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Pinto Loop, AZ 
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Hiking18.39 Miles 3,203 AEG
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Pinto Peak 5991Globe, AZ
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Hiking10.95 Miles 2,944 AEG
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Three star Supes summit for several reasons. The first is that it is one of the five highest in the wilderness and now I've completed them all, some of them multiple times. Not sure I'll repeat this one like Lee and Wally did though. : wink : It also has great views, but not quite as good as Mound Mountain. The creek section has rugged beauty, but not quite as nice as Campaign Creek, Fish Creek, Frog Tanks or Rogers Canyon (to name a few others). I ascended the official route to the summit, but decided to descend the SE ridgeline to the Cuff Button Trail. It was a last minute decision after enjoying some liquid courage in the wind with the bee flies and ladybugs. The alternate route seemed like less of an interior Chaparral bushwhack, but it turned out to be worse lower since the Cuff Button Trail is in horrible shape. Lots of ripping and tearing Wait-a-minute bushes. By comparison, the Campaign Trail to the Pinto Divide is actually not too shabby! I hadn't noticed Wally's triplog about descending the SE ridgeline until after getting home. It definitely is a more direct route. At least I hiked some of a trail I hadn't done before and Jerky Spring was also kind of neat. Most of the bypasses along the West Pinto section are essentially worthless since there is a bunch of deadfall and thick, fresh vegetation. You also miss many of the good creek sections on the silly cairned diversions. I thought following the creek bed on my ascent route was much more enjoyable hiking.
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Dry several hundred feet below the source.
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 Gold Canyon, AZ
West Pinto - Campaign to DivideGlobe, AZ
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Had the day off yesterday and I hadn't hiked Campaign up to the divide so I drove up to the Miles trailhead to a balmy 23 degrees with no other cars in sight. Tons of water in Pinto and Rock creek which made the creek walk all that more interesting. Was a bit slower trying to dodge the water and all of the debris for the several flashes that have occurred in the area the past few years. This area continues to change each time the creek flashes.Took a quick break by the old (now burned) wooden corral and started the elevator ride up. The trail starts off at a steep grade mellows out a little about mid way through but the last 3/4 of a mile is steep and feels like it's never gonna end. The trail is in decent shape, it gets a little fuzzy towards the top with the grass and the catclaw gets pretty extensive the higher up you go, it's not a hike without the catclaw has been my saying lately. :lol: There was some snow in spots which added some fun to a couple of sections as well. Made it to the top of the divide, had lunch and explored a bit before making my way back down. I tried a little harder to follow the old tread in the creek section on the way back, most of it has been reclaimed by nature. There were several times I would come across a cairn in deep grass with no trail in sight or it would take me through a horrible catclaw forest. The brush is coming back on top, but everything that was there is nice and crisp. Awesome day with great weather (low 40's) and not a soul in sight, just what I needed.
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Circlestone Solstice via Superstition Crest, AZ 
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Hiking18.58 Miles 4,924 AEG
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Apr 14 2018
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Wildcat - Pinto - Campaign Loop, AZ 
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Hiking18.86 Miles 3,473 AEG
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Bruce gleaned this 3 county route from Lee stating that he'd hiked it 3 times. He studied up on it too. It was cool to have a tour guide.

Apparently I liked Wildcat a smidge more than the three timer. The old Pinto #213 leg was interesting. The catclaw ending robbed brownie points. Pants sufficed. Nowhere near the top ten list of bad catclaw, Wave Cavers would probably consider it a nightmare.

Campaign to Fireline is in the best shape I recall. We lunched under the pines near the junction. Up to the saddle SW of Pinto Peak is brushy. Down to West Pinto Creek is steep but the views are top notch.

Enjoyed #212 just shy of Oak Flat to square one more than anticipated.
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tenth mile stretch with medium to small poppies was an unexpected treat being so dry this year

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout

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Wildcat - Pinto - Campaign Loop, AZ 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,762
Hiking18.47 Miles 3,420 AEG
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Wildcat Canyon has been on my radar for quite some time. The Miles Trailhead is just a tad over 100 miles from my house, so I like to make it worth the trip and find some other new areas to hit while out there. The decommissioned Pinto Peak #213 fit the bill for a loop. FOTG had already done this loop a few times so I didn't even need to draw up a track.

A 7:15a 40ish degree start started us past the ranch building and a guy curled up next to a fire.

Wildcat Canyon Trail
To the first saddle, the trail is pretty straight forward. From this saddle, down to the wash area has a few areas that are thin and prickly, but quite doable. In the canyon travel is easy. we missed one of the bypasses that horse travel took, leaving the creek, when we dealt with getting around an exploring bovine. Staying in the creek bed was NP.

