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Mar 08 2023
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Haunted Canyon #203Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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Did a quick mid-week overnighter to Haunted Canyon. I went a year or two ago in the fall (after leaves had dropped, though) and thought it was "okay" and wanted to give it another go to see if I wasn't feeling it because of the trail or maybe I just wasn't into hiking that day. Definitely enjoyed it more this time! I knew there was going to be a lot of water as the first crossing of Pinto, which was about an inch or two wide last time, was 20 feet wide and knee deep this time. No fighting poison ivy this time and you really can't keep your feet dry at the numerous creek crossings now. Had a great campsite and great night before hiking out the next day after a lazy morning. The creek rushing through a chute and down a two foot fall made for great white noise. Even the road in/out was in better condition than last time. Wasn't BAD before but washboardy in places and this time, nice and smooth the entire way pretty much. I did get hung up for about 15 minutes on the way out where they had the road closed while waiting for some loaders to go by but that's what I get for going on a weekday I guess.
 
Feb 24 2023
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Peralta/Dutchman/Whiskey loop, AZ 
Peralta/Dutchman/Whiskey loop, AZ
 
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I went out for a casual 3 night backpack out in the Supes this past weekend hoping to see some snow, and boy did I. Started at Peralta late on Friday and headed to Whiskey Spring for the night. As expected, there was water flowing absolutely everywhere. What surprised me, though, is how much water was draining from up on Miner's needle. That's such a high point, without a recent rain I didn't expect it but I guess that's just how saturated everything is right now.
The next day, I headed north on Whiskey and over on Red Tank. I had read that there had been recent maintenance on these and I was hoping that wasn't a lie. Sure enough, I don't think I got a single scratch; both are in solid condition right now. There are a couple spots on Red Tank when you cross the drainage/creek (running the whole way and quite wide in some spots) where it can be tricky to find the other side, but nothing crazy. Very happy to see the trail in this condition, though, after the last couple years! I took a short jaunt up Trap canyon as I haven't been there before, before continuing on to my final destination on Cavalry. The weather there was bright and sunny at 72 degrees and I had a nice sandy beach to soak my feet in and enjoy the wide views.
The next morning around 4 or so, the rain started and the temperature had dropped down to 34 according to my thermodrop. As the sun came out, I could see ice forming on my tent walls and below the vestibules, some slight snow. Opening the tent door and I was greeted by snow on Malapais and and Black Mountains, along with Weavers. What a site! The rain mostly stopped around 10 or so but I goofed off in my tent a bit longer. I was going to meet up with a buddy doing a quick overnight at Pinon camp on Peralta which was only 6.5 miles or so away, so there was no rush. Once I left, I went back up to Dutchman to head over to Peralta. I've normally just thought this stretch was "okay" but man oh man, with all this water and snow run off (it melted pretty quick), it was amazing with waterfalls and, in one section, a bit of a water fountain almost where the water is forced through a small opening. Very nice. The climb up Peralta in the back side is nice and gentle and, again, streams every 10 feet. Often right on the trail but easy enough to keep your feet dry.
Buddy had brought out a couple adult beverages and brats, so that was quite the nice treat for the night by the campfire, which also helped with the cold as it was just above freezing when I called it a night (overnight got to 26 apparently). We packed up early the next morning for a quick exit. It was a little slower going as there was still Ice in some places, particularly on the backend where we were, but also on the South side in some areas as well, but was a pleasant descent nonetheless.

Great to get out to the Supes with this much water and camping in a couple of new places for me. The snow was just the icing on the cake.
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Jan 27 2023
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Arnett Creek - CanyonGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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I was looking for something a little different (at least for me) for a two night backpacking trip close to home. I wanted to be able to hike but wanted it to be mostly flat. After doing some looking around and realizing I haven't done much at Picketpost other than climbing it and doing the AZT section there, I decided to head out there and go down Arnett Canyon and just play it by ear. It'd be a short first day due to commitments and I didn't get to the trailhead until 2 or so. I started my journey and was thrilled to see that Arnett creek was flowing well right from the get go. This is a pretty area, but it's not the best season for it really, but I still enjoyed the scenery and a few random things that are (presumably) transplants via birds/wind from the Arboretum just on the other side. With the plesantness of the hiking, I was surprised to not run into many established camping areas; I think I saw one small one inbetween the start and the Telegraph Canyon junction, where I turned south. Encountered more horse traffic than hikers, funny enough, though. I eventually ran into a very cool little spot with a fire ring (and even a good amount of processed wood) about 3.5 miles in total, about a half mile from the Telegraph junction, right before you exit the "greener" area. Set up camp, made a fire, cooked a steak (bonus: some metal grate was near the camp site and that made for a fantastic grill), went to sleep. My thermodrop said it got down to 26 that night, so a bit nippy!

The next morning, I figured I'd just hid down Telegraph, with a sort of goal of maybe camping where the AZT crosses Telegraph Canyon RD; I've done that AZT section a couple of times and there's a nice camp site there. I set out a bit later in the morning than anticipated (it was cold), and made my way to Rock Tank as I had seen a couple of pictures that made it seem more interesting than the standard AZ tanks. On the way there, I got passed by a large group of side by sides and, sure enough, they were at the tank when I got there blasting music and hanging out. It's public land, so I'll never be too upset when other people are enjoing it, but it was a little bit of a bummer because Rock Tank IS actually a cool area and was overflowing, creating some cool cascading waterfalls but I didn't feel like hanging out as it wasn't my current vibe. Interesting, the whole thing seems fenced off so livestock can't get to it? Which... doesn't make sense for a tank? Anyone have more info on that? Either way, I enjoyed filtering my water to some music they were playing (mildly disappointed no one offered me a cold beer, if I'm being honest) and went on my way.

I spent the next bit hiking South, mainly staying in the creek bed versus the road (which had some traffic, but not a lot really. Think I saw 4 groups total driving?), checking out some interesting rocks here and there, and ended the day at the AZT junction where I camped, made some calzones out of naan/sauce/cheese/bacon, and enjoyed a dumb movie. The sky was absolutely beautiful this night, too; extremely clear and the stars somehow seemed brighter than usual.

The last day, I forced myself to leave (it was cold again) and simply hiked the AZT back to Picketpost. It's a nice stretch of trail but I've done it a couple of times and wanted to make it out for an early lunch and to get back home to the family. The burgers at Porters Saloon are quite nice and I hiked quickly to get there (recommend the Superior burger; comes with roasted pepper and it's not just diced green chilis, but is a whole chunk). Had my fill and drove on home. Good trip, easy miles, flowing water, which was just what I needed.
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Jan 06 2023
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Skull Mesa - Cottonwood Creek LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Work is still slow with people getting back from the holidays so decided for a quick overnight to Cottonwood spring as recon for a longer trip I have planned soon. Cave Creek has some nice flow but I was a little disappointed to see Cottonwood creek dry; I thought that'd be flowing after the recent weather but I guess not. It was also dry near my campsite for the night.

