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Cornucopia Trail #86 - 14 members in 66 triplogs have rated this an average 2.7 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Mar 25 2025
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Mazatzal Loop, AZ 
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I've wanted to do this hike for over a year now and when the temperatures spiked in late March I took the opportunity to make my first foray into the Mazatzals. I had briefly discussed the route last year with @JacobEmerick but conveniently forgot that he advised to avoid Willow Spring Trail. Before this trip I thought I was a fairly good backpacker - I am, quite literally, a professional - but the Mazzies turned my 6-day 60-mile plan into a 7-day 100-mile monstrosity that had me questioning much more than just my backpacking skills.

AZT
Starting from Mormon Grove Trailhead I'm going to skip over the Arizona Trail portions of the route until things get fun later on. Everyone knows what the AZT is about. ~40 miles from Mormon Grove TH to where the AZT splits off from Red Hills Trail.

Red Hills
Both maps I had (Nat Geo & USGS Quads) show the intersection where the AZT breaks off from Red Hills nearly a mile off of where it actually is. Red Hills was my favorite trail of the trip. A diverse hike that goes through a pine canyon before breaking out into open red rock hills. Simple enough to follow with obvious tread and big cairns. There are 2 horse camps along Red Hills and I was surprised at how built up they were (barbed wire corrals, wooden awning structures, tools stashed) considering the Wilderness designation.

Midnight
The brush began over the first half of Midnight but nothing bad. About halfway along Midnight around Wet Bottom Creek is another horse camp and after that it quickly gets much tougher. The trail fades out and rises steeply up the side of a brush-choked canyon. A good taste of what is to come. There was strong evidence someone had recently took stock up Midnight and down Willow Spring even along Midnight Mesa (or vice versa) which impressed me greatly.

Willow Spring
I spent 45+ minutes looking for the Midnight / Willow Spring intersection to no avail. Midnight peters out and Willow Spring doesn't peter in on a thick brushy ridge. That being said you will have to spend as much time as it takes to find Willow Spring coming around the side of Midnight Mesa because that 4-inch wide path is the only viable way to contour around the buttress. This part was the only area I could follow Willow Spring because a step in any other direction would be falling down the side of the Mesa.

Willow Spring then goes along a knife-edge ridge that afforded the best views of the entire trip. Really stunning terrain way back deep in the Mazatzals. I lost the trail quite a bit on the way down to the Deadman/Willow Spring/Dutchman Grave intersection - there are big cairns but they're so enveloped by shrubs that you can't see them until right on top negating the usefulness.

Deadman / Willow Spring
I had hoped to find water and camp in this area around the intersection and Mountain Spring but was mostly disappointed in both. I spent at least 30 minutes in the creek bed area that Mountain Spring showed to be in on my maps with nary a trickle or hint of water. There were water pools farther down the creek bed that saved me and since I was cowboy camping I just laid down underneath a tree but didn't see much in the way of tent camping options in the vicinity.

In addition to the 30 minutes I spent poking around Mountain Spring I spent another 45 or so looking for the beginning of the Deadman Trail. There is an obvious track from the newly-signed intersection leading down to those aforementioned pools but then nothing at all up or down or across. That scared me off Deadman potentially being a touch bushwhack the entire route and I decided to change plans and not pursue Deadman. Instead I would go back up Willow Spring, take another shot at finding that Willow Spring/Midnight intersection and then follow Willow Spring across to the AZT so I could still get back to Mormon Grove TH. The devil I knew over the devil I didn't - or so I thought.

Willow Spring / Off-trail to Midnight & back
The Willow Spring devil got a lot worse. There isn't even a hint of trail east of the non-existent intersection. It is thick, thick bushwhacking up and down ridges. I was able to go maybe a half mile an hour and was quickly exhausting my water due to the very physically demanding terrain and brush.

I stood on top of a mountain along the Willow Spring "trail" - physically and mentally broken after almost 2 days now of gnarly bushwhacking - and saw some water in the creek bed far below. Looking at the map I figured I had about 4 more miles of Willow Spring before reaching the AZT. Based on the conditions and my pace so far I estimated that would take 6 hours if I had good luck, 8 hours with mild luck. I didn't want to consider no luck or bad luck scenarios besides briefly contemplating how difficult it would be for SAR to get me out of there if injured.

If I could make it down the mountain to the creek below it looked like I could follow it off-trail to reconnect with Midnight around where the trail crosses Wet Bottom Creek. So I did just that, bailing, knowing I would have nearly 50 miles of hiking to get back to my truck and only 1.25 planned days left to do it in. For once the thick brush and steep terrain worked in my favor getting several hundred vertical feet down the mountain to the creek because I could slowly fall into each tight layer of Manzanita then pull myself through the woody branches before slowly falling into the next layer and repeating all the way down.

