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Riggs - Clark - Cunningham - Webb - Ice Cave, AZ 
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1st trip
Day two n the Pinalenos. Drove to Riggs Lake to get started. Hiked around the lake then up to Clark Peak. Nice hiking and views.
We then drove to do the Cunningham Loop. We didn't realize a big chunk had gone unmaintained since the fire. We took the path of least resistance and completed a nice loop anyway.
Next up was Webb Peak. Finally, after hanging out in camp a few hours, we headed out to the infamous ice caves. We found a few caves, lost a phone for a bit, and made it back in one piece. Big day! :)
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Riggs - Clark - Cunningham - Webb - Ice Cave, AZ 
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day two in the pinalenos
coffee and breakfast, then we drove up to riggs lake
bruce had a loop that took off from the west side of riggs flat lake, then some off trail and forest service roads to clark peak trail
a little brushy but not the locust fest we were warned about
decent views from the peak
returned to the east side of the lake via forest service roads
next up was cunningham loop
we started off counterclockwise on the loop, which was along an old roadbed
at two miles, we found that the connection with the southeast loop was pretty much obliterated
one climb to a higher roadbed as we finished the western portion of the loop
nice hike with good views below
lots of slash piles, some right on the trail
had plenty of time to do the webb peak loop
the tower is still there, but just the steel framework remains of the lookout
finished via the road
a stop at the visitor center, then hung out at camp for awhile
late afternoon trip to try and find the ice caves
we found one that john and i had been to eight years ago, then scrambled around the hillside looking for more
noticed i no longer had my phone in my pocket, which was a bit stressful
bruce was able to call my phone, and we could hear it as i retraced the route i had taken
found it sitting on top of a boulder, thank goodness
backpacker meals for dinner and another fire made for a nice evening
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Riggs - Clark - Cunningham - Webb - Ice Cave, AZ 
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Riggs Lakeshore Trail #340

We started our day around 7:30 a.m. at Riggs Lake. It was my first time there, and it’s a pretty little lake. There were a few fishermen and kids wandering from their campsites, beginning to stir for the day. Heading clockwise, we followed a use trail to a two-track road and ultimately reached the Clarke Peak Trailhead.

Clark Peak

John's girlfriend Denise at the Columbine Visitor Center had warned us that this trail was terribly overgrown with locust trees and not worth hiking. However, we weren’t in the listening mood and decided to give it a try anyway. The rumors of locusts were highly exaggerated. John and Kelly both hiked in shorts and short sleeves with little to no bloodshed. The trail is tight in spots, and there are multiple paths heading up the mountain. This is a worthwhile trail to explore when in the Riggs Lake area.

CP Flat Loop

This loop is located entirely on the far western section of the Swift Trail and 4x4 road. It’s mainly wooded, with some impressive views along the Swift.

Cunningham Loop Trail #316

Next up was the official loop found here. Starting from the Cunningham Campground parking lot, we made our way around counterclockwise to the intersection with the "Lower" portion of the loop. Evidence of the fire was abundant, but not everything had been torched. A significant amount of work has been done to open this portion of the loop. There are literally hundreds of slash piles stacked along sections of the trail. At about the 2-mile mark, we reached the intersection with the "Lower" Trail. Things changed quickly; this section is a warzone. We aborted our attempt there and opted to complete just the "Upper" portion. Later, while talking with a volunteer at the visitor center, we learned that the lower portion was severely damaged by the Frye Fire and may never be rebuilt.

Webb Peak Loop via Columbine TH

Since we had some extra time, we decided to do this loop. Starting from the Columbine Trailhead, we headed uphill through the burn area and the now 2-foot tall aspen. The fire tower still stands but is charred. We continued down the lookout road and back to the parking area, where John made another new friend. He thought he’d have her eating out of his hand with his sweet-talking, but she had no part of it.

Ice Cave

We returned to camp for a bit, had some lunch, relaxed, and then set out in search of the "Ice Cave."

It was just a short walk from our campsite. Kelly had a waypoint, and I had a waypoint from an online search, so we wandered about looking for other possibilities. We found three potential sites.

The first was easy to find, just about 50 feet into the mountain, but I didn't think it was the right one.

