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 Gold Canyon, AZ
Hoolie Bacon Trail #111Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking13.93 Miles 2,367 AEG
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I wanted to check out some areas yesterday and after twisting arms for a minute S, Wally, and Andy were game. The road down 213 is always an adventure as it continues to deteriorate every year. Parked at the upper TH and headed up the JF Trail. After a mile, we reached the Hoolie Bacon junction and started down into Tortilla Creek, making a quick stop in Cedar Basin before climbing up to Horse Ridge. We stopped for some pics of the great views on top of the ridge then continued down through Horse Camp Basin before reaching our first destination, Trap Canyon. There is no 'trail' in Trap Canyon, it is a boulder brushy maze trying to make your way through. The Supes encyclopedia showed us an area with a ton of bedrock mortars. From there came the 2 and 3-story house-size boulders. We navigated around the first few but came to a section where the only way past it was an 8-10-foot drop. After scoping it out and not confident we could get back up if we needed to we decided to backtrack to Hoolie Bacon and continued on. Made it to the Hoolie Bacon/Red Tanks junction, made a left then after about a half mile bushwhacked up a small creek while also getting shredded by catclaw to Brad's water and the remains of Brad's Cabin. Tons of water at Brads and I highly disappointed Andy when I forgot my speedo at home so I couldn't swim it. ](*,) Wally advised there are remains of the cabin at a site just north of that, which is now an outer rock wall with an inner rock wall and concrete foundation. There are a ton of old tools and a bed still at the site. From there we found a nice lunch spot in the shade and started the uneventful hike back to the truck, where once we got to the top of Horse Ridge, Wally put the afterburners on and waited for us at the JF/Hoolie Bacon junction. Was pretty chilly at the start of the hike but got hot on the hike out as Hoolie Bacon has no shade at all from the sun. Saw a couple of backpackers at the Red Tanks/Hoolie Bacon junction asking about water and that was it for the day and no wildlife besides a couple of rabbits. Hoolie Bacon has a good amount of catclaw, most of it just off-trail some hangers will get you from time to time. I will have to try Trap from the Red Tanks side in the fall as the canyon is beautiful. Thanks, Wally, Andy, and S for joining, it's always a good time!

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Swimming pool.

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Seeping down into the creek with a small pool.
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A hike in the Supes with Larry(me), Curly, Moe & Shemp. Curly Miller drove the smooth road and we bounced down to the trailhead. We started early and the temps were nice. the Hoolie Bacon trail was easy to follow but got a little messy around Tortilla creek with the cattle trails. There are more ups and downs than we remembered but the climbs kept us honest. Shemp laughed at as when we missed a turn but we always found the trail again. Trap Canyon was cool and shaded but we stopped at the leap of faith. Curly was the voice of reason. Moe Dilling looked for a bypass but it led to another drop off off so we opted for Brad's Water & Brad's Cabin foundation as a plan B. There was plenty of catclaw in Brad's canyon but we endured the gauntlet. It started to warm up a bit in the sun, so we filtered water and took a break in the shade. The hike out was warm but the breeze on the saddles was nice. A good day in the Supes with a vow to return to Trap canyon from the other west end in the fall.
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Hoolie Bacon Trail #111Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking13.79 Miles 2,708 AEG
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I was enticed back to the JF/Tortilla THs with an offer I couldn't refuse...a ride. In a vehicle. Out and back on the notorious FS213. 🤣

The day started early, since we knew there was a potential for it to be fairly long, what with the planned exploration of Trap Canyon. We jostled down the road, with the conversation touching on other interesting explorations in the area - it was definitely much more enjoyable than the last time I was on the road (walking!) We arrived at the trailhead, scaring off several desert cottontails as we headed off down the trail.

After a short walk up the JF Trail, we hit the junction for Hoolie Bacon. The area around Tortilla creek was as I remembered it, though this time it had a decent amount of flowing water (with marinating cow pies). Climbing out of Tortilla Creek, looking back, there were nice views of the snow frosted Four Peaks, and as we hit the saddle, there were nice views of Music and Herman's Mountains.

On our descent towards Trap Canyon, I was glad to discover that I'm not the only experienced desert hiker who can walk right past the designated trail - I only cackled in delight a little bit 😆 and in fairness, the gents were talking amongst themselves and didn't make it far before figuring out they'd missed the curve in the trail.

