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Hoolie Bacon Trail #111Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking13.93 Miles 2,367 AEG
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I wanted to check out some areas yesterday and after twisting arms for a minute S, Wally, and Andy were game. The road down 213 is always an adventure as it continues to deteriorate every year. Parked at the upper TH and headed up the JF Trail. After a mile, we reached the Hoolie Bacon junction and started down into Tortilla Creek, making a quick stop in Cedar Basin before climbing up to Horse Ridge. We stopped for some pics of the great views on top of the ridge then continued down through Horse Camp Basin before reaching our first destination, Trap Canyon. There is no 'trail' in Trap Canyon, it is a boulder brushy maze trying to make your way through. The Supes encyclopedia showed us an area with a ton of bedrock mortars. From there came the 2 and 3-story house-size boulders. We navigated around the first few but came to a section where the only way past it was an 8-10-foot drop. After scoping it out and not confident we could get back up if we needed to we decided to backtrack to Hoolie Bacon and continued on. Made it to the Hoolie Bacon/Red Tanks junction, made a left then after about a half mile bushwhacked up a small creek while also getting shredded by catclaw to Brad's water and the remains of Brad's Cabin. Tons of water at Brads and I highly disappointed Andy when I forgot my speedo at home so I couldn't swim it. ](*,) Wally advised there are remains of the cabin at a site just north of that, which is now an outer rock wall with an inner rock wall and concrete foundation. There are a ton of old tools and a bed still at the site. From there we found a nice lunch spot in the shade and started the uneventful hike back to the truck, where once we got to the top of Horse Ridge, Wally put the afterburners on and waited for us at the JF/Hoolie Bacon junction. Was pretty chilly at the start of the hike but got hot on the hike out as Hoolie Bacon has no shade at all from the sun. Saw a couple of backpackers at the Red Tanks/Hoolie Bacon junction asking about water and that was it for the day and no wildlife besides a couple of rabbits. Hoolie Bacon has a good amount of catclaw, most of it just off-trail some hangers will get you from time to time. I will have to try Trap from the Red Tanks side in the fall as the canyon is beautiful. Thanks, Wally, Andy, and S for joining, it's always a good time!

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Swimming pool.

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Seeping down into the creek with a small pool.
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Hoolie Bacon Trail #111Phoenix, AZ
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A hike in the Supes with Larry(me), Curly, Moe & Shemp. Curly Miller drove the smooth road and we bounced down to the trailhead. We started early and the temps were nice. the Hoolie Bacon trail was easy to follow but got a little messy around Tortilla creek with the cattle trails. There are more ups and downs than we remembered but the climbs kept us honest. Shemp laughed at as when we missed a turn but we always found the trail again. Trap Canyon was cool and shaded but we stopped at the leap of faith. Curly was the voice of reason. Moe Dilling looked for a bypass but it led to another drop off off so we opted for Brad's Water & Brad's Cabin foundation as a plan B. There was plenty of catclaw in Brad's canyon but we endured the gauntlet. It started to warm up a bit in the sun, so we filtered water and took a break in the shade. The hike out was warm but the breeze on the saddles was nice. A good day in the Supes with a vow to return to Trap canyon from the other west end in the fall.
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Hoolie Bacon Trail #111Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking13.86 Miles 2,466 AEG
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Jason suggested a visit to Trap Canyon and Brad’s Water. I have hiked right past both of these cool places but have never visited.

Wally and Stephanie joined the trek as well. Jason drove his rig down the lovely FS213. It was in great shape, and it was a smooth ride down to the JF Trailhead from Tortilla TH. Except, of course, for the near impassable rocky crap that seems to get worse with each year. It might be time to hike the extra miles soon, unless Jason is still willing to beat the crap out of his Yoda.

The weather was very nice at the start, but we figured it would heat up a bit as the day went on. We hiked through the cow pasture area and then started up to the saddle (and false saddle too). Looking down from the saddle, Music Mountain and Herman’s Mountain came into view and a still snow covered Four Peaks in the other direction.

We made it to Trap Canyon and Wally showed us some really cool metate stones, many of them. It makes you wonder how life was in this place 500-700 years ago. We made our way to the namesake of the canyon – the trap. And, we decided to turn around at the first real challenging drop down. We didn’t get a unanimous vote to keep going. Such a beautiful area. Some of the largest boulders I’ve seen in any canyon in the Supes, for sure.

We hike back out and started down to the Red Tanks/Hoolie Bacon junction. The trail get’s a little sketchy in this area. We made the turn up to Brad’s Water and found some wonderful catclaw forest. So nice to hike through there. My white long-sleeved shirt magically got a bunch of red polka dots after pushing through the nastiness.

The well/spring was really interesting. Wally said it was mine, and they struck water! Not as full as it has been in the past, I was told, but a lot of water. The little drainage coming down was also running. It was the most water I’ve seen in the Supes in a while. Wally then said there was a cabin further up. I never knew that was there. Very interesting for sure. A concrete foundation and mortared rock walls. At some point, this cabin had been a sturdy structure.