On the Cuff Button #276 for 2.5 miles is mainly old FR 305.

Decommissioned Pinto Peak Trail #213 follows a 2 track to the Wilderness boundary. It's an easy walk through some interesting territory. The Mormon Corral had all sorts of water. There were 3 full troughs and a 200-300 gallon metal tank that was 2/3rds full. After the Wilderness boundary,the trail gets thinner in some spots, but does come back if you have the GPS track. As FOTG mentioned the only catclaw section, is in the last 1/2 mile or so before reaching Campaign.

The Campaign Trail #256 is cleared and 6' wide in spots all the way south to the Fireline trail. After here, there is less than a mile section that needs some love. The rest of the trail down to West Pinto, is decent with some nice views, We even saw some poppies.

On the roller coaster of the West Pinto #212, just 2.5 miles back to the TH.

Weather was just about perfect on this one.
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Saw some small poppies, lupine.

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The area has scattered water that has been fouled by bovine activity.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Flat Rock Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
Their is a Corral downstream from this location which I believe this is piped to. The was a large container and a trough full of water.

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Musk Hog Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Clear and cool in the trough downstream in the coral

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Pools in the area
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 Kodiak, AK
West Pinto loop from Miles Ranch, AZ 
West Pinto loop from Miles Ranch, AZ
 
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mr_squishyTriplogs 27
Hiking31.55 Miles 7,002 AEG
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After a rough drive on FR 287 and FR 287A, I arrived at the Miles Ranch TH midafternoon Sunday, Nov 12 and camped in my Sportsmobile. Several vehicles belonging to hunters were parked and I saw at least ten hunters Sunday and Monday at or around the trailhead.
On the trail at 8:15 Monday, carrying seven liters of water which made the pack a bit heavy (32 total pounds, including GPS and inReach); luckily my base weight is pretty light.. Saw a camper at the corral at the Campaign TH who ended up being the only person I saw on the entire loop over three days. It was a hot hike up to the Divide and I was glad I had a three liter reservoir of Gatorade. More shade on the downhill to the Fireline trail intersection. I had planned to camp here, but I arrived at 1 pm and had plenty of water, so I decided to press on and camp at Circlestone which I had visited once before. Made it after 7 hours of hiking, 10.76 miles, 3973 ft elev gain. I was pretty slow on the hike up Fireline as I had already done 3000 ft elev gain. Made a cowboy camp and was treated to a great sunset and a great sunrise.
Tuesday, on the Fireline trail at 8:15, I filled up at the Fireline/Reavis stream and headed up to the saddle - plenty of shade made for a pleasant hike. Down the Switchbacks from Hell in the sun to the canyon with a stop at the Reavis Gravesite. Headed up toward Rogers Trough TH to hit the West Pinto intersection and hike up to the Iron Mountain saddle to camp. Near Rogers Spring I got off trail and made a bad decision: according to the GPS, the trail was only 200 feet away. I decided to cut trail and bushwhacked, thinking just how bad could it be? Hahahahahaha....thirty minutes later, I finally hit the trail with numerous scratches and a pinhole in one Hydrapak Seeker, luckily near the top, so I didn't lose much water. A bit irritating to have it drip on my calf up the trail, however.
Iron Mountain saddle didn't really have a campsite, so I cowboy camped where the trail goes through the barbed wire fence right below the mountain. That night, I was laying in my sleeping bag at 8:30 when all of a sudden the entire area lit up like daylight. I sat up and caught the last second of the meteorite which made the Phoenix news the next day. Wow! Day 2 was about 12 miles, 2100 ft elev gain, 7 hours on trail.
Next morning, on the trail at 8 am, I hiked the West Pinto trail on back to Miles Ranch where a cold beer awaited me. Near Oak Flats I saw a skunk with an enormous, beautiful white tail and also 10-15 Coatimundi.
Made it to the trailhead about 1:30 and headed back to AJ. Day 3 - about 10 miles, 1000 ft elev gain, 5 hours hiking.
I wore shorts the entire hike and my legs show the results of lots of catclaw on this route.
Talked to a hunter who pulled over to let my pass on 287A - I can't imagine hunting and trying to keep meat from spoiling when the temperature is in the 80s.
Excellent trip, highly recommended if you don't mind hauling your water. Based on this trip, I think I will try to haul water and dry camp in saddles from now on - warmer, longer daylight, and solitude.

dry Crockett Spring Dry Dry
No water near trail.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Iron Mountain Spring Dripping Dripping
Seeping - you would have to dig a hole to obtain water

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Saw some water.

dry Oak Flat Spring Dry Dry
I did not see any water.

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Flowing water, several pools.


water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Rock Creek Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Observed a couple pools - no flow apparent.