Once we hit the mouth of Trap, Wally took the lead, blazing a path through the brush. The mouth of the canyon is plenty enticing, with neat geology to lure you in. Not too far down canyon, we were treated to a section riddled with metates/mortars - they were definitely more mortar shaped (circular openings, and some quite deep) than what I typically think of as metate shaped (oblong and shallow). Sadly, no sherds were found, but they could be buried under the copious amounts of sand that moves in with any large flow event.

After exploring the metate shelves, we made our way further down canyon until we hit a constriction between some house sized boulders and a pair of chockstones. The drop from the lower stone looked to be 8-10 feet and a challenge to upclimb (and the downclimb wouldn't have been particularly delightful either). We decided to turn around and return at a later date to see if we could explore Trap from the other side.

In lieu of exploring Trap, we decided to head towards Brad's Water to have a look at what remained in the area. The walk up Brad's Canyon towards Brad's Water is an exercise in finding the path of least resistance - sometimes finding a clear path on one of the benches, sometimes walking in the drainage itself, and sometimes picking your way through catclaw. Not far from Brad's Water are the remains of Brad's Cabin, which was really neat to see. The cabin remains include the concrete foundation and mortared walls along with an array of old tools including a pickaxe, some pliers, and an axe head, amongst other things.

After exploring the site, we headed back the way we came, stopping in a shady spot for lunch. The recent rains left the ground damp in places, and all that moisture certainly contributed to higher humidity levels. We were glad for the occasional breeze that kicked up as we made our way back to the trailhead (I swear there were more uphill sections that I recalled on the way in!).

It was a fantastic day to be out hiking with wonderful company - it was great to meet both Andy and Wally and get a chance to hear about their explorations in the area and elsewhere.
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a singular strawberry hedgehog was spotted in bloom.

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JF Trail #106Phoenix, AZ
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A stroll from Tortilla trailhead to look at the Miller mines and Fish creek. Nice weather, Lost Dutch Spring had a small pool of water. There are spur trails from the beeves but a nice area to look around.
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Tortilla TR to JF TR Plus Fish Creek BM, AZ 
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A friend of mine from the midwest was in town on business and made room for a day of hiking.
He had never hiked in Arizona before and requested that he tag along when I go after a benchmark. Plus, he said he would like to experience hiking in the Superstition Mountains.

Well, I figured this hike would fill his desires.
Fish Creek BM and its two reference marks are near the Tortilla Trail #313, and so is the elusive Fish Creek Azimuth Mark.

We set off on Apache Trail/Rte 88 before dawn, and first located the Fish Creek BM and its two reference marks. The sun wasn't up yet, but we had enough light to locate them.

Next up was - Locate the Fish Creek Azimuth mark. i got lucky and found it "near" where the datasheet said it would be. My friend smiled and said "WOW" - I thought "Whew".

After photo sessions at those two locations, we made our way to the Tortilla TH.
Ironically, I had done the Tortilla hike to JF Tr #106 once before - In my pre HAZ life.
I knew it would be a good hike for him, with great Superstition views, and no surprises.

We stopped for photos often, as he wanted to have a pictorial account of his experience. He took over 200 photos. Yikes - I thought I was a prolific pic taker.
With the nonstop views, my friend had a great time and enjoyed all phases of the day.

On the drive back to the valley, we stopped for a quick view, and photo-op, at Canyon Lake.
He and I are both water skiers. I told him while I was in the Air Force at Williams AFB (now Williams Gateway), I had a boat and skied on Canyon Lake all the time. He thought the lake was kind of small, until I explained that Canyon Lake is navigable 'Upstream' for about 8 miles or more, to just shy of the upstream dam.

He then said the next time he's in town, he'll rent a boat, and we'll go skiing on the smooth waters of the lake. I will definitely take him up on that.
Good times with a good friend.
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JF Trail #106Phoenix, AZ
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A trip out to Tortilla Ranch to look for rocks. I haven't hiked with Lee in a while so we took a hike out the JF trail to look for rocks. There were rocks on the trail, next to the trail and even rocks off trail. Some places there were so many rocks they had to stack them on top of each other. The plan was 8 miles but after a few side trips and wrong turns and being lured in by a drainage with rocks we ended up with 12 miles. The Miller Mine spring is pretty much dry but still interesting. The start was chilly but it warmed up and was a good day to look for rocks. Thanks for the hike Lee.
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JF Trail #106Phoenix, AZ
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I linked up with Wally for a day of exploring around the old ranch and off the JF Trail. We found some old mining claims a few large rock monuments, but nothing overly exciting, mainly just some new lines drawn on the personal map. We opted to walk the road on the way in and ended up with a pretty solid 12 mile day.