That off-trail creek, which was unnamed on both my maps and which I named Fortune Creek, ended up being my favorite part of the trip. It had water, it didn't have brush, it was beautiful hiking down a canyon that turned a little slotty once or twice and it represented a change in my fortune which had been very poor for quite some time. I was able to easily follow Fortune Creek down to its confluence with Wet Bottom Creek and subsequently with the Midnight Trail. I actually had a tougher time following the "better" half of Midnight on the way out than I did on the way in but was eventually back to Red Hills then the AZT. I had to extend my trip an extra day to get out the way I came but met a nice thru-hiker who let me text my mom and gave me some water tabs to tide me over.

All in all it was a really humbling experience to hike deep into the Mazzies. Due to the off-trail brushy conditions, challenging terrain & high miles I've never left a trip more physically beat up than this one. But definitely worth it to explore a lesser-seen side of this rugged & scenic Wilderness.
 
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Joined 9L for this loop hike in the Mazzies. Parked at the FS25A road junction and then climbed 1300 feet or so to the Mormon Grove Trailhead. Then jumped onto Saddle Mountain AZT #22 and it's about 5 miles on the AZT to McFarland Spring where we took a nice break. Great stand of ponderosa at McFarland where we had our lunch break and just enjoyed a cool breeze whistling through the pines :)

There was not any water right at McFarland but there is pretty reliable water about 500 feet down canyon from McFarland along the AZT. Actually had some really good sized pools for about 1/4 mile downstream of McFarland.

Eventually the AZT leaves McFarland Canyon and crests a saddle before dropping into the Cornucopia side. Then we looped back around to the FS25A and back to the junction and the vehicle. Pleasant temps for this loop and McFarland was great as always!!
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Cornucopia West Fork Thicket Spring, AZ 
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With temps warming up yet not wishing for a long drive to cooler climes, we fell back on a favorite of Tracey 's which would be our second time this year.

The first, in March, was to be a quick out-and-back to the "blue van" along FR 25A as a birthday hike for Tracey's daughter, so technically we never reached Cornucopia Trail #86. Due to the large amount of water flow in the West Fork of Sycamore Creek at the time, it was not a 'quick' hike by any means, with each and every water crossing presenting a challenge. Only near the end did we dispense with attempting to stay dry and simply walking through the creek.

This trip, as usual we started the hike from a small pullout on FR 25A about a half-mile North of the FR 25/25A intersection. While it was a breeze with the Cherokee, with the previous and the current 4Runner it's a reasonable challenge to get that short distance without any damage due mostly to a deep, yet VERY narrow drainage crossing. It is a given that at least one part of the vehicle WILL scrape, so damage limitation relies on the correct approach. On this trip, the receiver hitch scraped going out, the chrome exhaust tip barely scratched on the return.
(I keep thinking some day I'll bring my pick-axe to chop out the 2' drop of the approach and be done with it.)

One might ask why we don't just hike the extra .5 mile each way and my response is always hits on these points... even on foot it's a rough and rocky up-hill half-mile, so not only do we begin on a smooth downhill part of FR 25A, but we use that extra mile to extend hike on the other end.

Enough about our chosen trailhead, let's get started!
Thankfully the water flow was much lower so we had no trouble making better time without the wet-shoe trade-off. It wasn't long before we reached what's left of the blue van and the South end of Cornucopia Trail #86.

Even though I had driven on many pretty rugged so-called roads with the Cherokee, it still amazes me how vehicles get around/over the large boulders along FR 25A (concurrent with the West Fork of Sycamore Creek) and continue on up FR 3721 and over to FR 201/201A. Sure it can be done, but at a high wear-and-tear cost... exactly why I sold the Cherokee.

Finally, we're on Cornucopia Trail #86 and it's obvious we will be dealing with overgrowth along the way. While it wasn't bad on Cornucopia, once on West Fork Trail #260 the vegetation has fully enclosed the trail. Not wishing to constantly push brush out of the way, Tracey asked for my brush trimmers. Sorry, I didn't expect to be doing trail maintenance today, so I only had my usual hand clippers. With two trekking poles I continued by using them to keep the brush off my face, while she began trimming the worst offenders it wasn't long before she gave up. But it was soon moot as the trail opened up as we climbed.

At the Thicket Spring Trail #95 junction we had a decision to make, head North or South? Just over a year ago we did the Cornucopia/Thicket Spring loop so that direction has been covered. So, not having been on Thicket Spring Trail as far South as Sheep Creek Trail in a full dozen years, it became the default choice.

While it followed the bottom of the drainage the trail was easy-going but once it rose up to follow the contour it wasn't long before I knew reaching Sheep Creek Trail was not going to happen today. With the constant angle of the tread (higher on the right than left) my right hip was soon protesting loudly. I've been able to tough it out with the burning from the right hip in the past (Reynolds 10 days ago) but when the electric-shock nerve pain joined in and I realized I was losing focus on the trail it was time to head back.

With the tread angle in the other direction the nerve pain was soon gone and while the hip protest had eased, it would hang around in the background until our lunch break.

The return trip along Thicket Spring, West Fork and Cornucopia trails went by so quickly we were almost back to the intersection of FR 25A/FR 3722 before realizing it was time to look for a spot to stop for lunch. There it is... a rock for each of us to sit on, adjacent to a babbling brook, in the shade with a light breeze, limiting the annoying insects.

