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Apr 19 2025
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 Chandler, AZ
Tortilla Mountain - Superstition WildernessPhoenix, AZ
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John10sTriplogs 346
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We pulled together a plan late on Friday evening, with a fantastic weather forecast for Saturday. I'd had Tortilla on my list for a few years and threw that out as an option...exactly the smooth, on-trail hike chumley was looking for :). After overnight rain, some of the low peaks were still in clouds on the drive and early in the hike. No other vehicles in the parking lot, and it was in the low 50s as we started up FR 213.

We had a few route options loaded and decided on the loop, leaving the road after less than 1.5 miles to start the climb. We loosely followed the 2017 @jacobemerick route up a ridge, past some alcoves, then down into a drainage with quite a few bedrock pools. From there, we checked out a concrete dam, then resumed the climb up to the ridgeline that would take us south to the peak, and the views of the western Supes opened up nicely.

We opted to go up and over the top of the rock outcroppings on the ridgeline to avoid side-hilling through brush. That worked out well, though we did hit one spot that started to get sketchy, but a short backtrack revealed a chute with a much easier bypass. We detoured over to a window in the rock outcropping a little north of the summit--cool geology and formations in that area, then over to the summit with a straightforward scramble up the NE side.

We had cloud cover and cool temps on top, and the 360° views from the peak were fantastic. Many, many Superstition, Mazzy, Goldfield, and other distant landmarks visible. We took a long break up there and enjoyed our first food/water of the hike, then signed the register before starting down.

[ youtube video ]

We dropped down the south side of the summit block, which was mostly vertical and included some unfortunately placed catclaw and various pokey things to keep it extra interesting, but it worked out. We considered a few route options and decided to descend the drainage on the official route. Very steep and loose toward the top, but it was manageable, and distance-wise, it wasn't too long before we were back on Peter's Trail, which had been recently cleared.

Rather than walking 213 back to the parking lot, we hiked up to Fish Mesa and enjoyed the incredible views overlooking the creek. Past the benchmark, we took a relaxing break in the shade of the lone juniper before following the mesa edge north. By that time, the clouds had finally cleared off Four Peaks. Looping back to the road required crossing two drainages--one smaller, then down into a deeper creek bed, navigating a series of layered-rock levels. On the far side, we picked up a ridiculously over-cairned trail that connected to the road to finish it off.

Fun day all around--comfortable temps that stayed under 70° all day, nice clouds, great peak with scenic views, no new holes in the shorts, more flowers than I've seen on any other hike this year, plus we found some small ruins. Absolute gem of an April day, and I'm glad I suggested Tortilla and it worked out--the day exceeded high expectations.
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Tortilla Mountain - Superstition WildernessPhoenix, AZ
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking14.93 Miles 4,212 AEG
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I had never even looked at this one, apparently part of my unintentional superstitious blind spot. It had been on John's list and upon discussing the phenomenal late-April weather, we decided to make this one the goal on what is nearly certain to be the last tolerable Stits hike of the season.

We opted to do the reverse of what we continually referred to as the @jacobemerick route. We deviated from his route a bit, probably because the view looking up presented some different looking options than he had on the descent. Regardless, this was a really enjoyable route to the summit with minimal obstacles, only a couple of moderately steep climbs, and easily avoided catclaw.

It was about 2.5 miles and 1500 feet from our crossing of Tortilla Creek until reaching the northern reaches of the Tortilla Mountain ridgeline. From there it was another mile and 500 feet more to reach the distinct summit, with a couple of added highlights along the way.

After not stopping for so much as a sip of water on the 3 hour ascent, we spent a solid break enjoying the views at the top, which extended from the Galiuros to the Catalinas, White Tanks, Bradshaws, Pine Mountain, the Mazzies from Lion to Sheep, Ord and Browns, and the Ancha — the latter four caked in spring snow. Poofy clouds lingered from yesterday's storm and enhanced the views and photos.