We did not pass any other hikers on the trail, but did pass a few along the road on the way out. This area could use some rain. Although, we did run across water in a no name canyon off of the JF Trail and near the area marked the Lost Dutch Spring. We turned around just before Fish Creek, but I think we did enough to link the description. On the way back to the trail we stumbled across a couple of large cairns that were mining claims, or in one case perhaps a memorial to someone.

Despite just a few pedestrian finds, it was a great day out in the Supes, with nearly perfect conditions after the brisk morning, some new intriguing new ground covered and some good Superstition themed chat throughout the day.
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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout A lightly frozen puddle of water near the marked location on the topo.
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A drive down FR213 and hike out the JF Trail looking for a cave. We didn't find the what's rumored to be out there but it was good hike anyway. The temps were cool and the wind strong at times but not too terrible. We stopped by the Dutchman's hideout tunnel an the way out.
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Hoolie Bacon - Peters Trail LoopPhoenix, AZ
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I haven't hiked this trail since the late 90's/early 2000's....at that time I did the full loop from the official trailhead and the sparse trip report from that time mentioned faded trails and catclaw...

This most recent hike was from 88, so included the extra 6 miles of road-walking to the abbreviated Hoolie Bacon - Peters Trail loop. The established trails were easy to follow, though the regions around Tortilla Creek have some braided trails and appear to be used by cattle. Additionally, there is a fair bit of catclaw present, so take heed and dress accordingly.

The first portion of the hike along Peters Trail was quite lovely with beautiful views...the cross country bit involved navigating thickets of catclaw - aside from finding a path through the catclaw, the cross country jaunt was straightforward, especially with the help of a pre-plotted route for guidance.

I'm glad to have discovered that I still have the knack for making it through catclaw relatively unscathed. I sustained a few nicks and a scratch or two, but not bad considering I did the hike without long pants and in a sleeveless top. That low damage rate means I'm moving relatively slowly, picking my way carefully through the snaggy bits. If I had it to do again, I'd probably do the Peters trail as an out and back.
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Hoolie Bacon - Peters Trail LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Well. I am horrifically disappointed that my Jeep Grand Cherokee did not make it up Fr213. Sigh. And really, when does something cease to be called a road?? I'm bitter, I know. The hike itself was fine, but not sure the extra 6 miles RT on the road was worth it. Also not worth it... Wrecking the underside of my car!! Okay. Enough of that. Maybe...🤣🤣🤣

The on trail parts were fine and easy to follow. I wasn't sure if this would be the case given that it is a less accessible Trailhead. Less accessible to Me, anyway!! (bitterness! 🤣🤣). Not less accessible to the off road golfcarts that made it to the actual Trailhead. One of whom had an absolutely palatial canvas tent set up right next to the Peter's trail sign. There were 2 total at the Trailhead when we arrived, and the one near the Hoolie Bacon sign was gone when we arrived back at the end of the loop. We saw no people the entire day which was glorious! 😁

It was an absolutely beautiful day to be outside! The views are superb on the Peter's trail. I loved the majestic views of the ridge off to the northwest. And after finishing the climb, the views to south were also stunning. There is no clear trail to cut over to the Hoolie Bacon, just a sea of catclaw to navigate! 🙀🙀 It wasn't as bad by the Peters trail, but somewhere around halfway through the off trail section, it became catclaw central. That being said, it was still worth it to cut off the additional mileage for us. We were happy to follow the wash back up to Hoolie Bacon. After a snack, we headed up to the saddle, and then it was a steep down. The lichen-covered red ridges are a pretty sight headed back towards the Trailhead.

That last quarter of the loop is rather lackluster. It looks like a giant dirt plain in areas. Very non descript. Anyway, it was nice to be back on trail and making good time. We waited for stragglers at the actual Trailhead, and then set off on our 3 mile road walk back to the cars (grumble, grumble, bitter! 🤣).