The second one, John descended into a bit before the bats chased him out. This cave dropped straight down pretty steeply, and I ultimately believe this is the one we were looking for.

The third cave was a bit more adventurous to reach. Kelly, John, and I took two different routes through the boulder fields, searching for possibilities. I found one that you could enter, which contained at least one large room measuring approximately 20 by 20 feet.

While Kelly was making her way over to us through the mass of boulders, we heard a “Oh Schmidt!” (or something like that). She’d lost her phone somewhere, and it could have been anywhere, including 50 feet straight down among the boulders. John tried calling it, but we heard nothing. We all worked our way back to where she’d come from. I tried calling it, and BINGO—we heard it! She was lucky to find it sitting right on top of a rock.
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Overnight camp with Jayden high on Graham.

Monday - Arrived at Riggs Lake in the AM and right away got our lines in the water for dinner. Holy smokes we caught our limit of rainbows (8) in under a 1/2 hour ... the fishing was GOOD!
We then set up our campsite (#16) and hiked the Lakeshore Trail followed by a hammock rest. At sunset we built our campfire and had dinner. Later into the night we made our way down to the lake shore to take in the endless stars on the moonless night ... wow!
Day 1 ended back at the campfire with conversation, laughs and bed.

Tuesday - Awoke early to a nice 50 degree morning. Packed up camp and headed out to the end of the Swift Trail for the hike of the day. We looped CP counter-clock, always a nice little hike through the aspens. Leaves are just starting to come in. After hike plan was to just slow roll our way back down the mountain taking our time with stops at Solider Creek, Treasure Park, Arcadia & RTM campgrounds.

Good overnight with a great friend on an Awesome mountain!
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What a beautiful time of the year to be on Graham!
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2 day trip to the end of the Swift Trail mainly to see CP Flat's colors.

Day 1 -
Took the Swift Trail to it's end and hiked CP counterclock. The aspens looked good, not peak yet, but good enough for me. I then drove to Riggs Lake, picked a campsite for the night and hiked around the lake on the Lakeshore Trail. Only 2 other parties camping that night. Campfire, dinner and an early bed. Awoke to 34 degree temps ... yikes (for me)!

Day 2 -
Packed up camp and drove out to Grand View. After some wandering around the area, I made it up to the peak. I think I've taken an unplanned different route up to that peak every time. A little further down the road I stopped at Chesley Flat for a short one down Blair Canyon ... I had to scratch an itch.

The aspens up high will be peaking soon and everything else on the drive up/down is just starting to pop.
Saw many deer, Abert's & turkeys along the way and had a campsite skunk for night 1