During our 20 minute break, I couldn't help but look up across the creek to the vicinity of the Cornucopia Mine. Of all the trips out here over a dozen years, being up above the creek I had never actually attempted to visit the mine itself, so will this be the day? Now refreshed and energized I'm feeling like checking it out. Tracey seemed in agreement when I voiced the idea, so let's do it!

It was easy enough to climb 20' through light brush to reach the old track to the mine, which we followed through thicker brush until dead-ending at a narrow box-canyon. Was this the mine? We were within a few hundred feet of the adit marked on the map, so I was sure it was part of the Cornucopia complex. Heading back toward the creek, I couldn't help but think of attempting to reach the actual marked adit to put this idea to bed once-and-for-all.

The only problem was instead of back-tracking to the more level part of the old mine track, I went for the straight line. Big mistake? ALMOST! It felt like I wasted 10 minutes to climb barely 25' up to the track, with an avalanche of dirt bringing me back down at every step. It was too steep for my trekking poles to do any good so it was down to grabbing onto whatever was close at hand...
A rock? Nope, it just pulled out of the ground while I slid back down 5 feet.
A small bush? Nope, it's cat's-claw.
Around a tree? I wanted to but could not wrap an arm far enough around to get a grip.
Back to the cat's-claw it is, and by CAREFULLY grabbing it at the base I was able to pull myself up.
)I wouldn't realize it until hours later but I chewed up my right shin enough that I was surprised I hadn't torn through my pant leg.)
Ok, i'm finally back up to the old track, now what? I pushed through plenty of thorny brush in the direction of the adit until another dead end. Nothing much to see... is that all there is? Whatever, I've burned every bit of energy I gained from my lunch so I'm done here. Instead of dropping down the loose slope I had crawled up, I went back to the box canyon before taking the easy (less hard) way back down.

While I was making the rough climb, Tracey was waiting patiently for me to fall, simply give up or encounter something worthy of the effort. It wasn't the first or last so I guess I just gave up.
Once back home, after taking a closer look at various maps it appears I was still 100' feet away from the marked adit. Comparing the map topo lines with the terrain at the spot I reached, as well as taking a look on Satellite view I'm not so sure if I reached to end of the complex or not.
So... was I CLOSE, but no cigar? Or is that all there is?
Either way, will I attempt to reach the 'exact marked spot' wherever it is? Or just let-it-go?
I guess we'll just have to see if/when I'm back out here again.

After my find the mine fiasco the hike back along the creek/FR 25A was a breeze.

While I felt fine while biking yesterday, now feeling the results of my flailing a few days later I'm taking this as a recovery day. But no worries, the abrasions and aching joints were worth the effort, a failure as it may have been. As they say, but did you die? Nope, so it's all good.
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Had the opportunity to knock off another passage on the AZT, which means I'm officially halfway done... Was worried about heat with a 10:30am start, but there was a breeze in the open areas, and occasional cloud cover, so it turned out not to be too bad (and at times, borderline chilly). The first 4-5 miles were kinda meh; everything between Lone Pine Saddle and Cross F is probably one-and-done for me. After Cross F, the climb up the canyon (can't find a name for this creek on the maps) was nice, and there was intermittent water, which I used to douse myself a couple of times. In the upper part of the canyon, I had to squeeze by a couple of horses; apparently one of them had fallen off the trail and slid a ways, but was unharmed. I told owners of said horse that I hoped the rest of their day goes much better.

Once up to the Mormon Grove turn, it was back to familiar territory. I love the views up there. Took a 15 minute or so break at McFarland, where the water was clear, cool, and tasty. One of my favorite spots in the Mazatzals.

The last couple of climbs got a little old. It's obvious motorcyclists have been using the trail between Cornucopia and Peeley, and they've even been kind enough to start cutting a switchback or two. Hopefully the FS is on it, but I doubt it.

Almost a mile from Peeley TH, I ran into my friends, who had a beverage for me. That was a nice surprise. Hung out at the TH for an hour or so, where the gnats were insane and it actually started getting nice and cool.
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I've done some hikes in the Mazatzals, well before Hike Az existed, but this was our first two official peaks in the range (besides Boulder Mountain and Four Peaks, which technically are part of the Mazatzal range). Good route, as expected, since it's associated with the Arizona Trail. I especially enjoyed the thick Ponderosa groves here and there that haven't been burnt (yet). The area reminds me of the Huachucas, but bigger. The most entertaining thing about today's hike was that some genius left a pencil with an eraser in the summit jar. Someone has turned nutrition waist channels up to eleven because they couldn't just remove the register, but they took the time to erase all of the entries. An eraser is almost as batty as when geniuses bolt and chain an ammo box to the summit (like Humphreys Peak), not realizing that nutrition waist channels can just easily remove the notebook from within and carry it out or throw it over the edge of a cliff. Most summit registers are silly anyway with cool stories bros! After descending from the first summit and merging onto the trail, we had a startling encounter with an agitated Arizona black. It took some stick and rock tossing to get that wittle phatty to relinquish the trail. Don't worry, no canines, humans or vipers were injured in the process. Shortly after this delay, we passed a backpacker traveling north who said he had started from the Roosevelt Lake Marina and was trekking to Flagstaff. We chatted briefly, he saying it was nice to finally see a human and then I wished him luck with his trip and we continued on to Mount Peeley. Our second summit was completely ruined by the horrible gnat swarms that wouldn't relent at dive bombing our eyes, noses and mouths. The slight breeze today wasn't enough, and it was literally a touch and go. Regardless, an easy summit by any reasonable standard. Maybe we'll spend more time up there on another trip, but I seriously doubt this second peak is getting repeated.
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Mazatzal 7500 Peak Trifecta, AZ 
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With warmer temperatures starting, I was looking for something higher elevation but not too far away, and the Mazatzals came to mind. After hiking to Mt. Catherine last spring, I wanted to check out the three unnamed peaks northeast of there (7532, 7549, and 7579). There were no other vehicles in the Peeley parking lot when we started ~7:30AM, and it was a comfortable morning in the upper 50s as we set out.