I was so excited to try a new trail in the supes! 😁

So the question is... What type of vehicle does make it to the TH?? Clearly lots of people do (or try given the scrapes on the obstacle rocks as evidence).

No water to speak of, unsurprisingly. It certainly would be a sight after a wet spell! 😁
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A few Sycamore here and there.
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Surprised to see a few tiny purple flowers.

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La Barge Mountain 5077Globe, AZ
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Hiking9.62 Miles 2,756 AEG
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I decided to head out to the Supes and do this hike, which I had not done before.

The road to the TH was rocky and bumpy, and was slower going than I figured that it would be. On the drive out, it took 1 hour, 15 minutes to get from the TH back out to Highway 60.

The hike was straightforward: take the JF Trail for about 3.5 miles to Tortilla Pass, and then go offtrail for about 1.25 miles to the La Barge Mountain summit.

Once you get past the windmill the JF Trail is fairly overgrown, particularly the 2 mile stretch from Randolph Canyon to Tortilla Pass. It wasn't all THAT bad though, especially if you were dressed at least somewhat defensively.

The offtrail portion was pretty tame, and was actually less brushy than the trail.

On the way to the peak we stopped off at the arch. It was a little slippery getting up to the arch, but it was worth doing.

The summit was nice so we hung out there for a while. I left a new summit register there, but forgot to bring a container for it; so I wrapped it in 3 ziplog bags, which will last for a while but isn't a long term solution. It would be great if someone could bring a jar or other container for the logbook.

It was a nice day being out in this part of the Supes. It appears that not too many people do this hike.
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Hiking9.70 Miles 2,097 AEG
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A Wednesday hike to check out the JF trail and look for some rock piles. FR 213 hasn't changed much. There are two gates on FR 213 for the cattle but we didn't see any beeves on this hike. The JF trail is difficult to stay on with many new spur trails the cattle have created. Other than that the hiking was easy and the weather perfect. We hiked in and searched a few side washes and hiked out. nice day on the trail.
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I heard about a grazing allotment for Tortilla Ranch so I went out to see the herd. There is a gate across FR213 (which you can drive through) and lots of cattle off JF trail. Maybe the cattle will keep the catclaw down. FR213 hasn't been improved but if ranchers need to can drive it often, who knows? I hiked just off trail across the ridges and near the Miller mines. I got a late start so only hiked a bit. The clouds kept the heat off so it was nice. I saw a large gopher snake but it crawled into the brush so I didn't get a photo. The traffic down and back wasn't too bad but Tortilla Flat was packed.
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Holy Bacon Peter, AZ 
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Needed to get outside again. A warm Feb weekend, with temps in the mid 70s was softened by cloudiness both Sat and Sun.

Bland scenery on Hoolie with the fire scar taking its toll, though the views were distant. Red Tanks through upper La Barge is rough but a highlight of scenery on the loop. Dutchman is a highway in this stunning supes canyon.

FOTG had claimed the best campspot along the creek, so we settled for option 2 not wanting to encroach on a romantical weekend in the woods. ;)

We took an afternoon jaunt up Trap, which was a real treat, and one I'd like to explore the rest of the way. Unfortunately, sunset forced a turnaround and we headed back to camp for the night. A full moon lit up the sky and temps dropped to 41, about 10 lower that we had expected, but somehow we managed to survive the night.

FOTG stopped by for a few minutes in the ayem on his way out before we headed our own way down toward Charley and Peter. Climbing up to the mesa reintroduced fire damage and the mesa was a mess. The catclaw is prolific and the tread is tough to follow in some places. The five red-spray-painted rocks along the way were instrumentally important in finding the way. :-k :doh:

The last two miles along upper Tortilla is a treat with cool geology and plenty of water right now. On the drive out we passed a Jeep Liberty heading up the 213, and I'm pretty sure they were on an intentional one-way trip. Best wishes to those folks and whoever's car they stole. :sweat:
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No need for the spring, as the creek was flowing nicely. But there was nice flow from the pipe and a full springbox. It's an overgrown mess to get up to it though, and not easy to find if you don't know it's there.

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Didn't go up to the source, but there was a visible flow in the drainage at the trail crossing.