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Seep below pipe; pipe dripping

dry Spencer Spring Creek Dry Dry
No apparent water.

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No water near trail

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No water near trail.
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Pinto Peak 5991Globe, AZ
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I am not sure what gave me the urge to do this peak again, but I did. A rewarding peak with an attraction, but the off trail portion is a bit taxing.

I feel I was more efficient this time through the manzanita jungle and along the fence line, however, it was still a slog at times for me and the pups. I took a nice break on the peak to snack and let the dogs rest. There are some great views from Pinto Peak from the Pinals to the views across Lake Roosevelt into the Ancha, a glimpse of the Four Peaks and so much more. There was hardly a cloud in the sky, but the wind and chilly day made it puffy coat weather on the peak. The off trail portion back to Campaign trail went better on the way back and although it could use some work, the trip down Campaign Trail was pretty quick too. There are some significant pools of water along West Pinto Trail, however, it is not even trickling. I only saw one other person all day, a hunter spotting deer near the trailhead.

Just another nice day in the eastern Supes.
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Miles Ranch, AZ 
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Our 17th annual spring break trip for the 2-3 of us (Max and I haven’t done all 17 but Jim has). Good times.
This year we chose Miles Ranch and must give some HAZ appreciation to Lee for sure on this one: thanks for all the suggestions and useful info.

After 30 years of AZ hiking I finally make it to one of FOTG’s favorites :lol: I’m not sure why I hadn’t been here but I think perhaps the massive open pit mines had something to do with it.

Day 1
West Pinto out to Spencer and up to Cement Spring. On the way back we took Cuff Button up to a bit beyond Jerky Spring which was down the side slope.
We got about 3 hours rain in late afternoon but it eased up by 6pm.

Day 2
Paradise to Government Hill ridge and over to Bull Basin. We saw a total of 8 deer (one large buck) on the ridge part of this trip. The descent to Bull Basin we got in some heavy brush that was gnarly :sweat: On our return to Miles we saw 2 Toyotas with HAZ decals :)

Day 3
Out and back from Haunted Canyon upper TH. Saw one hiker, the only person we saw all weekend.

Stopped at AZW on the way back :)
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I am starting to feel like I am running out of spots to explore in the Supes, so I have decided to look up, as in peaks and summits. I crossed an obscure Eastern Supes peak off my list today, although Pinto Peak is a pretty distinguishable terrain feature of the Eastern Supes and hardly obscure, maybe seldom visited is a better way to describe. Similarly, at just under 6000 feet I believe it would come in as the third highest mountain in the Superstition Wilderness area behind White and Mound Mountain.

The off trail portion up Pinto Peak bordered on diabolical and pleasant. The most natural route follows an old fence line pretty much the entire way, one cannot divert much from this fence line either, or you will end up in some of the thickest brush you have ever encountered. It took Blanco and I over an hour to go the seven tenths of a mile needed to reach the summit of Pinto Peak. I finally learned to hug the fence line and make use of the small path next to the fence and to not be lured by false trails leading away from it. My hard work was rewarded with an Indian ruin site located on the saddle below Pinto and a mystery wall or remnants of a fortress on Pinto's summit. The final push up the peak was actually the nicest portion of the off-trail route as there was minimal brush, some nice paths through the rock out croppings and some pretty established game trails. However, the majority of the route was slow going with several fence crossings and slithering through areas made nearly impassable by some our favorite off trail mainstays manzinita, acacia and holy oak.

I had aspirations of also knocking out Mound Mountain, but the slow trip up Pinto and a late start made that look like less of a possibility by the time noon hit. However, not to be deterred I still chose to take Campaign north and Fireline into Reavis just to see where I would be at in time and energy. I honestly felt pretty good, but it was already 2 and although I had already committed to a head lamp finish, I wanted to limit it to West Pinto, as it is a pretty easy trail to follow at night.

Pretty standard hiking the rest of way, I ran into a group of four with one guy who was hurting pretty bad, they had hiked in from Pickett Post and had committed to hiking out Lake Roosevelt on Sunday. They were only about a mile or so in from Roger's TH and looking for a place to camp, with one guy looking for a ride to Surprise, he said there was no way he thought he could finish this hike, I just really could not help though as my car was at Miles and not Rogers Trough. He offered money, but I just could not think of a way I could help him, there was no way he was hiking out to Miles with me in his condition. He had two more parties behind me to ask, so maybe he got lucky.