Mazatzal Divide is in great shape and is well-maintained, so the miles passed quickly on the trail. We saw a few patches of snow still hanging onto the north sides of some slopes, but they were just about all gone later in the day. I hadn't hiked beyond the north side of Mt. Catherine, so we got into new territory ~ six miles in and finally saw another hiker on the trail ~ eight miles in.

I stayed on Mazatzal Divide until the intersection with Fisher Trail and the turnoff to Bear Spring, then left the trail and started the climb toward the middle peak, 7549. I wasn't sure what to expect from the off-trail terrain, but the brush wasn't nearly as bad as I expected. It was steep (~1,000' of elevation gain in two-thirds of a mile), but there weren't any major obstacles, and the footing was good most of the way.

I didn't see any register on the first peak and wasn't sure if I'd have time to reach both of the other two before I needed to start back [ youtube video ] . The northern peak (7579) looked like the more interesting of the two, so I headed over there next. There was a lot of thick manzanita in the saddle between the two peaks that slowed things down, and hiking between peaks along the ridge was reminiscent of the route between Peeley and Sheep Mountain. The views from 7579 were great, with a clear view of Mazatzal Peak, and I could see a lot of smoke to the northeast from controlled burns.

[ youtube video ]

There was a small register jar at the summit, but it was full of water and algae, and water had gotten into the Ziploc bag inside...it was too wet to even bother trying to open it up and unfold the paper. I had a register jar and some paper with me, so I placed a new one at the peak, then headed south past 7549 to 7532.

The southern peak was the least brushy of the three and offered great views of all the peaks to the south and west...Catherine, Sheep Mountain, 6910, Saddle Mountain, Peeley, and the trailhead parking lot down below: [ youtube video ] . I eventually hiked back toward the middle peak and started down, completing the T-shaped route on the ridge...not very efficient with the backtracking and not how I'd do it if went there again, but it got the job done.

Back on the trail, the hike out was pleasant and uneventful...comfortable weather, though we did see a lot more people than on the way back, probably close to 10 total, many of them backpacking. Someone had also cached water near the Cornucopia/Mazatzal Divide intersection during the day, with four jugs just off the trail. Back at the trailhead, there were two other vehicles in the parking lot and some people in a tent camped there. It was nice to be back in this part of the Mazatzals after almost a year, and great that the off-trail was very manageable and the timing worked out to reach all three peaks today as planned.
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Day hike loop on the AZT and Mazatzal Wilderness. John came up with this lop that involved some road walking but mostly on trail. We started down the hill from the Mormon Grove Trailhead about 2.5 miles before getting to the single track. Then on to the AZT and Saddle Mountain trail over to McFarland Spring area. We took a break at McFarland before continuing on AZT to the junction where the old and new AZT alignment separates.

Instead of taking the new AZT we followed the old alignment which is Thicket Spring Trail. The first mile was a bit overgrown as expected since it's no longer AZT, however, once we dropped down over the highpoint the trail was a supper highway and had been recently cleared. Continuing we eventually reached the new AZT alignment and hiked southbound from there.

About a mile down the AZT we ran into the trail steward for the section doing some work. From talking to him he mentioned that the trail maintenance we saw on the old AZT they had cleared recently. They definitely did a great job clearing a nice wide path!

After that we hit the junction and left the AZT onto an old jeep trail. We followed that back out to where the truck was parked to finish the loop.
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Cornucopia Trail #86Payson, AZ
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I did NOT hike the full Trail. I hiked from the Mt. Peeley TH to Thicket Springs and back. (Am not sure how best to title this using the triplog.)

Quick points:

1) FR 201 is drive-able, but I think it needs 4x4 in places.

2) Trail is well marked and well maintained.

3) I didn't see any bears. But I saw lots of bear scat. Some HUGE.

4) I didn't see any rattlesnakes. But I might have heard one at night.

5) There is clear water at Thicket Spring. (And bones.)

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I drove to the Mt. Peeley trailhead Saturday to view the Perseid Meteor shower.

FR 201 is fairly drive-able but in some parts it's very rough, very crumbly, and very steep. I was glad for 4x4.

