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Peters Trail #105 - 23 members in 103 triplogs have rated this an average 3.2 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Apr 19 2025
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 Tempe, AZ
Tortilla Mountain - Superstition WildernessPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking14.93 Miles 4,212 AEG
Hiking14.93 Miles   8 Hrs   34 Mns   2.07 mph
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I had never even looked at this one, apparently part of my unintentional superstitious blind spot. It had been on John's list and upon discussing the phenomenal late-April weather, we decided to make this one the goal on what is nearly certain to be the last tolerable Stits hike of the season.

We opted to do the reverse of what we continually referred to as the @jacobemerick route. We deviated from his route a bit, probably because the view looking up presented some different looking options than he had on the descent. Regardless, this was a really enjoyable route to the summit with minimal obstacles, only a couple of moderately steep climbs, and easily avoided catclaw.

It was about 2.5 miles and 1500 feet from our crossing of Tortilla Creek until reaching the northern reaches of the Tortilla Mountain ridgeline. From there it was another mile and 500 feet more to reach the distinct summit, with a couple of added highlights along the way.

After not stopping for so much as a sip of water on the 3 hour ascent, we spent a solid break enjoying the views at the top, which extended from the Galiuros to the Catalinas, White Tanks, Bradshaws, Pine Mountain, the Mazzies from Lion to Sheep, Ord and Browns, and the Ancha — the latter four caked in spring snow. Poofy clouds lingered from yesterday's storm and enhanced the views and photos.

After adding our names to the summit register, we opted to descend via the official route as posted on HAZ, which is a pretty miserable option. It would certainly be a better climb than descent, but the Emerick route was so much more pleasant, I'm not sure I would ever do this route again! The only benefit was that you do eventually reach the maintained Peter's Trail, so it's only 1.5 miles of off-trail. But the 1500 feet of elevation is highly concentrated on the upper half of the mileage and is replete with loose scree, prickly flora, and no particularly intuitive or pleasant-looking route. Doable? Sure. Enjoyable? Not so much.

Once on Peter's we made quick time out to the trailhead where we opted for the scenic return along the cliffs above Fish Creek Canyon. (I refuse to accept that a mountain or mesa can be named "fish" lol). This stretch is a favorite alternative to walking the 213 and with the perfect weather, did not disappoint.

Temps hovered in the low 60s most of the day, topping out at 67 as we finished up and the afternoon sun made a more steady appearance. Often enough the clouds and cool breeze resulted in being borderline chilly. Not a bad thing for this time of year!

This turned out to be a really enjoyable loop. Lots of variety, perfect weather, and top notch views. The official route? Yeah, find a different way! Lol.
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Tortilla Mountain - Superstition WildernessPhoenix, AZ
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We pulled together a plan late on Friday evening, with a fantastic weather forecast for Saturday. I'd had Tortilla on my list for a few years and threw that out as an option...exactly the smooth, on-trail hike chumley was looking for :). After overnight rain, some of the low peaks were still in clouds on the drive and early in the hike. No other vehicles in the parking lot, and it was in the low 50s as we started up FR 213.

We had a few route options loaded and decided on the loop, leaving the road after less than 1.5 miles to start the climb. We loosely followed the 2017 @jacobemerick route up a ridge, past some alcoves, then down into a drainage with quite a few bedrock pools. From there, we checked out a concrete dam, then resumed the climb up to the ridgeline that would take us south to the peak, and the views of the western Supes opened up nicely.

We opted to go up and over the top of the rock outcroppings on the ridgeline to avoid side-hilling through brush. That worked out well, though we did hit one spot that started to get sketchy, but a short backtrack revealed a chute with a much easier bypass. We detoured over to a window in the rock outcropping a little north of the summit--cool geology and formations in that area, then over to the summit with a straightforward scramble up the NE side.

We had cloud cover and cool temps on top, and the 360° views from the peak were fantastic. Many, many Superstition, Mazzy, Goldfield, and other distant landmarks visible. We took a long break up there and enjoyed our first food/water of the hike, then signed the register before starting down.

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We dropped down the south side of the summit block, which was mostly vertical and included some unfortunately placed catclaw and various pokey things to keep it extra interesting, but it worked out. We considered a few route options and decided to descend the drainage on the official route. Very steep and loose toward the top, but it was manageable, and distance-wise, it wasn't too long before we were back on Peter's Trail, which had been recently cleared.