T'was a good trip!
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Riggs Flat CampgroundTucson, AZ
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Enjoyed my time at Riggs so much last week that I decided to do it again.
Less people occupying campsites on the way up this time.
Checked with camp host Jan about "problem" bear situation and she said it hadn't been back - G&F bear trap was gone, too.
Brought my tent this time so I could use site #31, and I enjoyed it as much as I thought I would. No one else in the walk-in area, and not too many people passing by/fishing nearby either. 35 steps from campsite to lakeshore. The flies were less than last week, and the mammals and birds were more numerous.
After setting up and relaxing a bit, and a couple of drinks, I decided to tackle Merrill Peak first. Last week I had made it halfway up from the West without even trying to, then I realized that it was too hot to be climbing uphill, over deadfall, in the direct sun in the middle of the afternoon.
This time I started up the shallow drainage at the end/beginning of the campground loop road. I only stayed in or along the drainage for maybe 10 minutes, then hung a right uphill more or less directly towards the Peak. Still a little steep, but much better from this side with some shade and without doing the deadfall hurdles. Saw some trees sporting their bark beetle repellent patches.
Reached the top and had a nice break - no sign of a summit log.
Since the lake was right below I decided to head pretty much straight down to it - route worked out great, but I probably wouldn't use it going uphill. It had taken me about 45 minutes to get up to the Peak, but with the quick way down I popped out on the loop road after only 15 minutes!
Then I got delayed another 20 or so talking with Jan. Nice lady, but if you start a conversation with her make sure you have a while. While chatting with her, Clay the "reptile guy" stopped by to report that he'd caught a couple trout (they haven't been stocked this summer, so no one is catching much). Second week in a row up at Riggs that I got a "hey, I know you" ... turns out I met Clay last May at Aravaipa Canyon and hiked with him from the 2WD trailhead to the Turkey Creek th.
Had a nice long read (finally finished my designated camp book of the past few trips, "Women of the Grand Canyon" highly recommend!) and then a great night's sleep. Definitely a few interesting sounds in the night, but nothing that kept me awake. The birds got busy at the first lightening of the sky and woke me up at 4:30! Got one more hour of sleep before I was up for good.
Nice to have real breakfast and hot coffee this time - last time my stove refused to work, which turned out to be due to a dud fuel canister.
Soon I was ready to head off on the CP Flat Loop - parked at the CP corral/campground and began looping.
Such a great little hike! Obviously stellar in the Fall, but hey Aspens are pretty in the Summer too! Love the tree tunnel parts and the meadows. Saw one deer in the last/biggest meadow. Took a nice break at the awesome campsite there.
Back at camp by 9am for second breakfast, and the birding got good. Saw Yellow-rumped "Audubons" Warbler, Red-faced Warblers (including the most adorable fledgling who just looked so happy and pleased with herself to be hopping around the trees and trying to catch her own bugs), Hairy Woodpecker, Red-shafted Flicker, Stellar Jays, Yellow-eyed Juncos, and of course Robins (cute fledgling/juvenile here too). Also saw deer a couple different times.
Final hike was the Lakeshore loop, with trashbag ... since I just did it a week ago, it wasn't so bad and the bag was only half full.
Final fun bird on the drive down - an unexpected Turkey crossed the road in front of me (then crossed right back again after I passed) near the Jesus Goudy camping area.
Last few miles of the downhill were spent following someone who apparently doesn't know about downshifting and using your gears properly, so I was treated to the smell of burning brakes.
Another fine 24 on the Mountain! :)
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Chumley put together this out and back over to Clark Peak and Riggs Lake. Starting from camp we had to drop 1300 feet to Taylor Pass before then gaining 2000 feet up to Clark Peak. The peak is off trail but not by much and very easy to bag this peak from the trail. After the peak we kept hiking on the trail towards Riggs Lake with great views on the ridge classic Sky Island hiking! Eventually we made it to Chesley Flat trailhead and followed the road to Riggs Lake. Of course being a holiday weekend there were many people there enjoying the lake. But we found a nice grassy spot to enjoy lunch and relax before heading back.


On the way back it felt like a different hike even though it was the same trail. The trail is in great shape so we cruised back enjoying the views heading the opposite direction. Several fern meadows along the way followed by the steep drop back down to Taylor Pass. Then back up 1300 feet to camp to finish off the day hike.
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The real purpose of our quick overnight to the Pinalenos was my desire to hike the Clark Peak Trail between Riggs and West. Having seen it from West Peak on a couple of previous trips it just appeared intriguing to me.

Previous trip reports seemed to indicate some route finding issues, but we had little problem keeping on the tread the whole way. The little attention it took to follow the route made it more interesting and enjoyable for me. I enjoy the "challenge" of finding/following old or little-used trails.

We encountered another couple about 1/4 mile from the Chesley Flat trailhead, but otherwise, not a soul except for those at Riggs Lake where we took a nice break in the grass along the shore. I had only carried two liters of water so I was a little disappointed to learn that the water at the campground was turned off. I filtered an extra half liter from the lake but ended up not needing it anyway.

It looks like there are a few old and underused trails out at this end of the range, and since the other side is a crisp fritter, I might need to check some of these others out.

It was a solid day, and I really, really enjoyed this trail for variety, views, and solitude. A real winner in my book!
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My final trip up to the top of Graham to survey the damage left from the Frye Fire before the November 15th winter closure. I met up with Preston and together we headed up the mountain as we have done so many times before. Plan was to survey as many sites as we could and also get in a hike at the end of the Swift Trail. We drove the entire road to it's end and this is what we saw & know .....