Trail is in good shape albeit it pretty torn up from horses in the mud. I'll say, though, that it was more difficult than it looked on paper; an extra mile and a fair bit more elevation than I calculated. It's always a little harder on the gritty, sandy dirt like this trail is; lot slower going down those. I also laughed at the forest service sign that said cotton wood spring was two miles away when I clocked it at more like 3.5. Those signs are usually not super accurate but usually a lot more than that!

Any rate, made it to the corral south of the spring for my camp site and the sky was doing a lot of pretty things, so that was nice. Had a pleasant evening and just returned on the same route this morning.
 
Dec 09 2022
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Dutchman Trail #104Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Set out mid-day Friday for a planned two-night trip into the superstitions; I always enjoy going after a decent rain even like we got earlier in the week. I didn't really have much of a plan as I've been recovering from some sickness crud and didn't know how that would affect things, so I just set off from First Water and headed out on Dutchman. The weather was fantastic and there were pools of water here and there but even with the easy trail, I could tell I wasn't really recovered. I had thought I might head over to Charleboi or up Marsh Valley but I decided to keep it short instead so, instead of climbing up Bull Pass, I took Dutchman down south. I think I've only done this little one mile stretch or so once before and I forgot how pretty it is, especially since the creek was flowing. It's a bit grassy but very few pokey things, which I took care of since I had my saw anyway and time on my hands. I made camp at about the halfway point and managed to find enough dead mesquite around to have a fire for the night which was pleasant. Eventually went off to bed but the full moon was shining in my tent all night trying to rob me of that sleep. I woke up and decided to not do another night and just hiked back out on Black Mesa/Second Water. I was surprised to actually see some good water on Black Mesa, as well, in a field of Cat Tails, which was pleasant as I normally am not a big fan of this trail. Ultimately made it back to the car with an uneventful but pleasant hike; can't beat the weather for it.

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Somewhere between light and medium flow the whole way through this little stretch of canyon

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Some large pools in the area

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Some large pools nearby
 
Dec 03 2022
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Cave Creek TH to Spur Cross TH ShuttlePhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking12.50 Miles 1,700 AEG
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Quick overnight trip; I wanted to do a little recon for a larger trip I have planned that included checking out the water situation since I've only been up to this one once before. I started in the seven springs area and hiked in around 5 miles before turning back and camping around the Big Maggie May area. Cave Creek is running nicely and it was a pretty great camp site for my hammock. Was hoping there would still be a little color left but all the leaves have dropped so no luck on that front.
Question: Cave Creek is running nicely here. I don't have much experience with this creek but I see the USGS gauge near Spur Cross shows it at two feet. Can I expect it to have water in the creek bed from here to there?

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Oct 21 2022
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Tour de Forest Lakes, AZ 
Tour de Forest Lakes, AZ
 
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Hiking21.00 Miles
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15 LBS Pack
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Day 1:
Aspen/General Crook/208
I started from Carr Lake TH and took Aspen/General Crook/FR208 to head over to Bear Lake. It was a pleasant and easy hike although I was slightly disappointed that a trail called Aspen trail didn't really have many Aspens. I made it to Bear Lake early and hung out watching people fishing and just generally enjoying the nice weather and some foliage before heading out and camping nearby.

Day 2:
208/General Crook/Aspen/Carr Lake/Woods Canyon
My goal today was to make my way over to the dainage southeast of Woods Canyon lake (outside the border of the recreation area) where I was meeting up with a buddy. This involved some backtracking from the previous day but the weather was quite nice and the hiking quite easy. Most of the trails that Carr Lake system are really just abandoned forest roads. Again, disappointed that there were maybe two Aspens on all of Aspen. They were quite pretty when I saw them though. Eventually I made it to Woods Canyon and took the northern path around the lake. I've avoided this in the past (if you've read previously triplogs, you'll understand I'm not much of a people person) but it was relatively free of them today and really is quite a scenic area; made me realize I really should've brought my fishing pole. Eventually made camp and enjoyed the perks of backpacking near a store: I roasted the hot dogs I bought there and washed it down with a nice cold adult beverage before the rain came in. It started raining at some point, and I retreated into my hammock where I quickly fell asleep to the sound of it hitting my tarp, which it would keep doing all night.

Day 3:
My buddy had parked much closer than Carr Lake TH where my car was which was fantastic as the morning was 40 degrees and wet wet wet. I had forgotten to bring my gloves with me so as I was tearing everything down and packing it (which really meant just stuffing it haphazardly in my bag) my hands were freezing. We packed up quickly, though, and a short jaunt later were at his car for a lift back to mine. The drive back down was nice and foggy, which I always enjoy. Stopped by Common Grounds in Payson for a hot cuppa before heading home, ending a great little trip.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Isolated
The Aspens I saw were a pretty yellow but most everything else was brown/had dropped at this point
 
Oct 17 2022
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Hackberry Spring LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Wanted to test out a new hammock/underquilt combo and see how the creeks were after the big storm a couple of days ago, so a quick backpack to Hackberry was in order. The weather was perfect and First Water was flowing, albeit much less than I thought it would. It's quickly dropping, though; was maybe 8-10 inches deep yesterday where it flows by the spring and about half that this morning.


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Slowest drip I've seen coming out the pipe and the pool that sits in "cave" was only an inch deep or so and pretty scummy. Would work if needed but First Water is currently flowing and will likely have pools for a bit
 
Sep 02 2022
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Greenhouse Trail #248Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Hiking14.00 Miles 4,790 AEG
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Day 1 - Climbs, thorns, snakes, bears, oh my

My first day actually started on Mt Lemmon, about 5 miles away from the Marshall Gulch trailhead. I woke up early, hiked out, and made the drive over to the Chiricahuas. As I turned on to Noland Road from the interstate and approached the Chiricahuas, I knew that this was going to be a special place. It was a beautiful day and the road was in great condition. As I got close to Portal, Cave Creek crosses the road and was flowing nicely which gave me comfort that the various creeks would be running. My original plan was to start at Herb Martyr Campground and hike up Greenhouse Road to Greenhouse Trail and, ultimately, end the night at the cabin near Cima Park. I had gotten a later start than anticipated, though, so wanted to see if I could drive up Greenhouse Road a bit to knock off a mile or more and at least 500 feet of the elevation gain on the first day, as it was a big climb. For the most part, Greenhouse Rd is in good condition and could be made by any SUV. It's tight in some sections and there's a chance you might get some pin stripes, but it's in good condition until about a mile in. I also saw a small bear in one of the clearings, but he didn't try to get in my way. Smart bear. At that point, the road crosses Greenhouse Creek and it gets a bit bouldery. I didn't have much an issue with my lifted outback but I did have to reposition some rocks in a couple of spots and had some tire spinning. Fearing it would get worse, when I saw an area that looked ok to park for a few days right at the creek crossing, I figured that was good enough and I'd start the hike from there. Turns out the rest of the road after crossing the creek to the actual TH is like the first part and just fine for any SUV probably, so the only part of that road I would say really needs clearance or AWD/4WD is that section that is about 1000 feet long.