After a quick visit, we made our way across the catclaw patch and had a little lunch at the only tree along the Red Tanks Trail (that wasn’t burnt up). Off we went back up the Hoolie-Bacon Trail. A bit of a trudge going up and down, but we made it up to the saddle and then started back down towards the trailhead.

A nice day in the Superstitions. It’s always a pleasure to hike with Wally and Jason and it was nice to meet you, Stephanie!
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Hoolie Bacon Trail #111Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking13.79 Miles 2,708 AEG
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I was enticed back to the JF/Tortilla THs with an offer I couldn't refuse...a ride. In a vehicle. Out and back on the notorious FS213. 🤣

The day started early, since we knew there was a potential for it to be fairly long, what with the planned exploration of Trap Canyon. We jostled down the road, with the conversation touching on other interesting explorations in the area - it was definitely much more enjoyable than the last time I was on the road (walking!) We arrived at the trailhead, scaring off several desert cottontails as we headed off down the trail.

After a short walk up the JF Trail, we hit the junction for Hoolie Bacon. The area around Tortilla creek was as I remembered it, though this time it had a decent amount of flowing water (with marinating cow pies). Climbing out of Tortilla Creek, looking back, there were nice views of the snow frosted Four Peaks, and as we hit the saddle, there were nice views of Music and Herman's Mountains.

On our descent towards Trap Canyon, I was glad to discover that I'm not the only experienced desert hiker who can walk right past the designated trail - I only cackled in delight a little bit 😆 and in fairness, the gents were talking amongst themselves and didn't make it far before figuring out they'd missed the curve in the trail.

Once we hit the mouth of Trap, Wally took the lead, blazing a path through the brush. The mouth of the canyon is plenty enticing, with neat geology to lure you in. Not too far down canyon, we were treated to a section riddled with metates/mortars - they were definitely more mortar shaped (circular openings, and some quite deep) than what I typically think of as metate shaped (oblong and shallow). Sadly, no sherds were found, but they could be buried under the copious amounts of sand that moves in with any large flow event.

After exploring the metate shelves, we made our way further down canyon until we hit a constriction between some house sized boulders and a pair of chockstones. The drop from the lower stone looked to be 8-10 feet and a challenge to upclimb (and the downclimb wouldn't have been particularly delightful either). We decided to turn around and return at a later date to see if we could explore Trap from the other side.

In lieu of exploring Trap, we decided to head towards Brad's Water to have a look at what remained in the area. The walk up Brad's Canyon towards Brad's Water is an exercise in finding the path of least resistance - sometimes finding a clear path on one of the benches, sometimes walking in the drainage itself, and sometimes picking your way through catclaw. Not far from Brad's Water are the remains of Brad's Cabin, which was really neat to see. The cabin remains include the concrete foundation and mortared walls along with an array of old tools including a pickaxe, some pliers, and an axe head, amongst other things.

After exploring the site, we headed back the way we came, stopping in a shady spot for lunch. The recent rains left the ground damp in places, and all that moisture certainly contributed to higher humidity levels. We were glad for the occasional breeze that kicked up as we made our way back to the trailhead (I swear there were more uphill sections that I recalled on the way in!).

It was a fantastic day to be out hiking with wonderful company - it was great to meet both Andy and Wally and get a chance to hear about their explorations in the area and elsewhere.
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a singular strawberry hedgehog was spotted in bloom.

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Whiskey West - Red Tanks LoopPhoenix, AZ
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First time doing this loop as a day hike! To add something new, we checked out the major springs along the way! 😁 My previous visit was full of water. This time everything was dry except for a few pot holes of water here and there due to the bit of rain we had a couple of days last week.

My favorite section of this loop is red tanks. The views are expansive. The red rock formations are majestic. The views on whiskey are also beautiful.

La Barge spring was a real treat. Completely surrounded by vines, the spring is hidden in its own secret lair! 🤣🤣 There is a trail carved through the vines to get there. The trail itself is a muddy slip N slide, as the spring box is overflowing and water is running down the trail like a small creek. It is quite magical!! 💧🩵💧🩵💧 The water rains down into the spring box from above. There were 2 backpackers camping at the campsite closest to the spring, and another two filled up water before heading down red tanks.

Next stop was bluff springs, which I have been by so many times and never stopped to see! 🤣🤣 From the main campsite just off the trail, follow the main trail back towards the canyon and into the trees. There are lots of game trails, but there is still one main large trail going back. Just before entering the trees, there is a large piece of sheet metal. The water is coming directly out of a pipe and splashes down onto a large rock. The flow was a consistent small stream, but you would need to catch it in something to filter.

After bluff spring, we were in the home stretch. We noted the exact location of the Ely Anderson trail for a future trip. The trail is noticeable and cairned. There was no water in bluff spring canyon. Just a few small puddles near the giant rock in the wash.