After adding our names to the summit register, we opted to descend via the official route as posted on HAZ, which is a pretty miserable option. It would certainly be a better climb than descent, but the Emerick route was so much more pleasant, I'm not sure I would ever do this route again! The only benefit was that you do eventually reach the maintained Peter's Trail, so it's only 1.5 miles of off-trail. But the 1500 feet of elevation is highly concentrated on the upper half of the mileage and is replete with loose scree, prickly flora, and no particularly intuitive or pleasant-looking route. Doable? Sure. Enjoyable? Not so much.

Once on Peter's we made quick time out to the trailhead where we opted for the scenic return along the cliffs above Fish Creek Canyon. (I refuse to accept that a mountain or mesa can be named "fish" lol). This stretch is a favorite alternative to walking the 213 and with the perfect weather, did not disappoint.

Temps hovered in the low 60s most of the day, topping out at 67 as we finished up and the afternoon sun made a more steady appearance. Often enough the clouds and cool breeze resulted in being borderline chilly. Not a bad thing for this time of year!

This turned out to be a really enjoyable loop. Lots of variety, perfect weather, and top notch views. The official route? Yeah, find a different way! Lol.
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Boulder Canyon TH to Tortilla THPhoenix, AZ
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Added bonus of a great motorcycle ride of the Apache Trail on a perfect weather, not too busy afternoon. One of the recent forums (can't find exact link), there was a debate about biking SR 88. On a weekday, this just might work between these two trailheads, but below Tortilla Flat to the marina would be iffy. Aren't some of those snowbirds drinking alcohol with their meals? :-k
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Peak 4143 and LDM Jr, AZ 
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Not too shabby of a view from this interesting peak. I spent many hours today pruning out the Acacia and some Shrub live oak along the Hoolie Bacon Trail between the JF Trail junction and the Horse Ridge saddle below Peak 4143. The trail on the ascent/descent to the saddle is eroded and rough, but now if there's any a rippin' and the tearin', you probably were looking at the scenery instead of where you were hiking. Our return included a side trip to the Lost Dutchman Mine Junior. Weird geology over there for sure and also interesting. Coffee Flat Mountain (which dominates Herman Mountain) still has some snow on its upper north aspect.
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Fish Taco with Bacon, AZ 
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It was necessary to modify a route up to Tortilla Mountain because I didn't account for most of the creeks in the area essentially being rivers. Which was fine because sometimes exploring off the beaten path leads to interesting discoveries. TM most definitely is a nice Supes summit, considering it's the highest point for miles around with great views, especially snowy Four Peaks. I descended a more inspiring route (I think jacobemerick's Jan.'17 track) than the official route and then integrated the crappy Rippin' and the Tearin' Horse Basin crossover and some of Fish Mesa into a CCW loop. Unfortunately, I forgot to run-up Hoolie Bacon to Peak 4143. I'll admit that HB is somewhat growing on me, since for once its banality was muted by the sound of rapids. Water reports seem superfluous currently because moisture is seeping from every crevice, side drainage and flowing down the muddy trails. And there's another storm forecasted, so it should be a good wildflower season again.
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Tortilla TH to Tortilla WellPhoenix, AZ
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Third times a charm for getting up Music Mountain. Many pokeys, much catclaw. Route down was much less painful than the route up. Peters Trail to the turnoff is in decent shape.
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Tortilla Mountain - Superstition WildernessPhoenix, AZ
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I have been wanting to hike to Tortilla Mountain and the stars were aligned yesterday to do so!

My stock vehicle did not have enough clearance to make it past the trailhead on FR 213, so we walked the road instead. Once to Tortilla Well, we took the Peters Trail for about 1.3 miles to Indian Spring, where we went off-trail to Tortilla Mountain.

The road walk was pretty easy, although it was a bit rocky in places. On the way out, I lost Peters Trail while going through a wash and stayed in the wash longer than I would have liked. On the way back I managed to stay on Peters Trail the whole way, which worked out better. I thought that the tread on Peters Trail was good, and even though the trail was a tad overgrown in places I enjoyed hiking on it.