It was about a half mile to the trailhead and while it was just a half mile of forest road, it was interesting: two groups of deer spotted, old bear scat mixed with still steaming bear scat, one snake (signs of what's to come). Once to the actual trail, I could see that this was going to be an interesting climb. As I started what would ultimately be 2700 feet of gain, I could sort of kind of see the trail but I mostly saw vegetation. It was thick, but mostly soft grass so not the worst thing in the world. Then I saw another rattler. Well, to be fair, I never actually saw this one, I could just hear it right off trail. After backing off and giving it a few minutes to see if it would move... it didn't. So, I climbed up the hill to the right a bit in waist high grass hoping I wouldn't find a friend of his and let him have the trail. As I made it to the wilderness boundary and the approximate 15 million switchbacks, the vegetation only got thicker and there was little sign of trail in most spots. If anyone wants to frame me for murder, I left about 5 gallons of blood there so I'm sure you can figure out something. I would not recommend this trail in shorts and this is coming from a guy who only hikes in shorts, overgrown trails and all: this felt like nearly an off trail excursion in a lot of areas.

Eventually, I made it to the Winn Falls viewpoint which was flowing quite nicely and I could hear loudly even from that distance. Loud enough that I almost stepped on yet another black rattlesnake because I couldn't hear it's rattle. Noped out of there real quick and got back on "trail", anxious to get the last bit of climbing out of the way. Eventually the trail meets up with Cima creek and what bit of trail you have disappears almost entirely to brush and deadfall. This next mile to the cabin took almost an hour as I figured out the best path but was an enjoyable hour if nothing else. Cima Creek was flowing beautifully and there are tons of little slick rock waterfalls and fun little chutes that it flows through to keep things interesting. I made it to the cabin around 7:30 or so, set up my tent, and started a small fire to relax by for a little bit before bed. The forest service has carved a couple of big logs as benches which left a ton of good firewood making it easy on me.


Day 2 - Fog, snakes, snakes, snakes, aspens

I woke up early to the pitter patter of rain and looked outside to see the entire area covered in fog and some fierce winds. What I thought was rain was actually moisture collecting on the trees above me and then being blown off by the wind. This made for some great horror movie vibes but did get me thinking about my plan a bit. Originally, I had planned on hiking north on the crest trail this day and making a 10 mile loop, ending back in the same spot or maybe another mile or two south. After checking the weather report again, it looked like things were only going to get worse in this area that day and night so I made the decision to hike on down Snowshed to drop some elevation and just play it by ear. I made this decision in the great forest service outhouse by the cabin. Truly fantastic.
The first few miles were brutal with the wind whipping the trees into my face but also beautiful. I dipped down to Anita spring real quick to check it out and then I climbed up Chiricahua peak to be met with... well, nothing. I couldn't see anything more than a few feet in front of me due to the fog. Don't worry though, because there was another black rattlesnake in the trail. Joy. This one gave me fair warning, though, which was nice of him. The wind and fog continued until hitting Aspen saddle where the trail starts to turn East. Of note, there is some good camping at Aspen Saddle that is tucked away in the trees; I took a break behind the treeline to get out of the wind and they did a great job of blocking it. I went south on crest to check out eagle and juniper springs and right at the trail split, it seemed like a light switch was thrown and the fog dissipated and the wind died down to a much more manageable level. The views from here to Herb Martyr are just absolutely insane and I found myself stopping often to take pictures/record/stare. Eagle spring is somewhat sketchy to get to; it seems there's been a lot of erosion and it's a fairly steep path with lots of small rocks. I scooted it on my butt. Juniper was a lot easier to get to and it just off the trail. There are three catchments, all have seen better days, but all had water of one variety of algae or another. I refilled here and while it still had a slight brown color to it, it tasted fine.
Guess what else I saw here? I guess black snakes gotta drink, too, because it was just handing out on the rock where a seep is coming through. We were pretty far from each other, though. I asked how it's family was, it didn't answer which I thought was rude, but whatever.
The next few miles are more just descending, beautiful views, and stopping when you hear a rattlesnake next to you to see where it is and realizing it's 6 inches from your foot on the side of this mountain making you an olympic track star. Sounds monotonous, but this one wasn't black like the rest, so it added a little spice.
Eventually I made it to Herb Martyr trail which was a nice change of pace. Well, the pace was still DOWN but now we're in green trees instead of rocky mountainsides. I was able to move much faster on this section and was making the plan to just pick a spot at the campground potentially for the night. I knew when I was getting close: the scent of hot dogs and burgers could be smelled from a mile out. I eventually made it there around 6. I found a spot right outside of the campground by the creek that had obviously been used for tents before and just pitched mine, which became more interesting than it should have. Halfway through, I feel someone smacking my back. I turned around ready for anything to see... a 12 year old boy. Who was immediately mortified and let out a small, "I thought you were my dad", before running away. No, small child, I don't believe I am. That was the first person i saw since setting out the day before, though. Then I checked out the vault toilet in the campground. Review: 5 star. Think they had cleaned it for labor day as it was spotless, the toilet paper was fresh, and it smelled like lysol.

Day 3: Just a quick 1.5 mile hike out along forest road. Nothing special but still a pleasant area. Found a family car camping right near mine which surprised me but it's a beautiful spot, so I get it. Drove out to the National Monument for some more hiking.

Final Thoughts: This is an absolutely beautiful, phenomenal, amazing, and remote area. It's also extremely rugged, tough, and affected by fire. These factors result in a trail that at times is trying to throw you off the mountain due to erosion and, other times, trying to separate your legs from your body with the vegetation. I also saw more wildlife in this one trip than I have seen on many trips combined including two bears, a scorpion, snake after snake after snake, a couple coatis, 6+ herds of deer, and all sorts of birds I haven't seen before. I would recommend the area and these specific trails to anyone wearing pants in decent physical condition and I will be going back soon.
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Jun 03 2022
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West Fork Oak Creek Trail #108Sedona, AZ
Sedona, AZ
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Was looking to get my feet wet and a buddy hadn't been to West Fork before so we decided to skip work on Friday and head on out. The trip up was easy with no traffic and the parking lot was, surprisingly, maybe half full tops. Once past the rock area people like to hang out at about a mile in, we only saw a few other people before hitting the end of the trail and then saw no one else. The sun was out but inside the canyon and in the water it felt fantastic. We made camp at the same location I did before and had a nice evening just hanging out. For the next morning, I had planned a bit of a treat: I packed in a pan, butter, maple syrup, and pancake mix and whipped those up and that was pretty awesome. On the way out, I located to the camp site I had looked for on a previous trip as well and man! It's something. Made our way out back to the car around 2:30 and it honestly wasn't too crazy busy which surprised me for a Saturday; the parking lot wasn't even full, maybe at 75% capacity. Now, the drive through Sedona, on the other hand, was busy as expected... All in all, a fun quick trip with perfect weather. Not shabby!
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Apr 14 2022
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Rogers Canyon RuinsGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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Hiking8.20 Miles 1,118 AEG
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With the weather creeping down to the 70s again on Thursday and with recent reports that the creek was flowing in Rogers Canyon, I thought it'd be a good idea to get out there and check out Angel's Basin and to scope out the trail condition on Frog Tank for a future trip. The drive to Rogers Trough was surprisingly decent, with the road having recently been graded, and I didn't see a single vehicle on my way in and there was no one else at the TH. Well, no vehicles at least but as I was getting my stuff together, an AZT thru hiker was passing through. I thought I might run into some so I had tossed a few beers/soda/sparkling water into my cooler when heading out just in case I could offer a little trail magic. We chatted briefly while he had a soda and then took a beer to enjoy a little bit later. Good vibes to start the trip!