Rather than walking 213 back to the parking lot, we hiked up to Fish Mesa and enjoyed the incredible views overlooking the creek. Past the benchmark, we took a relaxing break in the shade of the lone juniper before following the mesa edge north. By that time, the clouds had finally cleared off Four Peaks. Looping back to the road required crossing two drainages--one smaller, then down into a deeper creek bed, navigating a series of layered-rock levels. On the far side, we picked up a ridiculously over-cairned trail that connected to the road to finish it off.

Fun day all around--comfortable temps that stayed under 70° all day, nice clouds, great peak with scenic views, no new holes in the shorts, more flowers than I've seen on any other hike this year, plus we found some small ruins. Absolute gem of an April day, and I'm glad I suggested Tortilla and it worked out--the day exceeded high expectations.
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Music Mountain via Peter's Trail #105, AZ 
Music Mountain via Peter's Trail #105, AZ
 
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Hiking7.33 Miles   7 Hrs   29 Mns   1.89 mph
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Was aiming to do Music Mountain and possibly Tortilla Mountain in the same trip. Managed to drive our 4WD high-clearance vehicle past Tortilla Trailhead along SR213 to Peter's Trail #105 Northern Terminus where we started the hike, saving a total of around 6 miles. This drive would not be possible without both high-clearance and 4WD. There are some steep steps to climb at the start of this drive.

Peter's Trail was easy to follow and most of the intruding catclaw had been cleared by prior trail users.

We followed a route from Adam Walker for the ascent, leaving Peter's Trail after Kane Spring and heading directly south towards the eastern side of the summit. Approaching the climb, the catclaw was high and dense but I managed to avoid most of it by scrambling along a waterfall area, swapping the spikes for the less spikey scrub oak. I reached the saddle, opening up the view to the southern part of the range and continued west to the summit cairn. The sheets of paper inside the jar in the summit cairn were last signed in 2023 by Adam Walker whose route we had followed.

As my hiking partner was doing a SOTA activation at the summit (first activation of this peak) we took a long break there, before descending directly north from the summit, picking our way through the brush on what felt like a slightly steeper descent, and rock hopping back to the wash and eventually Peter's Trail.

By the time we were down it was about 3pm and the clouds were coming in fast with a storm. I, being slower and behind, got some light rain which we were expecting but it was obvious that we'd have to save Tortilla for another time. As we finished the drive back out of SR213 it started to pour on the way home.

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Small pools and light flowing down the spring after heavy rain.
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Peters Trail #105Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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I hiked up from road AZ 88. It is about 3 miles from this trailhead. If one has a true 4 wheel drive with very high clearance it is possible to drive the first 3 miles. However, after hiking in this road, I found a man whose 4 wheel drive had given up. This was a fairly remote area to be driving alone. Be careful out there folks!

I then started up Peter's Tail for my first time. I have visited here before but didn't go down this trail. Today I hike up about 0.6 miles. The trail is sometime in the creek and sometime next to the creek. Watch very carefully for cairns. The trail was recently clean from over growth. The Cat's Claw brush was pleasantly cut back in many sections.

I explored as I intend to through hike one day from here to Whiskey Creek or to First Water.
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Peters Trail #105Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking12.11 Miles 2,104 AEG
Hiking12.11 Miles   7 Hrs   38 Mns   1.79 mph
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Jason wanted to hit this one and I have never hiked on this trail from the JF Trailhead. He sealed the deal by offering to drive his rig down 213, sparing my poor beat up truck. I invited Chris to come along and he agreed.

We made it down the lovely FS213 to the trailhead about 7am and started off. It was a little chilly at the start in the shade. The trail starts along Tortilla Creek and then breaks off to go up and over a saddle on the tail end of Tortilla Mountain. Very steep and rough climb. We came across a few rogue cows near Kane Springs and that was extent of our critter sighting.

Once we made that saddle, there’s a little dip until we hit the next climb to the next saddle. The hike down to Peters Canyon from there was really rough and steep as well. Peters Canyon was very nice with views of Tortilla Mountain and Malapais Mountain along the way. Parts of the trail were hard to follow and this year’s crop of catclaw was definitely a bumper, but it was pleasantly flat.

The climb up to Peters Mesa was the least horrible climb of the day. We came to a consensus that we would turn around from top of the mesa rather than make the hike down to the Dutchman junction. After a little lunch and rest, we started back towards the trailhead.