Jason pointed out the Peralta rock in Barks canyon. I don't think I have seen it before. It is hiding in plain sight! 🤣🤣

Before you know it, we were down cardiac hill and back at the car! Another beautiful winter day in the desert full of sunshine! 🙂🌵☀️ In addition to the 2 groups of backpackers we saw at La Barge, we saw another 2 groups of backpackers heading in on bluff springs. It is certainly a fine weekend for it! We saw 4 day hikers when we were starting out on Dutchman. Not too bad crowding wise. The parking lot was a zoo when we arrived at 840a. Of course, thankfully all those people confine themselves to Peralta, leaving the rest of the wilderness relatively unscathed! 🤣🤣 I normally like to get an earlier start, but had some commitments in the early morning. The drive in was also a bit of a zoo. And there were unsurprisingly 30 cars at the carney springs TH at least. Craziness!

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Few puddles of water only.

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Water coming out of the pipe onto a large rock

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Lots of water. Spring box full and overflowing creating a mini creek of the trail leading up to the spring box. Spring is surrounded by vines.


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Didn't see anything in this exact area. There were some potholes of water here and there. And there was one area with some actively running water into a tiny pool in the creek bed.
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Whiskey West - Red Tanks LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking15.19 Miles 2,293 AEG
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The last time I hiked a variant of this loop was well over 20 years ago. I remembered enough to know that I enjoyed the views along portions of the trail...so when trying to find someplace to hike this weekend, I slid the route on the table, hoping it would prove amenable to my hiking partners. After a little bit of dithering, they capitulated to my request - huzzah!

We had slightly later start than usual, following the slow caravan to Peralta Trail head, but lucked out and managed to snag one of the last spaces in the lot.

After signing in at the register at the behest of the volunteer ranger, we headed off and away from the hoards heading up Peralta. Not far into the hike, well before we started heading up towards Miners Needle, we passed less than a handful of other hikers headed back out (a pair and two singletons)....we'd have the trail to ourselves until La Barge Spring, where we encountered two pairs of backpackers. As we continued on our way out the Dutchman Trail on our homeward stretch, several additional groups of backpackers appeared....including one pair with an incredibly late late afternoon start.

We were able to maintain a surprisingly fast (for me) pace, given the slightly warmer weather today. We were aided by some apparent recent trail fairies who had clipped back the catclaw to allow for unhindered walking. The views were enjoyable, and it was nice to see the both Bluff and LaBarge Springs....though the brambly vines guarding LaBarge Spring demanded a blood sacrifice 🤣 (just a drop, and fear not, the spring remained uncontaminated).

There was a tiny bit of flow observed on some slickrock in the drainage possibly near Whiskey Spring, but I wasn't paying attention to the location, so I'm not lodging an official report. All drainages and washes were otherwise bone dry with maybe a pocket or two of water that will disappear in the next few days, I'm sure.

Only wildlife of note was perhaps the largest, plushiest velvet ant I've ever seen. It was terribly uncooperative for photographs though.

Possibly of interest to some, it seems I managed to take a photo from nearly the exact same spot about 25 years apart…it’s sad to see how fires have changed the landscape.

The hike didn't disappoint, and neither did the company 😊
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Spotted one optimistic ocotillo and then some purple nightshade at Bluff Spring.

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Steady flow observed from the pipe/tube.

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The box at the spring was full to overflowing....access is up a dirt slope and then by walking very carefully over the muddy bank amongst brambles. Be careful....the brambles proved to be more bloodthirsty than the catclaw!
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Reeds & Brads Water Out-n-Back via Whitlow, AZ 
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Hiking18.63 Miles 2,268 AEG
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The hike begins 10 miles off Highway 60, past the Queen Valley Golf Course, onto Elephant Butte Road, and then continues for the final 4 miles on North Elephant Butte Road. This last stretch requires a 4-wheel-drive vehicle with high clearance and good tires. It was the toughest test for my Subi to date! At one point on the way in, a tire was off the ground, and on the way out, another tire found itself suspended in a different spot.

The hike started with 27-degree temperatures and gentle breezes. It was a 2.6-mile trek to Reeds Well, where Joe measured the water depth at 4 feet.

Next, we followed the Coffee Flat Trail up Randolph Canyon (Sorry, Kelly—no coffee was found). This section featured picturesque views, interesting geology, and even a few cottonwoods still holding onto their fall leaves. There are some pools of water here, that the cows seem to enjoy. Be careful if you plan to filter.

At Fraser Canyon, we turned onto the Red Tanks Trail and made our way up Red Tanks Canyon. This was the longest climb of the day, gaining about 1,000 feet in elevation. We paused for lunch at the Red Tanks Divide, where we were unexpectedly passed by our 4th, 5th, and 6th backpackers of the day—quite a crowd for a Monday!

Our final two objectives were a 700-foot descent (and the return climb) and a 1.7-mile trek from the divide.

Brad’s Water was full, offering an opportunity for those inclined to wade in and splash around. This area is an old mine site that has since flooded. From there, we headed to Brad’s Cabin. All that remains is the perimeter rock wall, a substantial concrete foundation, and numerous tools and implements left behind. Thanks to the nearby water supply, the foundation and floor were poured entirely in concrete.