We first stopped on the way up for a quick trek up "secret canyon" for some fall colors, looked good and is only gonna get better. A return trip up will be made soon.
Second stop up was made at Ladybug Saddle to show Preston where & how I dislocated my shoulder last week, I was in need of some sympathy.
Then around to the backside/top and into the burn -

Snow Flat - Road down to the CG hit with med intensity burn, campground unaffected and beautiful.
Treasure Park CG - Road down med burn, meadow and CG mostly unaffected and beautiful, the "back" CG hit hard and now gated with "forest closed" sign.
Cunningham CG - Intact, but high burn all around CG. The trail-head for Grant Creek & Moonshine has "closed forest" sign. We could see golden aspens down in Moonshine and a later overlook view showed that lower Grant Creek from Ft Grant TH was unaffected, the upper trail has burned. At Cunningham we talked with a high up Forest Service employee who gave up permission to hike a bit into Ash Creek for a look a little further up the road.
Soldier Creek CG - One of my favorites and I was very happy to see an intact CG with minimal burn around it. The Grant Goudy Ridge (and Ice Caves) TH is open with the standard "caution burn area" sign.
Deadman-Highline Trail - The feel good story of the day! We drove down Bible Camp road to see if the trail-head sign that Preston made and posted back in 2010 made it through the fire. We hiked a bit up the trail through a hard hit area to find burn all-around the perfectly intact sign! It damn near brought a manly tear to my eye to see Preston's joy that it made it through -
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Columbine Corrals CG - From the happiest part of the day to the saddest. We parked at Columbine visitor center and hiked in across the road to the corrals. This whole area is closed including Webb Peak & Ash Creek due to high intensity burn. As stated earlier we had permission to hike a bit in. We took the trail just to where the switchbacks start down and that's about as far as you can go. Of all my trips up since the re-opening, this one punched me in the chest the hardest. I just could not believe I was looking down Ash Creek Canyon ..... black sticks as far as I could see down and on both sides of the canyon. We were told by Forest Service earlier at Cunningham that a decision was made to close and not work on Ash Creek & Frye Mesa Trail (where the fire started) for at least the next 3 years. Webb Peak is also black sticks, but was told that a loop may be re-opened next year.
Riggs Flat Lake - After Ash Creek we continued down the road through much more burn until finally reaching Riggs where the west end of the fire came to an end. We drove down to the lake that does have some minimal burn down, then through the campgrounds & ended with a nice hike around the lake on the Lakeshore Trail. Riggs Lake area for the most part was unaffected by the fire. Merrill Peak was hit on top and I'm sure the backside was too. There is a "burn" sign posted for the Jesus Babcock Trail behind the campground.
CP Flat - Finally on to the end of the road to hike CP Flat. A very needed break from fire damage with an autumn walk through Letty's Grove. I knew we were late for the golden aspen leaves up high, but just as beautiful hiking on the golden leaf road!
Blair Canyon - On the drive back out we stopped at Chesley Flat to see how Blair Canyon fared and as expected ..... not well. High burn and I'm sure Chesley Flat to Webb Peak looks the same.
Quick last stop at the Shake Trail to show Preston the red slurry covered trees at the start of the trail, this entire trail survived and is one of the very few left unaffected.

Our trip ended on the straightaway where Preston dropped me off at my truck, we said our good-bye's & I drove home still processing what I saw on top.

I have now seen the entire top of Graham and have a good understanding to the condition of the majority of the forest & trails. As stated in other logs - I am still shook, bitter & angry over this fire. The damage is much worse then I ever expected. There is still a lot of green up there and I have found a few places that still holds some un-burned beauty that will keep me looking for more. I have spent my entire life going up that mountain and this will take many years to come to peace with ..... I just hope someday I will get there.
I understand that most don't want to read about others personal hardships as I honestly don't like reading them myself. What has happened has happened and I cannot change it only move on - This will be my last log about the Frye Fire of 2017!

To close I just want to thank Preston for taking me up the mountain to view the destruction with me. Seeing it with a good friend made it more bearable. There will be many more great trips up & around Ole' Graham my friend!!!
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Met up with Chad bright and early after another all-nighter working at the telescope on Mount Graham, and we started up the Swift Trail. The focus of the day was to tour the Pinalenos and see first hand the effects of the Frye Fire of June 2017. Our first stop of the day was at a small canyon that I had passed so many times without ever stopping to explore it. This little hidden gem was loaded with changing maples and flowing water.