We were all dreading the climb out of Peters Canyon, but it was managed ok. The second saddle seemed to be tougher, even though it was not as steep. All that was left was the hike down the steep path back to Tortilla Creek. That bothered me a little as my legs and hips were feeling it. I managed to make it down with only one slip. Luckily, I landed on my read end, rather than my head on heels slip in Peters Canyon in the grassy/rocky wash. Graceful and adroit as always.

We made it back to the truck about 3pm. A long day in the Supes, but a nice hike. The trail was well-defined, but rough. Lots of loose rocks, steep sections, ever-present thorny and ill-tempered flora and 12+ miles. The drive out is part of the adventure as well. Jason was eager to “break in” his new skid plates and the road gladly obliged him.

What is clear is we need some rain. It is so dry out in the wilderness, scary dry.
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Peters Trail #105Phoenix, AZ
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Andy had never been up on Peters Mesa before so he and Chris were game. Drove up 88 and then down the ultra-smooth FS213 to the Tortilla TH and parked next to the old water tower. At the start, the trail was easy to follow but had its share of catclaw and Holly which felt so wonderful in 36-degree coldness. After a mile, the trail starts to climb up to Horse Ridge. The climb is steep and slippery with tons of loose rock. The trail makes a small descent and then rises to a ridge before dropping into Peters Canyon. After a few miles in the Canyon, the trail climbs up to Peters Mesa where it has small ups and downs before a big drop down near Charlebois. At the high point overlooking Charlebois Canyon, we had lunch and started back. It got a little warm on the way back through Peters Canyon and the hike up to the first ridge was blah. The hike down from Horse Ridge was knee-pain-friendly as we were ice skating on the loose rocks the entire time. Came across a very small pool just above Kane Spring (I did not check Kane Spring for water, but usually, there is some there), otherwise it was completely dry the entire time. A long, but good day in the Supes with no other humans around. Thanks, Andy and Chris for joining.
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Peter's MesaPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking12.22 Miles 2,138 AEG
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It’s kind of an unwritten rule that if you get invited to hike in a remote part of the Supes and someone volunteers to drive FR213, you have to say :yes: . I hadn’t figured out where to hike yet when Andy told me he and Jason were going to Peter’s Mesa and that Jason would drive. Easy choice to make. I hiked this trail one time before 18 years ago and it was my first official HAZ hike in that I hiked with and met 3 HAZ members and also made my first triplog. A lot my memories of it were hazy, but they came back as I did the hike.

Driving FR213 is hard enough. Driving it in the dark adds an element of difficulty. :scared: Even as a passenger it’s not an easy ride. Two gates have been installed on the road now, which seems to be a pretty recent development.

We started off from the trailhead with the temperature at 36. Jason was about to start hiking down a catclaw choked drainage that was next to the trail marker that almost looked like a trail until I pointed out the arrow on the sign pointing to the left, down the near dirt road that continued a little further. It narrowed soon enough and followed Tortilla Creek. Just after the first mile it starts to climb up the first saddle. That climb was pretty rough with how steep it was, combined with the loose rock. The entire hike for me was very slow going. It didn’t really seem very strenuous for me, but the rip rap on the majority of this trail just slows me down. Y-Bar seems to be a good comparison. : rambo :

After the first saddle the trail descended a little bit and was easier to hike, then ascended a little bit to the 2nd saddle. Just below the 2nd saddle I lost the trail for a bit to one of the several side cattle/game trails that branch off. You have to keep your eyes open for most of this to make sure you’re still on the trail.

After the 2nd saddle (directly south of Tortilla Mountain), the trail makes a rough, steep descent into Peter’s Canyon and then levels off. The level part is a little easier to hike but we all lost the trail in a couple spots due to the overgrown catclaw. I had my sweatshirt on so the catclaw didn’t really bother me that much, especially after our experience with the Story Mine earlier this month in the Mazatzals.

The trail heads up out of Peter’s Canyon to Peter’s Mesa after a couple miles. Andy and Jason waited for me to catch up before we made it up. Jason originally had the idea to hike the entire trail out to the Dutchman Trail and back, but by this point none of us were really feeling that. We got to the overlook just as the trail makes the final descent down to the Dutchman Trail and had lunch there. Looking down at the creek in LaBarge Canyon we knew there was no way were walking down another mile just to turn around and come back up. :stop: [-(

The hike back was also very slow going for me. I usually speed up a bit more as the day goes on, but the loose rock and steep parts of the trail were bad. The hike back up the 2nd saddle was some work, the higher you get the steeper the trail is. The worst part was the hike down from the first saddle back into Tortilla Creek. It’s the 2nd to last mile of the hike for the day and it took the longest. Once I got past that, the last mile along Tortilla Creek wasn’t so bad.