On the off-trail portion, we made our way to a drainage that first went west and then northwest toward Tortilla Mountain. I wound up getting out of the drainage and went southwest up toward a ridge, and then had to traverse to tne northwest to meet up to the drainage on the way to a saddle. Once out of the drainage the slopes were steep, brushy, and a bit loose; this made for some slow hiking.

Once up to the saddle above the drainage, the heavy lifting had been done -- it was relatively flat hiking over to the summit block. The south side of the summit block has some intimidating looking cliffs and I could tell that we still had some work to do. We made our to the northeast side of the summit block, where there was a nice break in the cliffs which made for a fairly easy class 2 scramble to the top. Views are great at the top and are some of the best in the Supes imho.

On the way back, I started going north down from the summit block, but didn't like the looks of it so I backtracked and went back down the same way that I came up.

Once back to the saddle, we made a very steep descent to the drainage, and followed the drainage back down. There were several dryfalls that required some short class 3 moves to navigate -- I made good use of the five point-of-contact technique a few times!

If I was to do the hike again, I would both ascend and descend through the drainage rather than doing what I did on the ascent.

In spite of the steep, brushy slopes I enjoyed the hike. I thought that the views were great at the summit and along the way -- the geology is nice in this area. Plus, it was a fun scramble up to the summit. On the way back, I was very happy to get back to the Peters Trail!
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I did not see the spring but there were some small pools of water that I probably would not filter.
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Tortilla - Fish MesaPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking12.56 Miles 2,287 AEG
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We arrived at Tortilla TH a little after 7AM, and a vehicle with a HAZ decal pulled up right after us. When the driver got out, I recognized hikerdw from pictures on HAZ, so I got out and introduced myself, and we talked for a minute before he and his son headed out for their hike.

We planned to hike the Tortilla-Fish Mesa loop counterclockwise, with some added detours to a few other points of interest nearby. It was in the low/mid-40s when we started up FR 213, which had quite a few puddles and some mud from the recent rain. Our first detour was a stop to get a closer look at a possible dwelling wall I noticed on a hike to Music Mountain two years ago [ photo ] .

It was easy getting over there, and I found three small walls in a short alcove, plus a few shallow grinding holes. It must've been used as a granary or storage area, because the ceilings were very low. It was interesting to see that the natives used a big rock slab to form major sections of at least one of the walls and then added smaller rocks and mortar to fill it out--I haven't seen those construction "shortcuts" at many sites.

[ youtube video ]

The next stop was another ruins site up on a cliff wall that required a little more effort to reach but wasn't bad aside from some brush and catclaw. Once I located it, I left all my stuff with TBoneKathy and worked my way over there, though I wished I'd brought the clippers to deal with the catclaw. This site was a larger walled-off cave, with one wall in decent shape and another deteriorated down to the point that it looked more like a column of rock. Up above the cave, there were a few more small walls built on a narrow ledge, probably granaries or storage structures.

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There were a few vehicles and tents set up when we reached JF Trailhead, and we continued on to the gravesites of George Miller and then Ernest Martin. I dropped down into the drainage below and briefly looked for the Miller Tunnel Number One Spring but didn't see it, so I headed back up and we backtracked on JF Trail to get back on the route to Fish Mesa. We had to do some light scrambling to get up to the high point at the 3785 benchmark and took a lunch break there. As others have mentioned, the elevation on the benchmark seems too high based on the GPS reading.

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The summit cairn was dismantled and scattered around. I'd read there's no longer a register up there, so I brought a jar and placed a new one and rebuilt the cairn. The top of Four Peaks was in the clouds, and the views overlooking Fish Creek Canyon were fantastic. It was easy hiking along the ridgeline, but we encountered more catclaw and a little rougher terrain dropping down into a drainage and coming up the other side before reconnecting with FR 213.