We retraced our steps as daylight dwindled, making our way back to the car for the drive out.

The temperatures throughout the day were perfect for hiking. Although we never felt the forcasted high winds on the trail, they made themselves known during the drive home.
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Enough water to swim in.


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Water is at least 4' deep, and is 4' below the surface. Bring the means to collect and filter from the well.
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Reeds & Brads Water Out-n-Back via Whitlow, AZ 
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Hiking18.63 Miles 2,268 AEG
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Had a 25ft nylon stringer in my pack to gauge Reeds and checkout Brads via the lasso loop from Peralta with an early start to get solid confirmation during the driest of times. SleepTillNoon chimed in so I revised to the closer Whitlow approach.

Based on helpful info shared by 00Dilling & ShatteredArm, it seemed like Bruce's Subaru could certainly make it to the large apron a mile before Whitlow. Scratch certainly and forget stock 2WD HC, I was impressed he didn't turn back in two spots that would have made the hike longer than Peralta.

It was an intriguing ride since I've never been on or up Elephant Butte Road. Moments felt like dialing back time and driving through the Superstitions.

The approach hike through Whitlow seemed longer and sandier in the morning. Returning seemed twice as quick late afternoon and less sandy.

Coffee Flat Trail #108
The term flat is broken.

Red Tanks Trail #107
Pretty area. Cumbersome constantly verifying each option heading up. Descending on the return seemed less of a hassle and quicker.

Synopsis
Good to get'er done and experience the Whitlow approach. Two more sources not tapping into the water table I might check out soon.
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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Bone dry, nearby prickly pear pads are paper thin.

The oasis nearby at Brad's Water is easy to access and plentiful.

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Easily accessible and dependable water source in the Superstitions.

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout At least 3.5 ft deep based on a 2x6 board I attached to a 25 ft line. Approximately 15* ft to the water.

*Bruce said 4, probably 10 ft closer...lol
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Charlie from Peralta best done clockwise, AZ 
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Holy Bacon Peter, AZ 
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Needed to get outside again. A warm Feb weekend, with temps in the mid 70s was softened by cloudiness both Sat and Sun.

Bland scenery on Hoolie with the fire scar taking its toll, though the views were distant. Red Tanks through upper La Barge is rough but a highlight of scenery on the loop. Dutchman is a highway in this stunning supes canyon.

FOTG had claimed the best campspot along the creek, so we settled for option 2 not wanting to encroach on a romantical weekend in the woods. ;)

We took an afternoon jaunt up Trap, which was a real treat, and one I'd like to explore the rest of the way. Unfortunately, sunset forced a turnaround and we headed back to camp for the night. A full moon lit up the sky and temps dropped to 41, about 10 lower that we had expected, but somehow we managed to survive the night.

FOTG stopped by for a few minutes in the ayem on his way out before we headed our own way down toward Charley and Peter. Climbing up to the mesa reintroduced fire damage and the mesa was a mess. The catclaw is prolific and the tread is tough to follow in some places. The five red-spray-painted rocks along the way were instrumentally important in finding the way. :-k :doh:

The last two miles along upper Tortilla is a treat with cool geology and plenty of water right now. On the drive out we passed a Jeep Liberty heading up the 213, and I'm pretty sure they were on an intentional one-way trip. Best wishes to those folks and whoever's car they stole. :sweat:
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No need for the spring, as the creek was flowing nicely. But there was nice flow from the pipe and a full springbox. It's an overgrown mess to get up to it though, and not easy to find if you don't know it's there.

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Didn't go up to the source, but there was a visible flow in the drainage at the trail crossing.

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Peters was flowing the entire length

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No sign of water at the well or trough. Plenty in the adjacent creek however.

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Didn't find the actual spring source ... plenty of flow in the canyon.

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Superstition jaunt, AZ 
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I haven't been able to really get in more than an overnight backpacking trip so far this season but finally had the chance last week, from Wednesday to Saturday. Since it was the first (and perhaps only) longer trip of the season, I figured I'd just do a nice little tour de western supes to enjoy all the running water, 3 nights/4 days. I started at Peralta and went clockwise, Dutchman -> Coffee Flat -> Side Trip down Randolph Canyon -> Red Tanks -> Dutchman -> Cavalry -> Boulder -> Terrapin -> Bluff, roughly 33 miles, with the plan to do 6 or 7 the first day and 12 or so on days 2 and 3 leaving a short hike out on day 4.

The road in was fine but I did notice way more campers/RVs/etc than previous years. Like, massive amounts more and there are a couple areas where forest service/county/someone has dropped some porta potties. I know there was a race this past weekend so maybe some of it was related to that but looks more like a lot of long termers. Was generally just surprised by the difference in numbers this year compared to previous.

As expected, all the creeks were running great, meaning I never carried more than my 700ml water bottle. I was able to rock hop and keep my feet dry at most crossings but this is basically impossible on some of the crossings of La Barge on the red tanks section and definitely impossible on the section of trail between reeds water and dripping spring but I had brought an extra pair of socks and sandals to wear at camp so no problem there. The days were in the high 60s/low 70s which was a bit warmer than I would've liked due to the lack of shade, but nothing bad. Nights were low/mid-30s which was fantastic.