Got to the trailhead about 3pm with Andy and Jason waiting. The ride back on FR213 was a little easier in the daylight, especially since I wasn’t driving. Along the last brutal segment on the bare rock Andy and I got out of the car and made some video documentation of how to successfully navigate the steps on that road. Jason might make an instructional video on his YouTube channel so everyone can learn. :lol: :rollH:
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Hoolie Bacon - Peters Trail LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Well. I am horrifically disappointed that my Jeep Grand Cherokee did not make it up Fr213. Sigh. And really, when does something cease to be called a road?? I'm bitter, I know. The hike itself was fine, but not sure the extra 6 miles RT on the road was worth it. Also not worth it... Wrecking the underside of my car!! Okay. Enough of that. Maybe...🤣🤣🤣

The on trail parts were fine and easy to follow. I wasn't sure if this would be the case given that it is a less accessible Trailhead. Less accessible to Me, anyway!! (bitterness! 🤣🤣). Not less accessible to the off road golfcarts that made it to the actual Trailhead. One of whom had an absolutely palatial canvas tent set up right next to the Peter's trail sign. There were 2 total at the Trailhead when we arrived, and the one near the Hoolie Bacon sign was gone when we arrived back at the end of the loop. We saw no people the entire day which was glorious! 😁

It was an absolutely beautiful day to be outside! The views are superb on the Peter's trail. I loved the majestic views of the ridge off to the northwest. And after finishing the climb, the views to south were also stunning. There is no clear trail to cut over to the Hoolie Bacon, just a sea of catclaw to navigate! 🙀🙀 It wasn't as bad by the Peters trail, but somewhere around halfway through the off trail section, it became catclaw central. That being said, it was still worth it to cut off the additional mileage for us. We were happy to follow the wash back up to Hoolie Bacon. After a snack, we headed up to the saddle, and then it was a steep down. The lichen-covered red ridges are a pretty sight headed back towards the Trailhead.

That last quarter of the loop is rather lackluster. It looks like a giant dirt plain in areas. Very non descript. Anyway, it was nice to be back on trail and making good time. We waited for stragglers at the actual Trailhead, and then set off on our 3 mile road walk back to the cars (grumble, grumble, bitter! 🤣).

I was so excited to try a new trail in the supes! 😁

So the question is... What type of vehicle does make it to the TH?? Clearly lots of people do (or try given the scrapes on the obstacle rocks as evidence).

No water to speak of, unsurprisingly. It certainly would be a sight after a wet spell! 😁
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Surprised to see a few tiny purple flowers.

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Hoolie Bacon - Peters Trail LoopPhoenix, AZ
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I haven't hiked this trail since the late 90's/early 2000's....at that time I did the full loop from the official trailhead and the sparse trip report from that time mentioned faded trails and catclaw...

This most recent hike was from 88, so included the extra 6 miles of road-walking to the abbreviated Hoolie Bacon - Peters Trail loop. The established trails were easy to follow, though the regions around Tortilla Creek have some braided trails and appear to be used by cattle. Additionally, there is a fair bit of catclaw present, so take heed and dress accordingly.

The first portion of the hike along Peters Trail was quite lovely with beautiful views...the cross country bit involved navigating thickets of catclaw - aside from finding a path through the catclaw, the cross country jaunt was straightforward, especially with the help of a pre-plotted route for guidance.

I'm glad to have discovered that I still have the knack for making it through catclaw relatively unscathed. I sustained a few nicks and a scratch or two, but not bad considering I did the hike without long pants and in a sleeveless top. That low damage rate means I'm moving relatively slowly, picking my way carefully through the snaggy bits. If I had it to do again, I'd probably do the Peters trail as an out and back.
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Added bonus of a great motorcycle ride of the Apache Trail on a perfect weather, not too busy afternoon. One of the recent forums (can't find exact link), there was a debate about biking SR 88. On a weekday, this just might work between these two trailheads, but below Tortilla Flat to the marina would be iffy. Aren't some of those snowbirds drinking alcohol with their meals? :-k
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Bluff Springs Trail #235Phoenix, AZ
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Myself, Katie and the three dogs completed a nice overnight backpack into LaBarge Country. We started at the chaotic Peralta trail just before 8:00 a.m. However, it did not take long to get past the masses of people and noise, as after the first mile or so, we only ran into a few pairs of backpackers as we made our way to the nice campsite near Oak Spring.