Even tho it's reported to be a 9 mile drive and even tho I was seeing 10 to 15 mph on my speedometer most times, it took me an hour both ways. (I should have checked my odometer.)

A fair amount of traffic on Saturday.

Once at the well marked TH, it's a half mile to the Trail proper.

Once at the Trail proper, also well marked signs.

An easy 1.5 mile hike to Thicket Spring, mostly down hill.

Lots of bear scat on the way. Some of it was HUGE.

The breakout to the Spring is well marked. But when I arrived at the Spring area I almost missed it.

I saw a small seep to the south of the trail, which was hard to get to. Then I looked around. There is a HUGE cairn to the north, where the Spring proper is.

The water was very clear but I didn't gather any. There were bones there. And I heard something rustling in the brush. (The last time I heard something rustling in the brush, it was a bear.) So I didn't stay.

Continuing up the trail to the Spring - which I think is part of a Loop trail - is a campsite.

But no trees for shade. Or to hang your stuff. And there was bear scat at the campsite. And the Spring being the only water nearby, I figured that there would be lots of animals at night. So I opted to not camp there.

I returned to the start of the trail. There is a campsite just south of the AZ Trail sign. I made a fort of sorts and camped there.

Later that night, I walked down the trail to pee. As I approached a large bush, I heard a large cricket start to "chirp." But it was odd in that it was a 50% duty cycle chirp. Like, "chirp" for a few seconds, stop for few seconds, "chirp" for a few seconds.

It occurred to me that I might be hearing a rattle.

So I backed off and the "chirping" stopped.

Yikes.

I saw one good meteor. Bright, slow, low and left a smoke trail.

Then the clouds moved in at 1 am.
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I saw a triplog from @CannondaleKid the other day from his hike to the Mazzie Swingset, and it had been over 2 1/2 years since I had been to the swingset, so I decided to go back out there. I didn't want to drive all the way out there just to hike to the swingset, so I also drove to the end of FR 201 and hiked up to Mount Peeley.

Mount Peeley
This is the 3rd time that I have been up to Mount Peeley, and it is always an enjoyable hike. I did Mount Peeley first, and FR 201 was in good shape all the way to the end. It is narrow in lots of places, and I was glad that I did not meet any oncoming traffic on the drive.

The Mazatzal Divide Trail was a bit overgrown -- it wasn't bad, but it could stand to be trimmed. It was a bit breezy at the summit, which made it feel a bit cold; we managed, to find some rocks to sit behind and get out of most of the wind. Views are great up there, so it is an enjoyable summit.

Mazzie Swingset
After hiking Mount Peeley, we drove back on FR 201 to FR 191 and parked. We hiked along FR 191 and made our way to the swingset. As @CannondaleKid mentioned, there were some new seats on the swingset. I am not sure about the history of the swingset, but it is not something that you expect to see in a wilderness.

Synopsis
These 2 hikes were very enjoyable on a nice fall day!

Distance and elevation gain for the 2 hikes are below. Stats above are the sum of the two.
Mount Peeley: 5.28 miles with 1,501 feet of AEG
Mazzie Swingset: 4.31 miles with 783 feet of AEG
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Nov 12 2021
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 Phoenix, AZ
Peeley to Sheep Creek, AZ 
Peeley to Sheep Creek, AZ
 
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ShatteredArmTriplogs 356
Backpack20.41 Miles 4,675 AEG
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Had some vacation time to use up before the end of the year, so I decided to try and tackle one of the loops in the Mazatzals. Decided on Sheep Creek / Davenport / Divide (should be 35-40 miles), figured that was pretty doable in two nights. Started off from Peeley TH in the clockwise direction, since I wanted to get the relative unknown stuff out of the way first.

The AZT portion was pretty uneventful, the last mile was new to me, didn't know about that excellent camping area at the Sheep Creek junction. All of the drainages had flowing water somewhere. The trail started getting a little bit more difficult to follow in the upper part of McFarland canyon, particularly through the burn scar. After the (currently unsigned) junction with Copper Camp trail, it starts to clear up, and is easy to follow all the way down to the bed of the Sheep Creek drainage. I really liked the big cypress stand along the divide.

The next couple miles was slow and painful. Trail was hard to find, and for some stretches I was just walking in the creek bed. After a half mile or so there was occasional flow. Lots of sycamore and pinyon in the upper part, and it gradually opens up into more desert and more catclaw as you go. It got pretty miserable there for awhile, and the trail is hard to spot through nearly waist-deep grass. Eventually I got to the Round Spring area, and found some sycamores and flowing water. It was getting to be 3:30pm at this point, so I decided this would be a good area to camp. Wandered about 5 minutes downstream from the trail, below where the two major forks converge, and there was pretty good flow down there, but no good campsites to be seen. Found a little clearing under a couple of sycamores (maybe a hardened campsite in ages past) and went with that.

Day 2:
I was looking at the map as I went to bed, and it looked like still ~10 miles to go till Chilson Camp, and then a 16+ mile hike out from there. I was kinda dreading doing a tough 10 mile day that was sure to offer more scrapes and cuts, just to follow it up with a long hike on the AZT, so I decided to pull the plug and just go back the way I came.