We had some extra time, so we went back to the first ruins site so TboneKathy could get a closer look since she didn't see it up close in the morning. We finally saw two other hikers on the road as we finished off the hike, and there were eight other vehicles at Tortilla TH when we finished, with more people setting up to watch the sunset along SR 88 on the drive out. It was a good day--we had comfortable weather, nice clouds, and great scenery throughout. It was fun to do some exploring and visit two ruins sites and the grave markers we hadn't seen before, and it was nice meeting @hikerdw in the morning :).
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Black Cross Fishiness, AZ 
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Completed the triplet today also, but didn't drive between three peaks, just kept walking. I thought the bushwackiness was minimal, but almost the entire hiking area I strolled through appears to have been burned fairly recently and I didn't follow the official route from the beginning. Settled into a bunch of sheep trails on many of the miles covered. Two hours to Fish Creek Peak, another hour to Black Cross Butte and four hours total to Fish Creek Mountain. From that third summit, I wasn't quite sure dropping into Fish Creek was possible, but the steep and unique ridge descent worked out. I was only cliffed out a few times and had to bypass downclimb a few times. The section of Fish Creek that I did hike has been filled with gravel and sand since I'd hiked it last September. What a beautiful canyon! Awesome Arizona Sycamores, Cottonwoods, giant Saguaros, caves and boulders. I also chose the Lost Dutch exit to Tortilla instead of Fish Creek Canyon since I plan on hiking that another time soon.
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dry Lost Dutch Canyon Dry Dry
But a few quality pools above where the spring is map labeled.
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Solid Contender! : wink : After our last Supes viperfest, this loop provided more open desert space to avoid getting struck.
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We had a group that met up with a volunteer and FS ranger to do some trail maintenance on Peters Trail. We got about the first mile cleared up of catclaw and other brush.
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Sarcastically diminutive title for a relentlessly brutal and endearing route. Almost every one of the linked trail sections are all about The Rippin' and the Tearin', just not in the same context as Hedo Rick! Unless the catclaw rips ones lip or tears ones sack. :o You'll also likely have some cactus spines that one of your significant others can help remove afterwards. Nitty Gritty Slitty Kitty!
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Fun loop hike. We were surprised that there was ample evidence of bear activity at such a low Supes elevation. Fresh tracks in the mud and lots of fresh scat. The wasp activity was insane. At our first break it was nearly impossible to sit for very long without being swarmed. Those fallen boulders on the Apache Trail are massive! :o I wouldn't expect the road to open anytime soon. And there were leeches in the few pools that were present, and they were relentless little poos!
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Fish Creek Loop, AZ 
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Late December is usually a good time of year to enjoy the seasonal changes in Fish Creek Canyon, and it had been several years since I had done it last so when 9L suggested it, it was an easy yes.

I couldn't remember the logic of doing this loop clockwise, typically downstream in any canyon is my preferred choice, but after some recollection, this one can have some deep pools at the bottom, so if you want to avoid mandatory swimming or a loooooooong backtrack, upstream is the option that prevents that. All things considered, if you have a reasonable understanding of current water levels, downstream would be the preferred option. But if you don't know for sure or aren't comfortable with the risk/challenge you might face at the end, upstream is the way to go.

Water levels were great for us, keeping feet dry was an option, nevermind avoiding any deep water wading or swimming. Fall colors were delightful, the temperature was fantastic. An overall great day to be in the Stits.

We found the exit route to be lightly cairned and heavily 'clawed. That's only going to get worse as post-fire years elapse.

Upon reaching the JF trail, we opted to skip the 3 miles on 213 and took the DW option instead. I'd never gone this way and it was a winner. The Fish Cliff route takes a bit longer than speed walking a boring forest road, but the views are second to none. There's a bit of a trick at the end to cross a canyon and get back to the trailhead, but still worth it. And the only two junipers that escaped fires and exist in the western Stits can be found up here. Bonus!
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I got inspired to come back and look for some rock piles after our recent trip to this area a few weeks ago. The recent rains already had the desert a little greener and looking less stale than our last visit, there were several large puddles left behind in the road as well. We started our hike to a breezy 47 degree morning.