Most of these trails are well used so the conditions are just fine and able to make great time on without any fuss. The only exception is the stretch of Red Tanks from the Randoph canyon junction to whiskey spring. There were several spots where I ended up off trail and had a very tough time filled with many bloody cuts finding it again. Also very overgrown in many places; in this section, I think I barely averaged 1 mph. I was on this trail 14-18 months ago and don't remember it being near this bad but now I need a new shirt and shorts.

The drive out was uneventful except for one lady on a bike raising her fists and screaming at me on Peralta. It seems obvious to me that if you're slowly riding a bike on the wrong side of a dirt road, a car will pass you at some point, so not entirely sure what she was angry about but that's people for ya.
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Jan 03 2024
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 Joined Mar 01 2018
 Chandler, AZ
Herman Mtn Summit and Hermans Cave, AZ 
Herman Mtn Summit and Hermans Cave, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jan 03 2024
John10sTriplogs 346
Hiking18.30 Miles 3,711 AEG
Hiking18.30 Miles   10 Hrs   34 Mns   1.96 mph
3,711 ft AEG   1 Hour   14 Mns Break
 
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A few weeks ago, I tried hiking up to the summit of Herman Mountain via the west side from Trap Canyon but ran out of time, and the plan today was to try it again with a more direct route going up the south side from Red Tanks Trail. There were 10 other vehicles at Peralta, and it was in the low 40s when we started ~7AM.

We hiked most of this same route last time, too, so there weren't many surprises, but we saw three deer along Dutchman Trail early on, and it was nice to see a little more water at some of the crossings after the rain in late December. Whiskey Spring Trail is still well-maintained, which is one of the reasons I wanted to come back and try this again relatively soon before the catclaw overtakes the trail again.

When we got into Upper La Barge, TboneKathy waited below Herman's Cave while I took off for the peak. I left Red Tanks ~ a quarter mile past the cave and started up a ravine. It wasn't too steep but was very brushy early on, and the first few tenths of a mile were slow as I pushed through branches and thorns and tried to position myself on the right side of a few drainages. I ended up veering farther east than the route I'd drawn up, but it worked well and shortened the distance a little. As I'd hoped, the brush let up once I gained some elevation.

The views opened up once I got up on the ridge, and last quarter mile to the peak was faster with more open, flatter terrain. It's a fairly plain-looking peak--flat and open with a lot of low desert brush, a lot like Music Mountain to the north...but the views of the Ridgeline, Weaver's Needle, Picacho Butte, etc. are very nice. I spent a few unsuccessful minutes looking for the summit register that @ScottHika placed in 2021 [ photo ] but didn't see a summit cairn or the register, so either I missed something obvious or someone has removed it, though pseaudalpine mentioned seeing it in November.

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I headed back down the same way and rejoined TBoneKathy, then made a quick trip up to Herman's Cave before we started back. I also detoured up to Miner's Summit before hiking down Dutchman and catching up with her again, and we only saw one other person all day after leaving the trailhead. The sky had clouded over in the afternoon and it turned into a dreary, overcast day, but during the last mile of the hike, the sun broke free and lit up Barkley Basin in beautiful gold just before sunset, and as we got back to Peralta in near-dark, we heard at least two great horned owls calling...it combined to make a great end to the day and a nice start to the new year of hiking.
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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Several large pools and a light but steady flow in a few places
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Dec 16 2023
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 Gilbert, AZ
Tortilla Super LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 16 2023
ddgrunningTriplogs 604
Hiking26.60 Miles 3,720 AEG
Hiking26.60 Miles   10 Hrs   12 Mns   2.75 mph
3,720 ft AEG      31 Mns Break
 
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I didn’t have the rock crawling skills to drive to the Peters trail TH, so I parked and started from the Tortilla TH, which added another 7 miles round trip.

Peters Trail—Now I know where the term “peters out” comes from. 😄 This trail does so early and often. Nature is reclaiming this one, and in my view, having a gps track is essential. There were periodic cairns, but standing at the cairn, it was often difficult to figure out which direction to go from there. Most of this trail is pretty blah by Superstition standards, with the exception of the initial jaunt through a brief canyon, and then on the back end, as you descend to the Dutchman junction.

From there, I tacked on a quick side trip to Charlebois Spring, which was showing its fall colors and full of water, per usual. Met my first fellow traveler at the spring, a solo backpacker on his second night. We visited and he graciously guided me to the petroglyph panel. Cool to see.

From there, I headed down Dutchman and the first section of Red Tanks, both of which were smooth sailing. Enjoyed some fun fall colors at the springs.

Upper La Barge Box was a highlight. Overgrown in spots but not too bad as far as route finding goes.

Hung a left at the Hoolie Bacon junction and was concerned about a repeat of the Peters Trail route finding issues. But, while the trail is indistinct in many places and a bit brushy here and there, it is very well cairned and route finding was rarely an issue. Not particularly scenic though.