So, ate breakfast, packed up, and started back up Sheep Creek trail before 9am. The trail was actually easier to follow in the uphill direction; I think I managed to follow the tread almost the whole way. The only tricky part was finding where the trail leaves the drainage, which would be difficult without GPS. The climb up is steep, but clear of catclaw, so I don't know that I've ever been happier to lug a backpack up a steep grind.

The AZT section on the way back was actually quite warm, so I'm sure Davenport trail would've been even worse.

If I had a do-over, I'd definitely do this in the other direction, and knock out the Mazatzal Divide portion first. Oh well, still an enjoyable weekend, and water was not hard to come by, so really not a bad time to be out exploring that area.

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Good flow for at least 100 yards.

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Mostly dry, but there are a handful of short stretches with light flow.

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dry Squaw Flat Spring Dry Dry
Couldn't find any flow in the vicinity of the spring, but the box is about a quarter full. Better spots to filter in McFarland Canyon both up and downstream from the spring.

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Trickle in the creek, with a good pool to filter from.
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Nov 01 2021
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 Phoenix, AZ
Saddle Mountain Loop, AZ 
Saddle Mountain Loop, AZ
 
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LJWTriplogs 266
Hiking15.79 Miles 4,251 AEG
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Had a go at Saddle Mountain from the Cross F Trailhead earlier in the year and returned for a shorter version of the loop starting at Peeley TH. Sort of a Cornucopia - Thicket Spring and Saddle Mountain Mine Tour Loops combo. Rested my hopes on the sycamores along 25A, and they ended up in the neighborhood of prime. Overall there was more fall color than expected. Got going not long after sunrise and went counterclockwise.

Cornucopia through Thicket Spring not too much fall color. Most of the oaks had dropped their leaves, but in McFarland Canyon near the Sheep Creek jct there was some yellow below the pines. Ascended Sheep Creek to Saddle Mountain Trail, which is my favorite of the bunch. It provides some of the best views of Pine Butte and the Peeley - Sheep ridgeline, and this time around I was surprised by the couple pockets of maples shining bright red.

Left the trail when it seemed the route up the ridge was clear enough. There are just about no good lines through the brush up Saddle Mountain for any sustained lengths. It's one of the rougher bushwhacks, or the roughest, compared to the other summits in that part of the Mazzies, but it is a short one. I think it's overall easier than North Peak, for instance, even if the going is slower. Great views all around but the pano is probably better from the tougher, shorter, southern summit.

Breaked in Potato Patch before setting off again down 91. Saw the only person of the day before heading down to the Sunflower Mine area, a lone backpacker who I thought might be hiking the AZT until I saw him when I was driving out around the 87/Ord turn off. The Mining road that connects 91 to 25A was maintained some this winter but is already in need of some more clearing. It is easy to follow, however.

Along the 25A to Cornucopia under the yellow sycamores. Water flowing down the whole way. No idea how or why anyone drives to the end. Up Cornucopia the leaves dulled as I climbed. Made it back to the TH and it was still empty.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Moderate
Peeley Road at peak, Thicket Spring leaves are gone, Saddle Mountain/Sheep Creek prime, 25a and Cornucopia few days past peak
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Oct 23 2021
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 Joined Jan 21 2013
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Cornucopia Trail #86Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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FOTGTriplogs 1,052
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I met up with Kyle and John for a nice little fall stroll through the Mazzies. We thought about the Thicket Spring Loop, but opted for the longer out and back option, as I had remembered the trail being pretty overgrown the last time I hiked it, although in hindsight it appears to have been reported clear summer of 2020.