The first 1.5 miles or so are also part of the AZT and, as expected, is very well maintained. This section has a chaparral/desert transition vibe to it that's nice. While I'm not very educated on species, the wildflowers were really putting on a show, as well, with blues, purples, yellows, whites, pink, and red all making appearances. The section right before where Roger's splits from the AZT is a particularly nice one with large clusters of various species mixing together creating a picturesque landscape.

At the clearly signed junction, I feel like someone is playing a joke. The AZT continues on, broad, brush free, wide tread but my trail of the day was to the left... Through the scrub closing in. As I looked at it, I wondered if it was going to be more of a bushwhack than I had anticipated but as I went through... it opened back up to a decently maintained trail. I almost feel like that one little spot isn't cut back further just to mess with people. Unfortunately, that may have backfired. Maybe 50 feet down the trail, literally in the middle of the trail, were 4 or 5 wads of toilet paper and actual "logs". Did someone think they were off trail somehow? WTF. While I'm all about LNT and pick up other peoples trash all the time, I draw the line at human waste. I used my trekking poles to shove it into bush next to the trail and carried on.

The next mile of the trail, the creek largely spends it's time underground, appearing above here and there as you walk through the wash. As you hike in more, the creek changes, spending most of it's time above ground, rolling over large boulders. Larger trees start to appear and become more common, with the ground changing from the rocky, sandy desert to a soily duff more like the forests up north. The temperature also dropped at least 5 degrees quickly as well, which was much appreciated. For this portion, I spent 50/50 on trail vs off, as the creek bed was a nice walk and the trail was a slightly overgrown.

Once you get to Rogers Canyon Spring, the trail spends a bit less time right in the creek and winds through the trees. The soil underneath makes for an easy hike and the change of scenery is always pleasant. A little over 4 miles into the hike, you're dropped into the creek bed where the cliff dwellings are. I decided to check those out on my way out the next day and continued in the creek bed, noting a fantastic camp site maybe 500 feet West, before turning off to Angel's Basin. I didn't go too far down this way, maybe a half mile or so, as I had gotten a late start and it was past 5 already and the trail wasn't exactly a great trail at this point. It was still easy enough to creek walk, but the trail has definitely seen better days in this section. So, I turned around to camp at the spot near the dwellings which ended up being nice, with a small waterfall (IE, the water dropping approximately 12 inches off a rock) providing some zen white noise.

I got back on trail around 7:30 the next day to check on the dwellings. I got a bit of a shock as there was another couple that came up on me and shouted, "Are you good with dogs?". Friendly couple and dog, just wasn't expecting to see anyone there that early as I didn't see anyone camping when I came in late and they didn't look like they had camped. Between driving up 172/hiking the 4 miles, they must have had an early start to be there that at that time. I checked out the dwellings, trying to imagine living there and thinking through the logistics like water. Tough people.

The hike out was much the same as the day before and gaining the elevation back is gentle outside of one or two spots. Once back on the AZT I ran across 3 NOBOs and, back at my car, ran into another one as I was drinking a post-hike beverage. She took me up on a drink and some conversation and that was that. I ran into a lot more vehicles on the way back down but only one was driving like a jackass, so that's better than usual. I'm not a big fan of backpacking once it gets in the 90s with as much exposure as you get in the Supes so I was happy that I was able to get this trip in before the heat comes and sticks around for the season.
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Apr 10 2022
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I've been wanting to try out fishing while backpacking for a bit now and had picked up a cheapo telescoping pole that only weighs 7 or 8oz for that. Had some time to myself on Sunday night and nothing scheduled for the morning so headed up to WCC and got to the trailhead around 2:30 or so. I was here last Fall/early winter and the road, while not bad then, is better now. Very smooth except for a little washboard action in the half mile or so near the TH.

Hiking in, I saw just a few groups headed back to the trailhead and two ladies soaking in the creek who had decided it was clearly top-optional. Good on them, no complaints here. I didn't hike too far in as this trip was just about relaxing and trying out the fishing thing. I found a good spot that looked promising for fishing and absolutely perfect for my hammock.

Once I got everything set up, went to fishing with a small roostertail and what do you know, got a small mouth on the first cast! Best part is my daughter had asked me to take a video of me fishing so I had set my camera up and got it on video, which she'll love. It was about 7-8inches, so bigger than the 2 inch guy that was my only score when I came out here with a buddy last year (that trip kicked off my interest in the fishing thing). I ended up fishing this spot and a couple of others and ended up getting 6, all about the same size. Tried my luck again for a half hour before packing up but no luck. Fun time all in all and was a beautiful spot with perfect weather.
 
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What do you do when you have no meetings on a Thursday afternoon and nothing until Friday afternoon? Go for a super quick overnight backpack. I recently picked up an Outback Wilderness and wanted to see how it fared on something more than just the smooth forest roads. I saw a post saying 172 to Woodbury wasn't bad right now, so figured I'd do a quick hike out to the Randolph/Fraser intersection. I made it up to the trailhead in good time and was impressed how comfortable the car was even on the crappy parts; my previous trail vehicle was the Ascent with 20 inch wheels and small tires, so it just shook you all day.

I started my hike and it as just a pleasant stroll through the creek bed really. I generally stayed off the trail when it left the creek bed because it's just catclaw heaven right now. Water flow started small about a half mile east of Whetstone and the further in I went, the more there was (but never too much, just...more and constant).
Made it to the intersection and found a couple of trees to toss my hammock up for the night and settled in with a book until bedtime. Right as I'm dozing off, what do I hear? *snort snort huff huff*! I turned on my headlamp and bam, 6 or 7 javelina about 10 feet away from me, just wandering around. These guys didn't care or react to my light at all nor me talking to them even: they gave absolutely zero poos. Eventually they wandered off but I was able to get a cool video that my daughter is really going to love. I've seen them plenty of times around my neighborhood but this was actually the first time I'd seen them in the wild.

This morning, I hiked out mostly the same way I came in but instead of taking Woodbury trail from Coffee Flat, I just hiked up the road from the ranch. That was a bit more of a slog than I anticipated and I had forgotten my hat (along with my trekking poles, too) at home, so it was a bit miserable with the exposure but oh well; shaved a little bit of distance off the hike at least.

Overall, pleasant hike and it's good to know that my vehicle can get to the TH to open up more/different loop options.