As we passed the top end of the Shake Trail, we entered into the main burn area of the Frye Fire. Pitchfork Canyon looked like it had been skewered by the Devil’s flaming pitchfork. A mountain side of black sticks where a lush stand of mature firs had once provided dense shade. The Arrow Tree still stood.

Stop 2 was at Snow Flat. Most of this area had fared well, with the exception being the back road to Treasure Park (Treasure Park via Snow Flat hike is charcoal city). Hospital Flat had some damage but is still beautiful, I think.

Stop 3 was Grant Hill Trailhead. Grant Hill was almost entirely consumed in a crown fire. Hopefully aspens will thrive here in the coming decades, but it looks pretty bad right now, and the trail loops on it are closed for the foreseeable future. We talked with the Squirrel Girl here, and heard the latest Red Squirrel census, which was pretty grim (35 found during the post-fire count, I heard).

The Grant Creek area didn’t look too bad, with only moderate fire damage, as we approached Stop 4: Cunningham Campground, next to the western trailhead of the Cunningham Loop. We talked with some
Forest Service employees briefly, and checked out the the Grant Creek Trailhead before continuing on. The Moonshine Creek area fared well, with fall aspens and ferns adding some color.

The Fort Grant overlook revealed Grant Creek Canyon to have a mosaic burn pattern, with plenty of green forest left intact.

Approaching Columbine through the singed spruce-fir, we turned down Bible Camp Road toward the Deadman-Highline Trailhead. Bible Camp Road had seen mosaic burn, and while there was heavy damage in places, there were some patches of surviving spruce-fir. I knew that much of Deadman had been thoroughly torched, but I had hope that my trail sign might have survived. As we rounded the first corner of Deadman, there was the trail sign I had made in 2010, perfectly undamaged among burned logs. I couldn’t believe it, and it was one of the few sights that day that made me smile. I unbolted my soot-covered creation to bring it home, as Deadman-Highline, my favorite Pinaleno trail, will probably not ever reopen.

The next stop was one Chad and I were both apprehensive over: Columbine Corral/Ash Creek Trailhead. We had heard that Ash Creek and Webb Peak were severely burned and a sea of black sticks. Sadly, that was true. The jewel of the Pinalenos was completely devoid of green, save for some small aspen and raspberry sprouts in places. Heartbreaking. On to the next spot...

Soldier Creek Campground looked great, just like old times.

As we drove toward Chesley Flat across the black skeleton slopes of Webb Peak, we wondered if any of the top was untouched by this mega-fire. Fire damage beyond Chesley Flat was less severe, and finally ceased at the turnoff for Riggs Lake. There is some ground fire evidence on the east side of Riggs, but very minor. We walked around the lake on the Lakeshore Trail, finally able to see a healthy, familiar favorite.

We continued down the last mile plus of the Swift Trail through the unburned forests of old, to the Clark Peak Trailhead, where we started the CP Flat Loop hike. The west end of the Pinalenos was deserted and we enjoyed a great hike through the aspens and mixed conifer woodland.
The rugged cliffs of Grandview Peak above Hell’s Hole looked amazing with a small strip of golden aspens clinging precariously.

Making our way home, I pulled over at Chesley Flat to check out the upper end of the Blair Canyon Trail and the old “spooky woods” area. This area was on the edge of the Webb Peak inferno and sustained heavy but not total damage. Still some survivor trees, including the tumor tree, and the ancient Blair Canyon Trail sign.

We continued back down the mountain, discussing our findings and thoughts on the matter, and made one final stop at the upper Shake Trailhead to see trees caked in red retardant from the fire.

Back on the straightaway at the base of the Pinalenos, Chad headed for home, and I grabbed a sandwich at Mount Graham Market for dinner on the road to home.