I ran into a HAZ guy named Dave near Roger's Trough. He had just completed a Spencer Spring, West Pinto Loop. He had recognized the white dog, we chatted for a minute and continued my race with the setting sun. I broke down at 18:41 and finally put on my head lamp we arrived at Miles TH just after nine.
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 Phoenix, AZ
Reavis Ranch via Miles TH, AZ 
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Third dayhike to Reavis Ranch in a month's time and all from different trailheads :D

Met up early with BiFrost and slowandsteady to meet Lee out at the Miles TH. I had canceled my overnight because of the weather coming in but wasn't afraid to dayhike in it. It was nice to hit some sections of trail I'd never done before, too.

The weather was great for the hike in. There's a few real big climbs to conquer but eventually you get the apples at the ranch. We took our break and filtered some water for the hike out. Leaving Lee and the dogs behind, we headed out and the rain came pretty quickly as we headed back up the Fireline. After sprinkling just a bit for a while, it grew harder and harder and then the thunder and lightning got closer and closer.

Wearing glasses in a thundershower is the worst. I made my way through the overgrown trails but my visibility was terrible. I kept hoping the storm would pass by the time we topped out on the Pinto Divide. I wasn't looking forward to being so exposed up there. Luckily, it calmed down just as we were starting that climb.

The storm settled and we got a nice lightning show in the distance. It sprinkled again once or twice but no big deal and we had to wade through a couple creeks that hadn't been running that morning. We eventually made it back to the trailhead after a couple miles with our headlamps on. It was one heck of a hike.

I broke one of my rules, though. I never hike trails for the first time in shorts. I paid the price and my legs are absolutely shredded from this one.
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 Far NE Phoenix,
West Pinto-Campaign-FireLine-Reavis Loop, AZ 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,762
Hiking22.93 Miles 5,440 AEG
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Joe's turn to pick, so where's the most logical place to go to hike in July. Let's go to the Supe's.

FR172A to the Rogers TH, is about as rough as I've seen it in awhile. I wouldn't take a passenger car, HC recommended

Started at 6:55a in the low 70's and finished at 8:20p at 79f. In between, it got a little warm. We made use of shade where it was available, and thank god for the breeze that blew most of the day.

Started the day off right a half mile in. 10 yards away from the trail, what appeared to be a large jack rabbit at first glance, was the tiniest of fawns bounding away 50 yds and stopping.

This part of the West Pinto #212 was new to me and with this section I have been on the entire length. Pretty views, the trail is in good shape for the most part. We took a side trip to the Silver Spur Cabin. At this point it appears to be more like an old Hobo camp.

We took a little break at the West Pinto / Campaign junction, to rest for the biggest climb of the day (2.8 miles / 1800AEG). That climb on Campaign #256 seemed to take forever. We took an extended lunch under the tall pines at the Campaign #256 / Fireline junction #118.

Next the 1 mile 800' AEG climb up Fireline #118. Coming from the East, this trail has a lot to offer, especially to the Circlestone turn off. At Reavis Creek, we filtered some much needed water.

Reavis #109 South was a breeze w/ cooler weather. I love going through the grassy areas.
The Reavis #109 could actually use a good trimming up top.

We got warned by a juvenile Buzzworm on the climb up to the car.

Fauna spotted, 1 Roadrunner on the way in, the Fawn, a buck in velvet, Giant Centipede, Baby buzzworm.
Bear Scat everywhere on this loop. One of these days, maybe a sighting in the supes for me.

Encountered scattered Poison Ivy along the way, but not itching yet.
Brought 5 quarts, filtered and drank a total of 7
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dry Lower Campaign Spring Dry Dry
Didn't go into the creek bed, but nothing was obvious from the trail

dry Oak Flat Spring Dry Dry
Nothing obvious

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Reavis Creek at Fireline #118 Light flow Light flow
Wonderful 64 degree filterable water


water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Rogers Spring Dripping Dripping
The trough no longer works and we did not go to the source, but a leaky pipe along the way showed that water was available if you looked for it.

dry Spencer Spring Creek Dry Dry
Nothing obvious
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Reavis/Campaign Loop, AZ 
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Day 1:

Well this turned out to be a very memorable trip for the whole group I'm sure. Our 11 person expedition (had 8 people from ABC) started off at Roger's Trough TH at 8:45 Saturday after an hour on one of the most interesting 4x4 roads I've seen yet out here. The hike up to Reavis Saddle through Roger's and Grave Canyons was rather strenuous but very scenic and well cut, some interesting Supes scenery.

Then after Reavis Saddle you are suddenly in the totally different little micro-climate of Reavis Valley. You are thrust into a ponderosa forest not unlike those in Rim country and around Flagstaff. This part of the hike just totally amazed me as we sped though the muddy trail over creeks, through thick canopies of pine and in tall meadows. You would never think this is sitting right in the rugged, scrubby mountains of the Supes. All the way through the valley we ran into sections of the 18 scout troop that Spinax was with. Was nice to finally run into another HAZ member on the trail by total chance. Just before hitting the Fireline trail we ran into Topo and the Trans-Supes group. What a trooper Topo must have been to survive the catclaw nightmare that they described on Two-Bar Ridge. From there we went out to Reavis Ranch to eat a nice lunch. Made good time getting there by 1:45.