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Not certain about the exact spring location, but water was coming up from the ground in the creekbed here and continued to run the length of the canyon to the Red Tank/Coffee intersection. Dripping and green at the source, but much more flow and tastier as you walk down the canyon
 
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I was planning a 2 night backpacking trip with a buddy and it turns out he hadn't really done much more than a day hike or two into the Supes, so that was the natural target. I'm used to backpacking alone so going with someone else opened up an interesting option to stage a shuttle; if you only have two nights in the supes there are several loops but pretty much all the ones in that time frame involve some meh trail that you have to do just to make the loop. With a shuttle option, though... This was a Friday - Sunday trip.

We decided to start at Peralta, heading up Bluff Spring trail to Charleboi, to Calvary, to Second Water, and then to Hackberry before heading out. This was pretty great because you do your main big climb in the first couple miles of the trip and then basically only have one other bigger climb (Second Water) and two steeper decents (down Calvary, down Hackberry). This makes for a pretty chill trip considering the mileage. Due to that, my friend packed out 4 beers in a wet bag with ice for the first night and I brought whiskey... I definitely had the better end of that deal.

The first day on our way to Charlebois was pleasant as it could be. Obviously my friend carrying a billion pounds up Bluff Spring wasn't exactly pleasant for him but the weather was great, water was still flowing in washes, and we encountered few people. Near bluff Spring, we ran across a group of 10-15 people that looked to have backpacking gear and were taking a break; was a curious looking group, and large, so notable but we just hiked on by. From there, we only encountered one guy (twice) on the way to Charleboi. He was either a forest service employee or volunteer, don't quite remember which. Either way, both times we encountered him were when we were taking a break and chatting and then BAM, he just popped up 5 feet away giving us a bit of a jump as we didn't notice him before he made himself known. I designated him ninja forest warrior. Talking to him, he was scouting out and taking pictures of Red Tanks for a crew to go out and do maintenance on it this month which is much needed. Hoping he's a member here and we can get an update because that trail needs it.

Otherwise, the trail to Charleboi was mostly uneventful. The trail has recently been groomed and is mostly free of prickly things and was quite pleasant with a couple of water crossings (no need to get your feet wet though). We made it to the camp area by the spring decently early, I set up my hammock, he set up his tent, we got a fire going, and everything was good.

The next day, our plan was to head to Hackberry Spring. Unexpectedly, the day before we set off on this trip, I had an out of state friend call me to say he'd be in town for a funeral and ask me if there was a spot that'd be just a few miles in close to town he could backpack into after the funeral for a day or two to just relax. Since I already had plans to be at hackberry that day and knew that it'd probably be busy on the weekend, I gave him some GPS coordinates and said to head there and we'd meet him at the end of the day. This worked out great because he got his day of zen while basically holding a spot for us :D

While he was doing that, my buddy and I started our journey from Charleboi to Hackberry. Overall, an easy an pleasant hike. Water was running along the whole way across Dutchman to White Spring and along Calvary trail to Boulder. It makes for a much more tranquil experience. We got to the intersection of Second Water and Boulder and took a break for snack and water and took notice of a lot more traffick. I particularly took note of people who had already made camp at that point, around noonish. I guess I'm just more "hike all day then camp" so that seemed weird to me but screw it, we all enjoy nature differently and in our own way. You do you.

Afterwards, it was a pretty easy, if a bit a of slog, from there to Hackberry. On the way in fron the north, we encountered a laaaaarge scout group that had to have had at least 100 kids (okay, maybe not that many, but a lot.) My out of town buddy had spent a portion of the day gathering entirely too much firewood but I wasn't going to complain: it just meant I got to set up my hammock in a prime location and then have a nice fire with no work at all. We settled in for the night and between my newer friend and my old one, many laughs were had had before going to bed and it was one of the more pleasant nights that I've had in quite a bit.

Once in bed I had a bit of worry a couple times. I was in my hammock but I hadn't brought my tarp as there was zero indication of rain and that's usually pretty reliable here. However, I was woken twice at night by rain drops hitting my face. Definitely had a momemnt of "oh feces" both times but it was just very slight and short lived drizzle that didn't even make my quilt wet. Both my friends had two person tents so, worst case scenario, I could've just popped into one of those but it did make me decide that I'd bring my tarp in the future no matter what. It's a small DCF tarp and only weighs 4-5oz, so isn't the biggest deal but I always try to save weight.

The next day was an easy <2 miles out to the First Water trailhead and pretty uneventful.

Overall, this is a fantastic route to take if you can arrange a shuttle. You get a taste of some of the best parts of the Supes, especially right now when there is water running in the various washes and steams, and you get most of your elevation out of the way right away when your legs are fresh. It really changes it up and changes the vibe.
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Jan 21 2022
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Boulder Canyon Trail #103Phoenix, AZ
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My wife had a quick change of plans that opened up a little window for a quick overnight backpacking trip (always try to find balance with enjoying being alone in the wilderness without putting too much burden on the spouse: key to success). I ended up having to work a little later than planned so scrapped my original plan and decided to hit boulder canyon starting at the lake.

At the marina, there are 10 parking spots that are specifically for people hiking the trail and also note that you don't need a Tonto pass for those. When I got there around 3:30 on Friday, I think there was only one or two other cars. When I left this morning around noon, that was full and I had a couple ask me about where they could park and... I don't know. I know that's private property; are there penalties if you park in another spot? If you have a Tonto pass is it okay?

Any rate, I started my hike around 3:30. The climb definitely lets you know it's there but isn't too bad and the views were quite nice. Around the saddle at the top that you begin your descent on, I ran into the only people I'd see on trail, several people who had set up camp. I lost the trail right around there, turning right when I needed to scramble over a small rock/boulder, and pretty sure they thought I was creeping on them. Sorry! I found the trail soon enough and starting descending. This took a lot longer than expected as it's decently steep in some sections combined with some pretty loose rock making you choose your steps a little more carefully than normal.

Eventually I made it down and found out the backpacking gods had decided I had earned their grace. Slightly off trail through light catclaw (they must have appreciated the blood offering) I found a fantastic camp site that had a bunch of nice wood already cut and sitting next to a fire ring. At this point, it was getting dark so I quickly set up my tent and then started a fire and enjoyed my night reading a pretty good book (fantasy, Martha Wells if you care) and eating some Poblano Chowder by packit gourmet, one of my favorites.

The night was pretty windy and around 2:30, I was woken by a gust and then my tent half fell on me. I have a trekking pole tent and while I had stacked rocks on my stakes since it was pretty soft ground (don't come around THAT often in the supes...), the one that came loose I had thought was in good and just put a tiny rock on. Dumb choice on my part. Stacked some rocks, tent was good. I do wonder about those people on the saddle though. While the views are fantastic there, not the greatest part when weather is kicking up and the wind was 20+ mph where I was so... hope they had fun.