A few observations, which are totally my opinion...
Most of the burn area, which includes the majority of the top of the Pinalenos, appeared to me to have about 50% tree mortality. Of that 50%, a large portion of these trees were covered in dead needles with no sign of green (heat scorched trees, rather than burn, maybe?). The most severe burn areas appeared to be Pitchfork Canyon, Grant Hill, Ash Creek, and Webb Peak. The least severe/most green areas appeared to be Snow Flat, the area north of Hospital Flat, and Grant Creek watershed. The top of Graham Ridge between Shannon Campground and the summit of Mount Graham was severely burned, with almost total tree mortality. Severe erosion scarred most of the drainages and creeks on top. I won’t discuss my personal feelings here, other than to say the burn was worse than I had feared. I still love the Pinalenos, and always will, but they sure do look rough right now. I might post a photo set.

Chad, thanks for another great adventure! Much better to see sights like this with a like-minded friend.
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Me, Addie & Bianca started our day trip by first driving the entire Swift Trail to Clark Peak.
We then hit the short CP Flat Loop for a walk through the Aspen grove. Always a beautiful trail anytime of the year!
Next up we backtracked in the truck down to Riggs Lake for a picnic and hike around the lake along the Lakeshore Trail, The lake was very calm, quiet & scenic on this day.
Then a drive down the Swifty to Grant Hill for the clockwise loop to end the day, trail looked great and will always be one of my favorites for the aspen lovin!

Autumn colors were a mix on this trip. The front side of the mountain going up is just starting to turn in places. The backside up high had some peak aspens, but mostly "off color" or bare trees for this time of the year. 3rd year in a row these autumn colors have been "off" to me on top.

Wildlife on the drive up/down and hiking was fantastic on this day -
12 Deer
25 Turkeys
10 Abert's Squirrel
1 endangered Mt Graham Red Squirrel (Grant Hill)
And a Bald Eagle at Riggs Lake !!!

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Oct 20 2014
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CP Flat LoopTucson, AZ
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winotronTriplogs 298
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Our 6th and final hike of the day. We were hoping to see all the aspens on this trail at their peak, but unfortunately it seemed like we were about a week late. Still a beautiful trail though. Preston's description was very helpful with keeping us on trail. Near the beginning of the trail there's a campsite on your right. Walk just off-trail here to a little rocky overlook for some absolutely breathtaking views. My favorite spot of the day.

You soon come to at least a solid half mile of aspens. Even without all the color it was still awesome. The little meadow after all the aspens was nice and green. Before you know it you're back to the Swift Trail. Too bad there isn't a better way to loop this trail. Walking the Swift Trail isn't bad though, because you can stop at a couple awesome overlooks on the way back up to the trailhead.

6 different trails on Mt. Graham today and we didn't see a single person on any of them. Amazing! It felt like we had the whole mountain to ourselves. We had an incredible trip again this year, and I can't wait to come back again next year. I wish this place wasn't so remote from Phoenix, or I'd be here all the time.
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All the aspens had already lost most of their leaves, but still a decent amount of color to be had.
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Oct 17 2014
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Pinaleno Fall Tour - Act I, AZ 
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This Triplog and Photoset encompasses the first 2 of 7 Days in the Pinalenos looking for Fall Color and doing some Hiking...

Got to Safford in the Afternoon, ran some Errands and headed up the Hill for a nice Getaway for which I was way overdue...It was starting to get to be later in the Afternoon so the Light was nice and I stopped for a few Photo Ops on the way up...Got Camp set up and took off to find a nice Spot for Sunset since the Monsoon Season was apparently not over and there were Clouds...

As soon as I was out of my Vehicle for about 20 minutes, something hit my Sinuses very hard. It was surprising since I don't ever suffer from Allergies...I would proceed to endure severe sneezing fits and sinus angst for the next 3 days after that at 9000 feet. It's never been a problem before up there, but I've never been up there in late Fall, so who knows...I do know that after a 3rd Sleepless Night, I threw in the Towel and descended about 2000 feet and camped there...And everything immediately cleared up...All I can think of was maybe the Firs at that point were shedding something and once I was out of them, I was fine...I just don't know, but it was a grievous attack like I've not had before... :sweat:

I got Rained on a bit that night in the Clark Peak Campground. I only saw one other person that 1st Day...The next morning I took off right from Camp and did the CP Flat Loop. I was hopeful after seeing the Aspen coming up, that it would still be good, but many of the Trees were already bare. I did find a few Patches and enjoyed the Hike. I hiked a little Spur Road in there too, but it didn't pan out into much. Got back to the Vehicle and was not feeling too great, so decided to do a Vehicle Tour the rest of the Day with the Kleenex Box within Arm's Reach... :sweat: Went into Riggs Lake and saw a few Campers and then headed down the Road further, taking some Photos along the way...I stopped in Soldier Creek Campground for a bit and also got into a nice stand of Aspen that I hiked down to off the Swift Trail...