Finished the loop, and with the 3.5 mile road walk left, I knew I’d be fighting for daylight. Enjoyed a lovely sunset and threw on the headlamp for the last half mile.

Tons of solitude to be had on this loop. Long pants are a must, to keep the lacerations to a minimum. On that note, don’t wear clothes that you care about, as the desert pokies are unavoidable and will extract their cheese-grater dues.

A full day in the Supes!
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Dec 09 2023
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 Joined Mar 01 2018
 Chandler, AZ
Trap Canyon - Herman Mountain Exploration, AZ 
Trap Canyon - Herman Mountain Exploration, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Dec 09 2023
John10sTriplogs 346
Hiking19.82 Miles 3,665 AEG
Hiking19.82 Miles   10 Hrs   24 Mns   2.07 mph
3,665 ft AEG      50 Mns Break
 
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My plan for today was to try out a ~20-mile route-trip route to the summit of Herman Mountain from Peralta, hiking up through the west side of Trap Canyon. There are shorter/more direct routes up Herman, but this one looked like one of the flatter approaches and had the added bonus of some hiking in Trap Canyon, which I always enjoy.

We headed out on Dutchman right around sunrise, and cars were pouring into the parking lot at Peralta as we got started. Within a few minutes, a Pinal County Sheriff helicopter passed overhead and flew up Peralta Canyon and back, then landed in the Lost Goldmine parking lot, where there were some flashing lights...not sure if that was training or an early morning rescue operation.

Not quite a mile in, we stepped off the trail to let a guy pass, and he started sharing his theories on the helicopter and then moved on to other stories from his recent Superstition hikes. I wouldn't have minded story time if he'd at least kept moving, but he just stood there talking as the minutes passed, and I eventually had to cut him off and tell him that we needed to keep moving...

We saw two more people on Dutchman, and Whiskey Spring and Red Tanks Trails were in about the best shape I've seen them--there was a little catclaw in some spots, but it looked like someone had done recent trail maintenance, so that saved us a lot of time and scratches. Not surprisingly, it was very dry out there--we didn't see any water at Bark at Dutchman or Whiskey Spring and only occasional, small puddles in the creek beds.

TBoneKathy waited near Trap Spring, and I hiked into Trap to try out the route. When I was there last February, Trap Canyon had water everywhere--deep pools and small waterfalls, and we had to take our boots off and wade through some spots and find creative ways around the deeper pools. Today was the opposite--other than a few small, shallow pools, everything was dry. Not as scenic, but it was great for moving quickly through the canyon, and it was nice not stepping in quicksand today. I passed a tent and some camping equipment near the arch, but the backpacker must've been out exploring.

Brush/catclaw are the big obstacles getting out of the creek bed, and I picked a rocky area to avoid that, but I ended up leaving the creek too early and wasted time dropping back down to a very brushy drainage and up the other side, cutting through catclaw along the way. I followed the drainage until it flattened out, and the terrain was easy up on top, but I'd lost a lot of time. On the way up, I saw a few very tall, deliberately-built cairns in random spots, which was odd.

I came within ~2/3 of a mile and ~500 feet of elevation from the peak and could see it ahead, but TBoneKathy had already been waiting an hour at that point. If I continued to the summit and spent a little time there before turning around, I figured she'd end up waiting ~ three hours total and didn't want to make her do that, so I made that my turnaround spot and started back. [ youtube video ]

I took a more efficient route down into the creek bed in Trap on the way back, but there's no way to avoid the catclaw. Following the creek bed toward the west entrance, I crossed paths with the backpacker and talked to him for a few minutes--he'd hiked to the traps but didn't go all the way through to Hoolie Bacon. I rejoined TBoneKathy for the hike out, and we saw three more people before taking a food break at the Whiskey Spring/Dutchman intersection. While she started down Dutchman, I made a quick detour up to Miner's Summit and signed the register. I'd never been up there and figured it could be the consolation peak today since I came up a little short on Herman :).

I caught up with her, and we finished off the last few miles with nice late afternoon shadows and were back at Peralta around 5:15PM. I'll probably come back and try Herman again soon while the trails are in good shape and Trap Canyon is dry, because conditions were perfect for moving quickly, and the route is straightforward and would've worked well if I'd just stayed in the creek bed a little longer on the way in.
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Dry creek bed heading into the west entrance of Trap

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Dec 06 2023
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Fraser - Randolph LoopGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 06 2023
pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking9.94 Miles 1,103 AEG
Hiking9.94 Miles   3 Hrs   36 Mns   2.88 mph
1,103 ft AEG      9 Mns Break
 
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Meh, an easy and mediocre loop considering the crappy approach drive with all the geriatric snowbird side by siders. Completed in reverse (CCW), descending the uninspiring Randolph Canyon first. Cow feces everywhere, loaded up with dry burdocks, mostly pre-burnt with overgrown, unnecessarily cairned side passages. Every hike can't be great, but I guess no trail should go unhiked. : wink : Dese was with me, so it was an appropriate pick for today, but both of us couldn't wait until this loop ended!
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Nov 29 2023
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Trap CanyonPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Canyoneering18.96 Miles 3,838 AEG
Canyoneering18.96 Miles   8 Hrs   23 Mns   2.46 mph
3,838 ft AEG      41 Mns Break
 