Woke up, ate some breakfast, finished my book, started my trek out. Nothing too exciting to note other than it's much easier going up that south side than down it and I saw probably 50+ people on that 4 mile section, including a couple of off leash dogs. One of the dogs started growling at me and showing teeth but the owner told me, "Oh he won't bite." Keep your damn dogs on a leash, especially on trails that are narrow with cliffs on the side. Most of you don't have your dogs trained near as well as you think and, even then, things happen. I will stab your dog with no bad feelings; I've been bitten once in the past and that's not happening again. I told them this when they made no attempt to control it and they had the nerve to get all indignant with me. Go figure. Pretty dog, though.

Made it back to the trailhead otherwise event free to a much more full lot than yesterday afternoon.
 
Jan 17 2022
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Black Mesa Loop - Superstition MtnsPhoenix, AZ
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I had a rare moment of "day hiking" today versus my normal backpacking identity.

A rare moment that a holiday existed where my wife had off, I had off, and while the kiddo had off, the "after school" camp we pay for had her for all day.... which meant we could do something longer than her 5 year old legs provide for. We don't get a lot of options to do longer hikes together as we don't have family in town to help with the kiddo so this was an unusual treat for us. Based on timing mostly, we decided to do the Black Mesa loop.

We arrived at the First Water trailhead around 9:45 or so and it was full so ended up starting at the horse lot that wasn't full, but had a lot more people than I've ever seen. Maybe a lot more people had today off as a holiday than I thought? Any rate, we did the hike clockwise and it was quite pleasant. My wife hasn't been on these trails before so that was a treat. Overall, pleasant hike and there is still a lot of water running on the Dutch trail that was pleasant. Not enough that you have to get your feet wet but enough to add interest and if you wanted to camp at some locations that are normally dry, you'd have some water nearby right now. 10ish miles total, got back to the trailhead at mid-afternoon and the main First Water TH was only half full and the horse lot was mostly empty. Good times.
 
Jan 15 2022
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I bought one of those Outback Wilderness' on Thursday and it was too shiny for my taste and needed some dirt. I was limited on time so decided that I'd do a quick overnight trip to the Hackberry Spring area, as I'd sort of been avoiding that and at this point was the only official trail left in the supes I hadn't hiked. In my head, for some reason, I thought it'd be pretty meh but I was mostly wrong.
First water Trailhead road condition: I've never seen it bad but it's particularly good right now; seems like it's been maintained pretty recently. No pot holes or ruts to speak of and mostly smooth.
I did this counter-clockwise and it's mostly dull until you turn off of second water, but it's nice, open, and easy, so it's still pleasant. I did end up losing the trail when it skirts north around the mesa there and following a lesser used trail that seems popular with horses that, instead, cut up and down over the mesa. This was actually pretty pleasant because of the views but was a little sketchy on a couple spots coming down that are a little steep with loose rock. I particularly enjoyed the canyon closing in just south of the spring; very pretty, very scenic and first water creek is currently still running a bit but not enough that you have to get your feet wet. I got to the spring area and was, again, impressed; there are still some nice sized trees there despite the fire and even patches of green grass. I was particularly happy to see the trees as I had brought my hammock.

Settled in for the night, had a peak refuel Dal meal which was delicious, watched the new matrix movie on my phone, and called it a night. The way out this morning was quick and easy, albeit windy for the first half. All in all, very pleasant hike.

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There are some large pools on the north side of the trail. The farther north you go on the creek, the bigger the pools are and there is even some okay flow. Historical reference: we had some good rain a bit over a week ago

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Tons of water, at least waist deep. It did rain a bit over a week ago
 
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As the valley started cooling down, I started looking for new trips to do in the low desert safely, without catching on fire. I moved to the valley a bit over 4 years ago but didn't really start backpacking here until around 2 years ago for a variety of reasons. Naturally, all my trips so far have been the more popular areas like the supes, AZT sections, etc. What I realized when I started really looking this time, however, is that there is a sort of... mid-desert in the Mazzies that seem perfect for the 'shoulder season' (such as it is that we get here): not too high, not too low. So, adventure awaits! I have a very flexible work schedule that allows me to do... pretty much whatever, I guess, and I planned/plan on doing several multi-day trips in the wilderness there over the next few weeks before it gets colder than I like. So, long story not so short, I decided to do a quick 1 night out and back on Barnhardt to see what the trail conditions were like and if it's something I would enjoy.

Boy oh boy.

I arrived to the Barnhardt trailhead a bit past noon on Friday. The road to the trailhead is mostly okay; I suspect it's worse than last year but would still be accessible by most sedans as long as they take it slow/pay attention on a couple of sections; not so much of a clearance problem but definitely rocky/with some sharp rocks.

The first few miles up to the "falls" brought mixed emotions! The first little bit was rocky, which I'm not the biggest fan of, but then the trail became more pebbly, which was nice, and I found myself gaining the elevation without a lot of effort, really. If you've seen my previous triplogs you'll note that I'm not in the worst shape, but it ain't great, either. Frankly, I barely noticed climbing 2k feet which is pretty damn awesome. There was one section of trail that was washed out and I had to navigate some boulders/rocks that was a little skectchy near the 2.5 mile mark or so, but not too bad. I'll also say that since I usually am solo, I'm extra cautious with anything remotely sketchy so I assign it higher points of sketchiness than most would probably (yes, I used forms of sketch way too often in those sentences. Deal).

I eventually got to the falls area, seeing only one couple the entire time returning to the TH, collected some water, cameled up, and continued on my way (it was later than I wanted so I didn't spend any time going up the rocks to see the actual falls since I figured I'd have plenty of daylight on the return). Past this point, it was clear that most people stop at the falls. You immediately do a little bit of climbing and then for the next 3 miles the trail transitions in and out of "where is the trail" and "this is friggin beautiful wide open trail with New Zealand like views" and "crap why are there so many damn rocks, my feet already hurt". Overall, very enjoyable but was slower going than I thought it would be. Eventually, I arrived at the intersection of the Mazatazal Divide trail which is also part of the AZT. I, naively, figured this would be a pretty well established trail and figured that while not many SOBOs would've past just yet, there would've been enough to make it a more established trail. LOL. Idiot. I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about. Generally, from that intersection to Chilson spring, the weren't a lot of areas where someone could see the trail too well. When you could? You were just rock hopping. The good news is that is was mostly overgrown with some sort of grass and while it mostly obscured the trail, at least it wasn't hurting me. At this point, it was getting later and while I had originally hoped to make Horse Camp, I realized that just wasn't going to happen; the grass trapped my feet making progress slow, the trail follows a contour and was rocky, so had to be careful with my steps to not fall down the cliff. In the end, I had semi-planned for this and knew Chilson Camp would be my backup plan.

Since that had been a backup plan, I also knew that Chilson Spring was a bit of a hike uphill from the trail and, based on my experience so far, I knew it'd probably be an overgrown uphill slog. Luckily, about .25 mile or so before that, I ran across running water on the trail on a wash which is probably from Casterson seep north of it and just gathered a couple litres of that to carry to camp, avoiding the Chilson Spring slog (Spoiler: I dropped my pack the next day and slogged up to the spring and it sucked because it was crazy overgrown but the box was full).