From here we went back and started up the generous climb up to the ridge north of Mound Mountain (tallest spot in the Supes) and from here hitched the quite steep climb up the Circlestone ruins. The views up there were amazing as we could see everthing from Four Peaks and up the Mazatzals to the Rim, to the copper mines near Globe, to Mt. Lemmon and the Rincons just north of Tucson. Quickly we made our way back down to the Fireline and then down to the intersection with the Campaign Trail to setup camp after completing 10.7 miles that day.

After getting our shelter, tents and hammocks pitched and gathering firewood, we all sat down to a roaring fire to make our dinners and get to know one another. After having some wine and watermelontini (not sure why it was called this since it used rum) we packed in for the night.

The camp site Te-wa picked was wonderful as we had absolutely no wind that night thanks to the tree cover. We had intermittent 5 minute sprinkles throughout the night, but that was the only rain we saw that night. Ended up only getting down to about 35 by early morning so we all slept toasty warm as we were preparing for much worse.

Day 2:

After eating a nice hearty breakfast and packing up camp we took off a bit late at 10 heading Southwest down the campaign trail over Pinto Pass. Unfortunately it started raining steadily just 5 minutes after we started the trail and didn't completely stop the whole day. The trail was so severely overgrown with manzanita that by the time we got a bit past Pinto pass even the people with rain repellent gear were completely soaked. It was probably no more than 40 degrees at this point so we just trucked it over the ridgeline that stretched down to West Pinto Trail just to keep from getting cold while "swimming" down the trail. One thing I will say is pretty much no pack cover system seems to work to well through severe bushwacking.

From here we followed the hillsides leading next to Spencer Spring Creek along the West Pinto Trail. We hit some very heavy catclaw patches all along some of the lower sections of this trail further wreaking havoc on our cold bodies and slowing us down. Then came the "lovely" climb up the base of Iron Mountain. Once again we ran into very heavy manzanita that would completely cover the trail in some spots making a trail finding nightmare on top of the wet cold. Drewboy's GPS definitely came in handy in a few spots. Getting closer to Iron Mountain we then had begin an almost straight ascent up 4 false summits that were part of the foothills of the beast each time hoping we would see the saddle from which we could see the trailhead. This section was like a head on Squaw Peak with muddy gravel.

Finally getting up near the cliffy peak of Iron, we skirt it and to our chagrin begin descending again. Grumbling about how we could have skipped 1000 foot of climb and a good mile and a half of trail if only the trailblazer had just gone down into a valley much earlier, we trudged on. By this point I was really having a hard time keeping my core warm. Then came the sludgy climb up to the final saddle. By the end of this section I was having to constantly eat lots of carbs just to stay alive. It was a mixed blessing that my legs were so numb I couldn't feel the fatigue going up this but I knew it allowed me to get up without stopping as I knew that would have meant certain onset of hypothermia. I was already starting to get woozy the last 2 miles up. Going down the last mile to the trailhead I had to give up my hiking poles to the person sticking with me just to keep my arms around my torso as I shivered my way down to the trucks after 10.5 miles of absolute hell nearly frozen over.

At the trailhead I apologized as I stripped down naked to get the nearly frozen, fully saturated clothes off that had nearly killed me. Thankfully my thermals were still dry and I quickly threw them on and got into Te-was Montero that was already warm but incredibly muggy from all the soaked gear in the back. I swore I was going to have them take me to the hospital till I had a Gatorade that replinished me suprisingly well. Soon I had regained my full composure and was thanking God for getting us out of that nightmare alive and well. Funny that I went from one of my favorite hikes the first day, to easily the most miserable near-death experience of my life. We learned the hard way that we need better rain gear today for sure but thankfully we had a hearty group of hikers that were able to endure twice as much as I'd imagine most people could endure. I personally don't know how I was able to make it but have certainly come out stronger because of this adventure.
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Nov 06 2007
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CirclestoneGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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Day 1:
Wake up early to get to the shuttle. As I pick up my pack, I notice that it is soaking wet...I find out I didn't properly seal my water bladder the night before. With no time to do much about it, I quickly shake it out, reseal the bladder, and towel off the outside of the pack and the puddle. In my haste, I didn't even think to refill the 1.5 liters or so that had drained out.

Met everyone at Miles Trailhead. We head out west on the West Pinto Creek Trail on a cool morning. The hiking is pretty easy, most of it is shaded and in the creek bed. Piece of cake.