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Trap Canyon is definitely aptly named, especially considering the upper labyrinth of boulders, chutes, gaps, pockets, sand, shelves, turns and tunnels! It would likely be much tougher if it had flowing water, but to consider this a canyoneering route is somewhat silly. I'm delighted I did the complete canyon (unlike many of the other previous trips). : wink : I despise the uninspiring Hoolie Bacon Trail so much that I decided spur of the moment to instead hike over the top of Herman Mountain. It was a great decision that turned out better than expected. Not too shabby of a view in all directions. There were three parties vaguely signed in at the summit. The first was illegible (maybe Feb.'21?). The second was Jordyn & Lee and the third was your DPS DADDY! AKA Trail Ghost or just Greg. :-k Clear bottles as summit registers don't work well as the writing fades quickly. I also detoured to Herman's Cave for a quick lunch, which was very peaceful. The Whiskey Spring Trail isn't a favorite of mine, but it gets the job done. Also, some stupid jackholes have left a bunch of trash in the firepit near the spring Cottonwoods. Might have to haul that out next time I'm hiking through.
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Mar 11 2023
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Superstition Wilderness - GET #1Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 11 2023
pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking31.26 Miles 5,620 AEG
Hiking31.26 Miles   10 Hrs   37 Mns   3.09 mph
5,620 ft AEG      30 Mns Break
 
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RouteScout started acting stupid once I reached Charlebois, so I suspect the recorded AEG for this hike isn't correct. At one point, it announced I hiked a nine and then three minute mile. Whatever. Starting at First Water TH, I made it to Tortilla Pass in eight hours and Angel Basin in nine. The Hoolie Bacon and JF sections are uninspiring, burnt nothingness. The rugged, beautiful, enchanting highlights are definitely the La Barge Box and Rogers Canyon. Most dangerous part of this trip was the motorcycle ride home, but lane-splitting the Ren Fest traffic was a bonus.

Edit: Joe was kind enough to point out that this hike was about 6491' AEG total. Thanks for doing that, you won't get that type of service from AllFails or OnX. I'll keep it posted as 5620' AEG, so that Joe can catch up with his bum knee!?! : wink :
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Feb 26 2023
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 Phoenix, AZ
Dripping Springs Super LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Run/Jog avatar Feb 26 2023
ShatteredArmTriplogs 356
Run/Jog19.45 Miles 3,263 AEG
Run/Jog19.45 Miles   7 Hrs   22 Mns   2.83 mph
3,263 ft AEG      29 Mns Break
 
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Originally planned on doing this from Milk Ranch Creek to save a couple miles, but with the overnight rain, decided that road would be a little risky. So we headed out to Peralta for a 9:30am start, with the trailhead more vacant than I've seen it in about 10 years.

All the creeks were flowing across the flat part of Dutchman, and things got a little more exciting when sleet started falling, and there was 1-2 inches of snow at Miners Summit. Snow below 3k in the Superstitions is really a sight to behold...

First time on Whiskey Springs trail. catclaw wasn't as bad as I expected. La Barge was flowing nice and strong, and I enjoyed the Upper Box stretch. First time through there in nine years.

Red Tanks beyond the last crossing of La Barge was all new to me, and this offered the hardest route finding, the most catclaw, and the most snow. It was thoroughly enjoyable, and the view from Red Tanks Divide was unforgettable.

We took a long-ish break at Dripping Springs, and also poked around Reed's Water for a few minutes. The rest of the way back I was in "let's get this over with" mode. Chocolate covered coffee beans are money as it turns out.

Really fun day, I think that leaves about 15 miles of official trail within the Superstition Wilderness that I haven't seen yet.
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Peralta/Dutchman/Whiskey loop, AZ 
Peralta/Dutchman/Whiskey loop, AZ
 