We did not see anyone on the trail all day, but there was a hunter's camp in McFarland Canyon where we turned around. We basically out and backed the bottom leg of the Thicket Spring Loop, with a trip into McFarland to the nice camping spot. The fall colors were nice enough to get your attention, but I am sure they could get a little better. There was water and even lightly flowing water in nearly every drainage we hiked along. All of the trails we hiked were in great shape with minimal overgrowth from the summer rains in spots and only a few downed trees across the trail. The conditions and temps were nearly perfect.
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Apr 17 2021
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Saddle Mountain - AZT #22Phoenix, AZ
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johnlpTriplogs 5,208
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Kelly and I have been talking about doing the Saddle Mountain AZT #22 hike since last fall. This AZT segment has pretty easy access close to the beeline hwy. Got started Saturday morning just after sunrise.
Initially hiked through rolling hills on our way north to higher elevations. Went through a nice riparian area with cottonwoods, sycamores, flowers, with a very light flow of water in a creek. Pushed on to McFarland Canyon where we set up camp in the pines then set off for the climb to the end of the segment near Mount Peeley.
The return to camp was cooled by a nice breeze and clouds. We even got a little rain. Spooked a large white tail buck. Watched him bound up a steep hillside.
Got back to camp before 5 PM. Ate dinner then ran out of things to do, so we listened to a podcast then hit the rack. First light came pretty early. Had breakfast in bed then packed up for the hike out. Kind of windy on the way back which was welcome as it warmed up. Easier hike out going mostly down hill. Finished up before noon.
This segment exceeded expectations. More water than we thought there would be. Very good scenery. Fun two days. Thanks Kelly. :)
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Apr 17 2021
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 phoenix, az
Saddle Mountain - AZT #22Phoenix, AZ
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john and i decided friday afternoon to do the up and back as a backpack/dayhike combo
got going around 0600 saturday morning on the access route to the azt
this was longer than we realized, having done little or no research ahead of time
relied totally on guthooks this trip, allowing me to leave my battery charger at home
usually follow on route scout, but it was actually kind of nice to not be conscious of each mile
the initial miles are not too exciting, but the trails were all in good condition and the scenery improved the further north we went
took a break along a creek a few miles in
nice riparian area and plenty of places to filter
up and around saddle mountain, which featured a nice level contour and easy hiking
some ups and down before dropping into mcfarland canyon around noon, where we set up camp and took a decent break
even had a cup of john's coffee
set out on the 9.4 mile dayhike portion
went along another lush area with plenty of good water where we filtered a liter
a final ascent to the passage end at the mazatzal divide trail
headed back and ran into three thru-hikers on the way to camp
nice to see what others are doing, what kind of gear they have and where they are from
had plenty of daylight this trip to have dinner and relax
we both wanted a chair and a book, but didn't want to carry the weight on a high elevation trip
up at first light, got going around 0645
uneventful trip back, but good scenery and we passed a few more day hikers, one thru-hiker, and one bikepacker
chatted with a thru-hiker at the trailhead who relayed the challenge of passages 19-20
finished up before noon and were home an hour later
i really enjoyed this passage, especially getting on some new trails in the mazzies
good weather and great company, thanks lp!
a few little gear tweaks, as i always can use practice backpacking
our choices get more difficult logistically, and this was probably the last passage we will do as an out and back
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Feb 12 2021
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Saddle Mountain Loop, AZ 
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LJWTriplogs 266
Hiking21.02 Miles 4,256 AEG
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Was going to start from Mormon Grove, but I'd never done Little Saddle Mountain, and it didn't seem like it'd be too much to start from the Cross F TH.

LSM Trail is burned nearly the whole way to SM Trail. Trail is typical of AZT tread and in great shape. Views open up from Saddle Mountain Trail. Took that to Potato Patch and worked my way to about half way up.

Too many unknowns for the rest of the hike and was feeling tired. Significant bushwhack to get as far as I did, seemingly more of the same to gain the summit. Nothing too crazy. Going to head back in a week or two and try again from Peeley TH.

Down to Sheep Creek with a bushwhack around Story Mine. Not worth the effort. Lots of catclaw and manzanita and little reward. Down to McFarland Canyon where some pines were spared. Nice spot down there with an open mine adit right at the jct.

Thicket Spring and West Fork up, over, and down to Cornucopia. Then roads to 25a past Cornucopia Mine, National Mine, and Sunflower Mine. Took an old two track from the Sunflower processing area where nothing remains. It has been recently maintained since the snow melt and makes for good looping options.
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Jan 21 2021
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7579 - 7549 - 7532, AZ 
7579 - 7549 - 7532, AZ
 
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LJWTriplogs 266
Hiking21.20 Miles 4,200 AEG
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An ankle injury and a totalled car kept me out of the mountains to start the year. Used the opportunity to upgrade to something with some clearance and 4wd. Taking it easy the first go, drove to Peeley TH. Went out and back to the unnamed mountain of three summits between Peeley and Mazatzal Peak.

Favorite time of year is when the winter storms in late December/early January roll over the Mazzies. Once the snow drops I have a hard time setting my sights anywhere else. Got to the TH, and the higher peaks in the range were all covered in clouds. Mazatzal Divide trail was as usual in just about perfect shape. Two small downed trees was about it. The southern 9 miles are just about my favorite. Once past Mount Catherine, the views to the west and north open up. Dramatic weather made the sights up the range particularly special.

Nine miles to where I left the trail near Bear Spring. Didn't walk down to the spring but over the piney saddle and up the mountainside to the ridge. Once on the main ridge, the bushwacking stops until the final bit to Peak 7579 where the route heads out of the pines. Probably the best summit. Ended up one of my favorite mountains in the range. Some of the best views, and it has likely the best angle on Mazzie Peak of anywhere. The clouds had dissipated by the time I was there, but rain clouds were rolling in. Quickly made my way over to 7549 and then down to 7532. The ridge between the peaks is awesome, and the brush isn't bad. Route down was steeper but the terrain was clear.

I'd like to go back and summit them in reverse, heading down to Deer Creek after 7579. Wasn't up for it at the time, but surely there is a good enough route. Longer way back to the trailhead meant I was there when the clouds parted again and a rainbow shined through the drizzle. Sweet way to end.
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Nov 28 2020
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Peeley - Sheep - Catherine, AZ 
Peeley - Sheep - Catherine, AZ
 
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LJWTriplogs 266
Hiking15.16 Miles 4,017 AEG
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Had this one planned for a while waiting for cooler weather and a ride to Peeley TH. A couple friends and I got started around 9am hoping to get it all done in a day even with a late-ish start.