Returned back to Camp and set up in case of a nice Sunset since once again, there were Clouds...Enjoyed some Color from both the Foliage and the Sky and called it another Night...The Lack of people up there was Amazing and it was incredibly Peaceful...

In spite of the Sinus Troubles, it was a good start to a great Trip...I'll post two more Triplogs and Photosets on my Stay up there. I was gone a total of 10 Days, as I came down from the Pinalenos and went over to the Sierra Anchas to visit with Friends and chase more Fall Color. I came home with a little over 2000 Images, so I'll spread them out for you guys a little... :D
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Aug 18 2014
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CP Flat LoopTucson, AZ
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Day #1 of our hikes on this 2 day trip up Graham.

Addie, Lauren & myself were the cast.

First up was CP Flat - As far as short Pinaleno trails go, this one is a top favorite!
Beautiful short stroll through one nice aspen grove followed by a yellow sunflower filled meadow and ending with a walk along the Swift Trail to complete a loop. Great start to the day.

Next up was the Lakeshore Trail after driving back to Riggs Lake - Another short favorite trail that loops this most picturesque small alpine forest lake, loved it!

And last was an evening hike on the Jesus-Babcock Trail - Great trail out to an amazing overlook of the Sulphur Springs Valley below and beyond. Big monsoon storms could be seen forming in all directions as we left to get back to Riggs Lake for sunset.

Was a great first day of short trail hikes with some fishing and campground relaxation mixed in-between.
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Oct 15 2013
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Clark Peak Trail #301Tucson, AZ
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Clark Peak Trail - Just the out-n-back up to the peak. The trail going up has become very overgrown, it took some bushwacking & time, but we made it up.

CP Flat Loop - Do I like this short little scenic trail? You bet your sweet golden aspens I DO! Always a wonderful trail anytime of the year. We sat at the end of the grove for lunch and had a doe with her fawn walk right across the road 20 yards from us.

Lakeshore Trail - Counterclockwise around Riggs Flat Lake. This lake always has been & always will be my favorite place on the entire mountain, very quite & peaceful today.

Jesus-Babcock Trail - Out-n-back to the big overlook, another trail I will do every year when at Riggs Lake.

Wildlife once again this week was amazing -
8 Abert's squirrels
2 White-tail deer
25 turkeys walking together single file across Hospital Flat meadow :o
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May 24 2012
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Pinaleno Mountains, AZ 
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Day #1 of mine & Pam's 2 day stay on Graham. I thought for the first day it would be fun to just drive up the Swift Trail and hit many of the shorter (1-2 mile) "nature" trails and leave the longer day hike trails for the next day. After meeting up at Roper Lake SP, we headed up the Swifty with the first stop being at upper Arcadia -

Arcadia Nature Trail - Short & sweet stroll along the mountain side and up through the pines & oak to a nice overlook of Noon Creek ridge & Wet Canyon below. Good start to the day!

Ladybug Peak - Always a favorite of mine to bag on the way up or down the mountain. The ladybugs are starting to congregate on top and I will have to return in a few weeks to view the full spectacle of hundreds of thousands!

Big Creek Falls - Big Creek was not flowing at it's best today, but that made it possible to hike right down the middle of the creek's rock slabs down to the big falls. Always a scenic canyon to hike down heavy flow or not!

Hospital Flat Nature Trail - One of the prettiest meadows on the entire mountain! Hiked the standard counter-clockwise loop and just took in the beautiful forest scenery with a lunch break back at the campground before continuing on up the Swift Trail.