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Peters was flowing the entire length

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No sign of water at the well or trough. Plenty in the adjacent creek however.

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Didn't find the actual spring source ... plenty of flow in the canyon.

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SuperThru Campaign-First Water, AZ 
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This hike was done on 2/23-2/26/24. Greg O., James P. and Jason M. made our way to Campaign TH from First Water at 4pm Friday. Arriving at 630pm, we camped above Campaign Creek just a few miles in on J-B Road. Up at dawn on Saturday and on Campaign by 730am. I have been here many times, working with Peter Bigfoot and visiting the high spots in the Eastern Superstitions. I was inspired to do this hike because of Peter's stories of taking groups through the wilderness without food or water on a true survival trek. Of course, we brought our own food.

From Campaign 256 we made our way up Reavis Gap 117 where Greg O. had to depart. We could not have done this hike without his effort to drive us to Campaign from First Water. Jason and I continued on to Reavis Ranch 109 where we were alone and had a restful lunch. We made our way to Elisha Reavis' grave and further on to Roger's trail 11o to the Cliff Dwellings and Angel's Basin for camp. We figured we had done 17 miles the first day. All Trails and On X Off Road had slightly different numbers for our hike.

Sunday we took off for Tortilla Pass via Rogers Trail and caught the JF trail 106. This eventually took us to the Northern end of the wilderness near Tortilla Ranch and Peter's trail 105. We took our requisite 1 hour break, shoved the food .down and walked up to the shoulders of Peter's Mesa. Got off trail a number of times I like cairns! We were pretty shot at this point and more or less fell down Peter's trail to Dutchmans 104 right by Charlebois. Water was not a problem in any of the drainages at this time of year following some heavy rains and snows two weeks prior.
We crossed the creek and stayed on the other side of the water in the bigger, sandier campsites. The weather was perfect all weekend. In the 70's with overcast most of the 2.5 days. On Monday I woke up as the sky was sprinkling on our tents. I packed up, bid Jason goodbye, and begun the hike back to my truck at First Water. I had been asking that we were on trail by 700am Saturday and Sunday so, after making it to Dutchman's Jason knew he could sleep in and hike out when he was ready.

Looking forward to even more challenging routes in the Superstitions next season!
 
Feb 16 2024
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Peak 4143 and LDM Jr, AZ 
Peak 4143 and LDM Jr, AZ
 
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking14.61 Miles 2,668 AEG
Hiking14.61 Miles   8 Hrs   32 Mns   2.06 mph
2,668 ft AEG   1 Hour   26 Mns Break
 
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Not too shabby of a view from this interesting peak. I spent many hours today pruning out the Acacia and some Shrub live oak along the Hoolie Bacon Trail between the JF Trail junction and the Horse Ridge saddle below Peak 4143. The trail on the ascent/descent to the saddle is eroded and rough, but now if there's any a rippin' and the tearin', you probably were looking at the scenery instead of where you were hiking. Our return included a side trip to the Lost Dutchman Mine Junior. Weird geology over there for sure and also interesting. Coffee Flat Mountain (which dominates Herman Mountain) still has some snow on its upper north aspect.
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Jan 09 2024
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La Barge Mountain, AZ 
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Hiking9.21 Miles 2,623 AEG
Hiking9.21 Miles   7 Hrs   6 Mns   1.57 mph
2,623 ft AEG   1 Hour   15 Mns Break
 
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Snow patches, 4" in some areas where the side of the mountains don't see the sun. No running water anywhere. The track I followed was quite old, but spot on. Beautiful hike!
 
Dec 06 2023
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Fraser - Randolph LoopGlobe, AZ
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking9.94 Miles 1,103 AEG
Hiking9.94 Miles   3 Hrs   36 Mns   2.88 mph
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Meh, an easy and mediocre loop considering the crappy approach drive with all the geriatric snowbird side by siders. Completed in reverse (CCW), descending the uninspiring Randolph Canyon first. Cow feces everywhere, loaded up with dry burdocks, mostly pre-burnt with overgrown, unnecessarily cairned side passages. Every hike can't be great, but I guess no trail should go unhiked. : wink : Dese was with me, so it was an appropriate pick for today, but both of us couldn't wait until this loop ended!
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Red Tanks Canyon Pools to trickle Pools to trickle

dry Whetrock Canyon Dry Dry
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Tortilla - Fish MesaPhoenix, AZ
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John10sTriplogs 346
Hiking12.56 Miles 2,287 AEG
Hiking12.56 Miles   8 Hrs   42 Mns   1.98 mph
2,287 ft AEG   2 Hrs   22 Mns Break
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We arrived at Tortilla TH a little after 7AM, and a vehicle with a HAZ decal pulled up right after us. When the driver got out, I recognized hikerdw from pictures on HAZ, so I got out and introduced myself, and we talked for a minute before he and his son headed out for their hike.