The Oak Spring site took a bit of a beating from the fire, but it and the surrounding country is slowly recovering and for the most part the site still maintains its previous charm. Katie went to the creek with the three dogs to set up a hammock and dive into a book, while I headed to Music Canyon to find some nostalgia.

The old campsite still exists, but its a bushwhack to get to. In fact, the opening stretches of Music Canyon were quite the scrambling bushwhack. At times, it made more sense to wade through thigh deep pools and maintain the creek bottom vs trying to stay dry. There was however, a little pay off to the rugged canyon, as some there were some nice stretches of slick rock with flowing water and a few scenic cascades along the way. My memory got a little more fuzzy the deeper into the canyon I pushed and I started to wonder if I would be able to locate the nice overhang sites my good friend Jim showed me over a decade ago. In fact, according to my archives the last time I was at the overhang sites was December of 2012. In spite of my fuzzy memory and the travel up canyon being harder than I had remembered, I finally found the site, which was due in part to some well timed deja vu and a little luck.

The overhang sites were actually more impressive than I had remembered. One overhang had a least 6 grinding holes and a manos in it while the other site (main site) contained some very intriguing white dots (pictographs) on the ceiling as well as a rich assortment of flakes and several plainware pottery type sherds. A historical mining prospect and claim were located near the overhangs as well. I spent a considerable time at the overhangs and then made my way back down Music, however, about half-way down I exited the canyon to the west and picked up Peters Trail, which I took back down to Dutchman and our campsite.

It was a great night under the full moon and we got to see it rise and set in the morning. Beautiful overnight temps and great conditions overall. On our hike out, I stopped and visited some familiar faces and then we continued our short hike out, finishing up around 11:30 a.m.
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We saw six poppies sparsely sprinkled about the hillside on a section of Bluff Springs Trail.

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Needed to get outside again. A warm Feb weekend, with temps in the mid 70s was softened by cloudiness both Sat and Sun.

Bland scenery on Hoolie with the fire scar taking its toll, though the views were distant. Red Tanks through upper La Barge is rough but a highlight of scenery on the loop. Dutchman is a highway in this stunning supes canyon.

FOTG had claimed the best campspot along the creek, so we settled for option 2 not wanting to encroach on a romantical weekend in the woods. ;)

We took an afternoon jaunt up Trap, which was a real treat, and one I'd like to explore the rest of the way. Unfortunately, sunset forced a turnaround and we headed back to camp for the night. A full moon lit up the sky and temps dropped to 41, about 10 lower that we had expected, but somehow we managed to survive the night.

FOTG stopped by for a few minutes in the ayem on his way out before we headed our own way down toward Charley and Peter. Climbing up to the mesa reintroduced fire damage and the mesa was a mess. The catclaw is prolific and the tread is tough to follow in some places. The five red-spray-painted rocks along the way were instrumentally important in finding the way. :-k :doh:

The last two miles along upper Tortilla is a treat with cool geology and plenty of water right now. On the drive out we passed a Jeep Liberty heading up the 213, and I'm pretty sure they were on an intentional one-way trip. Best wishes to those folks and whoever's car they stole. :sweat:
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[ checklist ]  LaBarge Spring

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No need for the spring, as the creek was flowing nicely. But there was nice flow from the pipe and a full springbox. It's an overgrown mess to get up to it though, and not easy to find if you don't know it's there.

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Didn't go up to the source, but there was a visible flow in the drainage at the trail crossing.

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Peters was flowing the entire length

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No sign of water at the well or trough. Plenty in the adjacent creek however.

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Didn't find the actual spring source ... plenty of flow in the canyon.

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Feb 23 2024
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SuperThru Campaign-First Water, AZ 
SuperThru Campaign-First Water, AZ
 
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JamesPTriplogs 15
Backpack45.00 Miles 7,241 AEG
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This hike was done on 2/23-2/26/24. Greg O., James P. and Jason M. made our way to Campaign TH from First Water at 4pm Friday. Arriving at 630pm, we camped above Campaign Creek just a few miles in on J-B Road. Up at dawn on Saturday and on Campaign by 730am. I have been here many times, working with Peter Bigfoot and visiting the high spots in the Eastern Superstitions. I was inspired to do this hike because of Peter's stories of taking groups through the wilderness without food or water on a true survival trek. Of course, we brought our own food.