We found what we were looking for, plus another pretty dilapidated dwelling in the process. The site was rich in the usual artifacts of pottery sherds and flaked stone, but lacked any notable walls or standing "ruins." However, there was an interesting granary and partial wall just above the site that added some uniqueness to the otherwise pretty standard set of rock piles. We took an extended break at the site and then returned the way we came.

A bit of a busy day on the old Tortilla Road, we saw a couple of vehicles on the road, passed some adventurous hunters, hunting a few feet off the road and encountered several hikers on the way back to the TH.
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I took a trip to Black Mountain Summit over Peter’s Mesa. I was trying to find summit logs but only got a few. I’m sure more have been up there but not many wrote about it? I figured I’d either be hiking in the dark in the morning or hiking in the dark coming back. I opted to sleep in and have breakfast with my family before heading out. I got to Tortilla 213 around 9am. There were 4 cars in the lot, which is a lot from my experience. Tortilla always looks dry to me and today the yellow hills were no exception. I’ve been here many times so I jumped on the trail without much ceremony. Soon I was at Peter’s 105 battling catclaw. We really need a trail crew to go through there with the big loppers and widen the narrowing passages. Some places are so think that it’s easier to go around than to stay “on trail”. I often do maintenance, but decided I didn’t have time to dilly-dally.

I’ve seen Peter’s in much better shape, but not crying about it. Not enough people ever tramp through there to make a really clear reliable trail. Also since it follows canyons, It’s hard to get lost and always alternate routes to be taken.
The rain 2 days ago left puddles and little more water for the duration of the hike. I always carry but have a filter too. Didn’t need it. There were still Sycamore and other trees showing fall colors in Tortilla Creek. Kane spring was running like clockwork and the actual spring source always looks the same. If you haven’t been there, the trees around the spring took a bad hit from the Sawtooth fire. Everything around it looks bad. Back on Peter’s I was again assaulted by the red rock bandit. Spray painted cairns kept popping up. I was thinking the painter was back?? I guess It’s possible that I missed a bunch the last few times? I did what I could, and disposed of a few dozen more red cairns.

I made pretty good time and was up top around 4 hours later. Searching I found no summit register so added a small one. There is a false summit (GPS says 10 feet lower) so I’m pretty sure I got the right one. Anyway just a formality if I didn’t, I suppose. It was hazy so the pictures came out ok but not stellar. I poked around a small bit but there isn’t much daylight this time of year. I had a snack and relaxed and then I put on my track shoes and made good time back to Tortilla a bit after dark.
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Tortilla TH to Tortilla WellPhoenix, AZ
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Its been a long time since I walked this road and I still tip my hat to those who make it all the way to the end. No vehicle of mine will ever attempt it.

The road walk was quick and pleasant, although, it did some how feel a little warm at times. The area around the well and ranch did not appear to suffer any damage from the most recent fires, but there was no water anywhere and the area had a bit of a stale feel. Some winter rains would serve this area well. We hiked just past the well to a spot up canyon that I had remembered holding a little water during drier times, but no such luck, so we just took an extended break in the shade. We hiked out to cloud cover and a shaded road.
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A couple of sycamores holding on to some color.

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Music Mountain via Tortilla Pass Trailhead, AZ 
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I hiked part of Trap Canyon a few weeks ago and wanted to check out Music Mountain just to the north, so we decided to hike in from Tortilla Pass Trailhead. We had a nice sunrise on the drive along SR 88 past Canyon Lake and Tortilla Flat. Any thoughts we might have had about driving Service Road 213 to start the hike directly at Peter's Trail were quickly abandoned when we saw how rough it was...I imagine all but the highest clearance 4x4s would have problems on the first few tenths of a mile on 213. It's not as rough after that, but the early part is very rocky and uneven.