We planned to hike the Tortilla-Fish Mesa loop counterclockwise, with some added detours to a few other points of interest nearby. It was in the low/mid-40s when we started up FR 213, which had quite a few puddles and some mud from the recent rain. Our first detour was a stop to get a closer look at a possible dwelling wall I noticed on a hike to Music Mountain two years ago [ photo ] .

It was easy getting over there, and I found three small walls in a short alcove, plus a few shallow grinding holes. It must've been used as a granary or storage area, because the ceilings were very low. It was interesting to see that the natives used a big rock slab to form major sections of at least one of the walls and then added smaller rocks and mortar to fill it out--I haven't seen those construction "shortcuts" at many sites.

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The next stop was another ruins site up on a cliff wall that required a little more effort to reach but wasn't bad aside from some brush and catclaw. Once I located it, I left all my stuff with TBoneKathy and worked my way over there, though I wished I'd brought the clippers to deal with the catclaw. This site was a larger walled-off cave, with one wall in decent shape and another deteriorated down to the point that it looked more like a column of rock. Up above the cave, there were a few more small walls built on a narrow ledge, probably granaries or storage structures.

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There were a few vehicles and tents set up when we reached JF Trailhead, and we continued on to the gravesites of George Miller and then Ernest Martin. I dropped down into the drainage below and briefly looked for the Miller Tunnel Number One Spring but didn't see it, so I headed back up and we backtracked on JF Trail to get back on the route to Fish Mesa. We had to do some light scrambling to get up to the high point at the 3785 benchmark and took a lunch break there. As others have mentioned, the elevation on the benchmark seems too high based on the GPS reading.

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The summit cairn was dismantled and scattered around. I'd read there's no longer a register up there, so I brought a jar and placed a new one and rebuilt the cairn. The top of Four Peaks was in the clouds, and the views overlooking Fish Creek Canyon were fantastic. It was easy hiking along the ridgeline, but we encountered more catclaw and a little rougher terrain dropping down into a drainage and coming up the other side before reconnecting with FR 213.

We had some extra time, so we went back to the first ruins site so TboneKathy could get a closer look since she didn't see it up close in the morning. We finally saw two other hikers on the road as we finished off the hike, and there were eight other vehicles at Tortilla TH when we finished, with more people setting up to watch the sunset along SR 88 on the drive out. It was a good day--we had comfortable weather, nice clouds, and great scenery throughout. It was fun to do some exploring and visit two ruins sites and the grave markers we hadn't seen before, and it was nice meeting @hikerdw in the morning :).
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Nov 15 2023
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Black Cross Fishiness, AZ 
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Hiking16.83 Miles 4,805 AEG
Hiking16.83 Miles   7 Hrs   52 Mns   2.30 mph
4,805 ft AEG      32 Mns Break
 
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Completed the triplet today also, but didn't drive between three peaks, just kept walking. I thought the bushwackiness was minimal, but almost the entire hiking area I strolled through appears to have been burned fairly recently and I didn't follow the official route from the beginning. Settled into a bunch of sheep trails on many of the miles covered. Two hours to Fish Creek Peak, another hour to Black Cross Butte and four hours total to Fish Creek Mountain. From that third summit, I wasn't quite sure dropping into Fish Creek was possible, but the steep and unique ridge descent worked out. I was only cliffed out a few times and had to bypass downclimb a few times. The section of Fish Creek that I did hike has been filled with gravel and sand since I'd hiked it last September. What a beautiful canyon! Awesome Arizona Sycamores, Cottonwoods, giant Saguaros, caves and boulders. I also chose the Lost Dutch exit to Tortilla instead of Fish Creek Canyon since I plan on hiking that another time soon.
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But a few quality pools above where the spring is map labeled.
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