From Campaign 256 we made our way up Reavis Gap 117 where Greg O. had to depart. We could not have done this hike without his effort to drive us to Campaign from First Water. Jason and I continued on to Reavis Ranch 109 where we were alone and had a restful lunch. We made our way to Elisha Reavis' grave and further on to Roger's trail 11o to the Cliff Dwellings and Angel's Basin for camp. We figured we had done 17 miles the first day. All Trails and On X Off Road had slightly different numbers for our hike.

Sunday we took off for Tortilla Pass via Rogers Trail and caught the JF trail 106. This eventually took us to the Northern end of the wilderness near Tortilla Ranch and Peter's trail 105. We took our requisite 1 hour break, shoved the food .down and walked up to the shoulders of Peter's Mesa. Got off trail a number of times I like cairns! We were pretty shot at this point and more or less fell down Peter's trail to Dutchmans 104 right by Charlebois. Water was not a problem in any of the drainages at this time of year following some heavy rains and snows two weeks prior.
We crossed the creek and stayed on the other side of the water in the bigger, sandier campsites. The weather was perfect all weekend. In the 70's with overcast most of the 2.5 days. On Monday I woke up as the sky was sprinkling on our tents. I packed up, bid Jason goodbye, and begun the hike back to my truck at First Water. I had been asking that we were on trail by 700am Saturday and Sunday so, after making it to Dutchman's Jason knew he could sleep in and hike out when he was ready.

Looking forward to even more challenging routes in the Superstitions next season!
 
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Fish Taco with Bacon, AZ 
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Hiking17.24 Miles 3,789 AEG
Hiking17.24 Miles   7 Hrs   54 Mns   2.37 mph
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It was necessary to modify a route up to Tortilla Mountain because I didn't account for most of the creeks in the area essentially being rivers. Which was fine because sometimes exploring off the beaten path leads to interesting discoveries. TM most definitely is a nice Supes summit, considering it's the highest point for miles around with great views, especially snowy Four Peaks. I descended a more inspiring route (I think jacobemerick's Jan.'17 track) than the official route and then integrated the crappy Rippin' and the Tearin' Horse Basin crossover and some of Fish Mesa into a CCW loop. Unfortunately, I forgot to run-up Hoolie Bacon to Peak 4143. I'll admit that HB is somewhat growing on me, since for once its banality was muted by the sound of rapids. Water reports seem superfluous currently because moisture is seeping from every crevice, side drainage and flowing down the muddy trails. And there's another storm forecasted, so it should be a good wildflower season again.
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Supes Walkabout, AZ 
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Hiking24.88 Miles 4,069 AEG
Hiking24.88 Miles   10 Hrs   40 Mns   2.46 mph
4,069 ft AEG      32 Mns Break
 
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Dec 29 2023
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Tortilla TH to Tortilla WellPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking14.31 Miles 2,295 AEG
Hiking14.31 Miles   8 Hrs   35 Mns   1.93 mph
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Third times a charm for getting up Music Mountain. Many pokeys, much catclaw. Route down was much less painful than the route up. Peters Trail to the turnoff is in decent shape.
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Tortilla Mountain - Superstition WildernessPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking12.13 Miles 2,532 AEG
Hiking12.13 Miles   9 Hrs   10 Mns   1.60 mph
2,532 ft AEG   1 Hour   35 Mns Break
 
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I have been wanting to hike to Tortilla Mountain and the stars were aligned yesterday to do so!

My stock vehicle did not have enough clearance to make it past the trailhead on FR 213, so we walked the road instead. Once to Tortilla Well, we took the Peters Trail for about 1.3 miles to Indian Spring, where we went off-trail to Tortilla Mountain.

The road walk was pretty easy, although it was a bit rocky in places. On the way out, I lost Peters Trail while going through a wash and stayed in the wash longer than I would have liked. On the way back I managed to stay on Peters Trail the whole way, which worked out better. I thought that the tread on Peters Trail was good, and even though the trail was a tad overgrown in places I enjoyed hiking on it.

