way around from the backside, but what’s the fun in that?!

Hike back up to camp is all slightly uphill and tiring after a long day but the trip to Hutch's Pool is definitely worth the effort. You could also camp right there on the beach, but you'd likely have company.

Day 3
~9 miles to car

Completed this as an out-and-back trip, hiking ~2 miles up and over the pass on West Fork Trail and ~7 more down Romero Canyon Trail to the parking lot.

Stopped at Romero Pools to cool off on the way back. Saw more folks there and on the way out than we had seen all weekend.

After some well-earned victory beers from the cooler, had to hit up In-N-Out, right across the street.
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Deep end probably 20+ feet deep. First time there so hard to gauge how full but it had water end-to-end.

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Spring was flowing behind the campsite, some small but nice pools. Good water.

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Nice deep pools, flow in some areas
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