I (slowly) made my way to the Brody Seep intersection and made it to Chilson camp. My left ankle was in pain (think I owe this to it being a brand new pair of shoes, albeit the same make/model as I always use but a new year that needed to be beat into submission) and I wasn't feeling great, honestly, as I was expecting more of a super clear/defined trail with no obstacles based on what I read. All that was replaced with a sense of calm and awe, however, as I looked at Mazatzal peak, glowing an amazing red as the sun set, with the bright full moon shining bright over it. Truly beautiful and I sat for a bit watching as the sun faded...

...and then said, okay, that's nice, I need to set up camp. I set up my hammock and then noticed that some good samaritan had left a bunch of processed wood by the firepit... So yeh, had a nice campfire, ate dinner, read a book for a couple of hours, went to bed. It was cool, but not cold, although fairly windy, but comfortable. Overall, a damn good night.

The next day I woke and ate the home made pop-tart my wife made and snuck in my pack (Seriously, these homemade ones are amazing.), had my coffee, and set out. And, as seems to be the common theme of my trips lately, the going out was easier than going in. The rocky areas were still rocky, but it seemed like someone had cleared a bunch of them compared to my memory. The grassy bushwhacky parts? Still like that but I seemed to find my footing much easier and made good time. Just a beautiful day. I made my way to the falls where I actually went into the grotto area to check them out. They're... something. Admittedly I also went to Iceland this summer which is waterfall mecca so I think I'm spoiled for life. I continued on down the trail with nothing to note except for a large group of people; something like 15-20 people sitting on the side of the trail on one of the switchbacks. Some looked like they had maps and were learning to read azimuth/use a compass and I saw one or two with notebooks that were drawing the cliff side and then I think I saw one person that had a national forest shirt? I didn't stop to ask questions but I kind of wish I did now because I'm curious what they were out there doing.

Finally, the only other think of note was that in the last quarter mile of trail a tarantula ran over my foot, which caused me to jump back a bit because hell, I didn't know what I just saw. Then it stopped on the side of the trail and I was able to look and it and take a couple of pictures. This was awesome because in my hundreds of AZ hiking miles, I've never actually seen one of the things! So that was a really nice way to end the hike. Fin.
 
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I've been in a bit of a mental slump recently and work was a bit slow, so I decided to do a quick overnight trip on a trail that I have avoided in the 5 years I've lived in Arizona because I just don't like crowds: West Fork. I figured that if I went on a Thursday, maybe it wouldn't be so busy and I wouldn't feel compelled to murder people. With that in mind, I set off around 10 from Phoenix and got to the trailhead around 12:45 as there was an accident on 17 (color me surprised) that caused a bit of delay. The parking lot was decently full but still had more than a few empty spots, so I paid my fee and had a small feeling of joy that I didn't have to road walk a bit. Now, I've read that there is no overnight parking allowed at the lot but I saw no signs at the pay station and I read more than a few trip reports that also stayed overnight that never mentioned negative consequences, so I didn't sweat it too much. In the end, I had no note on my windshield once I got back or otherwise negative consequence, but I'm still not quite sure it's "allowed".

My plan was to hike in somehwere between 6-8 miles and I was on the hunt for an epic camp site I've seen in various pictures and videos that required using a rope to help navigate up a steep incline; I had seen a couple youtube videos that showed the entry point that looked right off the creek so I figured if I was diligent, I'd see it. In the end, I think I *might* have but I feel like the flash flooding this past year may have made it inaccessible... but I'm also not sure if I had the right spot. It was the only place I saw a rope, but it was out of reach and no possible way for me to even get to it. I do suspect it may have been a different spot though. If anyone knows what I'm talking about and would like to PM me with even an approximate location so I can know if I was in the ball park, it'd be appreciated.

Any rate... The trail. I really didn't run into an annoying amount of people on the maintained trail, and most seemed to go to a point about 1.25-1.5 miles in and turnaround because, after that, I saw just 6 people or so, including one couple also planning to backpack in. I made it to the end of the maintained trail in a bit over an hour an paused for a few minutes while I ate some fruit snacks. There had been thunder the entire time I was on trail with just a few drops of rain so a little doubt entered my head if I wanted to continue on as a canyon is obviously the last place you want to be in a storm. In the end, I trusted my weather reports and decided to contine on. The sky was overcast and I had gotten a bit later start than I wanted but I didn't think that'd be too big a deal. The canyon was beautiful as expected but the water was deeper than I expected! Somewhere around 1.5-2 miles past the trail, I got to a point where I couldn't see the bottom of the creek anymore due to depth and looked to be at least that deep past a corner that I couldn't see beyond. Again, I sat on a rock, ate some fruit snacks and thought about it. I hike solo and swimming slightly blind around a bend seemed a bit...sus. At the end of the day, though, I knew this may happen and had packed everything in my bag accordingly, so I said tarzan swing it and decided to just send it. I'm not a tall guy and ended up having to slightly swim this part; it was neck deep mostly with a couple of spots where I lost my footing and went deeper. This was, admittedly, a bit scary but the section wasn't very long in the grand scheme of things. There was another section that I was nipples deep in that was similarly uncomfortable due to the coldness of the water, but made it through just fine. In general, after 5-5.5 miles or so, there was a ton of evidence of recent flash flooding and overgrowth. I had to spend the entire time in knee deep creek or crawling through overgrown game paths. Once I got about 7 miles in and still hadn't found the specific site I was lookign for, I kept going out of, really, sunk cost fallacy. It became super bushwhacky with no sign of use but I kept going, kept hoping until I got about 8.5 miles in. At that point, I was losing light quickly so turned around and hiked about a mile back to a site I had noticed on the way in that was nice and would be good for my hammock; I settled in, made camp, noticed how quickly the temperature dropped, and enjoyed a very comfortable night reading and wathcing some Apple TV on my phone (Note, huge sci-fi geek here, the show See is pretty damn good as long as you're okay with a little hand wavey-ness).

I woke up around 7, well rested, and noticed it was still pretty cool outside of my hammock and was not enjoying the idea of walking and wading and swimming through the cold water. So, I just stayed and read and watched some more show :)
Around 9, I decided it was time to face the music and realized the temperature had risen since I woke up... from 48 degrees to 52. Swell. I packed off and set off and immediately was surprised. The sun was bright and even though the water was cold, it warmed me and I stopped to put on sunscreen. While I did that, I also thought I remembered the location I was at and the water seemed a bit lower. It was! Apparently the storms from the previous day had raised the water level on my hike in, to my best guess, by about a foot. On my way back, it was immensely more enjoyable, I didn't have to swim, the water level got to my mid-thigh at the highest, and it was just... special. I was really able to enjoy the beauty.

I eventually ended up back to where the official trail ended which looked much different than Thursday: there were about 50 people just hanging out there... and here I was, a solitary person sloshing around the canyon corning out of nowhere towards them. I got some weird looks. Then next few miles went by with no events to note other than it was about a million times more busy than on Thursday and I was happy with my decision to go mid-week.

Overall, this was a great experience and it was super interesting because I got two very different experiences of the same trail. Well worth it.
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This trip was done April 7-10, I just got around to writing this up for my records.