On the off-trail portion, we made our way to a drainage that first went west and then northwest toward Tortilla Mountain. I wound up getting out of the drainage and went southwest up toward a ridge, and then had to traverse to tne northwest to meet up to the drainage on the way to a saddle. Once out of the drainage the slopes were steep, brushy, and a bit loose; this made for some slow hiking.

Once up to the saddle above the drainage, the heavy lifting had been done -- it was relatively flat hiking over to the summit block. The south side of the summit block has some intimidating looking cliffs and I could tell that we still had some work to do. We made our to the northeast side of the summit block, where there was a nice break in the cliffs which made for a fairly easy class 2 scramble to the top. Views are great at the top and are some of the best in the Supes imho.

On the way back, I started going north down from the summit block, but didn't like the looks of it so I backtracked and went back down the same way that I came up.

Once back to the saddle, we made a very steep descent to the drainage, and followed the drainage back down. There were several dryfalls that required some short class 3 moves to navigate -- I made good use of the five point-of-contact technique a few times!

If I was to do the hike again, I would both ascend and descend through the drainage rather than doing what I did on the ascent.

In spite of the steep, brushy slopes I enjoyed the hike. I thought that the views were great at the summit and along the way -- the geology is nice in this area. Plus, it was a fun scramble up to the summit. On the way back, I was very happy to get back to the Peters Trail!
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I did not see the spring but there were some small pools of water that I probably would not filter.
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Tortilla Super LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking26.60 Miles 3,720 AEG
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3,720 ft AEG      31 Mns Break
 
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I didn’t have the rock crawling skills to drive to the Peters trail TH, so I parked and started from the Tortilla TH, which added another 7 miles round trip.

Peters Trail—Now I know where the term “peters out” comes from. 😄 This trail does so early and often. Nature is reclaiming this one, and in my view, having a gps track is essential. There were periodic cairns, but standing at the cairn, it was often difficult to figure out which direction to go from there. Most of this trail is pretty blah by Superstition standards, with the exception of the initial jaunt through a brief canyon, and then on the back end, as you descend to the Dutchman junction.

From there, I tacked on a quick side trip to Charlebois Spring, which was showing its fall colors and full of water, per usual. Met my first fellow traveler at the spring, a solo backpacker on his second night. We visited and he graciously guided me to the petroglyph panel. Cool to see.

From there, I headed down Dutchman and the first section of Red Tanks, both of which were smooth sailing. Enjoyed some fun fall colors at the springs.

Upper La Barge Box was a highlight. Overgrown in spots but not too bad as far as route finding goes.

Hung a left at the Hoolie Bacon junction and was concerned about a repeat of the Peters Trail route finding issues. But, while the trail is indistinct in many places and a bit brushy here and there, it is very well cairned and route finding was rarely an issue. Not particularly scenic though.

Finished the loop, and with the 3.5 mile road walk left, I knew I’d be fighting for daylight. Enjoyed a lovely sunset and threw on the headlamp for the last half mile.

Tons of solitude to be had on this loop. Long pants are a must, to keep the lacerations to a minimum. On that note, don’t wear clothes that you care about, as the desert pokies are unavoidable and will extract their cheese-grater dues.

A full day in the Supes!
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Nov 25 2023
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Squaw Canyon and Black Mtn (3707)Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking22.40 Miles 4,963 AEG
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Black Mountain 3707 summit lollipop with Shelly. The days are short so planned darkness to darkness and it was. I really enjoyed this 22+ mile trip, but clowned around too much to make decent time. Our route was to be counter clockwise Bluff Spring 235, Dutchman 104, Peters 105, Summit, Squaw Canyon, Cavalry 239, Terrapin 234, and Bluff Spring back.

The temps were forecasted in the 50s to 70s, which they were. From Peralta we began to a half full lot before dawn. There were nice clouds in the am that burned off by the pm. We were passing through Barks and sunrise and continued with a few side trips. My err in judgement was to take the sides forgetting we’d be pressed for time. I got lost in the moment and didn’t get my partner back on time.

There were still a few isolated pools from rain 2 weeks ago. There were four backpacking/camping groups in Bluff Spring area including a family of over a dozen. Side one was up to Bluff Spring. It was odd to me that some of the backpackers were unaware that there was even a spring there. Bluff is returning to nature, more overgrown than before but still trickles a quart a minute.