We'd planned to hike the road anyway, and that part was fast hiking toward Tortilla Ranch. There's not much left to see there--some old fences/corrals, water troughs, metal posts, and a concrete foundation. We turned onto Peter's Trail and started following the creek bed. It's a beautiful area in the canyon, with some balancing rocks and natural windows up above. We saw a few remaining cairns spray painted red that @ScottHika mentioned in his 5/15/21 triplog. He'd removed almost all of them, and I tossed the few remaining ones that I saw out of sight off the trail. There was very little water in the creek bed, just one or two stagnant pools along the route.

Once we were back out of the creek bed, there was a fair amount of catclaw along the trail. I clipped a lot of out it out of the way when going around it wasn't an option, and it was even worse on the off-trail portion of the hike after we left #105 to head toward the northeast side of Music Mountain. Dodging and clipping the catclaw slowed the pace, though it was a little easier to avoid one we started the final scent to the top, with a lot more exposed rock to climb on where we could avoid the brush.

The ascent up Music Mountain was steep but manageable, and I found a single, random pot sherd on the slope but didn't see any others in the area. With the slower pace on the off-trail portion, we were approaching our turnaround time, and my partner stayed behind while I continued up to the top. The views of 5057, Weaver's Needle, the ridgeline, and Tortilla Mountain were fantastic. The mountaintop is very flat, so it took a little wandering to find the summit cairn and register.

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The small jar had some old pages sealed in a Ziploc that looked like they had water damage and were almost illegible, and there was a small pencil from a law firm that was shaped like a gavel with a double eraser...never seen one of those before. The jar had a few new sheets inside that FOTG and Jordyn placed on 2/28/21. The only signatures on the new pages were theirs and Scott's from 5/15/21, and I added my entry and took a few pictures around the top. With my partner still waiting below, I didn't take the time to explore further south to get better views of Trap Canyon and Herman Mountain like I'd hoped.

I headed back down, and we battled the catclaw back to Peter's Trail and resumed the hike out. The afternoon shadows were nice, and we stopped for a late lunch on the foundation at Tortilla Ranch before finishing off the hike. I'd zoomed in on a few caves throughout the day, and looking at the pictures later, I noticed that one short cave may have some cliff dwelling walls that I'll have to explore next time I'm out there. The temperature was very comfortable today, and the only other people we saw were two people with a few dogs walking back to the parking lot along 213 ahead of us as we finished the hike. The area around Music Mountain is a very beautiful part of the Superstitions, and I hope to get back there soon to do more hiking.
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Peter's Canyon - Upper LoopPhoenix, AZ
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I chose Peter’s Canyon Loop hoping to stay and hike in town a while longer before it gets too hot. With temps creeping into the high 90s and little chance of water, this was not an easy day hike. Hiking during the dry season is a blessing and a curse. There’s little/no salvageable water to capitalize on, so I had to carry. Also the canyon is much more scenic with water flowing. The upside is that it’s a bit easier to pass through when dry.

I started 6:30 am at Tortilla Flat and did a counter clockwise loop through the canyon, along Peter’s 105, FR213 and back on the 88 about 11.5 hours later. I was conserving but misjudged and ran out of water at Tortilla, so caught a lift the last few miles back to Tortilla Flat. I could have made it but decided not to press my luck.

Part of the reason I picked this hike is that I heard rumors that the infamous red-paint-tagger had been through Peter’s Canyon. Good news, there were no red painted cairns within the actual canyon. While back on the 105 I was motivated to remove another 100+ bright red eyesores from that section. This was the segment from Peter’s Canyon back to where I turned off for Music Mountain recently. I suspect that the trail from Peter’s Canyon up to the Mesa is probably still filled with ugly red rocks. To be honest it was pretty exhausting correcting the vandalism on an already long day hike and really slowed me down. Other than that it was a great look at Peter’s in the month of May and a trip that I’ll probably always remember. Check the photoset for more details.
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