At Oak Flat we head north and begin the long climb up the Campaign Trail to get to the Campaign Divide. It looks like the trail has been worked on recently near Oak Flat. There's new trail signs and the trail has been cleared wide...for about the first mile. After that, the trail gradually disintegrates and turns into an all out bushwhack as you approach the divide. Bring your kevlar hiking gear. This was a substantial climb, luckily it wasn't too hot.

We take the rest of Campaign downhill in Campaign Creek until we get to the pines at the Fire Line Intersection. You lose both half of the elevation you gained going up to the divide, and a pint of blood to this other half of the Campaign.

Fireline goes west, up and over Mound Mountain. What better way to get to Reavis Ranch than to climb over the tallest mountain in the Supes with a backpack... Actually, I really liked the Fireline trail. Nearly the entire trail is in the shade and the views are pretty darn good. It is also clear of thorns.

Up at the top, I took a side trip to see Circlestone. It was rather interesting, though it should be cleared of the trees so you could really get a feel for the place and the commanding lookout it has. I also took a look at Mound Mountain. It looked like about a 300 foot climb, but it was both very steep and heavily choked with vegetation. Running low on time and motivation, I passed up the summit. I'll file Mound Mountain peak in my "to do when you are absolutely out of other things to do" file.

Down Fireline to Reavis Ranch, ending with finding water at Reavis Creek. Filtering water that night, I spooked a skunk, or the skunk spooked me. Luckily he was not an angry fellow and the scene played out without any mishaps.

At night, I was finally able to dry out my soaked gear over the fire.

I consumed about 4.5 liters of water, temps ranged mid 40s to upper 70s, or at least that's what it felt like.

Day 1 Water report:
No water sighted on West Pinto Creek to Oak Flat
No water sighted on Campaign Trail to Divide
No water sighted on Campain Trail Divid to intersection with Fireline
No water sighted on Fireline Trail
Water at Reavis Ranch-The creek at Reavis Ranch is flowing...slowly.
(Other hikers indicated they were searching for water at "unmapped springs" near Oak Flat, no idea if they were successful)


Day 2:
Wake up at Reavis. Meant to start out at 8, actually got moving at 9. Headed south on Reavis Trail. This is one beautiful section of trail. Good views, no catclaw, good shade for awhile, what more could you ask for. Eventually, you begin a steep descent down Grave Canyon to get to Rogers. After the last switchback, look for a cairn on the west right as you have gone 50 feet in the creekbed for Reavis Grave.

At the bottom, we continue down Rogers Canyon. There's a little catclaw here and there, but nothing unmanageable. I scoped out the creek for water hiding under boulders and rocks, finding none. I checked out the ruins again, but had to continue on soon enough. The last eighth of a mile to Angel Basin goes through a catclaw forest, so now is a good time to don the kevlar full body armor.

We head south from Angel Basin. You may have a difficult time locating the continuance of Roger's Canyon through here. This is called foreshadowing. The fact that you can't find the trail means that...yep, it's rarely travelled and never maintained. Experienced Supes hikers know that this means one thing: bushwhacking through thorny hell. The portion of Rogers Canyon that climbs up to JF is the worst official trail I have seen in the Supes. The catclaw, shrub oak, and occasional prickley peak are ridiculous. Its not until you hit the switchbacks near the top of Tortilla Pass that it begins to relent. The record-breaking heat wasn't helping either. So fit your gas powered hedgeclippers and self-contained air-conditioner in that ultralightweight pack of yours :)

At JF, we continue on south and the trail is marginally better. When I hit the Randolph Canyon intersection, I find about half of our group. Apparently they decided to wait for most in the group to catch up. Worried that people wouldn't be able to make it to Dripping Springs, especially since some opted to take Frog Tanks instead, they have been waiting. Some had cached gear in Stiller's car at Woodbury, but with no car keys, couldn't retrieve it yet.

Waiting there, eventually Wally arrives with the keys. Looking at our watches, we decide there is no way the remaining members could make it to Dripping Springs before dark, so we leave a note and head to Woodbury to camp.

I looked around at the windmill and cows at the Woodbury Ranch site and continued on. Since Stiller had extra water in his car, even the people who hadn't cached water could partially refill, so it worked out for everyone.

I consumed about 6 liters of water. Temps ranged from the lower 40s to upper 80s, or at least that's what it felt like. At night, there was a localized hurricane apparently headed right over Woodbury as there were 30-40 mph winds from 6PM to 7AM the next morning.