Side two La Barge is near fall colors with some change but about a month away from prime. The spring itself is vastly overgrown with rubus. Not sure which variety blackberry, raspberry, or? but no telling where it will stop. I remember standing on the box not that long ago, now completely buried. It is flowing strong at a gallon+ a minute. There were multiple campers there as well.

Side three to Charlebois. We saw the first hiker of the day on Peters 105 heading up to the summit. I scored a small personal victory by finding and removing I believe the last red spray painted cairn on the long trail. Up top the upper plateau is timeless and familiar. We crossed it and made way up to the Summit. Black Mountain 3707 register was still there in small jar but Shelly brought a nice glow in the dark waterproof box just in case. We had a snack and off before we knew it. We were behind schedule as we crossed for Squaw Canyon. I’ve never liked going up that canyon so chose the route down specifically. One more side trip and then the tortuous drop down to the Cavalry Trail. I’m not sure that I’ll ever take that route again. I’m fairly certain that fire, scree and rockfall have removed anything that would be considered a trail. The loose slope meant I spent more time falling on my backside than anything else I can remember. We connected to an old horse trail as we got lower in the canyon.

The trail route back was uneventful with several small stops to reenergize before reaching a dark Peralta. I love this time of year and any chance to hike the Superstition Mountains. It's so much prettier with water but we have not been blessed this season. My companion was a rock star. The shorter days make long day hikes like this problematic but worth it.
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Isolated pools from rain 2 weeks ago

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Overrun with rubus but spring was strong as always.

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Apr 02 2023
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Black Mountain via Peralta Trailhead, AZ 
Black Mountain via Peralta Trailhead, AZ
 
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John10sTriplogs 346
Hiking19.51 Miles 3,518 AEG
Hiking19.51 Miles   10 Hrs   13 Mns   2.14 mph
3,518 ft AEG   1 Hour   6 Mns Break
 
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I'd planned on hiking to Black Mountain via Tortilla Trailhead for a while, following @ScottHika's route from Dec. 2021 [ triplog ] . I ended up changing plans and started from Peralta TH after realizing that the distance to Black Mtn would come out about the same but would cut down the driving time, and I remembered dealing with quite a bit of catclaw along some sections of Peter's Trail closer to Tortilla TH when I was out that way last year.

We headed up Bluff Spring Trail, and there was a lot of great color from the start--the hillsides were covered in yellow, with a lot of other colorful flowers and cactus blooms mixed in. And there was a decent flow of water in most of the crossings today, which was also nice to see. We passed quite a few backpackers hiking out as we continued along Bluff Spring and then onto Dutchman, including one group that was having problems with their water filter and asked if we had one with us, which we didn't.

Seven miles in, we turned onto Peter's Trail to circle around to the east side of Black Mountain. This was my first time hiking that portion of #105, and I was expecting it to be steep and overgrown, but it wasn't bad in either aspect. A little over two miles from the summit, it looked like time was going to be tight to reach the peak before our turnaround time, so TboneKathy waited and I continued on to see if I could make it...I wasn't sure what to expect on the off-trail portion at the end.

Continuing on Peter's Trail, I started to see the red-painted cairns that were all too common farther east on the trail last year. Apparently the idiot with spray paint was thorough when he painted the cairns...I tossed a few of those off the trail on my way. I also passed a rock wall built across a drainage east of the trail that looked looked like a dam of some kind. Plenty of people have posted pictures of the wall in photosets, but I haven't seen any guesses about what it is [ photo ] .

Other than a few tangles with catclaw across the trail, it was smooth sailing, and I was happy to see that the final off-trail portion to the peak was about as easy as it gets--not much brush, not steep, and no major obstacles, and I reached the summit with plenty of time to enjoy a break at the top. The false summit just north of 3707 offered an even better perspective overlooking Squaw Canyon...I wasn't sure if Triangle Cave [ photo ] would be visible from the peak, but it was, and it was a cool vantagepoint looking down on it from above.

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I remembered seeing a summit register in ScottHika's photoset, so I didn't bring one with me. I spent a few minutes searching but didn't find the one he left there in 2021 [ photo ] . I guess it's well hidden...I must've been right next to it. But I ate a snack, enjoyed the views, then headed back down to rejoin TboneKathy for the hike out. Frogs (maybe bullfrogs or leopard frogs?) were calling in Lower Barks Canyon in the late afternoon, which was a nice bonus [ youtube video ] . It was a great day in the Superstitions...perfect temperatures from start to finish, and it's always fun visiting a new summit.
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