Backpack avatar Feb 24 2023
xsproutxTriplogs 31
Backpack25.00 Miles
Backpack25.00 Miles
20 LBS Pack
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I went out for a casual 3 night backpack out in the Supes this past weekend hoping to see some snow, and boy did I. Started at Peralta late on Friday and headed to Whiskey Spring for the night. As expected, there was water flowing absolutely everywhere. What surprised me, though, is how much water was draining from up on Miner's needle. That's such a high point, without a recent rain I didn't expect it but I guess that's just how saturated everything is right now.
The next day, I headed north on Whiskey and over on Red Tank. I had read that there had been recent maintenance on these and I was hoping that wasn't a lie. Sure enough, I don't think I got a single scratch; both are in solid condition right now. There are a couple spots on Red Tank when you cross the drainage/creek (running the whole way and quite wide in some spots) where it can be tricky to find the other side, but nothing crazy. Very happy to see the trail in this condition, though, after the last couple years! I took a short jaunt up Trap canyon as I haven't been there before, before continuing on to my final destination on Cavalry. The weather there was bright and sunny at 72 degrees and I had a nice sandy beach to soak my feet in and enjoy the wide views.
The next morning around 4 or so, the rain started and the temperature had dropped down to 34 according to my thermodrop. As the sun came out, I could see ice forming on my tent walls and below the vestibules, some slight snow. Opening the tent door and I was greeted by snow on Malapais and and Black Mountains, along with Weavers. What a site! The rain mostly stopped around 10 or so but I goofed off in my tent a bit longer. I was going to meet up with a buddy doing a quick overnight at Pinon camp on Peralta which was only 6.5 miles or so away, so there was no rush. Once I left, I went back up to Dutchman to head over to Peralta. I've normally just thought this stretch was "okay" but man oh man, with all this water and snow run off (it melted pretty quick), it was amazing with waterfalls and, in one section, a bit of a water fountain almost where the water is forced through a small opening. Very nice. The climb up Peralta in the back side is nice and gentle and, again, streams every 10 feet. Often right on the trail but easy enough to keep your feet dry.
Buddy had brought out a couple adult beverages and brats, so that was quite the nice treat for the night by the campfire, which also helped with the cold as it was just above freezing when I called it a night (overnight got to 26 apparently). We packed up early the next morning for a quick exit. It was a little slower going as there was still Ice in some places, particularly on the backend where we were, but also on the South side in some areas as well, but was a pleasant descent nonetheless.

Great to get out to the Supes with this much water and camping in a couple of new places for me. The snow was just the icing on the cake.
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Feb 20 2023
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Coffee Flat Mountain 4621 Summit, AZ 
Coffee Flat Mountain 4621 Summit, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Feb 20 2023
ScottHikaTriplogs 50
Hiking20.00 Miles
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18 LBS Pack
 
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I’ve been eying Coffee Flat summit for a while. Cloudy skies and temps in the 50s and I was sold. Fiends cancelled so I went anyway solo. I’ve been up top Coffee Flat but never to the actual 4621 summit. I had an 18 pound pack with the usual supplies. I brought my water filter but decided to carry enough so as not to slow down. Could have left a few hours earlier but it was either dark in the am or dark in the pm so I chose the pm. The time zone was loose rocks and sharp plants so I set my clock forward.

Not many people were at Peralta at start so I beat the crowds mostly folks headed up to Fremont Saddle etc. On the day, I passed only two backpackers the entire trip. This is a great time of year perfect weather and the wildflowers are just emerging. There is water still running through the canyons and probably more soon with pending rain. My route was to be Dutchman’s 104 to Whiskey Springs 238 for a short while, then cut up to Circle and follow the ridge to the 4621 CF summit and proceed back the same way. I calculated the distance at 7-8 miles x 2 but decided to head back a different way. I prefer loops but I chose the longer possibly safer way around making the hike 20 miles. I saw lizards and birds and lots of bees working the spring flowers. I came across possible big cat prints and definitely old coyote crap but no mammals.

The terrain was manageable but slowed me down to a crawl in places, like dragging a dead body around. This was mainly due to the slope, hidden rollers, scrambling, scree and climbing (and coming from the Boomer Generation). Up top at the summit it was still and eerie quiet and I managed to get up there between storms so very cool. There was no apparent summit register so I did add a small glass bottle with a few cards inside. Hope some other HAZ members will drop by and make a note. This one was tough for me. At my age I probably won’t be back at least not via that route. I had lunch, and took in everything that is any reason for ever making such a trip. I was considering Picacho Butte being right there, but decided to pass regrettably as I was already behind schedule. There are a few places in Red Tanks I wanted to explore that will have to wait as well.

Admiring the view I contemplated my return options other than an out and back. Dropping down into La Barge was the quick way back but, I didn’t like the look of the steep slope. I also heard that the upper box is a catclaw nightmare right now. Being solo means being more responsible. I was also eying the somewhat steep hike down Coffee Flat Canyon in the direction of Buzzards Roost. I knew I’d hit Coffee Flat 108 somewhere near Reeds Water. That would be a really long bushwhack though. I decided to head towards Red Tanks divide and follow the somewhat familiar trail around Red Tanks and through Randolph Canyon, Coffee Flat and Dutchman. I once read that Tom Kollenborn found a horse route up and over Coffee Flat Mountain. The steep cliffs make it impractical but possible on horseback. As I was heading down, I kept thinking to myself, “What would a horse do here?” All the sudden I was finding cairns. Not modern cairns but old school cowboy cairns. I was picking up debris as well so somebody besides me was thinking it was a practical route. I hit the divide and with sigh of relief I switched to trail mode. All of the trails were really nice and if I got a scratch I didn’t notice it.

I really like wading through canyon water so Randolph was a super cool foot bath. Also Coffee Flat trail is always so very nice and sandy soft on my old feet. I got back in the dark and headed home apologizing to friends and family for being out of communication and exceeding my estimated return time. I took extra pics so hope you will take a look and enjoy.
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