Day 2 water report:
Water at Reavis Ranch, no water on Reavis Trail once you leave the creek that runs along the first mile of the trail.
No water in Grave Canyon
No water in Rogers Canyon
No water in Angel Basin
No water on western Branch of Rogers Trail
No Water on lower JF Trail south of Rogers Trail
No water at woodbury ranch
Water found in Stiller's car.
(Other hikers report finding water in Fish Creek off of Frog Tanks)

Day 3:
Pack up your gear or watch it fly away in the wind. It never got cold but the wind prevented anyone from sleeping well, especially those in tents. Started out hiking the road to JF Ranch. Passed the ranch and went onto the Coffee Flat Trail. Pretty easy stuff, just stay in the creekbed.

We found water along Coffee Flat Trail, so everyone was able to top off. This relegated the trip to Reeds Water as unnecessary. We keep going until we get to Dripping Springs. Don't count on Dripping Springs for refilling your water. Some people ate breakfast, but I continued on Red Tanks.

Heading north, you bake in the sun on a day for record heat in November. Oh, and there is abundant catclaw as well. The climb is pretty steady once you climb out of the creekbed, until you finally top out at the Red Tanks Divide. I had to rest in the shade of a boulder for 20 minutes to cool down as I felt the oncoming signs of heat exhaustion. (I was thinking I was talking to people who weren't on the hike, when I realized that, I knew it was time to take a break.)

A short time later, I summit over the divide and head down through catclaw hell to get down to the creekbed. Holy Criminey, those thorns are sharp. I swear they have purposely routed that trail through the worst sections of the catclaw just to screw with you. Do many people do this trail? Not by the looks of it.

When I finally drop into the upper labarge creek area, I had to wander around for about 30 minutes to find where the hell you are supposed to go. It's hot out and there are creeks and side trails everywhere. I eventually back track to where I began and start following the creek beds. By the third one I saw a cairn and followed it to the signs at the intersection of Hoolie and Red Tanks.

You begin the steep climb up into Upper Labarge Box. I catch up briefly to some of the people ahead of me, but then take a break and am on my own again. Upper Labarge Box is pretty interesting, but the trail is precarious along the upper portion of the northern cliffs. I pass up climbing to Herman's cave, which I have done before and wouldn't recommend, and continue on down the canyon.

Finding the intersection with Whiskey, it is a fairly level walk along Red Tanks. This portion is definitely in worse shape then when I hiked it last year. There is more catclaw and there are several camping areas with side trails going every which way that have obscured where the hell the true trail is supposed to continue.

Eventually I make it to LaBarge Spring, where we decided to camp for the night, versus continuing on to Charlesbois.

I consumed about 6.5 liters of water. Temps ranged from the lower 50s to the low 90s, or at least that's what it felt like. I slept like a baby that night.

Day 3 water report:
Water found on Coffee Flat Trail.
Dripping Springs was Dripping, but not really useful.
Stagnant water found in Randolph Canyon intersection with Red Tanks.
No water seen in upper Red Tanks to Upper Labarge Box.
No water seen in Upper Labarge Box. (Some hikers reported seeing a pool somewhere, I might have missed it, it may not be accessible.)
No water sighted along Red Tanks from Whiskey Spring to Dutchman.
LaBarge Spring was flowing at about a liter a minute.

Day 4:
Wake up and find people ready to head out. We march on the Dutchman. I found the Peralta master Map, but I zoned out and didn't really scope out Charlesbois, Needle Canyon, Marsh Valley, or Hidden Valley like I had wanted to. It got gradually hotter and hotter, but I finished before it go too hot. Then, waited at the trailhead for everyone else to finish.

I consumed about 4 liters of water. Temps ranged from the mid 40s to the mid 90s, or at least that's what it felt like. I finished before it got quite that hot though.

Day 4 Water report:
No water sighted along Dutchman.
(Other hikers reported that Charlesbois is flowing, but the trough is nearly empty.)

It was great hiking with all of you. This was a great trip, even though the weather in November didn't cooperate with our plans. I had almost all of these trails on my wish lists and can't believe we did them all in 3 and a half days.
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Nov 03 2007
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 Gold Canyon, AZ
West Pinto - Campaign to DivideGlobe, AZ
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We followed Fritzki's writeup and directions with the intent of only going as far as the junction with the Campaign trail. The road in from highway 60 is about the same as the road to Four Peaks. Once you get past the mining operations the road narrows with many drop offs. Just take it slow and all is OK. The problem is that the Miles trailhead is a bit over 12 miles from the highway and for several miles (due to erosion ditches) your speed will be 20 or less.

Anyway we arrived at Miles Trailhead only to find about 16 people already there getting ready for their "cross Superstition" marathon for 4 days which is described in the forum section. We greeted several of the HAZ people and we identified ourselves from our HAZ handles. One guy said that my photos on HAZ did not look like me and I told him that I had shaved for the event.