Started with Peeley and were at the summit in about an hour. Was worried how long it'd take to get to and from Sheep Mountain, so we didn't hang around and soon set off down the ridgeline.

Worried about sunlight, and with Mount Catherine the main goal of the trip, my friends set off toward the MDT and headed North where they waited for me to summit Sheep Mountain and catch up. We were back hiking together within two hours. Overall found the route down the ridgeline to be well worn and very manageable. Prefer the views from the summit to those from Peeley.

We headed up the brushy slopes of Mount Catherine from the south. I'd like to try again from the north side. Less steep, trail climbs higher, and there's more pine cover. Overall it wasn't bad, and there were good openings through then bushes. Very nice summit and maybe my favorite on the day. Over 300ft higher than Peeley and has a better view of the nearby peaks.

Down to the MDT and back to Cornucopia. Nice stretch with plenty of pines. Sunset as we got back to the trailhead, didn't see anyone on the day.
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Nov 19 2020
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Mount Peeley and Sheep Mountain 6996, AZ 
Mount Peeley and Sheep Mountain 6996, AZ
 
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1st trip
I had done Mount Peeley before but had never done Sheep Mountain, so I decided to do this combo.

I guess that this is somewhat of a Memorial Hike for @gpsjoe. It was just over 10 years ago that he disappeared doing this hike. I was not living in Arizona at the time, so I never got to meet him...but he seems to have been well-liked by many HAZers, so I am sorry that I never had the pleasure to meet him.

I did the same route that several others have done: take the Mazzy Divide Trail to the northside of Peeley; go off-trail to Peeley; then go off-trail mostly following a ridgeline up to Sheep Mountain, passing Frustum #31 along the way. On the way back, near the frustum, we bypassed going back up Peeley and hit the Divide Trail and took it back to the TH. However, I did a crappy job of getting back to the Divide Trail, and we bushwhacked much more than we should have.

There wasn't as much vegetation to deal with as I thought there would be, but there was a good bit more rock scrambling than I envisioned...plus it seems like we went up and over about 10 false summits!

It was a fun hike, but it all of the rock scrambling was a bit strenuous. The views were great on both Peeley and Sheep!
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Nov 14 2020
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Cornucopia - Thicket Spring LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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ShatteredArmTriplogs 356
Run/Jog8.34 Miles 1,976 AEG
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Birthday run for a friend who had never run in the Mazatzals. Decided to start at Mount Peeley TH, and I suggested the 7ish mile Cornucopia/Thicket lollipop. I had run down Cornucopia a few years back as part of an 18 mile fun run, but haven't been south of Peeley since. Stopped at Thicket Spring, and was surprised to find water. Guess last weekend's storm was enough, or it's fairly reliable.

Headed down to the bus for a bit, then back up via W Fork Trail. Thicket Spring trail is pretty overgrown these days, and it's easy to see why this is no longer the AZT alignment. Not as scenic as Cornucopia, although the last half mile or so wasn't bad.

Didn't see anyone else out there until about a half mile from the TH, when we saw another runner we happened to know...she was flagging the turns for this year's fun run, which as it turns out, would be the next morning.

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Apr 24 2020
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Deer Creek - Peeley - Gold Ridge, AZ 
Deer Creek - Peeley - Gold Ridge, AZ
 
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LJWTriplogs 266
Hiking24.07 Miles 4,809 AEG
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Really a Gold Ridge - Peeley - Deer Creek route but I wanted continuity with a hike I did in January when I wasn't able to get it all done counterclockwise. There are a few advantages to taking the loop clockwise. I think there's about 400ft less elevation gained. Maybe this is just a personal preference, but Gold Ridge is prettiest at sunrise as Deer Creek is in the light of day. DC is cooler than GR during the middle and later parts of the day, and obviously there's water all the way down. Gave it a second go, starting a quarter before 6am.

Gold Ridge is as usual in just about perfect shape. Good wildflower display on the lower and middle portions of trail. The deadfall has been cleared off the upper parts of the trail. Camp Grasshopper is clear for high clearance and good tires.

Saw the first people on the Divide Trail, a trio of backpackers. East slopes of Peeley the day started to feel warm. Cooled off under the pines on the north side and on the summit. Terrific visibility that turned hazier as increasing wind blew distant smoke around to the south. Plus the Phoenix haze that not even a state of emergency and stay at home orders can lift from the city.

Saw the second and last person on the day at the upper Deer Creek trailhead. Headed down the sharp grade and took a break at Gowan Camp. Good flow of water in Deer Creek and the wildflowers were constant. Water wasn't very cold and didn't help much cooling off. Trail has more deadfall than in January, and the grasses have grown in over the trail in parts. Route's easy to find, and there are regular cairns. Trail is noticeably warmer from the grave site to the trailhead.

Ended up around 90 degrees when I finished. The water and wildflower situation is at peak but probably on the way down, week or two to be worth much. There was a small brush fire at the Sycamore Creek turn off opposite the one to Four Peaks on the way back to Phoenix.
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