CP Flat Loop - Trail of the day! The aspens on this trail were almost full and the walk through "Letty's Grove" was truly the highlight of the day! We both sat at the end of the grove not really wanting to leave, but the sun was starting to fall and we needed to get down to Riggs Lake and secure our camping spot for the night.

Riggs Flat Lake - After looping the campgrounds, we decided on a camping site (#1) and spent dusk getting camp set up and eating dinner. Night brought a campfire, some star trail photography & a couple of hours of good ol' campfire conversation! I settled into my tent around midnight and fell asleep to the sound of high mountain wind blowing through the pine trees above me.

Great day #1 with Pam atop my backyard mountain home!!!
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May 24 2012
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CP Flat LoopTucson, AZ
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Drove to the very end of the Swift Trail for our last Hike of the day. First time I have been this far on the road, and just the drive in was a treat. Got the car parked and started out, immediately hitting huge stands of Aspen lining the Trail. With the late afternoon Sun, it was an absolutely gorgeous sight to see. Pictures will not even begin to do this Trail justice....

We spent alot of time on this one, just marveling at the beauty of the Trail, as the Sun filtered through the glimmering Aspen leaves to the carpet of lush Ferns on the Forest floor....It was almost surreal, like there couldn't possibly be such a magical place in existence today. I felt like I was taking a walk back in time, with just the Wind sighing through the Pine Trees and making the Aspen leaves a part of the Orchestra with a brilliant Light Show included in the mix....Walking in among the Aspen was a very serene experience that I will not soon forget....

A Hike that I will repeat any day, any time. Good call Chad!!! An awesome ending to an awesome day.... : app :
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Apr 28 2011
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Clark Peak Trail #301Tucson, AZ
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With the back half of the Swift Trail now open for summer, I headed up my favorite mountain for an overnight trip to the Riggs Flat Lake area. First drove to the end of the ST and took the Clark Peak trail a couple of miles down to the first big meadow enjoying the great open views of the Gila & Sulpher Springs valleys below. Hiked up to Clark Peak on the return trip and back down to the TH where I then got on the CP Flat Loop trail. First time on this short trail and I was very surprized by the amount of aspens along the road. This trail must look awesome during autumn! I also came across some of the biggest (very fresh) bear tracks I have ever seen up here along side a few lion tracks. After completing the loop, I drove back down to beautiful Riggs Lake and got my campsite set up for the night with just enough time left to walk down to the lake and catch the sunset.
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After the easy hike up to Webb, we drove westward and parked at the end of the road for the hike to Clark Peak, one of my favorites up here. I had wanted to show Liz one of my favorite free camping spots, off to the south just before you get to the end of the road (CP Flat Loop), but it was cordoned off. The Clark Peak Trail is really cool, always being overgrown at the end of monsoon season. It sees little traffic, which makes it even more appealing. Lots of summer wildflowers are encountered on the way to the peak, and the bee action was more than enough to make Liz happy (even if they were so hyperactive that they wouldn't stay on a flower long enough to get a decent photo of them)! After hiking around the south side of the peak, you reach a saddle, and from there just turn right and follow the ridge to the peak (very short distance). You have to fight your way through a thick bunch of locust just before the top. There was once a fire lookout cabin here, which was pushed off the south side of the peak. Much debris remains. The log in the sign in jar is fine, but there was no pen. The last entry was from Mark Nichols, who works at the Cochise Power Plant, and has been hiking southern Arizona for many years. He has his own private list of over 1600 high points he has done. The entry before that was from a hike here last year with Tucson Backpackers that I was on (the same group we encountered the day before down along Ash Creek). After returning to the truck, it was time to say goodbye to this sky island and head home, but not before a swing by Riggs Flat Lake for Liz. While we were heading over to Clark Peak, the clouds thickened up and there were showers visible over toward the Galiuros. On the way down Saturday I told Liz there was no way she could make it rain this weekend. I should have known that proclamation was doomed as soon as I said it, since strange things seem to happen when the weather wizard and rainmaker get together! :o We got off the mountain okay without getting wet, but sure enough, we encountered rain west of Benson, and Liz got her hit and run rainbow picture. Thus ended a nice mellow weekend of camping and hiking! :D
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