It was time for an adventure. Somewhat unexpectedly, I had a couple of days open up that I could take off of work easy enough at the last minute so I decided to take a backpacking trip a littler further away than usual. Not too long ago I had watched a YouTube video that one of our members here did in the Grand Gulch which really caught my interest (previously WildWestHikes, now WildlandExplorer; if you're into the niche genre of backpacking YouTube, he does a great job and is a nice change of pace as most of backpacking YouTube is back out East, very different from our biome). The lure of Southern Utah is always there but this one is also a bit unique for a solo backpacker as you could stage a bike shuttle easy enough; the road pretty much all paved and the dirt road to the Bullet canyon is short and well maintained. The area just entered permit season so I was a bit worried but that was no issue; snagged permits for my days and it was on: would hike in to Kane Gulch on a Thursday and hike out of Bullet Canyon.

My planning mostly consisted of just figuring out the water situation as the route is pretty popular and not like you can get lost easily; just don't climb the giant cliffs to the side of you and you'll make your way to where you need to be eventually. Ol' WildlandExplorer went at the end of fall and packed in an enormous amount of water (I think it was something like 10+ liters?) because he wasn't sure what the situation would be then. My fitness level can, at best, be described as "okay" so I had zero interest in doing that. After doing a ton of internet sleuthing and talking to the rangers, I felt comfortable that I wouldn't need to carry more than 2 liters with me at any given time and this proved to be accurate. For anyone referencing this for their own trip, it appears that Todie Spring, Green Mask, and Jailhouse are reliable year-round, and are what I used as sources; I'm calling them reliable based on a couple dozen forum posts from various places at all different times of year and talking to two rangers. This is great as it's about 6-8 miles between each, which is a perfectly reasonable distance between water sources. I found that Coyote Spring may be reliable year-round, too, but didn't use that on this trip. There is a lot of mention of a spring at the junction of Bullet Canyon and Grand Gulch but I'm skeptical that exists anymore. There was a giant flood a few years ago and every reference I've seen to that spring post-flood is that it's not there/it's dry. It seems like the flood and all the debris it tossed around may have changed the flow of that perhaps? Either way, wouldn't count on that one.

For the first day, I got in around 10:30 or so after staying the night in Tuba City (couldn't get out of work quite as early as I would have liked the day before). My plan was to go to the Bullet Canyon trailhead and either drop off my bike and drive to Kane or, what I was hoping, get a drop of my car and get a hitch to Kane. I figured I would save the bike ride for the end because it gives you two chances at getting a hitch and, if you don't, well you have 7 miles to bike and think about your poor decision making skills.

I did not get a hitch.

So, bike dropped off, I checked in with the ranger at the station to make sure nothing had changed regarding water based on my research and they confirmed I had it right. With that in mind, I filled my bottles with 1.5 liters and set out. The trail quickly starts the slow and easy decent into the canyon, a mixture of sand and slick rock to carry you forward. I was immediately greeted with a ton of snow patches doing their best, and failing, to stay frozen. It made for a beautiful sight and also put to ease any last lingering water concerns I may have had. The streams of water created from the melt would continue for about 3 miles or so before disappearing; this was a bit sad but it seems like the disappearance of water happened right when the canyon walls start closing in and creating top tier views. My target for the night was Todie canyon, about 8 miles in, give or take. The terrain was easy and flat, with the only exception being if you go in and out of the wash. There are no real trails here but there is an obvious social trail and then a multitude of game trails. I decided to mix it up a bit and utilize both; staying in the wash didn't sound fun and restricts your views. Nonetheless, judging by the footprints, a lot of people do seem to stay in it for a good chunk of the trip. I took it slow, taking in the famous ruins like Turkey pen, and got to the junction of Todie canyon around 4 or 5, which had an amazing campsite with incredible views down Todie. I set my pack down and went on a quest for water. I was just about out, so this was pretty important. I went down the canyon on a well used social trail on the North side for about .25-.5 miles (I had read multiple sources that said the water would be somewhere in that range) and... nothing. I won't lie, I was starting to get a little worried as I had maybe a quarter liter left. I switched to the south side of the canyon, though, and immediately found water. So, there you go, all the research in the world won't help you if you don't also pay attention to which side of the canyon the water is actually on. Go figure.

I got back to camp just as a group of 4 was rolling in, looking for somewhere to settle in for the night. As usual, I was solo but don't mind company and the site had about 5 areas where you could fit a medium size army, so I told them to feel free to just set up camp and that it wasn't intruding on me at all. We chatted just a bit that night; they were from Salt Lake and out doing the same route as me. I made my dinner (if you guys are sleeping on packit gourmet, fix that. Best backpacking food out there in my opinion), watched some netflix, and fell asleep with a warm belly of whisky.

The next day, I didn't really have a target plan. I set out decently early, zig zagging through ruins and the wash, making my way forward. I would end up leap frogging the Salt Lake group for a good chunk of the day and then one other group of 5 or 6 guys with packs that looked to be about 100 pounds each. Eventually I made my way to the spring by the Green Mask which was cold and delicious. Around the same time, the other two groups got there as well and we all took a needed break, sharing stories and filtering water. One member of the Salt Lake group decided that wasn't enough and had a small fainting incident; he was pretty clearly suffering from mild dehydration and I think had underestimated how much the sun exposure was zapping out of him. I gave him a couple of my nuun tablets to help with electrolites and hydration and he was good to go before too long.

I had struck up good conversation with the guy so once we left there, I stuck with him and just continued chatting. The three women he was with were absolute beasts and just blowing us out of the water with their hiking speed, so it worked out. Eventually, we made our way past Jailhouse Spring (a bit murky but filtered and tasted just fine) and to a spot across from jailhouse where the canyons just open up wide. I found a nice spot under some beautiful trees and set up camp while the group found a spot in a more exposed area that could fit their tents not too far away. I'm normally a solo hiker and while I enjoyed the company while hiking, I also enjoyed having this spot to myself so I could be the introvert that I truly am. Throughout the evening and the next morning, I saw roughly 15 deer, one herd of 5 getting within 20 feet of my camp and just staring me down; I took some video of this and my 5 year daughter thought it was the funniest thing ever.

The next morning was to be a short 4.5 miles or so and ended up hiking out with that group again. This day proved to be much tougher than the others as the climb out of the canyon is done over a fair bit smaller milage. Nothing crazy, but there were some definite switchbacks that got my heart pumping. We made it back in good time and, what do you know, they had a cooler with some sparkling water... that was still ice cold. They offered my one and it was glorious.

Oh, and what do you know, they had a bike rack and were more than happy for me to load my bike on it and give me a ride to the trailhead as they were going north anyway.

This trip was one for the books. I didn't mention it much, but there truly are ruins and artifacts all over the place that make this a really interesting trip. They, mostly, aren't kept behind gates or restricted zones which means you can get up close, imagine what it was like for the people that called this home, and just let your mind mull over how long humans have been around just making life happen. Truly fantastic.

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