Norm, Dave and I then started up West Pinto Creek. The old Kennedy ranch still has several buildings and corrals and pens and foundation remains-all very interesting to explore. The trail to the old corral across from the Campaign trail trailhead is 2.75 miles so the RT is 5.5 miles. Of course the marathon people went on up the Campaign trail to get to Reavis Ranch to camp that night. The trail parallels the Pinto Creek bed (no water when we were there) and it quite well defined except you have to watch for carins. We found ourselves going up parts of the creek bed in places but found that the actual trail was on one side or the other close to the creek bed. So, if you stray from the trail you can go either left or right and quickly find it.

Of course the difference between the Western Superstitions and the Eastern Superstitions is very pronounced. The eastern country is generally higher and therefore has more vegetation. The foliage is very thick and lush-even with the lack of water we have had this year. There are also a number of spectacular rock cliffs along the creek bed.

Then you arrive at the Cuff Button trailhead and a little farther the Campaign trailhead. Surprise! Look across the creek bed and you see an old corral, complete with gate and all of it seems to be the vertical stick construction. If actually looks in good shape—way out there!!! The area is called Oak Flat and there are lots of open spaces for grazing. We lunched there at a very neat fire ring and then wandered back to the Miles Ranch trailhead.

Due to the long drive 12 miles past Superior and then 12 plus miles to the trailhead the hike really took most of a day. There are many, many criss crossing trail in the area for all ability levels. The one we took is basically fairly easy. Check the map of the area to see Bull Basin Loop, Haunted Canyon, and others.

Once thing bothered us a great deal. The news is that the copper mines have really started to produce again due to the price of copper and many areas near the old mines are destined to be dug out for copper. One area would destroy Tony's Cabin and some of the Haunted Canyon area. It would be a shame. Anyway, the RT hike up the creek bed was nice and fun with very nice 65 degree temps. The only drawback is getting there.
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Nov 02 2007
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CirclestoneGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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I did 2/3s of the Trans Supes hike in two parts, beginning at Miles TH to Reavis Ranch then on to Woodbury TH. I agree with the many other posts that the days were hot and the trails grown over with brush and catclaw. The company was great and that's what should keep everyone coming back and completing these hikes. There's something about a campfire that brings people from different stages in life together for a night and recharges you for the next day. The challenges make the trip worth it.
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Nov 02 2007
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West Pinto - Campaign to DivideGlobe, AZ
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The perfect choice for a hike today-the elevation gave way to very comfortable temps. I was taken by surprise by all the HAZ people we met not only at the Miles Trailhead but at Haunted Canyon as well.....looks to be a perfect weekend and I'm thinking of them out there, and look forward to their trip reports.
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Dec 27 2006
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Cuff Button Trail #276Globe, AZ
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Start fm Miles TH end at 9:30am: hiked 2.25 miles West on W. Pinto Tr#212 to intersection of Cuff Button Tr#276, then hiked approx 4 miles in/up #276 (this trail is ~8 miles one way, ending at FR305), then a short lunch and turn-around at 2pm for the hike out and back to the Miles TH; End hike at 5:15pm;

12/27/06 Hike Notes: This hike was on the "official" Cuff Button Tr#276; Required: long pants/ long sleeve shirt, gloves(for trail overgrowth and kats claw); some areas of my 4 mile hike in on this trail were difficult to find the trail route, some steep and loose rocky ups and downs; cairns helped along the way and I built some additional cairns too for the next hiker; nice scenic views at high points, trail raps a lot around washes and gullies with lots of ups and downs to get back in this 4 miles, some dry creek crossings and a number of dry springs along the way and some old corrals and ranching history to see; nice variety of foliage along this hike; This hike is very remote hiking on this Cuff Button Tr #276; In the Spring'07 I plan to take my Jeep up to the North end of this Tr#276 (the end of FR305), and hike in the additional 3-3.5 miles to where I turned around on my 12/27/06 hike..and.. IF have enough time, will drive up 4x4 road FR306 to Musk Hog Springs to check-out the NE end START of the OLD decommissioned Pinto Peak Trail#213;

Happy New Year-2007!!
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The Miles Ranch area was restored by the Globe Ranger District back in 1995. They unfortunately razed the ranch house and stone cabin, but did leave the barn standing. The meadow was farmed for years and was completely eroded with local weeds and 30-40% bare ground. Due to the restriction against motorized vehicles within the WA, they used a team of mules and antique plows to complete the five day restoration project. Although it is believed the pasture originally contained a cover of Emory oak and Cypress trees, which must have been spectacular, it was deemed impractical to attempt a replanting due to conditions. Instead they reseeded the field with native grasses, and some of the FS protective barriers are still lying about.
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